The Van Guy

Colton Nelson
Colton Nelson

What all does Jacket do to the guy in the van before he sets him on fire? It seems to censor it through flashes of TV static and his corpse is just more and more fucked up looking on the ground. What was the intended effect? He seems to get it the worst out of all of Jacket's victims, and he's just a random regular guy. Seems like this kill should have been saved for the final boss.
Maybe it was his hair that pissed Jacket off more than typical enemies in the game. It's not like the boss fight was hard or anything.

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Joseph Davis
Joseph Davis

Jacket fucks him up to show how much of an animal he was and how detatched he's become. Also remember this is the guy who drills into peoples' heads, pours boiling water onto peoples' faces, gives people debilitating head injuries and just watches them crawl around on the floor half-retarded before snapping their neck, and killed a nigger by pushing his thumbs into his brain through the eyes. Dislocating someones limbs and then lighting them on fire really isn't that out there for the protagonist to do in that game.

Austin Bell
Austin Bell

Hotline Miami thread…?

Luke Russell
Luke Russell

Seems like this kill should have been saved for the final boss.
You seem to forget he did beat the shit out of other mob bosses, and the final boss would have gotten the same shit if not worse had he not taken his own life.

Camden Reed
Camden Reed

Reminder that this is the only good song in Hotline Miami 2, and that the gameplay is a massive step down in every way from 1.

Chase Sanchez
Chase Sanchez

Television static is a common motif in both games to express sleep or dream-like sequences. It's entirely possible that what you saw didn't really happen or the basic events happened but the details are off the mark. It doesn't help that Jacket's coma dream is proven to be unreliable due to Biker still being alive in HM2, so in my opinion I don't think Jacket was actually that brutal in dealing with the Van Guy.

Brody Miller
Brody Miller

I haven't played it yet. Is it worth it?

Levi Carter
Levi Carter

If you really enjoyed the gameplay flow of 1, and going fast as fuck at all times, you'll dislike 2. If you played 1 by door peaking and baiting each room, 2 will be right up your alley.

Dylan Morris
Dylan Morris

It's definately different, it's more difficult and often in a frustrating way, and it's played a lot differently than the first game. This does not make it a bad game, it has it's bad moments at time, but overall I enjoyed it.
contrary to what the other guy said, the soundtrack is much better in 2.

Tyler Morales
Tyler Morales

It has it's moments. It's not quite as good as HM1 due to the level design favoring gun-wielding enemies and the story is not quite as consistently solid, but some parts are better than the original game. IMO, it's worth a playthrough, at least.
Besides, there's the level editor with some nice stuff made in it.

Brayden Evans
Brayden Evans

Also I just noticed that the Van Guy's face sprite is actually just Richter in a wig. I don't know whether to chalk it up to reused sprites or more foreshadowing but I'm leaning towards the former.
Good choice but I prefer DETECTION and Run.
I hope you're ready for a window simulator.

Jordan Collins
Jordan Collins

Gameplay is more of the same, it's the level design that is lacking.

Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill

The level design is an integral part of the gameplay as a whole, so no, it's not the same.

Kevin Murphy
Kevin Murphy

drills into peoples' heads

hmmm that satisfyingly disturbing sound the drill made

I loved that mask, I would just play one map after the other trying to kill every person with the drill.

Lucas Collins
Lucas Collins

I think it was in his mind. after his fight with the biker stuff should be taken with a grain of salt in my opinion. If you notice he's a combination of the face of the guy who killed your girlfriend and the hair color of the biker, it seems to me like escapism.

Noah Cox
Noah Cox

WHY AREN'T WE TALKING ABOUT THE MIAMI MUTILATOR?

Josiah Kelly
Josiah Kelly

. . .

Parker Bennett
Parker Bennett

Also the weapon swing animations are "off", sloer and "wrong". I already noticed this in the first HM2 gameplay videos maybe in 2013 or so, the WOOSH WOOSH of the first game was gone and it was WOOSH–animation–WOOSH–

Brandon Barnes
Brandon Barnes

The guy had to die so gruesomely for that shitty boss fight.

As anons say, there's a lot of baiting segments, and much more gun play than in HM1. There's a lot less options on how to complete the levels, and that's a shame. However if you can overcome the higher difficulty and beat the game, you'll probably find it enjoyable in the end.
There's also a bunch of well done fan made campaigns

Like this masterpiece

Jacob Brooks
Jacob Brooks

What happened with Midnight Animal?

Nolan Collins
Nolan Collins

The angry chink that was making it lost his gf then played Persona 5 and decided to rip it off and turned Midnight Animal into a story of lost love or whatever he called it.

Asher Lopez
Asher Lopez

Anime, the faggot getting assmad about his gf leaving him, and yandev tier shit, etc. So sad to see it die like this.

Jace Flores
Jace Flores

Was a big thread about it, the answers before me summed it up pretty well.

Grayson Carter
Grayson Carter

The dev cancelled the project after people gave him shit for turning the game into a VN.

Hudson Bell
Hudson Bell

He fucking deserved it too.

Anthony Nelson
Anthony Nelson

Nu-Persona kills everything it touches.

Samuel Brooks
Samuel Brooks

Custom campaigns pretty much save hotline miami 2 but I actually never had a problem with all the windows and "big" levels.

Jace Walker
Jace Walker

forgot embed from best custom campaign

Joshua Howard
Joshua Howard

Since 2/3's of the game is about Jacket pieces together his memories while he's in a coma: Jacket can't quite remember what he did to that van guy and he's not even sure what he looked like because his face is depicted as an amalgamation of Richter and Biker.

He wakes up with retrograde amnesia and the only things he remembers are the things we're shown so he might have thought that what he did to the van driver was too gruesome for him to want to remember (which might also answer one of Richard's questions: no, he doesn't particularly like to hurt people, at least not that much).

Michael Reyes
Michael Reyes

The coma definitely makes everything before Trauma unreliable. But in addition to the TV static, it also tears control away from the player until the end. I saw the scene as intending to show that Jacket is losing control of himself.
Lack of control is a recurring theme in HM. You follow 50 blessings without question, no matter what they tell you to do. You fall into a twisted routine of: Wake up, answer the phone, go on a killing spree, go get free stuff from beard, go to sleep, repeat. You have no way to break out. You don't know what you're doing and you don't really care, because you enjoy mass murder. Jacket and the player are both here for the thrill of combat high. He nor the player have any agency in his life, any control he or the player think they have is an illusion. As you approach Trauma, the cracks in the illusion start to show, until the entire stage collapses and Jacket tries to take control, but it turns out that he's still just dancing to someone else's tune.
At least HM2 got the right thematic end to Jacket's story: Locked in a prison cell and blown to smithereens

Kevin Evans
Kevin Evans

Wasn't that the same faggot in the van that fucks you up with molotovs? Good, he deserved worse.

Camden Russell
Camden Russell

I remember being extremely tired of getting shot through a window by a shotgun in the other end of the level, but I guessed I got used to HM2 being like that in the end. After beating normal mode, playing the game on hard mode didn't feel nearly as hard. HM1 and HM2 are just really different gameplay-wise, both have their ups and downs, I guess.

Anthony Taylor
Anthony Taylor

You're wrong though

Nolan Powell
Nolan Powell

Good. Fuck him.

Logan Jones
Logan Jones

not JACKT
not Purrple's

Sebastian Myers
Sebastian Myers

Is someone interested enough in the game and the sequel to actually write an entire text explaining the story of the game ? I didn't really like the gameplay but I loved everything else and I never bothered with the second one.

Ryan Murphy
Ryan Murphy

Didn't like the gameplay.
How much of a casual are you, sonny?

Cooper Jones
Cooper Jones

Difficulty wasn't the issue, I just don't enjoy the game, I had too much issues with technical details and mechanics with it that prevented me from liking it.

Aaron Scott
Aaron Scott

technical issues and mechanics
Such as?

Owen Watson
Owen Watson

It's been about 4 years but I remember mainly having issues with the camera and some controls.

Ayden Martinez
Ayden Martinez

holy shit my sides

Carter Collins
Carter Collins

fedora mobster
not trash

Jayden Kelly
Jayden Kelly

<no midnight animal even with the persona layers on top
<everyone still thinks hm2 is bad because muh windows; what the fugg is shift???; MUH MELEE MUH TONY :–DDDD

Charles Watson
Charles Watson

(1)
No surprise here. Thanks for the bump.

Aiden Garcia
Aiden Garcia

what are you implying?

William Collins
William Collins

Okay, I'll admit that one biker level was shit. The HLM2 levels were too open and players easily find themselves killed by enemies they couldn't even see. HLM1 was good because death was usually caused by player error rather than some unlucky crossmap instakill horseshit.

Luis Brown
Luis Brown

To be honest what killed HM2 for me was the lack of replayability. In HM1 you could redo missions with different setups, go for score, find hidden secret, play the whole game in French and add some difficulty to the mix. In HM2 you have a handful of occasions when you can approach the level a bit differently but outside of the Flamethrower or the combat roll they don't really offer as much fun shit to do as in 1.

Isaiah Rodriguez
Isaiah Rodriguez

Speaking of custom campaigns, there doesn't seem to be a Hotline Miami 3 yet. That's pretty much why Dennaton put it in there. Instead people just keep making crap like this.

Thomas Smith
Thomas Smith

Tbh it looks like a generic ass mod.

Christopher Howard
Christopher Howard

Every mod, form the serious to the meme ones, are 100% canon.

Owen Turner
Owen Turner

This post was meant for

Cameron Long
Cameron Long

That effectively makes Hotline Miami into a multiverse. I'm willing to accept it, considering everything got nuked, which is stupid.

Adrian Brooks
Adrian Brooks

So what do you guys think their next game is going to be?

Zachary Flores
Zachary Flores

muh fedora
What?

Hudson Diaz
Hudson Diaz

If I had to guess, a game similar to Hotline Miami except in the old west. The music will probably be shit and that second webm looks like Ghost.

Samuel Roberts
Samuel Roberts

Looks like a card game or something.

Lucas Sanders
Lucas Sanders

it's very hard to fuck up old western music, I doubt the music will be the shit part.

Ryder Bennett
Ryder Bennett

It'll probably be western-themed electronic music, which isn't bad if they pull it off. The question is whether or not they will pull it off.

Grayson King
Grayson King

The entire point of the ending of HM2 was "no there won't be an HM3, fuck off"

A prequel or side story might be possible but HM2 literally ended in a nuclear apocalypse' you can't really get a HM style sequel out of that.

Dylan Morales
Dylan Morales

Here's something I never quite got.
Why did Jacket puke after killing the bum? it wasnt like it was his first kill or anything.

Lincoln Torres
Lincoln Torres

you can't really get a HM style sequel out of that.
Unless dennaton is challenging the fans to try to create it. If someone can make a campaign where manny pardo goes back in time to kill Hitler as the terminator set in 1945 Berlin, someone can definitely make a post nuke campaign. Maybe the setting just isn't that interesting anymore. Bethesda kinda milked the shit out of it already.

Zachary Perry
Zachary Perry

It's almost like they were just making shit up as they went along.

Jeremiah Morris
Jeremiah Morris

He was in the moment right up until then, you know, murdering those guys in that subway station, whole night caught up to him when he was done

Carter Campbell
Carter Campbell

2 words Hotline Miami Commi Zombies

Caleb Lee
Caleb Lee

You mean to tell me that you believe that Jacket's entire military background was an asspull?

Cooper Parker
Cooper Parker

How does it feel to have shit taste user?

Wyatt Sanchez
Wyatt Sanchez

No clue but I'm liking the art

Anthony Richardson
Anthony Richardson

It will be electric western
Why the fuck would it? Hotline Miami was only electronic audio because 80sXDLMAO

Nathan Wood
Nathan Wood

It'll probably be a lot of El Huervo.

Blake Ramirez
Blake Ramirez

Plus most people didn't realize there actually was a function in the controls to look farther then you could see normally.

Brandon Long
Brandon Long

The only saving grace from HM2 is the music, and fuck windows.

Eli Thompson
Eli Thompson

Honestly under a different game Dead Ahead would have been a 10/10 god tier level.

Brayden Flores
Brayden Flores

It's worth only for the story, not the game-play.

Logan Johnson
Logan Johnson

Which one was dead ahead again?

Brandon Ward
Brandon Ward

Sure thing. Do you want chronological events, or events as the game portrays them?

Colton Edwards
Colton Edwards

Probably.

Ian Morales
Ian Morales

because that's what their brand as developers have become associated with. They're also maintaining the same aesthetic, so it'd only be logical for them to have the same general music direction as well. Sage for double post.

Elijah Richardson
Elijah Richardson

You´re not allowed to post here if you have shit taste. Here this is the best music obviously.

Jack Collins
Jack Collins

Cocain Cowboys

Lincoln Wilson
Lincoln Wilson

Dead Ahead was a 10/10 god tier level
fixed that for you
also best track

Gavin Brooks
Gavin Brooks

Sounds like the crap i composed when i discovered fruity frootloops loop fruits. Absolutely atrocious, not even trolling tbh.

David Perez
David Perez

Holy shit, good news for anyone who doesn't have the steam version.

https://www.gog.com/forum/hotline_miami_series/lots_of_communitymade_campaigns_and_single_levels_for_use_in_hotline_miami_2_gog_version/post19

Aiden Torres
Aiden Torres

Could be something like Extreme Prejudice, which was a western that took place in the 80s

Michael Jones
Michael Jones

I'd probably rather it be the RDR to Hotline Miami's GTA. It doesn't need to be 80s or electronic. Whatever it is.

Charles Parker
Charles Parker

My guess would be it's gonna be a regular western setting since the characters in the clips are named after old west legends. But considering it's Cactus working on it it'll probably be psychadelic/surreal much like HM.
Either way, I'm glad the setting is getting some love, by devs who aren't complete fuckheads no less. I really ought to make more progress on my own western project.

Aaron Cruz
Aaron Cruz

What do you guys think of Le Cartel? Interesting how their logo is literally Richard.

Matthew Bell
Matthew Bell

Mother Russia Bleeds was kinda bland, though I liked the aesthetics.

Joshua Gray
Joshua Gray

pretty rad. I think I'm going to stream this for some friends

Austin Adams
Austin Adams

Just fyi I think the thing is a full VN, there doesn't to be persona elements, nor gameplay, only text and graphics.Also, it's not called midnight animal anymore

Daniel Watson
Daniel Watson

And the art style changes again.

Benjamin Jackson
Benjamin Jackson

I think the chick is modeled cough cough traced cough after a brazilian cosplayer. And maybe he's modelling himself as the protag? I dunno, but it would explain.

Jason Foster
Jason Foster

He had a thing for killing communists, but not actual Americans.

Henry Morgan
Henry Morgan

look at the horrible clash in artstyles holy shit.

Wyatt Morgan
Wyatt Morgan

That's actually an amazing explanation. I believe there is actual videotapes of some european soldiers torturing and killing african militia and when asked if they felt something they said no because they not considered their enemies to be human beans in the first place, and they wouldn't stand doing that with neighbors. I think the only problem with this example is that people here are so /pol/minded that seeing black people as animals is already natural, my point is that with the right mental gymnastics you can consider any group of people to not be worthy of the title of being human, and behave as this is real, even in physiological level.

Lucas Cook
Lucas Cook

it's so weird seeing him smile, it's makes him look not-insane for some reason, he looks normal.

Austin Cox
Austin Cox

people still think Manny did it for attention
noone noticed that he was on the payroll of The Son
noone noticed that he was hunting down the Masked guys because The Son forced him to
noone noticed The Son has some shit on him
noone noticed Manny wants to talk to The Son by the end of the game and get out of it but The Son doesn't receive him and dies shortly after

I'll never understand this. He was a dirty cop, that much is given, but jumping from "shit, that mob guy is gonna rattle me out" to "I did for teh lulz XDD" is striaght up fucking retarded.

Oliver Anderson
Oliver Anderson

Was jacket chosen at random for 50b (and because the general tracked him down) or did he actually order those cookies?

Camden Barnes
Camden Barnes

Pretty sure he willingly joined 50b because he hates commies, he had a newsletter on his table at the intro to No Talk. Looks like he joined the group and got phone calls once they realized that he was a Ghost Wolf.

Jacob Walker
Jacob Walker

not knowing that the bum's stench is what made him puke

Jayden Wilson
Jayden Wilson

He did do shit for The Son, but that very well might have been because he started murdering for his own "pleasure" which caused the mob to gain dirt on him. Even if that weren't true, many of his methods were still attention whoring
overly and increasingly gruesome murder methods when he doesn't get the attention he deserves
leaving cryptic hints
the bad cop movie delusions
Being a mobster lapdog and being a sadistic attention whoring psychopath are not mutually exclusive.

Pic related.

Grayson Rogers
Grayson Rogers

MUH /pol/ BOOGEYMANG ;_; ;_; ;_: ;_;
/utg/ kike go back

Asher King
Asher King

what does undertale have to do with pol

John Rogers
John Rogers

Post apocalyptic Hotline Miami 3, radiation mutated people and shit after the nuke in HM2 I fuckin' bet.

Jason Williams
Jason Williams

You know

Justin Ward
Justin Ward

Apparently it's not gonna be top down like Hotline Miami. Stated in an interview.

Joseph Sullivan
Joseph Sullivan

Speaking of HM questions, why the fuck did 50 blessings send Richter to kill Jacket? He was doing exactly what they needed him to be doing.

Lucas Torres
Lucas Torres

I wish the game had just a bit more sadism in it.
Jacket clearly hates what he does and tries to be done as soon as possible.

Joshua White
Joshua White

Richter a shit.
Either because Jacket failed to kill Biker or just because "muh loose ends".

Nathaniel Watson
Nathaniel Watson

He looks kinda like my uncle. Do all schizos have a similar face for some reason?

Colton Phillips
Colton Phillips

Daily reminder that the Henchman just wanted to go home

Jacob Walker
Jacob Walker

Because he didn´t kill the women, which proved that he wasn´t 100% loyal.

Michael Bennett
Michael Bennett

Richter honestly should have put his mom in a nursing home. He didn't have to be what he is.
That's total bullshit. Why would they care about something like that? Biker was in the control room using the computer at Phone Hom, he could have set it up where Richter would get that call. He left him alive in there, remember? Jacket never took the second swing that he should have.

Owen Jenkins
Owen Jenkins

I just want to further add that Biker is a shit character and playing as him was a chore, and still is when people decide to make custom biker shit. Fuck biker. What an emo.

Zachary Stewart
Zachary Stewart

shitty indie pixelshit game whose entire point is stupid levels of violence and audio clipping bad music engine
censors violence
wew

sloer

Git gud.

Isaac Flores
Isaac Flores

Hotline Miami 2 was pretty meh.

Caleb Sanders
Caleb Sanders

putting someone in a nursing home
Assuming he is the only relative and cares for his mom, he probably has the knowledge that if you send someone to the wrong nursing home they will be treated like shit. So instead he has her stay home and cares for her himself. He simply cares too much, and that lead to where he ended up.

Bentley Brooks
Bentley Brooks

<oh shit I'm standing next to a window and paid the price. This is the game's fault

Noah Allen
Noah Allen

I love running around "floors" as big as a complete level in HM1 with a machine gun that holds 10 rounds max after I fire all 40 of the starting belt halfway through the first of six 1kmx1km "floors" in the level and then having to bait and knife 20 guys with guns around the same corner for five minutes each "floor" for the entire rest of the needlessly bloated level
The second game was fucking tedious. I honestly don't see how anyone could see those shitty soldier levels as fun.

Cooper Reyes
Cooper Reyes

Pretty sure he joined them up post SanFran getting nuked and losing Beard. He probably thought it was just one of those political fringe groups that let patriots band together and got into the whole killing phone calls deal later on. All the characters having military backgrounds is such a fucking asspull though. Would have been cool if Jacket and Beard had it cause it would also explain their backstory, but there's absolutely no reason all the other characters couldn't have been degenerates of their own kind.
they said no because they not considered their enemies to be human beans in the first place
Aside from the fact that niggers aren't even human on a species level, this is the only possible way to survive a war with minimal psychological repercussions, all propaganda requires the people joining its cause to dehumanize their opposition and reinforce the human nature of the cause they're fighting for (notice how it's "human decency" when leftists' causes are involved). Naturally, torturing is an absolutely savage thing and those soldiers should be discharged at best and thrown into a gutter at worst.

Kevin Hall
Kevin Hall

but there's absolutely no reason all the other characters couldn't have been degenerates of their own kind.
honestly, you're not even supposed to like the fans.

Juan King
Juan King

That's total bullshit. Why would they care about something like that?

Because she was the actual target of the mission? If you, as a professional hired killer, fail to kill the intended target of your mission, and actually go out of your way saving her life and sheltering her, what use do you still have for the organization you´re working for?

Lucas Price
Lucas Price

but there's absolutely no reason all the other characters couldn't have been degenerates of their own kind.
Also, there is Jake

Logan Walker
Logan Walker

Would anyone know how to mod the files to require ground kills for melee weapons? I'm thinking about creating a character for challenge purposes. Basically he would be a physically underpowered character and melee weapons would be no different than punches meaning he would HAVE to ground kill each enemy. This would be countered with movement speed higher than Brandon's and there would be no handicap with guns.
Good/bad idea? might even make a campaign centered around such a character.

Isaiah Powell
Isaiah Powell

Hate to double post but would there also be a way to make it so that the doors also knock the player down? I've got some real ideas

Joshua Sanchez
Joshua Sanchez

I honestly prefer thinking that Jacket was just a guy who needed cash and joined the group out of desperation, and that Beard was just an abstraction of the cashier stereotype. That was my genuine perception of the storyline throughout HM1, until HM2 came along and shat all over it.

Kevin Hill
Kevin Hill

but there's absolutely no reason all the other characters couldn't have been degenerates of their own kind.
I don't remember Manny having any military background. There's also Jake and Biker I think, but yes it was a stupid decision, The Fans would have worked better as a bunch of idiot teenagers that wanted to be cool and got killed for it.

Well, the original point of the first game was that stories doesn't matter because it a fucking videogame afterall

Ayden Bell
Ayden Bell

I think people are just butthurt they can't self insert as jacket anymore, unless they are also military. I never cared much about that kind of stuff.

Isaac King
Isaac King

You're all wrong. This is the best song. All others are pretenders to the throne.

Alexander Foster
Alexander Foster

How about: Hotline Miami, but as a FPS?

Angel Miller
Angel Miller

I really need to fix my computer so I can play some of the HM-esque games I've heard about. Supposedly Ruiner and Mr. Shifty are similar and pretty good.
I've put a lot of thought into how that could go and I'd love to see it. Would be really tough to do well, though.

Jordan Bennett
Jordan Bennett

I understand that but the whole lack of story and context in the first game provided a neat atmosphere, only for it to be retroactively ruined by the second game explaining everything.

Logan Roberts
Logan Roberts

Why did they have to fuck up Jackets face so badly in the Payday 2 DLC?

Angel Adams
Angel Adams

interdastign

Kevin Walker
Kevin Walker

other people found this good song, so now it's a bad song, you know?

Cameron Nelson
Cameron Nelson

no, you need full awareness around your avatar. first person shooters are inherently limited, it would be an awful game.

Brayden Jackson
Brayden Jackson

Why do you need full awareness around your avatar?

Brody Morris
Brody Morris

reaching this fucking hard
here's your (You) faggot
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