40k 4x

Dominic Collins
Dominic Collins

Warhammer 40,000: Gladius - Relics of War
PC, Linux
developer Slitherine

Now that it's clear that a shitty developer like Slitherine will get to do 3 consequtive 40k games, and simply splatter the 40k skins over a mediocre game, can we agree that, the less 40k games, the better ?

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Joseph Perez
Joseph Perez

Didn't a Civ 5 Mod do this better?

Parker Roberts
Parker Roberts

They both look like trash.

Brandon Watson
Brandon Watson

can we agree that, the less 40k games, the better?
Can we instead agree that someone other than GW should control the rights to the franchise?

Thomas Carter
Thomas Carter

I feel like this sort of game would be more appropriate for Warhammer Fantasy. But on the flipside they might feel it would compete with Total War or some shit.

Aiden Cook
Aiden Cook

13998859
A little specific but well done. Too much focus on MP for my taste.

Christian Brooks
Christian Brooks

MODS

Brayden James
Brayden James

Slitherine made a pretty good Panzer General clone though. The 40k spinoff is also very fun.

Carson Myers
Carson Myers

But GW depends on licensing to get a profit.

Xavier Clark
Xavier Clark

Armageddon felt very bland to me. Extremely bland.

Logan Rodriguez
Logan Rodriguez

0:19-0:20
what is that crescent-shaped ship supposed to be doing?

Evan Cooper
Evan Cooper

It's not your fault you were born a nigger.

Luke Reed
Luke Reed

That trailer was shit. Hopefully the game isn't so bad.

Jeremiah Reyes
Jeremiah Reyes

Coming from the guy defending a reskinned older game from slitherine that is rich.

Eli Cox
Eli Cox

reskinned older games
I guess every FPS in history is a reskin of Doom as well. You're just solidifying my belief that you are a negro.

Easton Torres
Easton Torres

While I do agree OP has no argument, he cannot be as nigger as he successfully rendered a webm.

Julian Bell
Julian Bell

I really would have prefered the good old stacks of units and loading battlefield map sort of combat but whatever. What kind of orbital support gameplay should I be expecting? Cause spess marins arent truly spess marines if you cant drop pod them from orbit straight into enemy formations.

Liam James
Liam James

Nah you can try and generalize all you want, but they literally slapped a 40k skin and some stats on their older tank games. They thought it would be ok since tanks autists never complained on lack of content or polish.
Didn't even bother to put proper sound effects into it.
Animations barely exist and boil down to a ray of something appearing out of the gun of the unit without the unit moving at all. Be it a squad of infantry or light vehicle you even get the very same animation for light weapons.
They made the campaign simple as fuck and decisions mean next to nothing.

And still 40k goys bought it for 37 fucking euro.

They didn't even stop there
They released 7 DLCs , 5 most of which are 5 euro.
You wanted to play more? Play as the orks ? No fuck you, here are 2 maps where you can and here is why:

They released a separate game 40k armageddon da orks for another 20 euro.40k armageddon da orks has you running nearly identical missions compared to the standard armageddon, but is a completely separate product at a separate price.

And you have the audacity to defend these jpeg Jews. Whose entire games boils down to moving jpegs and absolutely repetitive sounds regardless of what vehicle you are using along with identical shooting sounds.

KILL YOURSELF

YOU PIECE OF SHIT

Slitherine is a garabage developer.

John Lee
John Lee

Slitherine
developer
They're publisher not developer.

Mason Thompson
Mason Thompson

wants to play as the Orks
You're a nigger.

Animations barely exist and boil down to a ray of something appearing out of the gun of the unit without the unit moving at all.
I am a savage animal that found his way to the internet from the African savannah recently and didn't have the chance to play Panzer General

Christopher Long
Christopher Long

You don't even have a single argument to defend the game or its price.
You are below a nigger. You are an aboriginal australian mixed with a gypsie.

Chase Edwards
Chase Edwards

40k Armageddon and Panzer Corps were both developed by Flashback Games so no shit they use same engine and play identical. The 3D 40k game was developed by somebody else. Slitherine doesn't provide the game engine. That's up to the developer of the game itself. They're still kikes though.

Also the game in OP is developed by Proxy Studios which made Pandora: First Contact.

Zachary Wilson
Zachary Wilson

The complaint about the separate pricing for what basically amount to an expansion pack is valid. You whining like a bitch there's not enough pretty colors for you to look at proves beyond a doubt you are the blackest nigger there is.

Zachary Adams
Zachary Adams

No that's just your mental gymnastics finding a way to justify 37 euro price tag for a subpar strategy game.
The problems in this game are everywhere.
One so inferior, it makes you pay 20 dollars extra to play the other 1 faction in the game, while keeping subfactions locked behind DLC.
And this is without even touching on the cannonade of bugs and poor design decisions ranging from poor unit interactions to stopping your movement on enemies shown after the fog of war is cleared. Thus making the start of all later campaign missions painful until you get to see most of your enemy.
Not even going into the mediocre story where some plotlines just lead to nothing like the cultist girl just leaving and the commisar saying 2 words before ignoring you, but then you have:
The abysmal turn limit that makes exploring not useless but absolutely detrimental.
A strategy game where during the campaign you win by rushing everything as fast as possible.
NO SKIRMISH

This game has no strong sides. Abysmally bad for 37 euro.

Dominic Cook
Dominic Cook

What I truly want is a 40k city building game
be a (hive) city governor
pollution
gangs
genestealer cults
chaos fuckery
avoid (accusations of) heresy
appease the Cult Mechanicus
deal with noble families
raise your own city guard and PDF
provide regiments for the Imperial Guard
have your city inevitably purged by the Inquisition

William Hill
William Hill

cultist girl
Is she cute?

I wouldn't buy it either way, I'm just curious.

Parker Martinez
Parker Martinez

Sounds like the best way to make that happen is a dorf fort mod.

Parker Ramirez
Parker Ramirez

developer Slitherine
Slitherine is the publisher you faggot, and the developer actually had some good 4x experience

Lucas Gomez
Lucas Gomez

I'm thinking more like Cities: Skylines, except with proper features and not just being a (bad) traffic simulator.

Levi Jenkins
Levi Jenkins

Well minus the billions of population, but I can see the rest working

Jonathan Ross
Jonathan Ross

40k units over regular civ terrain
lol, modding on civ5 is absolute trash

Mason Bailey
Mason Bailey

btw, checked dem triple dubs
this game actually seems pretty good, they failed the execution of their previous game,
but even still it was very well designed and balanced game,
and if that footage is worth taking into account, it seems they are doing simultaneous turns again

Austin Martinez
Austin Martinez

Looks like a nu-female.

Joshua Gomez
Joshua Gomez

Nigger, the game is built on a clone of Panzer General, and Panzer General is all about being fucking fast. Your goal is not to eliminate the enemy, but to capture your objectives. It's not the game's fault you are too retarded to play it properly.

to stopping your movement on enemies shown after the fog of war is cleared
There are scouting units, fucking use them. That's what they are for.

Gavin Reed
Gavin Reed

Imperial cultist
Oh, it's her. I thought you were talking about a Chaos cultist. Though with that haircut, she might as well be.

Parker Thompson
Parker Thompson

Panzer corps, that game that was cloned into this one is at least priced at 20 euro. Not like this overpriced garbage intended for the braindead audience.
Even with scout units that is nuisance, since later in the game they are far from worth it.
Nigger, the game is built on a clone of Panzer General, and Panzer General is all about being fucking fast. Your goal is not to eliminate the enemy, but to capture your objectives. It's not the game's fault you are too retarded to play it properly.
There is no variety to being fucking fast. You will never have many options since skirmish just doesn't exist.
And as such this game is worth below 20 euro. Except it's twice that with dlcs and a separate campaign at 20 euro.

This is an overpriced piece of trash.

Liam Williams
Liam Williams

Panzer corps, that game that was cloned into this one is at least priced at 20 euro. Not like this overpriced garbage intended for the braindead audience.
You're just a cretin that can't into proper army composition and gameplay mechanics.

There is no variety to being fucking fast.
You're a retard. It's as simple as that. You can't play the game properly and whiny like a bitch about it. Let me repeat myself, your goal is not to fight the enemy, you have to capture and hold victory locations. Learn to use suppression and encirclement to quickly dispatch of enemy units.

Grayson Scott
Grayson Scott

I've completed the entire campaign. It's not a matter of playing properly.

This is a subpar strategy, limited in options, poor in gameplay, poor in visuals, poor in sound, poor in story, one that has no fucking skirmish and is overpriced compared to its clone, which is probably better than it.

This is a low quality game at a high price. What is there to talk about?

Jayden Reed
Jayden Reed

who gives a shit about warhammer games. with all the cancerous DLC none of this trash is worth buying even if it's good. just pirate them.

Parker Richardson
Parker Richardson

It's not a matter of playing properly.
Considering you're raging because the game demands you hurry the fuck up instead of bullying every Ork unit in sight I'd say you haven't played it properly and, being a tard, would rather blame the game than your incompetence.

Jason Richardson
Jason Richardson

It's not a matter a of competence. I finished the game from start to end. It's not a hard game.
The game just limits you options in what you can do. What is supposed to be a strategy where you should use your head ends up being a mindless rush with the best units available.
Then when you actually want to experiemnt with the game you realize you can't, because the turn limit stays even if you try loading the maps separately.
It cannot justify a 37 euro price.

Lincoln Gomez
Lincoln Gomez

What is supposed to be a strategy where you should use your head ends up being a mindless rush with the best units available.
But that's not the case. You can and do need to use your head, especially in terms or army composition and placement, as well as baiting enemies into ambushes by exploiting their sight radius. Also, different units are good at different things, so it pays off to have a varied, veteran army.

Also, learn to love and embrace artillery because that's how you fuck everyone's day up.

It cannot justify a 37 euro price.
That's a separate matter entirely and I agree with you about the price gouging.

Jonathan Brooks
Jonathan Brooks

Social Justice Wariorhammer 40K
current year

40K fags are delusional. I just hope they're ready for their games to be nice and diverse just like the Games Workshop always wanted :^)

Ryan Wood
Ryan Wood

40k is as dead and pozzed as Star Wars, yes, but at least we can enjoy the old games and not look at what they turned it into.

Logan Hill
Logan Hill

It's a separate matter from the gameplay, but one of a grillion issues that this game has.
Issues that I keep listing and you keep ignoring.
Panzer corps being barebones doesn't mean that this game has to be barebones too. There is a lot that they can do, but they choose not to.
Then they do DLCs , separate games for ork campaign and a put a high price on it.

muh army composition
Yet some arty just outperforms other arty, some tanks just outperform other tanks and some infantry is just all around more useful than other infantry.
And boy if you get a titan, fuck everything else.
And your army composition just falls flat, since you WANT some units to be there, but don't give a shit about other units at all.

Benjamin Gutierrez
Benjamin Gutierrez

Pozzhammer has always been shit.
Anyone who understands science can see it is unrealistic as fuck and they have SJW shit like strong independent women fighting instead of trying to perpetuate their race.

Zachary Collins
Zachary Collins

Try Sanctus Reach. Its also space marines and space guards vs orks. And its very fun tabletop-like experience, even has random map generator. But i must warn you, the problem with all video games based on warhammer is that they all are painfully mediocre, but nobody is going to make you an alternative. So you're stuck with what you have.

Some people hate game called deathwatch, for the fact it was a mobile port and has difficulty spike near the end, but you can have fun with it if you love tactical strategy games like xcom and want warhammer game in that style that isn't space hulk (because to be quite honest space hulk resembles more of a puzzle game, than strategy). I did got bored after a while because of repetitive enemies and just because the game based on conflict with tyranids is the only thing that's more boring than conflict with orcs, but it was worth a try. So i do see constant concerns about quality of warhammer games, but they are niche and dawn of war was just a fluke.

So yeah, some people who are really really into wargames might just love Armageddon and there's no point in convincing otherwise as long as they pirated it.

defend the game or its price
You know, price is not a fair point of judgement. My favorite thing right now is to listen to warhammer audiobooks i pirated all over internet, and i think they are fucking amazing, but they do however cost in range of $40 for 10 hour audio, and $20 for 1 hour audio drama, it does not mean i'l pour shit on them just because the price.

Carter Garcia
Carter Garcia

40k
pozzed
sjw
Can you please stop talking out of your ass to fish for (you)s?

Justin Morales
Justin Morales

You know, price is not a fair point of judgement
The other guy tells me sounds, animation and gameplay limitng you to rush is not an issue either,

What is a fair point of judgement according to you guys ? Bugs caused by patches that crash the game to desktop ? Because this game has those too.
If I cloned one of those 20$ audiobooks and sold it for 40$, that wouldn't be a problem because price varies among audiobooks? Is that what you are saying ?
You realize how dishonest, scummy and downright disgusting that sounds, right ?

Adam Peterson
Adam Peterson

What is a fair point of judgement according to you guys ?
Having fun no matter if you bought the game or not. And in the end after playing for hours look back at the time spent with the game as positive experience.

James Garcia
James Garcia

fun no matter the issues
the argument shills use on official forums to justify ignoring glaring flaws with games
Get out.

Xavier Martinez
Xavier Martinez

40k 4x
I have been wanting this for so long. After DOW 3 I just need a good 40k Strategy game.

Kevin Howard
Kevin Howard

dow3
good strategy game

Carter Roberts
Carter Roberts

You didn't even read that post

Owen Morales
Owen Morales

there hasn't been a single good 40k game since Dark Crusade which was 9 years ago

David Butler
David Butler

I AM STILL MAD ABOUT ETERNAL CRUSADE

It should not have been hard to make a shooter of any kind set in the 40k universe. For God sakes, you don't need to make new weapons, the universe is teeming with more weapons than you have time to make. All you'd have to do is code them in and ensure their visual and physical ability match the style of shooter you're going for. You don't need to worry about setting, as everyone either hates each other's guts or hate each other's guts but will temporarily work together to kill things they hate more. You don't need lore, you have bordering 40 years of lore to work with, and all you need is some thing to tie the races together (hint: it's either the planet, moon, space station itself or the fact you're fighting the enemy). Just make sure it's balanced, fun, and don't FUCKING LIE about what's going to be featured.

It should have just been planetside but with more gold and skulls, but the devs who hadn't a good game under their belt failed in almost every way. The only redeeming fact was that 98% of all Orks played in character, but that sort of thing only lasts for so long.

And that doesn't even include the retards who defended it every step of the way, even long after its subpar effort was well known. Fucking lemmings.

For God sakes, someone please release a good Warhammer game. At least Deathwing tried/is trying

Hunter Turner
Hunter Turner

deathwing
streumon
honestly, the frenchies should've copied elements from their own insane bullshit games and used less hordeshoot gameplay and more sprawling slaughter gameplay, especially seeing how dangerous genestealers tended to be even in small numbers. The key is small corridors, not swarms.

Kevin Torres
Kevin Torres

Platinum should make a 40k game, starring either an Eldar or a Space Marine or both.

Michael Perry
Michael Perry

4 factions
two human
orks again always in every game
token secondary bad guy
if it wasn't two humans, it would be human and eldar again
Like, I know the factions are fundamentally different, but I'm just getting tired of compulsory space marines + orks, token space-marine-friendly-humanlikes and 'the evil faction'.

Luke Brown
Luke Brown

I agree, all games should be about the Imperial Guard. Any other answer is wrong and you're a raging homosexual if you disagree.

Tyler Fisher
Tyler Fisher

Well you have my vote. Space Marines are boring now. Seeing the ordinary man with nothing but basic equipment, comradery and guts fighting against inhuman monsters in by far more interesting than watching super soldiers do it.

Charles Butler
Charles Butler

massive IG swarms in a third-person imperial guard RTT game as a commissar or some kasrkin faggot controlling anywhere from 5-20 guardsmen at a time as a tiny unit in gigantic, fuckhueg battles would probably be pretty sweet.

Jack Bennett
Jack Bennett

Battlezone 2 but Warhammer and larger scope and scale
One player does the base building, other players are commissars who take control of squads or even entire regiments of troops
Some fucking guardsman tries to run
Pull out your pistol and off him
None of the others even dare turn around after that

Jackson Campbell
Jackson Campbell

guard and necrons
not chaos and eldar
It's like they want their game to fail.

Mason Sullivan
Mason Sullivan

not a game starring a rag tag group of Blood Axe Orks playing something similar to Wonderful 101

Actually Fuck that idea, I'll take an Anarchy Reigns beat 'em up with everything from a Catachan Jungle commando to Flayed One all stuck fighting on a hive world with the target being some dumb artifact. It doesn't matter what's there, as long as the combat is good.

Zachary Carter
Zachary Carter

Slitherine
confirmed shit

Dominic Cooper
Dominic Cooper

Id pay for a game featuring a harlequin eldar fucking shit up all over the webway.
Specially if it is a female one with tight pants.
The imperial assassins would be fine too.
implying the guard isnt the best and necrons arent rad,spooky space skelletons

Landon Gonzalez
Landon Gonzalez

PC, Linux
Oh great, my PC runs Linux. Does that mean it runs twice?

Elijah Bailey
Elijah Bailey

yeah its like running it on square potency

Cameron Barnes
Cameron Barnes

You can make glorious sniper game in wh40k universe, if anyone even cared to make one.

Asher Nelson
Asher Nelson

Space Marines
Astra Militarum
Why not combine them and make SM the lategame elite units? Also, rate my 40k RTS/T pitch
Wargame:ALB style gameplay
Imperium/Orks/Eldar/Chaos/Tyranids(maybe)/Tau/Necrons(maybe)
each faction has some gimmick (IG infantry passively fortifies held territory, killed Ork units eventually spawn lesser types,ect)
gameplay would naturally reward aggressive action, some factions care little about casualties
extensive unit variety/customization, allow for player preference in equipment
large maps with varied terrain and some level of destructibility

Aiden Jackson
Aiden Jackson

Why not combine them and make SM the lategame elite units?

Different command structure, different tactical doctrines, Space Marine fanboys crying wolf when their units aren't 100 times as strong as a guardsman, IG fanboys crying wolf when Space Marine have plot armor as seen in the novels, the ability to sell either IG or Space Marines seperately, SoB and AdMech fans whining why they were not included in the official Imperium faction.

Landon Barnes
Landon Barnes

the downside to the space marines being the face of 40k is that the fanboys simply won't accept them not being front and center. frankly i want to play a game where you play as the imperium and can call in the marines, maybe even various chapters, to deal with certain events that require their expertise, be it a space hulk, boarding actions, or whatever

Colton Moore
Colton Moore

Basically this. If the IG is a hammer, the SMs are a scalpel. Extremely good at performing operations of limited scale, but unless you get multiple chapters to do your job for you (and even then, you don't order them, you nicely ask them for their aid), there simply are not enough of them to conquer or hold entire planets. Even CSMs chiefly serve as shock forces while the brunt of the work is done by cultists.

Nicholas Rogers
Nicholas Rogers

Different command structure, different tactical doctrines
If the IG is a hammer, the SMs are a scalpel
Which is exactly why I think it makes much more sense to combine the factions. The IG could handle the majority of the fighting, with SM being a high-cost choice for cracking tough nuts.

Jordan Thomas
Jordan Thomas

Don't the IG and SM work together regularly? Granted, the SM take all the glory.
Aye. Come to think of it the Imperium works kind of the late Roman empire. You had border armies, the limitanei, which weren't all that well equipped or trained and were often province locals trained to defend the borders. And then you had the field armies, the comitatenses, which were pretty much legionnaires and would march up and down the empire to wherever they were needed.
Of course, the IG also go on offensive campaigns. But when shit hits the fan then it's usually the Astartes that come to the rescue and either perform surgical strikes or use their tremendous strength to help hold the line.
Pretty sure Final Liberation had IG and SM in one faction and it worked more or less as you described. It's been ages since I played it though.

John Ramirez
John Ramirez

They still are two organizations fully independent from one another. Again, an IG commander may humbly ask if the SMs would be willing to take this or that position, but it's well possible that the SM commander will tell him to eat a dick, take his guys and move elsewhere after initially accepting the proposal, or otherwise fuck with him.

Aye. Come to think of it the Imperium works kind of the late Roman empire

I'd argue that SMs in this context are more akin to a chivalric order which may show up if the pope announces a new crusade to the Holy Land. Or not.

Jayden Wilson
Jayden Wilson

Well yeah, the comparison isn't perfect. SM have too much autonomy. It's kind of a detriment but when you have warriors that can wreck undescribable amounts of enemy arse you just go with the flow.

Andrew Ross
Andrew Ross

I'm well aware of the in-universe justifications, but when you've got a total of 4 factions in a game, it seems a massive waste to make one just be a different branch of the same major group. While any chapter could tell the IG to sod off, I think it's more in-line with what they're supposed to be than to operate entirely on their own.

Nathaniel Jones
Nathaniel Jones

I'm glad the Necrons are getting in but 2 human factions seems like a waste. I'd have rather seen them add the Tau.

Wyatt Rodriguez
Wyatt Rodriguez

Yeah I'm with you on that. I'm convinced that GW forces Marines onto developers as part of the licensing deals. I'd much rather see them get swapped out for something like Tau, Eldar or Chaos

Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson

What are even the imperial targets for assassination anyway? Corrupt governors or something? Have the assassins ever had to kill space marines or chaos marines and stuff like that? Or even eldar? Because love could bloom on the battlefield.

Ian Foster
Ian Foster

no IG
Why even bother?

Nicholas Howard
Nicholas Howard

Are you blind? Or did you just miss out on the fact that GW got asshurt that they couldn't copywrite "Imperial Guard", so they changed to "Astra Militarum"?

Brody Smith
Brody Smith

The experience with development of warhammer games goes like this, i am telling you:

Armageddon developers:
Its our first warhammer 40k game! What factions we will add?
Well it has to be Imperium and orks
But what about chaos and eldar?
Its our first game! Buyers don't know who they are! Orks are basic faction for a starting sci-fi fantasy game!

Sanctus Reach developers:
Its our first warhammer 40k game! What factions we will add?
Well it has to be Imperium and orks
But what about chaos and eldar?
Its our first game! Buyers don't know who they are! Orks are basic faction for a starting sci-fi fantasy game!

Deathwatch developers:
Its our first warhammer 40k game! What factions we will add?
Well it has to be Space Marines and Tyranids
But what about chaos and eldar?
Its our first game! Buyers don't know who they are! Tyranids are basic faction for a starting game, like the movie Alien or Starship troopers!

Space Hulk developers:
Lets add more useless shit in our next expansion! More missions! More unit recolors!
But what about new enemies?
Just make more genestalkers, they will eat that up!

Gladius developers:
HOLY SHIT WE ADDED NECRONS, THAT'S ALREADY TOO MUCH

And in the end nobody makes chaos, or eldars, or tau. Its a morale that for their "first game" they need no sane factions with extensive intelligent and to make story of brave space marines fighting stupid shit. Eventually bunch of those "first games" made about basic shit and nothing extensive. Chaos Gate had right idea of choosing chaos as first basic enemy, since the series never continued, just like fucking all of them. Also want to praise Battlefleet Gothic Armada devs for being more hardworking than the rest of those idiots, although i found their space only game a bit boring.

Jaxon Watson
Jaxon Watson

Hey guys, does anybody like the Tau?

Hunter Adams
Hunter Adams

no

Blake Stewart
Blake Stewart

Spess Marines
human

Nathaniel Edwards
Nathaniel Edwards

I'd like Tau. As enemies to purge.

Carson Sullivan
Carson Sullivan

implying an armored core like crisis suit game wouldn't be the best shit ever

Jack Nguyen
Jack Nguyen

Only the red ones.

Gavin Baker
Gavin Baker

so much potential in this IP and it's wasted on stupid shit like half-assed RTS games and clumsy shooters

John Torres
John Torres

notices Space Marine and DoW, which feature chaos, are not present on your list

There is a problem with adding too many factions, and that is lack of focus. And writing a sensible story that will justify having all of them in one place.
40K is a massive universe. Trying to cram everything into one game/movie is doom to failure

Brayden Ramirez
Brayden Ramirez

Well, one can agree if you see the game having enough games that DON'T feature chaos, at least one developer could thought about featuring it.
Not the first time i see something like this.

Matthew Hughes
Matthew Hughes

Purge all Tau. Especailly the edgy red ones.

Logan Sanchez
Logan Sanchez

Do they go faster?

Colton Flores
Colton Flores

Ork snipers.

Tyler Sanders
Tyler Sanders

warhammer 40k games arent worth playing. they dont even have computers they just use dismembered autists. you cant play video games on a dismembered autist

Liam Gomez
Liam Gomez

I find it hard to believe orks even aim.

Owen Martin
Owen Martin

Not with that attitude you can't.

Lucas Evans
Lucas Evans

sure, but your attitude is gonna get you shot by the pirate hat fellow.

Sebastian Watson
Sebastian Watson

Ask the Celestial Lions. They'll tell you a thing or two

Luis Gonzalez
Luis Gonzalez

Extra Credits (I know they're faggots) explained Games Workshop's strategy as "people will simply forget shitty WH40K games or even get inspired to look for good ones after playing it"

Caleb Jackson
Caleb Jackson

Oh wait, i know now why you like Tau so much.
Because they are sugoi anime :D

Isaiah Collins
Isaiah Collins

How much money costs a usual warhammer 40k set? Does it even compare to what they are gaining on video game market?
And yes, lowering quality to produce less expectations is usual strategy of modern gaming.

Robert Brown
Robert Brown

An imperial assasin killed conrad curze.
They pull out all kinds of crazy shit and fail miserably half the time too, hell, they once overthrew the imperial goverment and killed all the lords of terra save for the general captain of the custodes.

Xavier Torres
Xavier Torres

Curze allowed himself to be killed.

Jason Gray
Jason Gray

The imperial guard is more like the byzantine theme system, with the space marines being the tagmata optimatoi of fully equiped, heavily armoured, elite dudes that go help out when shit gets real.
Yes, it is a complete waste of a good faction slot, look at what armageddon game did, you have both SM and IG units in your roster.
Go tell that to the officio asesinorum.
game set in the second war of armageddon
wants chaos and eldar
Dude, thats the 40k epitome of the IG vs Orks warfare, those are the 2 factions that absolutely need to be there.
he doesnt play holopict simulations of warfare in his dataslate/cogitator
Fucking casual.
GW is actually doing allright in its market value, wich is both good and bad.

Camden Cook
Camden Cook

Go tell that to the officio asesinorum.
I would if I could find their office, and didn't like having a head.

Luis Evans
Luis Evans

I'm only interested in it if there's Tau. There's criminally low Tau centered games. Bots are cool.

Angel Wilson
Angel Wilson

I think you would enjoy gundam more than 40k, mate.
Tau are the gimmicky faction GW made to enter the japanese market and to pander to weebs.

William Martinez
William Martinez

Could you actually give proofs for your accusations of pozzing?

Gavin Peterson
Gavin Peterson

Bots are crap

Angel Stewart
Angel Stewart

Are they? I'm only really familiar with 40k from the Dawn of War games.

I like their aesthetic more than Space Marines who look like cheap cosplayers.

Kayden Martinez
Kayden Martinez

But you already have
elite space soldiers
space soldiers with autism
green skinned space soldiers
why would you want anything else?

James Cook
James Cook

Are they?
Yes, thats the entire reason for their existance, they came out of fucking nowhere but people dont hate them because atleast they are somewhat interesting a too small to actually be a threath to the major factions.
I like their aesthetic more than Space Marines who look like cheap cosplayers.
Gundam is for you m8, not 40k.
Who would be the autistic space soldiers?

Xavier Walker
Xavier Walker

I still say they were shooting without aiming and simply guided the bullets towards whatever they wanted to hit using WAAAAAGH powah.

Ethan Torres
Ethan Torres

If it works, it works.

Jaxon Jones
Jaxon Jones

Orkz don't have to aim because their guns spew forth so many high-calliber and/or explosive bullets that some are bound to hit anyway.

And that's before we talk about Snazzguns.

Jacob Stewart
Jacob Stewart

Gas the ethereals, battlesuit melee now.

Juan Martinez
Juan Martinez

But we were talking about ork snipers, so unless its an automatic sniper that logic doesn't work here.
Altho, orks might be crazy enough to build full automatic sniper rifles.

Nathan Stewart
Nathan Stewart

O'sha-sama!

Luke Harris
Luke Harris

unleashes_latana
not nothin_personnel_nid
ANALYSIS: PUN QUOTA HAS BEEN UNFULFILLED
CONCLUSION: SUMMARY EXECUTION.

Samuel Richardson
Samuel Richardson

This is really underrated post.

shitty developer like Slitherine
Okay, lets do a quick information guide, since i missed OP's idiocity:

Warhammer 40,000: Armageddon
Developer Flashback Games
Also made Panzer Corps
Currently making Panzer Corps 2

Warhammer 40,000: Sanctus Reach
Developer Straylight Entertainment
This is their first game (aside of old unknown educational stuff)
They currently developing another expansion for it

Warhammer 40,000: Gladius
Developer Proxy Studios
Also made Pandora First Contact, highly praised clone of Alpha Centauri, which was better than Beyond Earth
Currently in development of Gladius

Tyler Perez
Tyler Perez

Oh boy a warhammer 40k 4x!
Oh it's turn based?
Oh it's tile based?
Oh…

Nevermind.

Liam Powell
Liam Powell

implying you can't play video games on this

Ian Richardson
Ian Richardson

14000000

Cameron Ortiz
Cameron Ortiz

What is this heresy?

Jaxson Fisher
Jaxson Fisher

A sword
not a power sword
not a chain sword
not even a daemon sword
just a sword

What the actual fuck is this shit.

Henry Foster
Henry Foster

I like how you ignore the real issue with the bad games under their belt as a publisher for the my misunderstanding of them being a dev.

Shit game is bad. You are the heresy here.

Jordan Cook
Jordan Cook

What were you expecting?

Jace Allen
Jace Allen

what was the get?

Austin Garcia
Austin Garcia

Lore wise? I don't hate them. Gameplay wise I had a lot of fun with them in DoW.

Justin Cook
Justin Cook

Fresh faced and naive tau can be fun, like that time they thought they killed slaanesh.

David Bailey
David Bailey

Bad games? Maybe you just have total shit taste. Grew too much on AAA trash and expect everything to be Dawn of War? This is why this industry sucks and never grows up.

Connor Hall
Connor Hall

all dis dissing of imperial guard
We are not super strong, we are not be best soldiers, we are not the best period. But we are human, we are not mutants like the astartes and we will prove to the emperor we need no protection, someday we will stand on our own legs and slash all who dare to stand up to us. WE ARE HUMAN AND THE GALAXY IS OURS

Sebastian Wright
Sebastian Wright

The galaxy is HIS, heretic. OURS is but to die standing in HIS name. THAT'S what we do best.

Benjamin Jones
Benjamin Jones

implying the emperor didn't intend for the galaxy to be human
We die for humanity in his name for he is the embodiment of we could once achieve, if that is heresy then shoot me now.

Lucas Ramirez
Lucas Ramirez

loyalists sucking each other off as their empire crumbles around them
Shiggy diggy doo corpse worshipers

Michael Hill
Michael Hill

Says a pussy who needs warp power to stand up to real men.

Caleb Bennett
Caleb Bennett

pride
Gladly.

Elijah Young
Elijah Young

Also have you ever noticed hoe khorne whorshippers are like radical muslims?
religion of peace
but what about the part that says kill all infidels?
ALOHASNACKBAR

We are religion of honor
what about the part khorne doesnt care where the blood flows from as long as it flows in his name?
BLOOD FOR THE BLOODGOD

Jose Long
Jose Long

You are not a sanctioned arbited on my world and as far as I know pride for humanity is not a sign of "you know what" lord inquisator.

Andrew Garcia
Andrew Garcia

Anyone who doesn't practice unaligned chaos is in for a bad time. Everyone knows you have to workshop the various warp entities into a belief all your own.

Noah Gomez
Noah Gomez

Your world? Your words betray you, apostate.

Jason Cooper
Jason Cooper

What about worshipping malal? :^)

Leo King
Leo King

Only if the proper rites are enacted and ointments applied.

Colton Hill
Colton Hill

Why hasn't mars been burn down yet to make way for true science, Novassaria will lead the way.

Charles Cruz
Charles Cruz

for their battlesuits and waifus

Parker Walker
Parker Walker

Non humans are to be ground to dust to make way for humanity.

Elijah Lee
Elijah Lee

this one weird warp trick to peak human performance
Loyalists HATE him

Julian Baker
Julian Baker

oh yeah? tell that to your son papa smurf, big e.

Joshua Jackson
Joshua Jackson

The total war warhammer games are pretty damn good with all the patches and DLC of course

Colton James
Colton James

HERESY

Jose Hughes
Jose Hughes

Cast out the mutant, the traitor, the heretic. For every enemy without there are a hundred within.

And then they say only Star Wars or Star Trek fags know pain.

Robert Rogers
Robert Rogers

He IS NOT AN EMPEROR, if eldar want to accepted they need to die and be reborn as humans, maybe then they'll understand the plight of mortal men.

They are a decadent race that went beyond just being decadent, they need to die and face our emperor's judgement, if they are lucky, maybe they could join the superior species.

Kayden Lopez
Kayden Lopez

Ck2 mod maybe.

Tyler Scott
Tyler Scott

don't care :3

Nolan Ortiz
Nolan Ortiz

Don't try to out heresy me heretic.

Cooper Gonzalez
Cooper Gonzalez

Subjugate xeno by dick. It's most humane way.

Nathaniel Johnson
Nathaniel Johnson

*declares war on entire galaxy, consuming everything in the grimdark of warfare - ultimately weakening everyone over time*
Tyranids enter and find galaxy in turmoil
everything gets eaten
LMAO. Humanity Number 1 eh? Cannae cooperate with Tau, now can we?

Isaac Reyes
Isaac Reyes

You will probably be interested in this horus heresy faction:
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Interex
Except for the fact they are probably just parody off star trek's federation and heavily ridiculed for that.

John Miller
John Miller

Had a little spare time to make this.

Luis Powell
Luis Powell

Humanity survived worse, as long as a single one draws breath we are legion. your nomnoms will reach terra over my dead shrivelled ape balls.
But really it would be interesting if they did, I would like to see… read about Sol's defences in action. The combined arsenal of Terra and Mars unleashed without restrictions… it gives me a cyberboner…… need to find a toaster.

Jackson Thompson
Jackson Thompson

Mark of Chaos was great no idea why people hated it so much whenever I used to bring it up.

Jacob Moore
Jacob Moore

Don't play Vermintide if you've played Left 4 Dead. It's basically a slightly less fun version of that with meaningless level ups.

I think ultimately it had some design flaws and didn't fulfill the RTS nature that people were quite hoping for. I mean it came out while Dawn of War was a thing, so it had that comparison. But in addition, it had only four factions, humans, high elves, chaos and skaven. And each faction only had a handful of troops.
Then in the campaign if your leader wasn't a duelist you couldn't win those duel missions because you weren't allowed to select other heroes, which was a crappy element.
Otherwise it was a pretty great game and I'd like to see more of it. Really you could almost call it the foundation for TotalWaWaHammer, or at least a proof of concept.

Matthew Murphy
Matthew Murphy

Ill give you that the duelist part was shit and that it had flaws but otherwise I liked having to take care of my units to save dosh, also it a very storybased rts, so I honestly cant blame them for only having story important factions.
Altho 2017, still no chaos dorfs that arent mods, dorfs, check, magic, check, greenskins, check, its the perfect faction.

Liam Gonzalez
Liam Gonzalez

You want cool plot progession? Too bad! Here primaris marine! Fuck you!

Ian Nguyen
Ian Nguyen

I think it really would have benefited from something like a total war map (or like Dark Crusade or Soulstorm) where you had to build up and conquer over time.

Andrew Gray
Andrew Gray

Warhammer Online was dope as fuck tho

Cooper Gomez
Cooper Gomez

No, it was garbage with a neutered tug of war mechanic, less than a third of promised content on launch and almost no pve content to speak of. It was also on no-content life support for most of it's run. And contrary to your hopes and dreams you're not a nigger, you, cuckchan reject piece of shit.

Liam Diaz
Liam Diaz

What?
Worshippers of literally say "Blood for the Blood God" and "Maim Kill Burn".
They aren't exactly practising Taqiyya.

All the positive aspects of the Dark Gods got forgotten about and now they are just "evil".
Stop trying to derail the thread, if you want to talk about Mudslimes then go to /pol/ .

Blake Russell
Blake Russell

It will never not cause me physical pain to see that god-awful hairstyle.
Ynnari were a mistake.

Caleb Edwards
Caleb Edwards

Fuck, recommended in previous thread Titanium Wars mod for Soul Storm is actually fun. Now i need to get myself into liking RTS again.

David Bailey
David Bailey

finally catch up on 40k after hearing they advanced the plot
super space marines created
they've existed in legion sized forces for several millennia
also they have no problems or instability like normal space marines because that's how super they are
They also get super secret advanced power armor and weapons

Carter Sullivan
Carter Sullivan

No women super space marines yet!?!?!1!!/! THE BIGGOTS!!!11!!

Blake Bennett
Blake Bennett

defends trash copied games
realizes they are reskins
justifies them somehow
uses unrealted to discussion state of AAA games to justify shit game
likes shit
calls the taste of others shit
Mental gymnastics much ?

Just look up a few of the previous games these guys made and tell me this game isn't a reskin at double the price.

Jayden Carter
Jayden Carter

There's another tactical wh40k game currently in development.

Parker Green
Parker Green

Hex based
4 Factions
Turn based
Wow it's shit

Gabriel Long
Gabriel Long

Eversor. Think about it.

Nicholas Sanchez
Nicholas Sanchez

Mark of Chaos
you could almost call it the foundation for TotalWaWaHammer
Mark of Chaos almost fallen out of history, if anyone said bad about it now is just because the reviews were bad, and general opinion in its time was mediocre. If you actually played it you would know its bearable rts, fun in some aspects too, with worthy effort put into campaigns.
Now onto your words that it called the foundation of total warhammer, i disagree heavily. I am pretty sure total warhammer exists because of countless mods being noticed by games workshop, like call of warhammer or warsword, and others, that modified total war or similar games. Contract with Sega for Games Workshop was only a matter of time. And Mark of Chaos itself is loosely based on shadow of the hornet rat and dark omen, both of which games had troop based mechanics.
Did you know that mod is probably killed by GM lawyers in favor of this Gladius game to come out later?

Brayden Richardson
Brayden Richardson

Anyone remember chapter master ? Shame that stopped being developed, buggy as all fuck but had potential to not be shit

Michael Gonzalez
Michael Gonzalez

And thus, the hobby was dragged down one step further.

Jayden Brown
Jayden Brown

Breddy gud

Austin Butler
Austin Butler

Atleast they are trying something new.
Those are all unofficial miniatures, they are not GW, stop being so retarded user.

Samuel Murphy
Samuel Murphy

Those are all unofficial miniatures, they are not GW, stop being so retarded user.
I know that you dumbass, still doesn't make it in any way shape or form excusable.

Cameron Brown
Cameron Brown

So besides the good and popular games (Dawn of War, Space Marine, Battlefleet Gothic), what other 40K games are that would be interesting, or should i know? in these last years, so many games have been released, that I dont know even what games are.

Mason Cruz
Mason Cruz

Well, there's a fucking full list of games already in this thread: Lots of mediocre stuff around, nothing is perfect unless you like the setting. Try out Sanctus Reach i guess, its turn based warfare similar to tabletop game. If anything, Deathwatch, Regicide and Space Hulk Ascension can offer entertaining squad based tactical gameplay.

Dylan Lewis
Dylan Lewis

Space Hulk (modern one)
Space Hulk: Ascension
Deathwatch

Whats the diferrence between these games? And what would you consider the best one, or in what order?

Jason Allen
Jason Allen

It's inexcusable
Sex appeal will always be a plus even with filthy xenos, specially if played for laughs. Someone post the Eldar rape one.

Thomas Howard
Thomas Howard

rape

That's just eldar propaganda. The upstanding guardsmen were clearly helping the filthy xeno with her blasted off chest plate and assisting her to reattach it.

Robert Anderson
Robert Anderson

battlesuit melee now.

the lost their upperhand aganist the orks, their energy weapons were perfect to prevent that the orks released spores when dying

Justin Hall
Justin Hall

Deathwatch
L4D clone that had major performance issues at launch, but supposedly Streum has been continuously patching it and are launching a major update for it soon. It's okay, go in expecting a horde shooter where you stomp around and kill tons of shit, but don't expect anything more. Psychic powers can be pretty fun.
I will say the game looks great and the environments really capture 40k

Space Hulk (modern one)
Space Hulk: Ascension
Never played but from what I've heard these are "meh", not awful but not good.
Templar Battleforce is actually a pretty good space hulk knock off, complete with not genestealers and the like.

Lucas Carter
Lucas Carter

You are mistaking DeathWING for DeathWATCH, the game I talked.

Elijah Price
Elijah Price

fugg
can't help you there mate, but with 40k games it's best to assume they're bad to okay given how GW throws the license to anything that moves. Good games are a rarity

Luke King
Luke King

Shame what happened to DoW III. Nowadays, big game devs are relying too much on data analytics rather than common sense to guide their workflow.

Look at these screenshots. How many years old and Dark Crusade still makes for pretty pictures. I'm still waiting for a worthy game to succeed it.

Oliver Barnes
Oliver Barnes

FINAL LIBERATION!
The closest we will get to a great 40k movie.
Of course, the guardsmand taking his belt of only did that so that she could push her chestplate together with it.
The dawnblade has space powers though.
To me it still looks great, it is a strategy game after all, youre not supposed to get that close.

Daniel Bennett
Daniel Bennett

Look at these screenshots. How many years old and Dark Crusade still makes for pretty pictures.

Wut? those ugly super-low rez textures and low-poly models are ugly by today's standard.

Owen Rodriguez
Owen Rodriguez

3 Lemon Russ tanks and a Hellhound holding off the Chaos forces.
Seeing the Demon Prince coming.
True heroes of the Imperium, they kept the guns firing in the face of death,

Kevin King
Kevin King

I'm obviously talking thematically, moron. You won't find such things in DoW III because that game has no soul.

Jose Myers
Jose Myers

FINAL LIBERATION!
a thousand times this, Final Liberation is fucking great

Jonathan Brown
Jonathan Brown

Any recommended fleet composition for Battlefleet gothic armada, at least for imperial navy? Even if not for multiplayer, want to know any recomendations.

Juan Long
Juan Long

I'd have some complaints about the list but it's not terrible.
I liked Mark of Chaos too.
I think ultimately it had some design flaws and didn't fulfill the RTS nature that people were quite hoping for.
That's because Mark of Chaos is a RTT game with very very mild TBS elements, not an RTS. As you said many fags went in wanting an RTS like Dawn of War as you say comparisons with it hurt MoC and got disappointed as a result because people are fucking stupid.

Gavin Mitchell
Gavin Mitchell

Seeing the net, is hard to find it. There arent even avaliable Tau & Space Marine fllet recomendation in the wiki. Did the game die really fast or what? Even if the multiplayer is "dead", shouldnt the wiki be complete, and the forums/Steam threads be more numerous…

James Rodriguez
James Rodriguez

Honestly, te game just died crazy quickly. I don’t even understand why. There was nothing particularly wrong with it other than the dumb multiplayer grind. The gameplay itself was satisfying and novel enough too.

Adam Ward
Adam Ward

Implying that was actually orks
They were fucking bolter shells. The inquisition got pissy

Luke Taylor
Luke Taylor

Everyone except GW shills dislike the new plot progression

Christopher Wright
Christopher Wright

multiplayer grind and forum balancing
Really wish they would have released campaigns for the other races or at least a gothic sector conquest mode

Isaiah Williams
Isaiah Williams

Templar Battleforce
user, you're a faggot. That game has black female space marines, pic related, the whole shit it spins around is more progressive clone of warhammer.

Space Hulk
If 2013, not deathwing, then it is pretty solid space hulk clone, plays more like a puzzle game but with rng and strict board game rules.
Space Hulk: Ascension
Same, but with leveling up, more genestalker types, a lot of various space marines. Try finding fitgirl repack of that, latest version. Probably the best of the three, but less tied to board rules like its predecessors.
Deathwatch
Actually, very similar game to space hulk, but in open spaces and against tyranids. Its interestingly good mobile port, i mean they didn't fucked up interface or graphics, it runs well too, first couple of missions are nice, they removed micro-transactions, but kept card system intact. The problem in this game comes from difficulty of later missions ramping up expecting you to have best equipment gained from card deck, with which you build your equipment and gain high tier marines. You are expected to repeat certain missions to gain doth to buy more card packs on ingame currency, and this imbalance is why this game is actually worst out of three suggested. It will take a while to complete solely because of sudden difficulty spike that existed in mobile versions solely to force people to buy microtransaction currency. But always remember you can cheat packs in this game with cheat engine. But if you like deathwatch itself, then you will probably enjoy this game for marine aesthetics and some tactical brainfuck.

Adam Stewart
Adam Stewart

They actually won. They held the line.

Justin Garcia
Justin Garcia

They will be forever remembered as the emperor's finest. Jesus.

Liam Rogers
Liam Rogers

modern chaos forces

Julian Mitchell
Julian Mitchell

True soldiers of the Imperium.

Jaxson Nelson
Jaxson Nelson

their armor design is pretty cool though. it's a shame how hokey their lore is.

Jace Cruz
Jace Cruz

space marines inside space marines inside space marines inside

Caleb Phillips
Caleb Phillips

Centurions

Jesus, talk about unnecessary. Space marines already have dreadnoughts and terminators for heavy assault roles. Centurions add nothing new to their arsenal except needlessly more complicated logistics.

Daniel Moore
Daniel Moore

needlessly more complicated logistics.
the imperium of man
anything but

Jackson Robinson
Jackson Robinson

I was talking about the regular primaris armor. redemptor looks okay

nothing beats 30k aesthetics

Blake Wood
Blake Wood

The new Primaris organization is also horrible. There are new, specialized gay roles like Reivers and even gayer hover tanks that are clearly too far of a jump away from regular Imperial aesthetics and design. I get that GW wants to sell more models but fucking hell man

Jack Gonzalez
Jack Gonzalez

still abit bland for my tastes

oh god the stupid fucking hover tanks

Nicholas Taylor
Nicholas Taylor

Really wish they would have released campaigns for the other races or at least a gothic sector conquest mode
This semmed so obvious. Even now would be good to release some DLC of the game, and perhaps revive the game. Cant understand why many developers dont try to continue to make DLC of the game to keep the game alive and get more money. With BFG:A, it looked obvious that a small campaign of Damocles Crusade would be with the Tau expansion; And the game would be more complete with the Tyranids & Necrons (Even if overpowered) factions. But looks like they are too lazy to do a dlc beyond the year after release, regardless of the money they would get (And its not like the game sold little).

Dylan Baker
Dylan Baker

A Warhammer 40K 4X would be interesing. Lets hope it becomes at least an ok game. Besides, is tiring to see too much Tactical-based games, because I dont hate them & It goes well for 40K, but is like lately most of the developers with the 40K IP is doing now.
Also, talking about 40K vidya, what are your hopes about Space Marine 2? I hope that it stars another races & factions as enemies instead of the same Orks/Chaos shit.

William Hughes
William Hughes

Centurions arent new though.
I wish for tau or eldar removal.

Ethan Reed
Ethan Reed

Cant understand why many developers dont try to continue to make DLC of the game to keep the game alive and get more money.
probably "muh multiplayer" being the main focus for RTS games

Aiden Russell
Aiden Russell

I would like a frontmission-like tau game, or a crazy hack n slash featuring harlequin

Ian Foster
Ian Foster

probably "muh multiplayer" being the main focus for RTS games
But thats the point. Even if you release singleplayer DLC, it would mean people playing the game and so, at least most of them playing multiplayer. Instead the developers miss the opportunity, and let the game be forgotten.

Jace Perry
Jace Perry

the 40k fanbase deserves to be milked like the good boys they are.
retards.

Joseph Young
Joseph Young

I would like a frontmission-like tau game

Not front mission-like game, but there is the game "Fire Warrior" where you played a Fire Warrior Tau. Game had nice design levels, but everything else was average-to-mediocre. Still worthy a playthrought if you are a 40K fan.

Anthony Morris
Anthony Morris

but everything else was average-to-mediocre
Bolters were good.

Andrew Johnson
Andrew Johnson

centurions aren't new. they were added a few years ago.

Joseph Rodriguez
Joseph Rodriguez

No wonder the BattlefleetGothic Armada wiki is still incomplete. Look at the recent "changes" on the wiki.

https://www.bfgawiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=500

Wyatt Hernandez
Wyatt Hernandez

(Alarm! Hackers brake Google ReCaptcha-2!)
kek

Mason Kelly
Mason Kelly

Spam? Guess the game wasn't that important then.

William Richardson
William Richardson

Guess the game wasn't that important then.
It was a popular game, but as said before, it died too soon. But then again, that would be the multiplayer part, and at least the wiki should have strategies and more information for the Space Marines & Tau, right? Well, looks like hungarian shitposting, shitty tips about using gmail, and Paypal crap are more serious themes, that are totally related to the game, guys!

I hope in the near future someone completes the wiki, because this is shamefull.

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