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Every bad thing I hear about EA makes my day every day. I hope they die by the end of next year.
Charles Peterson
I didn't know that garbage game had based developers.
Benjamin Allen
I thought they all died out and became myths?
Logan King
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Levi Nelson
Who edits this shit?
Grayson Roberts
It reminds me that angry birds situation.
Kayden Perez
Pre-acquisition Popcap were some of the better guys in recent years. They were just unlucky to have gotten big in a time where everyone was doing the same shit they were making them look like copycat Jews.
Ryan Gray
Also i am amazed that a developer can get fired for disagreeing with the publisher.
Oliver Nguyen
jew gets fired by jewest jew for not becoming a jewer jew
Michael James
You know the firing happened in 2012, right?
Jaxson Martin
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Joshua Edwards
Has EA officially gone insane? BF2 is shaping up to be a flop, they're in the middle of a PR disaster and their next move is to fire somebody for refusing anti-consumer features?
Hudson Moore
OP pulled some clickbait bullshit with EA is going rogue as if this firing is new, and you're an illiterate faggot.
Gabriel Brown
To be fair, the article itself also did that. I assume OP posted it before reading it first just like I did
Juan Smith
Here I'll post an image since you don't know how to read.
Evan Anderson
Re-read the OP, then read my response, then neck yourself.
Jace Myers
The guy was fired years ago, the story of WHY is just now breaking. It's fantastic timing, even if it's not the perfect shitstorm wants it to be, because now we have that much more fuel for the fire of "EA is a soulless company that doesn't give a damn about their consumers."
Chase Taylor
Plant vs Zombies was alright for a casual game. Why is it that casual publishers cannot just focus on making simple but fun games and instead always do the most scummy stuff imaginable?
Benjamin Edwards
Something something south park something something
Anthony Cook
Because they're more interested in getting buddybuddy with Hollywood types and get invited to those sodomite cannibalism parties. Being an honest businessman won't do that for you.
Jaxon Miller
But both PvZ2 and PvZ Heroes are pay2win. They are not the worst offender of pay2win but they are still pay2win.
Camden Campbell
Why do you think they fired the guy that didn't want p2w to shit up his game?
Xavier Turner
This is every single profitable business in existence. Examine any product you own or consume, and you'll find equally scummy practices if you look deep enough, and at the end of the day, nobody really cares. The only upheaval the industry is going through is money moving away from AAA singleplayer experiences with tacked on multiplayer modes, into p2w "games", mobile or otherwise, and the multiplayer market being dominated by a handful of titles that have completely saturated the market.
Pirate all of your media, and just be done with it.
Jonathan Carter
Adding fuel to the fire already? They couldn't wait for the Star Wars shit to blow over?
Alexander Jones
No wonder why PvZ2 is a mobile only game with pay2win. PvZ Heroes have some good ideas for a CCG (it is not a 100% Hearthstone clone) But it is too grindy/pay2win. How bad was the grind or pay2win in Garden Warfare 1 and 2?
Robert Phillips
You know, with all this talk about P2W and shit, has there ever been a situation where hacking groups managed to destroy the living shit out of the companies involved in the scams by letting players own a shitload of fake currency for free? I recall there being a group of TF2 autists doing just that with an exploit in the drop server, but that got shut down pretty quickly.
Joshua Morales
what else is new? It's not like he was a heroic rebel fighting the system
Juan James
Strange how I never heard anything about that movie again even though it had strong symbolism regarding "refugees".
Alexander Lopez
Someone tried it with Kancolle I think and ended up in either in jail or court. Can't really remember the details.
Josiah Hughes
You fags are fucking embarrassing sometimes.
Dylan Bailey
Too bad they had to change the Michael Jackson zombie to a disco one because of pressure by the Michael Jackson estate. It was maybe a year or two after his death so I guess I get the sentiment but parody should be covered under fair use. If they used an actual sample of his music I could understand but he was one of the better looking zombies than just Disco Stu zombie.
Ed McMillen only spilled the beans after Fan told him recently. Guys been gone from his creation for years. It was the timing of the pay-to-win controversy that he decided to tell the story. Also good to promote his new game Octogeddon.
Ryder Bell
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Nathan Hernandez
Why do you make it sound like this was a recent event? It was only revealed now. The firing happened ages ago.
Anthony Hernandez
I'd used to say that people with the ability to think and comprehend went to Holla Forums, but the state of that board has gone down pretty dramatically too. I think the truth of it is just that the best of chans have grown out of it, and are now using their skills in the real world to make the events that the internet can later claim they were responsible for.
Jack Adams
No, more like past posters in Holla Forums have been time and time again shown that they can't spend all their time in Holla Forums any longer. A lot of the older posters now main Holla Forums. I can't speak for them but I'll probably come back to Holla Forums in larger capacity once the world isn't such a bad place for vidya.
Ayden Cooper
it will get you less profit, so it's not a better idea
Gabriel Reyes
I hope that someday Gamergate will be remembered as the event that pushed a politically apathetic people into the Right Wing Meme Squads that helped Trump get elected
Camden Morales
yes?
Carson Cook
Remember this game? yeah, me either, released last year on February and it's fucking dead, guess they needed to recoup money from putting this game as a Xbone exclusive, and too bad the guy didn't want a repeat with PvZ2's bullshit microtransactions that practically killed the franchise.
Isaiah Jenkins
If that was the case, EA wouldn't have to shut down so many studios every time they're hurting (though they sometimes do it just to get an IP). Keeping around a ton of good devs allows you to maintain a good customer relationship and allows you to make more IPs to milk in the future.
However, thanks to microtransactions, the sale of games don't matter as much because milking one whale makes up for a hundred buyers. And these whales care about being the best, not whether the game is good. You don't need good devs to make mediocre games.
Cameron White
I don't understand why EA politics is to turn every game into shooter like battlefield. Wasn't original PvZ was tower defense?
Ethan Jenkins
A dev with a spine? Holy shit.
Charles Russell
Son, they turned Battlefield into Cowadoody. The last two Battlefield games were 2, and 2142, and they were two sides of the same coin.
Nathaniel Morgan
That doesn't matter either because you can falsify all microtransation data to foot investors.
Sebastian Sanchez
Klote jood.
Luis Roberts
And now we can't play either anymore because EA CnD'd Revive
Andrew Powell
This. No excuses required. So long as publishers are courting whales they won't miss me, you or the first hundred-ish people they drive away that actually give a shit about any of this. But that point is made assuming they lose money due to piracy, which they don't.
Evan Turner
is he {{{ourguy}}}?
Nolan Sanchez
That gets executives thrown in prison fam. That's fraud.
Isaiah Anderson
nice cuck logic cuck
Brayden Turner
Maybe you should have actually read the article.
Hudson Turner
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Jackson Ross
So, how long until Zampella and West are fired from EA's Respawn Studios?
Jaxon Adams
I dont know but your quads are to be admired.
Evan Baker
How poorly animated those crossed arms are angers me.
Normalfags didn't mind it and calling attention to it would just make people think of the situation in the movies and its themes more.
Logan Cruz
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Lucas Wilson
It's not like devs have unions to ensure they don't get fucked over.
Jose White
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Brody Martin
They've only fixed the animation in the scenes that were shown during the controversy. To this day the game is still a buggy mess and will never be fixed.
Hunter Johnson
wew
Julian Brown
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Joseph Hill
dont buy EA games, period.
Gavin Ortiz
Good. Mass effect ended at 2.
Bentley White
Whatever his name is he's going to video game heaven. Another one: The president of facebook's latin american division went to jail in Brazil for refusing to give the personal data of latin american facebook users to the brazillian government.
Oliver Williams
…What?
So it's second hand and the guy supposedly screwed this hard didn't say anything? Despite not signing whatever? Why?
Yeah, obviously not a bullshit move to help the poor indie developer oppressed by the man. Anyone remember related?
Kayden Nguyen
Nah, Mass Effect was always shit, and you're delusional if you think otherwise.
Eli Reed
Disregard the flag.
Xavier Garcia
Plants VS Zombies 1 was actually a really fun game, pumped a lot of hours into it.
Ian Sanchez
i like to kick EA as much as the next guy, but we are getting second hand info on this.
i think it went down more like EA going- "hey your going to make plants vs zombies 2" "alright sure" "it has to be pay to win" "i don't really want to do that" "okay then, we're going to do it anyway if you don't want to work on it theres the door" "arlight bye"
and what we got is sensationalised hearsay
Hudson Davis
I can't help but view this as just a calculated way for them to get out from under EA's thumb while simultaneously generating maximum good will for some future project/kickstarter - and/or - he was already in talks with another development studio who would "give him shelter" for PR points they can use to market their games.
Nothing ever happens in this industry from the goodness of anybody's heart.
Isaac Edwards
Implying this isn't the case already?
Joseph Morales
Maybe you should suck start a shotgun you dumb nigger, because OP clearly didn't fucking read it before posting it as if it was something EA just did.
William Kelly
Holy shit, EA is at it again with their shekel grabbing.
Parker Adams
Garden Warfare 1 and 2 was pretty much just cosmetic shit you get from card packs that you get with almost no work. Plus all added content was free. Bet if a 3 came out it would be complete cancer though.
Henry Morris
It still had a tower defense mode along with the battlefield like shooter portion.
Julian White
I just listened to that round-table with edmund. Came here to post it up lol
Xavier Gray
it blew up because super meat boy dev just talked about it. open secrets
Christian Thompson
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Michael Perez
GW2 was grinding for loot boxes for a chance at getting a piece of a character class. It also has microtransactions. Of course it has microtransactions.
Hudson Morales
post yfw
Wyatt Howard
but Plant vs zombies is fun, user-kun.
Christian Gray
I'm pretty sure plant vs zombies 2 already had p2w elements, at least the phone port. dunno if there's even a plant vs. zombies 2 on PC, but I saw my cousin playing one on his phone and that shit had stuff you had to pay not only to unlock but to also use in-game, or this is something that happened before that?
Juan Phillips
Unless you're just fucking with me and being ironic, I absolutely pity you for not having real fun and assume you never truly lived as a human being
Angel Taylor
The first one was pretty fun for how simple it was even though it gets more and more annoying as you go on, but I guess that's part of the fun. The game is never unfair in that aspect.
Justin Moore
I feel like EA will never die. Casuals will keep buying their games as they always have. Commentary 5 years ago still applies today.
Edmund is one of the most based indie devs I've known
Tyler Gonzalez
It's one of those games that makes you think they could do something cool with it and then EA happens. What a shame.
Joshua Thompson
Ok here's your (you) and a reaction pic newfag
Levi Long
I liked PVZ and was using it a lot on the phone, the first had some microtransition but you could still grind your way through. The second you had energy to play level, plants locked on paywall and you either spent 3€ on consumable or you grind for a month most likely this dev is like all the whores in Hollywood and claiming retroactive rape after getting the deal of becoming famous
Carter Gonzalez
I thought so, which is why I was wondering if he was fired before or after all that, considering how full to the brim of microtransactions PvZ2 was.
Ryder Wood
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Grayson Adams
delet this
Hudson Powell
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Jordan Walker
Did anyone read the whole story? The firing was back in 2012 but they just barely found out the REASON he was fired two days ago.