Steam refund abuse

FUCK YOU


When I buy clothes that don't fit right after they go through the wash or if I buy a new kitchen appliance that's absolute shit quality, does "too many refunds" constitute abuse? Fuck Steam for this shit. I've never even heard of such a policy anywhere.

Bottom line: If I buy a game and it has utter shit controls, cheap mechanics, or anything else that detracts from my consumer experience, I am refunding it.

The only reason why I buy games from Steam is because of their relatively new refund policy.
If Steam starts claiming "refund abuse" then I am definitely going back to pirating my games.

shit thread user

Nah, fuck you leatherman.

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You have to do that to 20 games in less than a month to get that message you nigger.
Just start pirating or fuck off.

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retard

Also if you want to contribute to a half-decent company that still makes games, buy from GOG.

L M A O

If a store thought you were abusing refunds, like buying clothes for the weekend and returning them on monday every week, they'd just ban you from the store completely. This is a lighter reaction than most.

I always find it funny when someone tries to rile people up against someone or something but ends up outing themselves as an idiot.

They will never claim "refund abuse" because it is anti-consumer and against the law in several countries.

No, you're not getting sympathy for that one.

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OP is a Double nigger

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You the same autist who made threads about refunding a game if a single minor thing is wrong with it?

Actually, that is me. I am the guy who makes the threads about how I can't find any games that are better than Hollow Knight, Ori, Axiom Verge, etc. Finally found some great games, though, like Cuphead and A Hat In Time which I am currently playing.

No. I don't care how much paperwork it causes your underpaid staff, Valve, don't give me that bullshit.

I may as well also add that I have identified my senses as "heightened" in terms of being able to detect suckage in games that otherwise go unnoticed by your common pleb.

I am able to detect even the slightest shittiness in play control, texture resolution, and shoddy mechanics that are a detriment to my gameplay experience.

You all may want to call me a faggot and a double nigger and whatnotall. That is fine. The truth is that gaming needs people like me to hold a balance. Otherwise, games would be even shitter than they are now and all you normalfag pleb-tier faggots would be a-okay with it because you simply don't give a fuck whether or not something is actually good.

You literal nigger fucking pirate games or deal with the consequences of your actions.
Don't fucking make up some convoluted bullshit about how you have such heightened taste and yet you need to constantly have a safety net for your poor purchasing decisions

So I should go into stores and steal food and clothes because I don't want to accept the risk of it tasting bad or not fitting right?

Anons, OP isn't a nigger

he's a kike

I'M SORRY FAGGOT, BUT MAYBE YOU SHOULD COOK YOUR OWN FUCKING FOOD INSTEAD OF TAKING IT OFF THE SHELF TAKING A BITE AND PUTTING IT BACK.
GOD KNOWS STEAM DOESN'T NEED THE MILLIONS OF YOU RETARDS DOING THIS SHIT.

So then I should also just make and play my owns games instead of buying them from others?

Most stores would stop refunding your shit if you did it over and over.

Quit acting retarded.

NO RETARD
I'M SAYING PIRATE GAMES INSTEAD OF USING VALVE'S RESOURCES INSTEAD OF PRETENDING LIKE YOU HAVE SOME MORAL HIGH GROUND.

I am going to make my own:

Name one. Just one.

Make your own DNA, you stole it from your parents.

Walmart
Target
HEB
KMart
Tesco
Cosco
Sam's Club
Best Buy
Gamestop
Office Max
Anna's Linens

No I didn't. It was inherited. At the very least, they passed it on to me.

Make your own air because you're stealing mine.

So you're saying Bethesda was right in saying nuPrey didn't need a demo on PC because of the steam refund?

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My Aunt got banned from Kohl's for abusing their return policy to get expensive fancy looking clothes to impress her bitchy friends.

OP, I work at Valve. We did not know you were such an enlightened individual, if we did trust me you never would have seen that message.

I'm going to enclose a code you can use in your next interaction with customer service that will take care of this problem.

They do, I've worked at nearly all of them.

Don't get me wrong. Refund abuse is a real thing, an especial with prom dresses that are returned after the prom, hence why retailers have very strict policies on such items.

Steam also has a means to eliminate abuse and it's the "two-hour play time" and "two-weeks since purchase" policy. If they want to expand their definition of abuse then they need to tighten these guidelines and make it one hour/one week instead of making arbitrary decisions on a per-case basis.

You do not need to try out 20 games a month.
You are wasting their resources with your bullshit and they have decided you are potentially not worth the bullshit to deal with.

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Okay but why buy and return the game when there's a much simpler option that has less legwork involved if you don't like it?

Some stuff like air mattresses and breast pumps have to be returned unopened. We accept food returns because of our Freshness Guaranteeā„¢ (really just to get people shopping there daily, so we can sell actual, more expensive shit)

Technically you need a receipt for a refund, but because of Walmart's current push for customer service (eg, please buy from us and not Amazon), you WILL get a refund or exchange if you push hard enough

What about returns on rifles bought through the greenlight department? Those still exist right? There is no Walmart in my area, just a Target

Ok, seriously now, why not just pirate shit?

All sales on firearms are final, and stuff like knives needs a driver's license for 16+.
We don't sell rifles at our store, too small and out of the way.

Has Sporting Goods changed their policy about bagging ammo and not even letting you touch it until you leave the store, then telling you no refunds ever when you get to your truck and find the knobgobbler gave you a box of .270 when you asked for .30-06'?

Ammo (I assume) is sold perhaps twice a week at our store, based on how often they page for an unlock. My understanding of the process is to take their contact info, note it down, and give them the ammo to take to the front. I don't have to escort them or do that sort of thing, to my knowledge.

I am completely fine with rejecting returns so long as there is an unambiguous policy that doesn't allow the retailer to reject refunds arbitrarily on a per-case basis. If Steam would discontinue their refund policy or adhere strictly to their two-hour/two-weeks policy then I would have no complaints. However, they don't do that, instead reserving the right to claim refund abuse at their discretion which I do not believe is right.

Harbor Freight Tools and any front for Golub Corp. (Price Chopper and Market 32)

Just adding to the list.

dubs confirm

Valve isn't a rental service you fucking cheap faggot.

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Fuck off gabe you fat jew

he doesn't know

Everyone has a policy like that really. It just requires whatever they consider "extreme" abuse.

Imagine if you bought new clothes every week, returned them and bought a new set at the end of the week (or however long the return period is). Same for appliances or anything else. If they think you are trying to abuse the system they will either prevent you from returning the items, or ban you from shopping there at all.

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I thought the same but apparently Amazon has shut down accounts due to 'refund abuse'. I'm somewhat surprised because I figured some litigious American would launch a petty lawsuit.

Anyone jewish enough to try something like that would also know that they would be up against a multimillion dollar corporation that could lawyer up so hard their head would spin.

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Got what you deserved, nigger.

I've never been denied a refund. If you came into my store and asked for a refund after every purchase I'd tell you fuck off as well.

OP is a fag and a (((KIKE))). You don't need any refund you need to get in a fucking oven.

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Pirate first, then buy, stupid.

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you really should consider learning how torrents work

jesus christ nigger how much of a good goy are you?

Put that in the reason for the refund and you'll be fine then.

Costco does this.

Joke of the month.

Literally every store I've ever worked at has a policy for this, one store even had a file for frequent abusers who'd tried to essentially treat the place as their personal wardrobe, wearing clothes once then taking them back again and again and again.

Does that work, why or why not?

This is why you pirate everything first and if you really like it, support the developer by buying it. All games should have demos but they dont and if they do they arent honest so pirate you silly nigger

Holy shit, shut the fuck up, nobody cares about you or your shitty opinions.

t. fatso

Refunds get the attention of their publishers. Valve doesn't give their cut back on a refunded game.

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Go steal some more shit, nigger faggots.

Pirates win again.

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Guaranteed that nearly every person making shitposts like is a regular Steam user and just trying to act cool. Fucking dumb kids.

Nah dude, they are play Overwatch and posting "anime" shit on discord. Get with the times old man.

Why don't you just pirate? You sound like those american stereotypes that feel entitled to the world and demand they be treated like kings in a mcdonalds.

I personally think this website is amazing, reminds me of the good old days of 2015 reddit. Amazing.

I guess you should stop buying complete fucking garbage without doing your research then

Hush my little fatso, maybe you can swipe some shekels another time

This policy wont fly in Australia. Consumer law gives protection so that companies are forced to give refunds, regardless of what the company says. However, as other anons have pointed out, the Steam could simply bar you from their service. ie. refuse to sell you games. No one says they have to sell you anything in the first place.

Also, why the fuck aren't you pirating you faggot?

NIGGER

I swear if this turns out to be Mark again

Scab gets called out for his scuzzy scab behavior


As if you ever stopped.

How else are we supposed to try out games? Demos don't exist anymore, so it's either that or pirating them.

I wonder how this will sit with UK Refund law.

Does sharia allows it?

You're a dumbass and you shouldn't be buying and refunding games so quickly in the first place, do your fucking research and pirate if you're so fucking nitpicky and unsure.

Why the hell would you need to give them contact info for buying ammo? That is fucked up.

That is why I never buy clothing on Amazon. I've heard of accounts being closed over returning shoes twice for being a bad fit.

ā€¦huh.

Anyone tried this?

Why should they care, user? You're wasting their time and resources and after all, they're a store front, not your fucking pal.
If you pirated shit like someone who isn't a trogolodyte it wouldn't be an issue.
I got a warning from awhile ago too and know what I did? I learned to fucking try things out or read into them before I just drop money.
You're just fucking lazy.

Maybe.

It saves the time spent on offline mode and then adds it when you go online.
It'll only work for something that doesn't use Steamworks at all.

As someone actually studying how to operate a warehouse and have done work in one, there's a lot of pain to go through with returned items which fine if we actually made the mistake ourselves, but if you're returning shoes just because you can't learn your own damn size then we have every god damn right to bar you from buying from us, it's pointless and fucking stupid for us to have to deal with something as small and petty as that over a mistake that you made.

But clothing and shoes vary between brands in terms of how well they will fit. I've tried on multiple shoes in size 11 1/2, and some fit perfectly, some are too big, and some are too small. That applies even more so with clothing. With sizes for clothing being so broad, a medium means something different in every brand. It just seems like something that you'd figure into the cost of business and your prices when selling something like this.

I never had to try a game to know it was shit. I remember that i could tell that destiny was garbage back when they releasd the early artwork. Maybe you should grow some taste and some brain instead of hyping out a game because of the ads, child.

It won't mean shit, but nobody will do anything, Valve will never be held accountable, same deal with Facebook blatantly profiting from violating the data protection act. They help out the government with raiding shitposters and ramming 15 years up their asses, so the government lets them get away with so many crimes that a normal man would do years for.

The UK and EU laws regarding this are 14 days for ANY REASON, no matter how long you've played, even if it's 13 days, 23 hours and 59 minutes. If you've had it less than 14 days then you're fully entitled to a full refund for any reason. Including beating the whole thing and because you think a jew sniffed at it.

So if you disconnect the computer from the net physicaly and don't connect it until steam has been purged? Maybe throw in a reformat for good measure.
Still less bother with a simple DL. Provided there is onefor the game in question.

Jesus christ this place turned into reddit pretty much

Buy locally if you're so worried about shit like that. Support your local businesses instead of a corporate giant that wants to consume everything as much as all the others do.

That is exactly what I do. I've cancelled the auto-renewal on my Prime account, and I've been trying to buy shit elsewhere. Fuck Bezos. Doesn't change the fact that it is an absurd policy when selling things like clothing.

A friend of mine sells stuff on Amazon as a side job, and he stopped selling clothing because customers just select different reasons for the return instead of saying it doesn't fit. So they'll select things like "Product damaged or defective" or "Wrong item." That counts against his account, because Amazon thinks he keeps fucking up, instead of clothing just not fitting.

I think Amazon no longer allows most individual sellers to sell items in that department anymore anyway, though.

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In most countries they cant deny you a refund. The normal practice would be to block you from purchasing any more games. Since its entirely their decision to sell you something.

In the UK you could just call your credit card company. Say you were mis sold the game because its not what was advertised and so you uninstalled it. They will reverse the payment.

Why don't you guys make a new account, buy a game, and then sell the account as a game? I do that with uplay.

I always perceived account selling far more sketchier than selling physical copies.

Help me out here faggots, witcher 3 is on sale at gog and truth be told it's the only game n the last 5 years where I've put more than 25 hours in and I think they deserve it.
But after seeing some people on the team quit I don't know if I should do it.
Sage for offtopic.

I don't understand, why use refunds to try out games when piracy exists?
Even if you're a gigantinc shlong-swallowing moralfaglord, refunds still cost time and resources to process and you're using official resources whereas piracy is a complete non-factor.

Here's a trick OP. If you're really that hellbent on spending your money on vidya, on steam no less, then you should always pirate it first. Just play the damn game to completion and if you liked it enough then buy it. Steam might be a convenient place to buy games, but they also take a cut, so keep that in mind when buying games from places you don't support.

I feel like this should be bloody common sense, but apparently faggots like OP manage to fuck up.

Well, steam and uplay should allow you in the first place to trade games.

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I find it funny you post that pic as well, retards are really horrible with their money and if Steam didn't fleece them then another company would.

How many games did you refund?

Wait, I thought it was 3 hours!

Who's this cream magister?

Account selling or in-game assets tends to be closely tied to stolen accounts, hacking, or fraudulent acquisition (e.g a micropay currency is tradeable between players in-game and a common scam is to buy a certain amount, sell it, and then charge back).

The truth with games on Steam, is that they are really infinite in supply (bandwidth permitting) in the eyes of Steam, Uplay, and digital distributors despite how much DRM tries to pretend its not. So it's not economical to allow users to trade already redeemed games there i.e even if you sell a used physical game, they're not exactly going to upload another 20-70 GB to another user in the process as they would in the hypothetical digital distribution trade.

I FUCKING TOLD THOSE CRUSTY OLD FUCKS THAT NOT UPGRADING THE LEVEL 3 INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD FUCK THEM IN THE ASS! FEELS REAL FUCKING SMUG TO SEE IT ALL FALL APART! PERHAPS THEY SHOULD JUST UP THE CLOCKSPEED OF THEIR SERIAL PORTS :^)

It's retarded that they don't allow at least trading. They don't lose anything. One game goes from one account into another.

So if you pay only to rent the game and you don't own it since you can't sell it, wouldn't a better option be to pay a monthly fee and play whatever game you want? Origin access does that. Steam should launch a service like that too. A netflix for videogames.

The problem is that a game has to be run on your computer. Music and movies can be streamed to you. If you try to stream a game from a service to the player, you get lag issues that killed the service that did exactly this ~10 years ago and its name eludes me at the moment.

There should be a rule against threads that don't even mention a video game.

Steam is one of those things we can shit on for obvious reasons. Creating parity here is a fool's errand.

They are just going to bloat games even further somehow as a piracy deterrent for it to be a problem again.

Yes. Why pay for something when you can take it for free?

It actually isn't though, only if you're live in the US and have no consumer protection.

Gamefly?

I looked it up and the name was OnLive.

I can't wait for this video game fad to die out and the normalfags find a new hoola hoop for them to ruin.

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>not gametap
Gametap was actually stable until silicon valley (((CEOs)) bought them out
That service showed that streaming vidya worked at one time. I wonder what changed.

I never used cloud gaming services. It would still piss me off if it really did catch on since there'd be games designed around higher latency or the games designed for no latency would phase out.

Especially that was around the time I really liked frame-perfect timing games like Devil May Cry.

Gametap just dealt with old roms and PC only games so input lag wasn't a big issue, doubly so since that was made during a time when the internet still scared the normalfags so things like DDoS and stressed servers were not really an issue. Besides, people had consoles with their PC because consoles were for video fucking games while the PC had graphics and games that couldn't work with a controller and were too graphically/CPU intensive for consoles.
I miss that time, what happened to the average person who played video games as a hobby? Min max faggtory combined with how kikes and commies shoehorn their garbage everywhere destroyed my favorite hobby.

So offer then 1$ fee to steam each time you trade a game to pay for the download.

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c-c-c-console cuck!!

why do you hate yourself user?

The nerve of these people.

are you fucking retarded?
do you actually buy games without even knowing what you are buying?
steam responded pretty well you fucking idiot

Oh, gawd! I bet you're one of those aspie retarded Rick & Morty fans, too.

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Further proof that the human IQ is dropping every passing minute. Thank you Gen Z!

I still have a bias with regards to high latency playable games and low latency only games. With regards to DMC3, the PS2 emulator lag was enough to be a major factor in deciding between it and the PC port; I'd probably dislike the 50 or so added ms from connecting to a nearest data center.

Even outside of DMC, I think first person shooters ultimately had that situation where (near-) hitscan won the popularity contest over traveling projectiles (i.e you'd have to shoot with both the latency and travel time in mind). Even then the most popular / most often mentioned afps is Quake 3, and 2 of the 3 (or 4) mainly used weapons to deal damage with are hitscan.

So what you are saying is that online games killed hitscan.
I completely agree with you but fighting that fight is like trying to reintroduce 60fps as the industry standard again. It's such an uphill battle it might as well be a big beautiful wall.

I meant forced hitscan on us.

>Games Industry somehow convinced general public that 30fps is enough or even better than 60fps
If I weren't so used to this fact, I'd be amazed they pulled it off.

What the fuck is up with the recent influx of 4cucks?

Or it could have to do with railgun, lightning gun and shotgun all being coded as hitscan on top of dealing absolute shit ton of damage. Excluding plasmagun, all projectile weapons have same damage as railgun *if you make a direct hit* and it travels at a painfully slow speed - in case of rocket and grenade launcher you could almost outrun it on foot. There's no reason to choose any of them over railgun except for showing off or making spray&pray blind attacks.

It's the weekend and the US elections were 8ch's hackers on steroids moment so we already have an influx of edgy millennial faggots and upset commies. It's not really hard to see why the quality has dropped so sharply in the last year or two.
You can't even make a Zimmerman or Dorner thread on Holla Forums without being drowned in nigger or spic d&c that works. This is a dark time for this site.

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But 30 fps IS enough. Having more fps is nice, but 30 (with no dips) is enough for comfortable casual gaming.

Actually let me elaborate a bit further by making an example: shock rifle in Unreal Tournament. It has both hitscan attack and projectile attack. But because its hitscan attack is weak, nobody uses it. Instead, everyone uses absurdly powerful projectile attack that could almost match the mini-nuke missile in its destruction capacity.

If you play console shooters, sure. Any hardcore video game will make 60 fps monitor look inadequate, making you spend however much cash 144hz monitor in your local computer shop costs.

It wasn't the projectile that did that much damage, it was the combo. Of which you need the hitscan. The projectile's bigger benefit was faster firing than the hitscan from what I remember.

I mean even harder in the last few days.

hell, 15fps is enough if you just want to beat the game. Why bother putting devs to that standard if they will keep bending at the knee as soon as the backend of the engine starts stuttering. Fuck optimization, just downgrade everything and kneecap the performance!

It's hardly important since it's the projectile that does the damage, not the beam. In fact, the weapon wouldn't have been different if the beam did no damage whatsoever and only served to ignite the projectile - as the shock turret on UT2004 assault vehicle does. And of course because of its power, it is the single most used weapon in the game, except for long range engagements where sniper rifle would dominate. Nobody uses all those other gimmick guns except when no shock rifle is available.

Yeah, this is like when anons complain about game server admins kicking them for no reason and then it turns out it was because they were acting like faggots.

Well, yeah. As I said, 30 is enough for casual gaming.


30 fps is above the point where your brain starts being able to perceive a series of still images as motion. 24 fps is on the edge and requires motion blur. 15 fps is below that point. Hence, yet again, objectively speaking, 30 fps is enough for casual gaming.

Torposting should be disabled holyfuck.

Why do nice anonymizing features have to be abused for faggotry?

Pirate first, bro.

Always pirate first. Even if you know it's good, pirate first. Even if it's your game, pirate first.

Hell, even if it's free to play, pirate first.

Why keep buying appliances at that store if the appliances are shit quality? Why keep buying games from Steam if the games are shit quality?


This.
When they send you this message they are encouraging you to pirate games. It's a huge nudge actually. Read between the lines.

Why is it only used for faggotry? I have never seen a decent tor poster.

ALL TOR POSTERS ARE PEDOS
BAN TORPOSTING NOW

I'm not talking about CP linkers.

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It can't be reintroduced if it was never the standard.

I want my fucking $100 right now where is the fucking $100

I'd be offended, but most of my disposable income lately goes towards games I never play or prostitutes. In reverse order.

I am not good with money, no.

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This is why I think there will never be some kind of crash that brings back good games and business practices until the disposable income of western civilization runs out, and even if that were to happen Korean grinder MMOs, and Chinese micropay shit would be the fad everyone copies.

Yuzuriha from Under Night In-Birth.

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Did you know that you can post reviews on Steam? Why don't you write a honest, in-depth reviews as to why the games sucked? The game developers will appreciate your feedback and make better games in the future, and potential customers can make informed choices on whether or not to buy the games.

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To be fair to OP, he's a victim of journos who tell him to buy shitty games, and the fact Steam reviews are bullshit. Valve knows most of their customers are going to buy games they'll barely play and never complain about it, let alone ask for a refund. They have no incentive to tell people to not buy mediocre or bad games. Their only incentive is to stop you from buying games so bad that you instantly want a refund.

It lets them not worry about bot reviews, bullshit votes, and fudging numbers to make games look better. There's a good reason why they just show you if feedback has been negative or positive and they're not giving you hard data. It gives them a lot of room to bullshit you and make games look better than they are.

Steam is a store, it's their job to sell you games. They won't do that by being honest. And lets be real, how many of you all fell for the Steam Sale meme and bought a ton of shitty games? I know I sure did, I have more games on my Steam with less than 10 hours than I do that have more than 10 hours. I haven't bought games on Steam in a while and I started going to smaller gaming sites. And I've been a lot happier since then.

Valve doesn't care, they want sales. Even with refunds, the amount of people who actually get them are probably extremely small. Everything about Steam as a platform says "fuck you, buy this game, we'll refund you only if you're really pissed off about it. We know 99% of you will buy shitty games and not complain or ask for refunds"

oh shit dude heightened senses like spiderman but for vydia? do you also have an augmented male genitalia?

Are you for fucking real? Are you an undercover FTC shill?
Please stop posting.

Of his own crippling retardation. Even when I was 10 I would joke with other kids about how IGN was bought off with pallets full of money. If you trust gaming "journalism" you are either completely clueless or deserve what you get.

Have you niggers really not seen OP around here before? He's already made like three threads that can be summed up as "I'm extremely autistic and nitpicky and only about five indie games from 2017 are playable in any capacity".

It's not just the journos though. Steam as a platform wants to peddle you shit non-stop. I'm pretty sure Valve will take developer's money and put them in the "featured" carousel unless they are absolute shit.

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I'm not saying you should buy those, but it's evidence Steam just wants to sell you shit. The fact you know those games suck and aren't worth buying, yet Valve feels compelled to make them the first thing you see when entering the store speaks volumes about how Valve just wants your money.

People know journos are shit, but they don't realize Steam's desire to sell you bullshit games while pretending to have community reviews and information.

Really? You think that "gamers" in general believe that Valve is some kind of quality curator who only recommends good games? Perhaps diehard Valvefags that love Gabe Jewell's dick, but I doubt it with most users. Most of them just really have awful taste.

Nice try, Schlomo.

The customer is always WRONG, fuck you and suck a dick OP.

The west seriously needs to fuck the "customer is always right" stance and go with the superior east-asian stance of "The customer is a guest in my store, if he doesn't like my products, policies or practices, then he can get the fuck out."

you're only buying that shit so weebs & furfags your erp with will complement your "patrician taste". if you retards absolutely feel the need to purchase at least pirate first to see if its worth the cash.

I do this, and now people from Holla Forums compliment me on my taste when I play games with them which is almost never, because I have taste.

I can only imagine how they would react when seeing the impulse items in front of a cashier at the grocery store.

Stop wasting everyone's time user, there are plenty of other schmucks that buy the game and report if there are any issues with it. If you feel like you are getting jibbed by the system why don't you do yourself a favor a pirate the games instead of "renting" them from steam.

ITT industry killers (pirates) complain about legit customers having bad experiences.

I agree OP, steam's refund policy is shit.

IF PIRATING KILLS AN IP THEN WHY THE FUCK IS MST3K BEING REBOOTED WITH A SJW CUNT?!
KEEP CIRCULATING THOSE TAPES, THEY SAID.
JOEL WON'T SOAPBOX, THEY SAID.

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I just vent about the reboot when I can because that shit really steamed my hams the more I heard about it until it reached a fever pitch and we got a pooloo as a new main character.

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In Bulgaria supermarkets refund items if you have a receipt and ONLY if unopened. Refunding clothes you just bought from a store is not a thing unless it's an online purchase. Small shops might let you or not let you refund. Electronic shops have warantes but only under the conditions of the warante.

Even a corrupt country like mine has rules that it follows. If you want to buy games from Steam but aren't sure, pirate you fucking moron.

What are you, some kinda buyfag?

I'm saying they got baited by the tor poster

probably because the steam method adds work to the company for no profit and actually has a tangible effect unlike piracy

Listen motherfucker, if the size 15W boot stops being a size 15W boot because they moved the factory to chingchongland and the tolerances on the machines quadrupled you better believe I'm returning that shit.

If you want to complain about how bad the warehouse has it then complain about your shitty practices that all boil down to hiring lowest common denominator pacos, achmeds, and jamals coupled with the standard absolutely horrible corporate managerial practices.

My favorite part is how they actually can't.

Because once someone has downloaded a digital copy of a game, it is impossible to cram it back into the packaging right to resell it.

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>implying anyone on Holla Forums even knows or has watched Charmed

thats a good thing, i dont want it to become popular

I doubt it will considering it's retarded as fuck ending with the babby.

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I wonder how that show holds up. From what I remember it was girly as fuck but so is Totally Spies.

OP here. Haven't read through the thread yet, but though I'd post my purchase history. The ones highlighted yellow are the ones I am waiting on a refund for now. Here's why I am wanting them refunded:

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Yea you really deserve all the shit you get

Your taste is fucking terrible.

WHY

You really are autistic

I don't get it. What about it?

Here's that list filtered down to my refund history. Looks like I am under 20 a month, so I should be good in getting these other 7 games refunded

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Don't understandā€¦ my taste is bad because I bought them in the first place or bad because I refunded games you think are good?

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I never bought Tetris. What are you even talking about?

This is the reason why I refunded Darksiders II and Night in the Woods. I got Darksiders back in 2015 when GamerGate was at full peak and Tim Schafer was going full retard with his anti-GG puppet show. When I found out it was his studio that developed Darksiders, I refunded it. I refunded Night in the Woods after suspicious game content and political messages prompted me to research the developers where I discovered they were a couple token SJWs.

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I also refunded Rayman Origins because it's by Unisoft, an SJW studio anymore.

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Jesus Christ, OP.


He's bought and refunded so many games at this point he's losing track of them.

Oh you're right, my filter excluded that. I didn't buy it, though, it came as a bundle. Didn't even play it.

I didn't like it. Here's my refund response:

What the fuck is all this shit.

Regret.

Here's my refund response for Night in the Woods

Do you even do ANY,
ANY
god damned research before you buy the fucking game?

That was not a girly show. That was a well disguised 'bate fuel show. That and Winx Club.

The game starts off tedious but picks up once you get equipment. How much did you play?

I read reviews and only purchase games that are overwhelmingly positive or, at the very least, very positive. However, as I mentioned previously in this thread, I have a heightened sense of suck detection that most common plebs are impervious to, so I am more likely to discover issues that will adversely affect my consumer experience.

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I refunded it immediately after realizing I couldn't play with Xbox controller

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See
I told you faggots he was a nigger
Abusing the system.

Why do you think Xena was popular for girls and their fathers? My media server is getting a bit stale and needs some new blood. I might download Xena as well to see how it holds up.
I remember an episode of Charmed that was more or less the bathing suit episode. The creators know what they are doing and as an adult I thank them for the cheesecake.

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Who wants to play a platformer with a mouse and keyboard? Maybe if this were Commander Keen from the 90's then fine, but not in the current_year where we have these things called gamepads.

why?

They had gamepads in the 90s you idiot.

I agree, this is some b8 or the normalfag problem really have gotten bad.

Terraria doesn't work too well with a controller. You can't move with your menus up like you can on PC, and you can't shoot as accurately.
That said, Steam supports X1 and PS4 pads with their Steam Controller configurations, and surely someone has made a scheme for Terraria.

Kill yourself you fucking subshit.

Nah, you just cause more devs to fuck over their legitimate customers by making them include shit like lockboxes and microtransactions so that they can compensate for their losses. This isn't anything like piracy as they lose their money from it.

Just pirate or make your own games.

Yep, OP is baiting for (you)s.

Xena and Gabrielle didn't really do it for me. Callisto on the other hand.

Steam has this bullshit integrated into it that if you havent been online in like a month then it locks you out of your game, even in offline. I learned this when I took my laptop on a roadtrip once and tried playing gmod but since there was not internet where we were I was locked out.
All the reddit retards that say "DERS A OFFLINE MODE" have never actually been offline long enough to trigger it.
That was my steampill. I learned at that point that steam is a giant fucking jewsack and to just pirate literally everything at that point. Fuck steam, and fuck normalfaggots for preaching it as the savior of pc gaming.

Holy shit.

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This isn't fucking super meat boy.

10/10 tastes.

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Hot evil women, you say?

Faggot of the year award goes to this guy. Holy shit, did this make me laugh.

>mfw 4.1 implied she lost her mind and regressed to a child

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What the fuck is that shitty imitation of this one, shame on you user

I couldn't find the pic, so I made my own. Thank you for posting it though.

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are you that fucking autistic that made a thread bitching about that GOTY?
sweet jesus, i hope steam cancels all your future refunds, maybe that will teach you to pirate first, faggot

I don't know what GOTY means in this context, but I did make a thread about it several weeks back. Shit game overall. Poor play control, shit textures/models

Oh man, I remember you.

This keeps getting better

Wut dis OWO

wait are you that user who refunded it because it gave you a fucking headache?
why would you even buy that

git gud

OP here. If anyone's interested, here's the current exchange between me and Steam support over the refunding of these seven games.

That was one of the main reasons. Something about it causes a severe strain on my eyes. I am not the only one, though. Found someone else who had the same experience. Made the game unplayable for me

My response

Fuck off back to wherever you came from.

Costco has a similar bro-tier refund policy. But lately they monitor your account to see if, for example, you buy laptops and habitually return them after a year, one after another, since it's a PIECE OF SHIT move.
I hope you get VAC banned for playing too good, faggot. People like you make shit worse for everyone.

Jesus fuck, do you lack impulse control? Do you often find yourself regretting your actions in life? Why the fuck are you buying so many games when you're bound to refund most of them? Why the fuck can't you do some fucking research on games to determine whether you will like them or not before squandering your cash or just pirate them like a decent human fucking being?

Ask anyone who's ever stood behind the counter, you are the kind of person who is a massive pain in the ass.


you are a fucking retard

Holy fuck where do you live where you consider that shit good?

(I mean, I'm not a fan, but if you bought that game, you should know EXACTLY what the fuck you're spending your money on)
Either you have the worst taste in video games imaginable, or you're one SERIOUS piece of shit. Please pirate your games for now on. Stay off the Steam forums, and stay off Holla Forums as well. No one wants to put up with your horseshit.

I don't think I can return retail PC games at any big-box store after activating it, so yeah, Steam currently has the best refund policy in that product category. Much like how Costco has the best refund policy in the "groceries/appliance/wallmart-shit" category.

Kek. Ignorance is bliss as usual

You have been refunding every third you have been buying. No shit that they would get tired of you constantly doing it. I would understand your concern if they were to refuse a refund after your third or fourth refund but not after over twenty refunds.

So in other words, it is not even them refusing you, it is just you fucking up and then getting upset they are notifying you of the possibility of a refusal if you keep refunding shit every 20 seconds.

Yeah, OP is literally the worst. Move on folks, nothing to see here.
I never thought I'd see the day I'm rushing to the defense of Gabe the Jewlord, but yet here is OP, somehow out-jewing him.

You sound like a dodgy scamming cunt.

If you want to buy a game do your research for fuck sake! you have to know what product you getting before you whimper for sympathy like a wounded animal

here's a share board, use it.

and a new copypasta is born!

Holy FUCK you have objectively shit taste, user.


Then why didn't you detect the suck
BEFORE BUYING THE MOTHERFUCKING GAME YOU NIGGER

I understand Valve is the poster child of kikery, but why are you buying such large amounts of shit games? Rabi-Ribi? What the fuck is that? Are you a martyr? Spending money on loads of garbage games just to expose Valve's kikery? Something everyone was already aware of anyway? Or are you legitimately butthurt that they stopped taking refunds from you after they noticed this neurotic habit of yours to buy and then refund tons of crappy games? Either way you're an idiot.

Have you seen the games he's refunded?
Half of them are actually good. He just has totally trash-tier taste.

Wouldn't let me remap gamepad controls to suit my own preferences.


Wasn't fun.


I actually bought this on Wii U years ago and love it. Bought it on Steam to play through the DLC, but the play control of the two additional knights sucks so bad.


I actually tried refunding it after I realized I got duped bad. See pic related

My senses are only effective when I am able to actually engage with the game. How can you know how food tastes unless you actually consume it? How can you look at a pair of pants and know they'll fit after you wash them unless you actually try them on after the fact?

How could you not possibly know how senses work?

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You aren't from around here. Go back. Take OP with you.

It sucks. Controls blow anal ass and there's way too much chatty dialog.

What the fuck is Rabi-Ribi. Without looking it up I'm going to guess it's some platformer with pixelshit graphics but a "really deep story." Right?

I don't like playing games using someone else's predetermined idea of how my controls should be mapped. Being a software engineer myself, I know how easy it is to map inputs to keys or buttons. It's literally requires entry-level skill. I refund any game that doesn't allow me to remap my controls.

It's an anime game.

I bought Rabi-Ribi because I thought it would be a good waifu game, but couldn't handle the shit gameplay,

Ok next question. What the fuck is cat Quest?

refunding games over the slightest thing because you're that pricklish over possibly having made a bad purchase without giving the game the time of day is just autism

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I may as well also add that I have identified my senses as "heightened" in terms of being able to detect suckage in threads that otherwise go unnoticed by your common porn spammer.

I am able to detect even the slightest shittiness in bait tactics, trolling attempts, and pretenses that you were only trying to be retarded that are a detriment to my shitposting experience.

You all may want to call me a faggot and a double nigger and whatnotall. That is fine. The truth is that shitposting needs people like me to hold a balance. Otherwise, imageboards would be even shitter than they are now and all you normalfag lolcow-tier faggots would be a-okay with it because you simply don't give a fuck

I may as well also add that I have identified my senses as "in charge" in terms of being able to detect big guys in planes that otherwise go unnoticed by your common hired gun.

I am able to detect even the slightest master plan in unwanted friends, masks, and flight plans that are a detriment to my flying experience.

You all may want to call me a small guy and a hothead and whatnotall. That is fine. The truth is that this plane needs people like me to hold a balance. Otherwise, planes would be even more extremely painful than they are now and all you hired pleb-tier hotheads would be a-okay with it because you simply don't give a fuck whether or not something is actually the next step of his master plan for you.

kys

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I may as well also add that I have identified my senses as "heightened" in terms of being able to detect shitposts in threads that otherwise go unnoticed by your common hotpocketeer.

I am able to detect even the slightest shittiness in punctuation, breaking of rules, and reddit spcaing that are a detriment to my ideal board.

You all may want to call me a hotpocketeer and a powertripping jew and HE DOES IT FOR FREE. That is fine. The truth is that Holla Forums needs people like me to hold a balance. Otherwise, Holla Forums would be even shitter than it is now and all you shitposting reddit-tier goons would be a-okay with it because you simply don't give a fuck about serious discussion.

A good amount of those games are on GoG. You're a fucking moron for even considering buying them on Steam.

We know you're the OP you fucking dunce. Unlike cuckchan, we have IDs here.

you deserve every shit thing that happens to you

t. faggot who pays real life money for a series of 1's and 0's

Ha! Hey, Holla Forums, I got all seven games refunded. You mad?

No one here was mad at you, we all just thought you were a stupid Jew.

And he is.