I don't even remember if people have talked about this game here. Do you play it? What do you think about it? Looking forward to the new league/expansion?
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I play it, its pretty good.
There are a few things that kill my interest when I reach the very endgame.
Mostly that the endgame is just built around trying to avoid one-shots and you get bursted for 3/4 of your health regularly.
And running yellow maps with lots of sextants and mods over and over is really boring, and so is Uberlab.
I get you. Once I switched to softcore it became so boring so fast. New expansion is not helping it:
We need more stuff to do. At least one new mechanic worked kinda like breaches, and breaches are fun.
That's because you need to lurk more.
I'm pretty sure there's have been several threads for PoE op
I'm actually interested in the new expansion, since it adds maps, and all that elder/shaper stuff it should make endgame more varied, cause I feel that's what it has been lacking
We had a few decent threads when 3.0 came out. Whats new now that harbinger is ending?
New expansion is in a week where they partly rework reflect, add some ingame content, new league that seems more similar to breach and new gems/uniques.
Not that much seems to be changing.
I really want a map boss rework where the map bosses behave like the bosses in act 5 to 10 and have actual mechanics to play against.
But then again, if I was in charge of this it'd be more of a weird mix of Diablo 2, Dark Souls and Devil May Cry centered around bossfights and style.
New league looks good so far. Gonna start with a cheap spectre build for easy farming if GGG didn't nerf it.
Woops, fuck me then. I've been on and off Holla Forums for a while and only started playing at the very end of legacy, played some harbinger and got distracted by other games. But this league and expansion look like a good excuse to actually get through all the content instead of my usual restart-itis. Planning a caustic arrow build as my first character.
Too busy playing Grim Dawn.
I feel much the same way. It is horrendous that they chose to stick to instant log-out just to save the small minority of hardcore players with unstable internet the pain of losing a character to a disconnect. The game suffers at a fundamental level due to everything is designed around the fact that any threatening situation can be negated with a log-out macro. The day they decide to give up on that design philosophy and embrace skill-based gameplay challenges is the day the game becomes truly great.
The game doesn't really need to be always online in the first place.
Only if you're a literal subhuman with zero self control. You're like those console spergs that claim modding is shit because there's nothing stopping you from deliberately downloading gamebreaking cheat mods which destroy the balance and ruin the experience. For the rest of us, we exercise self control. If I know doing X is going to ruin the game for me, I just avoid doing X. This isn't a difficult concept.
I'm all in favour of having bosses in an arena as main focuse for the end game, as long as you
So far they have failed for most of the bosses. The fact that it's all one-shot deaths or no deaths at all doesn't help either, and with the removal of vaal pact i really don't know what to expect from the next meta.
I mean, you're still gonna get hit from bullshit but this time you can't jump back to full health immediatly. Now other than one shots there's gonna be deaths where an hit takes 95% of your HP and if you get hit again you're dead, and i'm not sure if that's good or bad.
inb4 play HC - i literally can't due to lag, the game seems to freeze but everything looks normal, then it speeds up.
maybe you should try to git gud and not facetank every bosses. Without VP people will have to learn patterns, even if few of them are tricky (they even removed immune), and invest a little bit in defense mechanics. Most of damage spikes/deaths come mostly from unexpected pack of monsters & map mods… And lags. Hard to tell the next meta without full patch notes.
Okay I'm gonna go out on a limb and call you retarded, and the next meta is going to be stacking tons of HP and getting a skill that requires minimal attack investment to sustain yourself
It literally doesn't matter, at one point the boss is gonna crit with an auto attack and it's gonna hit you for 15k. Of course you could argue that you could blind the boss, stay at a distance, use decoy totem, stack dodge/block/damage reduction or even have an EHP greater than 15k. All that will help you survive, and if you wanna call it getting gud go ahead. Then a beyond boss comes out of nowhere and uses vaal DD on the 500 corpses you just created, the game freezes and kicks you out, and you login to find your character dead. There's no getting gud in this game.
Have you considered stacking armor??
:^)
What about when the boss dies, but a connection spike kicks you out before you can collect the loot? How will gitting gud prevent that?
One shots happen all the fucking time, you're only safe if you have 8k+ hp overcapped elemental resists, fortify, endurance charges and incoming physical damage reduced or converted to ele, which is a an absurdly high investment and leaves points for nothing else.
To pretend this game has well choreographed bosses, mobs or even effects that are easily discernible is just utterly delusional.
You have black ground effects that drain HP on dark floors, fucking Harbingers that make everything blue no matter what they are and flood the screen with effects, shit like burning ground or smoke that obscures shit and things I can't even think about.
Or retarded shit like reflect which can one shot you offscreen if you are ranger, detonate dead which will nuke you instantly, mobs critting or retarded uniques like titty bitch in Uberatziri.
This isn't like Devil May Cry or Dark souls where everything (usually) has a good animation with wind up time and a sound cue to tip you off, its fucking chaos and you will get fucked with zero fault of your own.
Defense layers are fucked:
Armor is trash because it only works against small, fast physical hits
Dodge and Evasion are literally RNG which will fail you eventually
Endurance Charges require a good investment and are on most builds already.
Fortify is already on every build.
Mind Over Matter is on every caster build.
Oneshots happen still, every fucking day some streamer dies on stream due to shit they couldn't reasonably see or expect.
If you play enough for any one boss's loot drops to matter, you're obviously at a high level. In which case, you spent a considerable amount of time on the league, so you should know when your connection will be flaky. Ergo, it's your fault for running Shaper 5 mins before the realm goes down, etc.
My connection is always flaky.
People use MoM? It's… okay. I guess.
Dodge and Evasion compliment each other. While it's possible to get bad RNG from being hit, they actually synergize in such a way to avoid that.
Evasion has a rolling counter so if you have an expected 80% evasion rate, 1 in 5 hits WILL hit, guaranteed. But dodge is strictly rng, which means if you fail your evasion roll because of the counter, dodge/block can still trigger and save your ass. Even 4% block matters because it gives you an additional trigger. In addition to this, CWS+Immortal Call applies before damage is taken, which means if you are stunned (see: melee-range caster dps) you'll take no physical damage.
Too bad it's still pure RNG on when dodge decides to work. And if you don't stack life out the ass that 1 hit that gets through is probably gonna be a one shot, not to mention it doesn't work on spells
you can literally stack like 6 layers of defense and still get one hit or instakilled by bad luck. friends don't let friends play hc. the game will never be balanced right for offence or defence because of the ridiculous amount of possibilities for builds
Just never get attached to your character. Take a zen approach.
i'd like to not but I typically deliberate on what build I want to try out for a few days because there's not many im interested in so when I finally do find something I like, i'd rather not lose it to dice rolls
the Scorching Ray Trickster that i'll be making my main build (for now) makes high use of MoM, since trickster makes it incredibly easy to regenerate mana back; and it's a regen based build at that, I don't think i've ever played a safer build. No need to be constantly hitting anything either, just gotta take a split second to refresh the ray stacks and focus on dodging. Very chill.
I always wanted to try self-casting scorching ray but always end up with totems. What should I play for the next patch?
all really dangerous bosses are choreographed (atziri/guardians/shaper/izaro/trio/wolfguy_in_darkforest/chayula). I didn't said you cannot be oneshot, I said map bosses were not the problem, and barely a threat when you're used to it. Still accident can happen but most 1-shot are : porcupine pack, DD totem offscreen, reflect offscreen, delayed bearers explosion, that one double reflect invasion boss (nerfed it iirc?), HH doing too much damage for reflect etc… I hope they really fix all this shit with the new league
Accidents? No, you just need to git gud. Just spend 15 exalts to reroll your t6 map to get some safe mods, when you enter the map you first send your +150% mov speed expendable character, trying to stay alive while scouting the whole map and take notes of every single pack and its mods. 20 minutes later when you're done, you can switch to your main, and proceed to kill each mob individually and then explode it with DD.
Like, git gud man.
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Did the company get sold to someone else? I really liked this game before they pulled that shit.
I got banned and locked out from my account for shitposting on the general chat. Fuck this game.
Like what?
You don't get banned for a little trash talk in chat, i've seen global on the regular; how badly did you fuck up
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It was something related to one of the recenet Muslim terrorist attacks, either on US or Europe (don't remember which one). I mentioned "Religion of Peace" and "Allahu Snackbar", and that was it: first I got an 8 hours ban from chat, then a 268 hours ban from chat (while I was still banned, so it was for the same offense), then I closed the game to do my laundry and when I came back, it wasn't logging from my Steam account. I tried again on the following day so I concluded that I was banned, uninstalled this fucking snowflake bullshit game, and went back to playing Tree of Savior.
I may also have mentioned that GGG is the name of a German studio who does degenerate bukkake porn, so that could also have helped.
What's the fun in that?
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Wait. What zone is this?
In the end it took a white male to save the ooga boogas, like poetry.
That without mentioning how the stronk womyn tribe from Highgate ends up with a coup from another woman taking the current leader and sacrficing her to another corrupted god and devolves into petty politics and two parties making a grab for the leadership position
Also the story of poe doesnt really makes that much sense or has a clear good and evil, for starters all of the characters are cunts one way or another.
If he's talking about act five, that's Roman slave pits and Roman eagles.
Did the Romans have a red/white/black flag? It was identical to the Imperial German's "infamous" flag, except the actual swastika was replaced with the Imperial eagle (probably because Germany isn't allowed to see an image of a swastika).
Imperial Germany was heavily inspired by the Roman Empire and adopted many of its symbolism. What people refer to as "the Hitler salute" is actually the Roman Salute.
Literally Act 5
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Will they fix poison/burning?
This is your brain on liberalism.
I burned out of it mainly because of what user said right here.
End game revolves around log out macros because monsters have the ability to just one shot you.
Lost a level 92 Hardcore character to a OHKO and rage quit the game.
Nothing to fix. Double dipping was removed in 3.0 and the huge nerf was more than intended. They're gonna bring it up a little bit with every patch but don't expect it to ever come back to pre-3.0 levels of damage.
He's not wrong though. The Germans used very specific imagery from Roma and Egyptian paganism for esoteric reasons.
Why? Especially when you know there are OHKOs?
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fuck off with your shit-games, shill
I don't know why it's controversial to point out how Oriath clearly has some aesthetics influenced from Nazi imagery. It was a nice change of pace from all the mud and shit looking areas.
To be fair the game always had nazi imagery, even before the new areas. It doesn't mean GGG are doing it on purpose so you can kill "the ebul nazis", in fact the whole nazi area is a very minor part of the acts, it soons become filled with demons instead of humans. And as far as nazi aspects go there's a flag, the eagle and some hats like pic related. That's literally it. Well, there's the genocide too if you really want to include it but we all know it never happened.
The only SJW thing they did was remove the globe girls, but they reintroduced them anyway, albeit clothed this time.
Shake my damn head, family niggers. I didn't even mention microtransniggers.
I thought I was the only one who associated it with German Goo Girls.
Poe is a game about oneshots. See a monster? It can oneshot you if you are unlucky.
Its basically like in wh40k. Anything is threated as great crime because almost everything can unleash apocalypse.
Best fucking looking thing in a game. Its really nice to see that at least some of them has any talent. Because look at most of mtx, they look like fucking shit.
I never even finished the storyline, but this game will hold a special place in my heart for making me fight through a necromancer dungeon where the only way I could get through it was to cast a spell to explode corpses as I killed enemies. That was fun as hell.
What flaw is this?
Ether oneshots or desynk or shitty graphics or lags for no reason or selling stash tabs or balance problems or long loading not from ssd or something else.
We had a bunch of PoE threads in the past
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ok fuck everything you said including microtransniggers. but fuck it being online game and everything connected to it.
HC is about farming low tier maps and clearing everything from 2 screens away, and this is only after you pay people to do bosses for you.
SC has no difficulty attached to it and gets boring very fast.
If not for the fact I found myself friends to play it with, I would have switched to Grim Dawn years ago.
It's time you get off
Are you sitting on like 90C in the new league to make that even partially viable, and even then since Chaos damage got shit on so hard ,exception of dark pact nonsense but that's a different story, still do less damage than even a sporker or some shit?
I've been playing this game every league since Perandus and I basically quit because I'm so fucking bad at it and I don't know how to get any better. Most of my characters still struggle to clear Act 10 but every once in a while I get to Lv 90.
Then I see streamers and I want to fucking kill myself IRL. So I stopped playing because that shit is too "pro" for me.
Chaos damage can still work fine, but you have to do a little trickery to get it going.
Is that the SJW-UI you're talking about, retard?
And the desync "fix" did indeed work.
The majority of micro transactions you're talking about are mostly about cosmetics in a fucking f2p top-down rpg.
The only thing that gives you any real "edge" in-game is storage spaces, and that is something you start getting once you've put quite a bit of time into the game. (which is when you would get your money's worth if you had even payed for it)
PoE's cash shop is the literal IDEAL that all f2p games should have and anyone that tries to argue otherwise is a bandwagoning redditor that doesn't care about the actual arguments and effects of p2w or any other similar topic; they just want to strut themselves on the internet saying "look at me I believe this thing!"
Neck yourself.
You're fucking clueless.
game is mostly based on knowledge rather than skill. One of the cheapest build to start a league is Necromancer/Spectre based one (with solaris guard), should carry you to T16 map (boss included) quickly, farm normal atziri and stack some currency.
if they don't nerf Spectre wednesday
Reminder that some noname chink won Mayhem SSF with an offmeta hybrid RF meme build and 4 stash tabs.
I don't play meta builds anymore because I find them so fucking boring.
I played 2 Baron builds and a specter build (Before the specter changes) in Harbinger. The play style is just so_fucking_boring.
I think I went through ~10 characters in Harbinger (and probably half of that in Legacy). I am a standard pleb. I can clear to Act 10 in like 8 hours and the only boss I sturuggle with is Innocence (Kitava is a pushover).
nigger what
innocence calls out all his attacks before he does them
inversely i feel like kitavas damage is way too high for the health pool people would expect to have based on the things they fought up to that point. Then again i feel like the whole fucking game has a scaling problem. Its several sharp difficulty spikes instead of a reasonable if not jagged curve.
gee i wonder why
if you want to have fun you need to make builds yourself. Its not like the uniques in the game dont shit inspiration all over you with their wacky effects.
Then maybe try playing with path of building before starting another shitty build and stop being lazy? It's not like it shows you exact dps/eHP/regen or whatever stats you need to know with whatever skill. Even spoonfed people find a way to cry
Armor need a severe rework, not sure if they gonna do it one day. That said reflect/volatile gone is good start
He (act5 version) killed like 8 out of 10 players in 1-10 act. May be it has to do with the fact that people are more careful >meta builds
The problem with metabuilds is that they are really effective. You can play for fun or you can play to win.
And they nerfed some fun skills like discharge. I dont see how you can play it efficiently compared to most builds.
But right now a lot of builds moved to mid tier builds, so you can play a lot of different builds.
Also you can have fun even with metabuilds, just try playing RF right from the moment you can use it.
And still get one shot on crit with ~20k ar granite flask on. Maybe the shitiest layer of defense to invest in if you don't go all-in on it.
I bet you think that 3 endurance charges is better than 20k armor.
They used to be naked. But feminist bigots thought men might enjoy seeing that.
Indeed.
They only changed the UI because a major story expansion came out and they wanted to have the UI reflect that; if it was because of SJWs, why didn't they also censor the statues in the Solaris tileset, or Atziri, or the tentacle machinegun bitches?
I guess change was done to go under the radar of China's regulator, since they appear in every screenshot. Same thing was made with pantheon upgrade, and those bare breast, due to xbox live policy. A bright future we got, between obese puritans and commie chingchong.
Because feminists don't actually play games.
You can see just as much skin on the 3.0 ones as you did on the original UI. Did they also nerf AoE spells across the board to protest fat shaming?
Why do you have to make up a boogeyman when there are enough real SJWs running around and fucking stuff up?
Yeah, I'm sure they added a new UI with a skull for China. China loves their skeletons.
No but Doedre lost a lot of weight between parts 1 and 2.
She's bulimic, don't be so insensitive.
I am planning on making a Necromancer with the new expansion
And since you are a retard with no attention span whatsoever, you uninstalled before you got to the part where it turns out they were making shit even worse than it was before.
The previous changes were for the addition of the new acts the same way 3.0 ALSO resulted in a UI change. If they did it over "muh objectification", then they would have changed the female golden statues (making them literal objects), which you should really take a look at sometime, you might notice a few intricate details if you peek closely enough.
I posted the first image in this thread.
There is more to it than just ass and tits
There's a little camel toe too. Oh wooowwwwwww! Are you 14? Who the fuck cares? There are also big shiny cocks with balls bouncing around.
The point is that the development team isn't so incredibly massive that they would somehow "forget" that detail, and continue to forget it for a couple dozen major expansions, and only remember the UI needing to be de-objectified.
Were there once big vaginas in the UI? I only started playing this game about a month ago.
You can continue acting retarded if you want but you know very well what I meant.
I just remember all the bitching about boobies in the UI back whenever it was. My point was that the statues and Piety's experiments and those naked women strapped to torture racks don't show up until Act three, so the feminists and jackass critics probably have no idea because they were never actually playing the game. Also, Merveil is naked but has no nipples, Yeena is topless but wears these pasties, Mermaid Nessa swims around the ocean in a totally dry, white T-shirt for some reason, all those female Tukohama minions are topless without nipples.
Was Merveil being without nipples something that was there from the start or was it something that was censored later though? Also for topless women, there is also that NPC at the north/north-west part of Highgate, no clue whether or not she too is without nipples, but the point is that jumping to the conclusion of "feminists wouldn't like it therefore it was censored for being sexist" is a pretty big leap. They do have a bias but the absolute most it has ever shown is through the Forsaken Masters update and in general they do very well to counter-act that bias as shown by the shit added to 3.0.
To be fair, to this part you could also use the same argument that feminists and jackass critics wouldn't make it that far. If they can't make it to Act 3 then they sure as hell won't make it to Act 4 and 5.
I just traveled to Highgate in both Acts 4 and 9 and didn't see any topless woman. My understanding of the events is that they initially had a non-nonchalant stance towards nudity, including it whenever it fit. Then the bigots started complaining about "objectifying women" like they always do. GGG knew the whole thing was controversial so they compromised by addressing the main complaint: the UI, but leaving the rest. Then they didn't want to push their luck so they refrained from ever adding any more nudity ever again even where it fits.
There wasn't any bitching worth mentioning. You're just trying to as hard as possible to be offended and persecuted over nothing.
Not how I'm remembering it. unless I'm mixing it up with the Divinity: Original Sin shitshow.
She can read minds!?
here comes the nerfs
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I would like a game with the itemization of path of exile with the combat of diablo 3
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Is that what the UI used to look like?
I just want a game like Path of Exile without the always online.
The UI changes every large expansion, first the "globe girls" were enslaved, as in, lunaris and solaris were imprisoned by the beast, then when act 4 is added the lion and skull are supposed to be some lame ass allegory to daresso and kaom, or lioneye or some shit, then in 3.0 after you killed the beast all the gods came back, which is why solaris and lunaris are back and with their armor.
Not going to say GGG are the most based devs ever but out of all the things to complain about them this is the most retarded.
can I see some screenshots?
Can you imagine
This is frustrating.
It's true, he didn't tell the whole story though
overall it portrays everyone as assholes, but the not-romans are portrayed better
VOREFAGS
That third picture is grotesque
Pretty sure that's what they were going for.
Too bad you're killing shit far too quickly to see anything like pic 1
WTB Atziri's Acuity 3c.
WHY THE FUCK DID THEY NERF RoP?!
OH YEAH BETTER SHOW THOSE RF CLEARS WHO THE BOSS IS?
seriously what the fuck RF was already a mediocre build why did it need the nerf?
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New support gem.
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Auto curse or maim applicator.
T O O P O P U L A R
It's not over yet, more nerfs to come.
RF was one of the top tier mainstream builds this league because it's way easier to get high amounts of life regen these days.
So far none of those nerfs are hitting stuff that doesn't deserve it.
Did you think our vengeance was done, savior?
in fucking what? The slow as shit clear speed?
Pretty sure a RF character just won the mayhem SSFHC race to 100.
The SSF Mayhem Ladder, ironically that dude didn't even use rise of the phoenix.
SSF isn't how a majority of people play the game and you know it
It's the same game. The same maps. The same monsters. The same everything.
And your build has to be even better, since you can't guarantee any specific item which you'd usually get via trading, so if a build does well in SSF it does well everywhere.
I mean it goes to show how strong the skill is, it beat sunderniggers, EK retards, and spectre fags, if it can work with self found gear and beat these skills it's probably good.
Compared to other builds though, it's lackluster.
They require gear, sure but the difference is there.
More than nerfing fucking RoTP is gonna do
They actually called the announcement path of nerfs…oh boi
Selfcast Dark Pact will be completely terrible and Acuities will probably be 1 alch vendortrash. Both of those seem pretty undeserving to me.
Dark pact totems should still work well enough, especially with the new despair curse. They can be well supported with other chaos DoT, wither and blight with spreading rot jewels.
Not gonna happen.
The vaal pact nerf would have probably been enough on that one, I'll give you that one.
1 Alch is obviously an exaggeration, but I doubt they'll be more than 20ex 2 weeks into the league. Considering that they wanted to create more chase uniques that doesn't seem that great.
If vaal pact works with energy shield again the acuities could be the item of choice for es builds to get vp instead of pathing all the way down to duelist. You could then even go with some zealot's oath action as you only get vp for 4 seconds at a time and can normally regenerate outside of that window.
Although that may be a nerf to Slayer to remove max life leech, it shouldn't be forgotten that instant leech prevented overleech from working and that Vaal Pact also doubles the max life leech rate, meaning that Vaal Pact Slayer is going to be meta, especially since it has been moved to the Duelist tree.
Never tried RF Hierophant before, is it decent in terms of investment cost as a league starter?
why there's so many poo in the loo in tec
Three RF totems give good coverage and you can support them with scorching ray and something to trigger elemental equilibrium.
And if you don't feel like the righteous type, try dark pact totems.
I'm thinking more in the direction of self-cast RF so that I could have a nice cheap five-link
Why go hierophant then and not inquisitor?
Good start, shit late game, especially considering all the nerfs. MoM is useless on high level, but you can always switch to pure hp/es later. Hierophant is really bad for everything past lvl 80~. Additional totems are worse than dual totem + tukohama fortress. Even Scion version is better because it gives +1 totem in helmet with no penalty. More mana is useless comparing investment into it with pure hp version. Hell, you can have better results by using fucking blood magic with 5 points investment. And inquisitor still better for mom rf because it has 6% fucking mana regen on consecrated ground.
It was not a nerf, you got 20 hp regen on it.
This implies that RF builds did not try to get as mach fire res as they possibly could by using lvl21purity and max res from tree and a flask and a shield and some passives to boost purity to have additional percent.
And this implies that any other max res required so much in the game.
I will not be surprised if they nerf shavrone wrapping even more, so people will start using fucking solaris whatever instead."We nerf it because its good for lowlife builds". Not a fucking thing should be good for a builds it was made for. Every fucking thing should be mediocre.
Like that time they moved goldrim into hight tier of loot because(reduced droprate to kaom heart level) "a lot of people used it". They used it because it was fucking cheap, you dimwits.
I want to use frostbolt to start this league. Selfcast preferably.
LL, CI, or life?
If you plan on saving for a Shavs or Corruscating Elixir, you can go LL.
LL/CI are dead, go life with MoM or look for mathil's frostbolt build
PATCH NOTES !!!!!
patch notes are up
gee, I wonder. at least some tech companies are starting to realize that poos actually end up more expensive when they have to hire contractors to fix their shit. I fucking hate pajeets so much,
Now that I think about it, this could end up being a buff to Mirror Arrow summoner, since that could be used to bypass the cooldown by having your stand summon minions.
Some really nice quality of life, not seeing duration of offerings though.
Whose minions?
I feel like this is a hint towards the fact that they are actually expecting people to use Essence of Insanity minions now due to Shaper/Elder items. Kinda sucks that they are hinting towards it, was hoping that they would keep quiet on it so that I could get Insanity on my weapons cheaper.
RIP Blyadt Furry + Ruthless
Dancing Dervish might actually become usable for FB now, since now you will have a way to maintain Rampage when fighting tougher bosses
The Ankh will be an enemy now?
Fucking finally, essences are neat but there was never really any way to farm them reliably. Sure, five chaos is a bit much to pay for three weeping essences, but at least it gives a reliable source of them.
This is really nice, now you no longer have to try killing rare and unique monsters with a really shitty weapon.
Are they serious?
Oh boy, cant wait until they adjust cost to "cost as much as most expensive mod".
Is it me or they dont have any buffs except "vulnerability is now str gem" paired with "witchfire bew is now for chaos damage only"?
Golemancer suiciding is no longer an option kek
Looks like they also killed them
Guess is back to Solaris or Lunaris Vanguards or Solar guards for boss killing
… fucking hell I can only imagine GGG's version of "fewer monsters"
not a single old skill rebalance, just lot of nerfs and more path of the same. meh
Seriously? That's it?
Instead of making shitty layouts more adequate, they want to nerf good ones even more. Why not increase number of mobs in shitty layouts so they feel rewarding? Or make bosses there drop significantly more items so players can even do a bossruns if they can?
Why not make shitty layouts filled with more mobs so poor players will be able to reliably farm at slow speed? FUCKING NO! IT WOULD BE LOGICAL AND WILL NOT REDUCE FUN IN ANY WAY! WE MUST REMOVE ALL THE FUN FROM THE GAME!
Because balance, fuck you. I honestly dont get what GGG tries to accomplishes with these map changes, but I'll wait until I see it in action, I still have hope that someday Mjolner will be good again ;^(
I dint saw The Baron nerf, rest in pieces
It's shit.
They have always been SJW. Remember when they censored the health bars?
New Pantheon, looks like a few new gods
The second part of the patch notes must be coming any time now, r-right?
I'm glad my PC is busted, I don't want to play this shitshow right now
Thoughts on this build? How can i make it more tanky?
Wait for updated tree?
The tree won't be that radically different
Fuck this goddamn shaper nigger
What the fuck are you supposed to do when he spawns orbs on you during the bullet storm phase?
Discovered I had the completely fucking wrong approach towards killing shaper, apparently it's dumb to gear/skill defensively.
Bought an unenchanted abyssus for a couple chaos and just killed him fucking dead before the floating orb things ever became a problem.
you need to activate orbs before bullet storm phase. If you miss it, you run in circle in the safe zone without activate it. Take some time to do it right tho
I was getting swamped with the fucking things because it took me too long to kill him with a defensive aura, fortify and endurance charges going so I dropped all that for 3M dps (up from ~1.2M) and killed him without seeing more than 3 orbs total in any phase.
I did not use VP though so don't understand the bellyaching going on about that particular nerf.
It's largely butthurt from people that make builds that only stack enough life to survive getting one-shot and just get as much DPS as possible with no additional layers of defence whatsoever. Vaal Pact is one of the things that created the need to nerf energy shield so heavily, since you could even facetank Uber Atziri's overlapping Flameblast and just leech it back instantly. With Vaal Pact being nerfed, there is the possibility that the game will be far less about building around avoiding one-shot mechanics.
what are you smoking. Unless GGG completely changes their design strategy the game's always gonna be about avoiding 1 shots
Honestly VP nerf is not so terrible since they nerfed reflect. But game still has oneshot problem and ggg refuses to acknowledge it. And VP was quite fun. Its just really stupid idea to nerf fun things without giving anything in return. 3.0 had a lot of significant nerfs but also buffs in patchnotes. While in 3.1 only fucking nerfs, even if some of them are deserved most of them are fucked up.
Instead of buffing lame things to be good, they nerfing good things into shit.
Look at bows. Bows had +4 additional arrows and other shit. But they nerfing them one after another, so every fucking bow is shitty now. And fucking disparity in ggg. One guy makes video about awesome build and other guy fucking nerfs this build afterwards because "it got too popular". They even mention nerfing things because they are not overpowered, but because they are fucking popular. While some ridiculous things remain such as molten strike builds with dps so big they can kill shaper in a couple of seconds. There is no reason to go CI for example unless you are pisspoor. Lowlife has more CI and good chaos res via chaula amulet. Half of the things in game are made only for poorfags. Why design something which works as poor man version of something good?
God I fucking hope so, it's goddamn pathetic how the game's design revolves around one-shots to the point where currently all defensive stats apart from raw hp are dogshit and if you — god forbid — try to create a build that makes use of defensive strategies you end up gimping yourself.
However as this latest patch shows there's little if any interest in ggg to improve impopular builds/mechanics that would bring them up to parity with others and only an agenda of nerfing popular playstyles is felt.
Any good league starter builds for 3.1 btw that haven't been nerfed?
Well with reflect changes and how much they have started concentrating on damage-over-time (I mean, other than the fact that they gutted it) suggests that they might go into having more than just avoiding big hits. What I mean is that, they might start making it so that it would be worthwhile for survivability to take movement speed and mitigation against damage-over-time. Although it will always be about avoiding getting one-shot, what I mean with that is that it will stop being about avoiding one-shots and only one-shots. For example, you don't really see people worrying about having -60% chaos resistance that much, if it's going to kill you then it will always be the hit that gets you, not poison or any other debuff like Essence Drain or Wither. If the debuff does kill you, that will be because the hit left you at 200 life and not because of how super OP the degen is.
There are multiple good starter builds, you should specify what kind of playstyle you want.
Iceballs was slightly nerfed, just as every mom build, but its still good. Raging faggots summoner. Slayer with wings of entropy, cheap as fuck and effective and can move to some real axe later. Mat be facebreaker if you gind gear with #damage.
Yeah, because people dont want movespeed enough.
On shitcore. -60 chaos res means you death.
Wrong, poison from hard hit can really drain you fast. But yeah, usually its green-black triangle shooters who kill everyone with chaos damage. And degen can really fuck up MoM builds.
Thinking ranged since kb hasn't been touched. Kinda wondering what the single target damage is like though with kb
Should be good considering new shaper/elder items. But I am not sure if its a good starter. If you fail to get some good damage items you will be fucked and you will have no hp on the right/top side of the tree.
It's really good if you can get the boss to a wall but if you can't then it's average. You can always use a Tabula Rasa to switch between Barrage and KB if necessary. Alternatively you can go the special snowflake route and make a KB Saboteur miner with two Warden's Brand for a shitload of flat phys (reduced attack speed won't affect you because it doesn't change mine placement speed) and Prismweave so that you won't have to worry about single-target.
After reading through the balance changes, things aren't as bad as they seem anymore. I might actually try Reave now with the big range up on it; but more importantly, I think it's finally time for Viper Strike to be a thing with the addition of Despair alongside Vulnerability.
The buff is also stronger than it may seem, since the lab enchant for Reave is one of the two enchants that increases radius instead of increasing area.
Yeah, new reave looks pretty fucking sweet, to bad the single target its shit, still it should make a decent maper/league starter, if you can keep the stacks up it's not that hard actually but it gets annoying kinda fast
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There's other spectres to go for now like getting Shavronne's grapplers from Act 9 that to a warcry giving them power charges, which would play very nicely into the fact that Shaper items in specific are oriented around crits and that Discharge has a damage effectiveness of 150% with a base crit of 7%.
Aegis Aurora you mean?
Tukohama's Fortress with Necromantic Aegis to give Tukohama's Vanguards double totems, which was nerfed by capping the number of totems to 1
I don't think VP was the problem. I think instant logout macros in hardcore are the problem. If there's no ridiculous oneshots no one on hardcore would ever die.
Oh who the fuck cares about hardcore, it's such a small subset of the playerbase that it makes no sense to balance the entire game around their antics.
Unless that's where all the mtx whales are found
Well to be fair, that is where a lot of the streamers are at and they often have a pretty powerful impact on the market and whatever the current meta is, so it would be fairly naive to assume GGG would stop balancing the game around them. I mean, it's the reason why they increased the amount of experience needed for each level from 95 to 100, because one streamer complained that it's too short.
jesus christ what a faggot
oh I see. Still confused about the nerf
not sure how it works. Also necromantic aegis was used for ages with Victario's Charity, way before Tukohama's Fortress.
hi
can I play this game using fists? or perhaps some grappler/wrestling style? I think I saw something about a particular H2H weapon being available. It's my main interest in PoE over Grim Dawn.
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Those gloves are what you want. You basically stack as much flat physical damage as you can from items and then you punch shit to death. The downsides are the obvious lack of weapons and the stats you can get from them, some mandatory uniques that will cost you and increase the resistances requiremens on other items since they're taking a slot away, and that only a few skills work with unarmed. You can have a shield though.
There's not grappler/wresting stuff in the game.
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Pretty sure they nerfed the high-level XP because people were reaching 100 faster each league.
Yeah, all 20 of them.
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Gear is obviously for later in the league.
The patch notes explicitly stated that it was due to a streamer telling Chris Wilson that levelling to 100 is too short.
did Tigole decide to go on a Path binge?
He's too busy with Oyveywatch to do that.
They always do that shit. One guy makes gamebreaking build, using full set of legacy gear which cost like 20-80 mirrors and as result ggg nerfing every skill he uses because "too strong, must nerf everything related".
The economy's in such a shitshow for that reason alone. "you have an incredibly limited time to do this build" bullshit they pull constantly before they just nerf everything in the game again but leave underpowered gems still underpowered
Its like they copying some games where they sell new heroes, spells for real money, and therefore every new spell is by default better than its released and its nerfed afterwards.
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And I have a fuckin suspicion that they are doing this only to be able to sell legacy items directly for real money. They had related rumors since long time ago and most of "free shard servers" sell ingame items semi-openly. All of it fits the profile.
That's pretty damn good with no added area.
Last time I bought a supporter pack was in Prophecy. I don't think I'll be giving them my shekels if they're aligning themselves to do this.
DIDNT THEY ALSO PROMISE PLAYER-RUN LEAGUES WHEN THE GAME WAS IN CLOSED BETA WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED
Care to elaborate?
People who operate free servers of any game sell ingame items for real money.
Look, why gamebreaking item was kept in game while some small nerfs was made to every existing mediocre item (baron for example)?
It was not gamebreaking item and nerf is not that big. So why the fuck it was mandatory? What is the reason behind this besides "we can sell acuity that way for real money"?
Who is the only one with infinite supply of ingame items? Who can never be banned for RMT? Who decides which item should go legacy therefore skyrocketing its price? (((WHO)))?
They are coming and they going to be great!
Any idea for a build? I still don't know what I am going to play. I want to try something with Infernal Blow but I am well aware the skill suck. Maybe Lightning tendril.
new abyss jewels stats added
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jesus fucking christ
Fuck off kike.
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90% of the prefixes are "Adds X damage to Y weapon type", the suffixes are more likely to give something good though.
You think that's bad? You can get 90 fire damage PER jewel, and you can socket them even in the new uniques. Flat ele is also great for spells. If you think the prefixes are not "something good" you're literally retarded and know nothing about the game.
The new jewels are broken but probably impossible to roll, a pseudo chase item.
What I mean in terms of it being bad is that you have a couple hundred rolls for each weapon type, meaning you are unlikely to get two prefixes you like.
Are you retarded?
Also d3 literally had RMT market built in "game".
get hype
Is Acquisition working for anyone?
Had, you stupid cunt.
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Do we have a guild? If not, can someone make one?
I just want to support my anons with my aura build that I plan on makinng.
Paranoia.
GGG has much more to lose when found out they would sell in game items to players than to gain. It would kill their game quite fast. Besides that in the current iteration in the game it's way easier to get the very rare items than multiple patches ago.
I started playing around a month ago and got up to act 3 I think, but had to stop playing due to IRL stuff.
Supposedly there's some big update to the game. If I keep playing now what will be different or is it end game stuff I won't encounter for a while?
The new league implements some game-breaking gear possibilities available both in early and end-game (Abyss in early game and Shaper/Elder in end-game)
No thanks.
What do you mean "league" ? Will it change the basic SP experience?
Leagues are temporary changes to the base game that last for a couple months. Standard remains unchanged within the time period but if the league mechanic ends up being in demand, under the condition that it isn't either game-breaking or disruptive, it gets implemented in one way or another into the base game. Also there is no reason to go for standard when there is a league in progress.
What's this toucan shit constantly spammed in global? I'm going to guess it's some cancerous Twitch meme.
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Mod to replace the name of the Global tab with Barrens when?
when you go back to reddit
They did this to extend the time that people can stream their "rush to 99", so that they get more advertising from Twitch viewer counts. Twitch is gaming cancer, it's actively affecting game design at this point.
Although cancer more than 90% of the time, it does have its moments.
What the fuck damage type do these abyss mobs do other than "truck", is it really just a shitload of physical or is there some chaos in the mix?
Looks like physical since I can tank it pretty well.
Anyone know if giving your Animate Guardian a Sentari's Answer will cause the curses to apply? I know that minions can't trigger skills but does that extend to "applies level X curse on block"? Having three curses that ignore curse limit would be really fucking good for single-target against bosses that use both spells and attacks.
it should work, but be sure to check first.
Wrong, they actually nerfed the Vanguard spectres to not be able to summon both totems at the same time.
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Maybe people are actually playing the game?
That happens at the start of every league, since people often rush through the game to get an advantage in the economy. For example finding a Tabula at the start of Turmoil meant that you could get an exalt's worth in chaos at the bare minimum.
Basically they can summon 2 totems, but its ggg-unlikely.
A fucking nothing basically unless its close to league end. Usually you can get ahead by purchasing top tier items for cheap compared to end of the league.
But investing is really good. If you want currency.
Something about the game just makes it look ugly as sin, especially the character models.
Witch a cute.
That can most likely still be fixed by either giving them spell echo or increased duration, meaning it is more of a damage nerf than it is the removal of a build.
Some thing are alright. The problem is the fact that ggg are hacks. They have some good artists, but they cant do everything. And ggg has no fucking taste so if they do something good, its purely accidental or it was outsourced.
It felt like the threads were still pretty busy at the start of last league. I can't complain though, I just got an exalt and tabula drop from back to back blood aquaducts.
Shit in my pants, nevermind the other two links, I just have to use this now, and it's only a chaos.
Bump
This is surprisingly good expansion. Bugs aside, they achieved what they wanted. Now people can do bossruns, shaped maps, regular maps with or without clearing boss and not just shaped strands. And new gimmick mechanic is pleasing to autists.
Density is also great.
So here's a question that has bothered me as a noob. I played a haphazard Templar magic build up to act 4 now and got access to the Scion, which seems like a cool base class.
Can I just go YOLO and play the game as I see fit or do I have to get a proper build ready to be remotely successful? Because if there's one thing I hate, it's reaching a high level only to realize I fucked up and my character is worthless.
Also, what's the best way to go sanic fast on a fresh character?
You need a proper build. There are respecs available quite cheap, but its really painful to play shit character. And its not like you will learn what to respec while playing shit character anyway.
Google oro sacrifice slayer flicker. And just dont try to be a smartass. Some flexibility is okay, like picking up resistance passives on tree, but in general you must stick with what guide telling you.
Also in this league its awesome to use new jewels, but I am not sure there is a guide available and I am not going to explain this myself.
But isn't there at least a base guideline to keep to in order to not fully fuck up when leveling? A rule of thumb? The sheer size of the game and freedom to develop a character is daunting to me.
Sure. Google it. Just start playing in abyss league, not in standard.
builds are for retards
why even play a game like this when you are going to let someone else make your character for you.
So since I can't play the game right now and the wiki is a little fucky, what's the deal with abyss jewels?
Can you post a screencap of a typical one?
Because you just started playing and therefore know nothing and game is complex enough to allow you to fail horribly. Sure, its more fun to learn everything yourself if its a proper rougelike, but poe is not designed to be played without heavy usage of wiki and other sources.
They give flat damage and they are weighted towards one type of weapon(or spell). For example picrelated. You cant have different types of shit on them like sword damage + dagger damage, only one type + generic type.
And flat damage is crazy good on low levels and for some builds. For example facebreaker will deal more damage than fucking atziri disfavor. Or wand build with elemental damage with over 100 additional flat damage per jewel.
They have crazy flat damage on them. CRAZY
Update on maps. Apparantly high tier maps are small and somewhat empty. And even with 100% atlas bonus you may struggle with keeping your map pool.
You're horrible at reccomendations
Oh boy.
As if I care about poorfag opinion. Slayer can rape the shit out of everything with this build with new support without anything besides oro for 1c.
how does Terminus flicker fare now, at that?
How the fuck would a new player have any money dumbass.
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Basically flicker + ancestrall call + splash from slayer can be really good versus abysses. And everything fast hitting is good. Not sure about pathing, but its not really my problem.
Sure, new players must play enixpensive builds. Such as wearing white items(to save on id scrolls) in every slot. BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE ANYTHING!
Stop being so fucking poor. If you cant even farm for one of the cheapest builds, you should not fucking play at all. What the fuck is build that dont require fucking items?
summoner or pretty much every single spellcaster setup you could think of.
this entire situation reminds me of WoW where people wouldnt let you in their group until you had the gear you got from beating the dungeon you were trying to enter. Its not that its impossible to beat the dungeon with sub par gear but that the people doing the dungeon only know how to overkill or get carried.
So what im saying is dont be a little bitch boy and put in some extra effort and attention and its perfectly doable. End game shit is pure autism though good luck with that. By the time you reach end game though you should be able to kit yourself out at least half decently.
As a new player or as a league starter, relying on a specific unique to enable your build is generally a bad idea. Sure it's common enough later, but in the first weeks, even common shit will be needlessly expensive.
That said, casters itemize differently from melee characters, so their item costs are way lower, because their damage scales more from the spells/interaction than the base weapon damage
No matter how they tweak the grinding gears of this game, there will always be a fundamental problem preventing it from being good. The combat is not fun.
hitting 70ish with random yellow gear is perfectly doable with (almost) all builds. if the build you want doesn't support it you can probably work around it using different skills that benefit from a similar tree.
i can't say i've experienced public groups much anyway.
there's a basic building guide on the forums
i think it's a bit out dated (mostly in terms of energy shield nodes) but it's a good guideline
Nigga you serious?
Flicker in general just requires shit to get going, not to mention you can't use flicker effectively until late game.
It cost fucking nothing. What is wrong with you? Are you literally so poor you cant afford 1c items? If you cant afford it you should just play different games. And to be unable to do it path of exile must be your 1st fucking game in your fucking life.
Its a terrible curse
You can make money simply by doing chaos recepie, selling all your non chaos currency and you'll have like 200 chaos by the time you reach maps.
>he thinks flicker strike build means leveling with flicker strike all the way from level 10
Are you too retarded to read any leveling section of a build guide?
I'm saying that's a horrible suggestion for any new player "Play something else for 60% of the game, then spend all your respec points and also this build can't even do endgame shit effectively so have fun"
Shavronne's Gemling spectres are really good. Although they largely only discharge frenzy charges due to Victario's Charity, they still use their warcry for power charges.
Also finally managed to try out my Animate Guardian setup. He does apply the three curses but I only ever see Punishment if anything (most likely since bosses die without ever hitting him). Initially I had planned for Bringer of Rain (for charges) and Sentari's Answer, but it turns out that there is a Shaper/Elder affix that gives endurance charges on block on one-handed weapons so I took that instead.
Keep on moving those goalposts.
Oh yeah, I also most likely only see Punishment because he applies Temporal Chains from Asenath's Touch anyway and Elemental Weakness would require him to successfully block a spell, for which he has only 15% chance.
Slight correction, forgot my own shield's block chance so he gets 24% which is still fairly low considering how rarely he gets hit due to the sheer number of minions.
This is no longer your Atlas, old man.
Its great that players actually do cartographer job now.
He is just 2 kids(or midgets) in a coat, one sitting on shoulders of the other.
Speaking of the Atlas, what are some good maps to shape?
Vault is the best. Cage, alleyways, dunes, the rest has many options or irrelevant. For tier 5 its better to shape ancient city so you can trade 3 of them for shaped fields. I personally shaped alleyways and cage because they are awesome. But did not shaped atoll because it will block the vault.
Game is trying to tell me something, but I dont know what.
pure coincidence
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29% increased Burning Damage
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Elder Item
This worth anything you think?
It was fucking foreshadowing. Ripped moments later due to not noticing reflect on map. 92 lvl, god fucking dammit.
Nothing. Useless for rf because RF only have 3 gems that can support it and it needs essencecraft 30% more damage.
Last time I died in HC was because a huge fuckin spider crawled on the wall in front of me. It was then that I said fuck HC, and its gay restricted builds and dying for shit reasons.
FIFTY NIGGERS
Big whoop. I consider kaom axe the best item this lockbox can drop.
You ar supposed to run like hundreds of them before anything worthwhile drops. And soon you realise that only t15 maps have a chance of good shaper/elder items and everything below is mostly garbage. At least at the start of the league it still may cost something as base type for crafting.
I'd rather have a free 200c if it's all the same to you.
And Id rather be a 16 y/o child of a billionaire. But in real world, that lockbox only drop shit items.
check em
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should I just transfer
Takes like 40 min to farm it yourself. Also divines cost 1c on softcore?
They were ~8c yesterday and it is still 8c. That 1c must have been price fixer or to use much less community terminology because it is much more accurate scammer.
Also just farm it. Unless you actually have team to play, stay with SSF.
pathofexile.gamepedia.com
And by farm for people unaware, it means farming div cards in specific areas.
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Sorry friend, they all belong to me apparently. I can't even use them due to the nature of my build.
contain your asshurt
How am I supposed to kill Eradicator? The fucker is the opposite of every other boss released in this expansion.
>most of attacks are telegraphed and easily often avoidable
Reminds me of Esh with his fucking nova attack.
Just a little bit of crit never hurt anybody.