Sonic Thread

Meant to say "without." My bad.

They made Lost World in 2013. Besides we know how this will turn out

Like pottery

Webm because OP is a faggot.
This level looks so fucking boring.
Where are the hazards? Where are the enemies? Why does the music sound like sonic 4 shit I thought they stopped hiring dimps? Why are all the levels fucking empty with only 2 months till release, show these levels actually have shit in them.
Like it's the gimmicks from Casino Night in sonic 2 forgetting the rest of the level and filling the rest with just the sonic game gear bonus stages.

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It's the speed boosters. They're not too offensive here, but it's frustrating that they even bothered with them after Sonic 4 got shit for their overuse. Makes me wonder if Dimps is doing the level design again.

Casino Night only had like one or two enemies, though, and I'm pretty sure the only other hazards were moving platforms that could crush you.

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Because they started making Forces way before Mania was a thing.

I'm done with Mania, it was too short. What else is there? Any good romhacks?

DRM on the DRM machine means you can keep your PC clean. Autism about Denuvo and Windows 10 is the best reason to have a PS4, and that's kinda sad on both PC and PS4

Do we honestly need another Sonic game?

There's also Sonic Time Twisted and maybe Before/After the Sequel, but those are all standalone games.

It looks like dogshit, a total step back from Generations both visually and gameplay-wise.

But, that doesn't negate the fact that Classic Sonic is yet again a player/important character in another Modern Sonic game. SEGA is showing that they have no faith in Modern Sonic whatsoever. That fact they brought back Classic Sonic shows in their eyes, Modern Sonic can't stand on his own two feet.

We need the version of mania that would have existed if Iizuka wasn't allowed to have say in the development.

Play Pana Der Hejhog on Megadrive hardware and see how good the hardware was for the time.

I like this music, it kinda sounds like the genesis demakes from Sonic After the Sequel.

Well that's what happens when you have such a divided fanbase. You'll have people on one hand wanting the classic sonic gameplay with people who want modern on the other. If Mania was a thing alot sooner before development even started on Forces Classic would most likely not be in it at all.

Then that brings up the question who even liked Generations Classic Sonic gameplay?

Any involvement or part of Classic Sonic's gameplay is automatically considered bad as long Sonic Team still keep using with their handmade "physics" engine from Generations which they don't correspond with the physics of the Genesis games and Sonic Mania. After playing Mania, I really can't tolerate Classic Sonic on Forces.

Even as a Adventure fan, I only really look forward at Modern Sonic and Avatar. At least, I like the music.

Well, I'm sure as hell ain't in that camp. Classic Sonic's levels in Generations were easily the weakest link in what was one of Modern Sonic's best games, if not the best, in the past decade.

In my eyes, this is the perfect opportunity for SEGA to finally start ironing out Sonic's identity. Pull a Nintendo (In the vein of Paper Mario) and make Mania its own spin off series. Keep the dev team that made Mania what it was and it would be a sure fire success. It will keep the classic fags happy and leave SEGA/Sonic Team to finally define Modern Sonic's gameplay style. 'Cause lets be honest, 18 years after adventure and they still don't know what it is.

i liked those stages, actually.
they could make an entire game of those, starring rouge hunting for treasure.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Hopefully this means a 3D casino level. We haven't had one with the boost.

God no, it was nice but i'd much rather not.

Just popping into this thread to say thanks for posting that, that's a kick ass remix. Love the music from Sonic CD!

what if their is going to be Time Travel and this is Casino Night Zone Past?

You seem to underestimate how divided the fanbase is. There's people who like the Big the Cat stages and the racing stages from SA2.

Well judging from the signpost it looks like Classic Eggman is back in this game too.

I liked it.

This, people who unironically like SA 1& 2 more then a guilty pleasure should be ashamed to voice their opinion in public. Liking SA is clearly a sign of mental retarded. We need to bring back bullying.

Is Sonic Forces just Sonic Generations 2?

It looks worse

I can admit that Adventure 1 and 2 are far from perfect games, but I still played both for hundreds of hours and enjoy them too this day.
I think the term Guilty Pleasure is Dumb when it comes to games. If I like a game, then I like the game. Why should I act as if it's something to be a shamed of? It just a video game.

Also Nice post deleting

It basically is, but they added the OC creator and Infinite so they could justify not calling it that.

Fuck denuvo
Fuck Sega
Fuck Power Levels
And fuck you
Kikohou

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Mania only came to exist for the sake of advertising Forces, it's part of how they have no confidence in Modern Sonic alone. Too bad for them Mania "accidentally" raised the bar which will make Forces look worse by comparison. Sega are probably wishing they never let Mania happen right now

Reused assets

What the fuck is going on? This game is 3 weeks away from release and they think this is acceptable?

Sonic 4E2 looks like a masterpiece compared to THIS

They must've really gone over budget making that 2.5D boost game engine, huh? Because they sure are milking it the fuck to death.
This does not need to exist as a standalone game. It could've been Generations DLC.

I hope we see Chemical plant, cause they never recycle that one!!!11!!

Chemical Plant is awesome dude I hope they put Flying Battery Zone and its long as fuck I love that one!

Nostalgia milking can only go so far, SEGA.

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It was alright but most of the weakest levels came from classic sonic's side. he also felt iffy.

And although I doubt it, I wanna see old levels like marble garden zone or Aquatic ruins.

Now that I think of it Colors, Lost world, and Secret rings are the only 3D Sonic games were you play as just Sonic.

Every other game has other characters stages or a gimmick like the Werehog.

Your post really was gay as fuck though, just so you know.

Seriously, i hope classic levels become just bonus stages or something, because without hazards nor enemies this thing is boring as hell. Also:
Jesus, do you get a life with 999 rings now? Otherwise that amount is insane, or just prove my previous wish.

This honestly looks like they found some rejected layouts from sonic 2 SMS/GG and put them in a game to pad it out. Phoned-in level design, with empty spaces flood-filled with ring objects to busy it up without a thought for whether they're even reachable.

Does anyone else get the impression that this game could have been created in Unity? At least aesthetically speaking, it looks like something an amateur could make.

Even with your quads most people already reached the conclusion that this game looks really amateur.

I'm really on the fence about Forces based on what we've seen. I'm not sold on anything I've seen so far. Nothing looks promising. Even the music sounds bland. It's like I'm looking at a mix of Generations and Lost World. And Classic Sonic is back for no reason with the horrible recreation of his classic physics. It just looks messy and unfulfilled.

I think it might be another case of "trying to do too many things at once".

Actually there aren't any lives in Forces. I guess Sonic team realized lives started to be kind of pointless since they are so easy to get in the 3D games.

Instead the ranking system is

Yay!!! It's just like Shovel Knight xD

What did he mean by this

It looks like they reused assets from Lost World's Silent Forest and Frozen Factory's Casino.

Oh man you know what would be so sweet? They should bring back stardust speedway and have you fight metal sonic! The JP music is so funny "huehuehuehue" XD they should bring that one too

Well we all know nobody is getting this game for the gameplay.

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I found a ton of these Sonic Hooters memes

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I watched what was at TGS aside from the Hooters thing out of nowhere, they showed nothing new.
but this QT was there, shes the Japanese Voice of the female custom character.

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haha
mega.nz/#!EwEHEDBQ!H9UJg42tSUUZsLdMNuy3mHyli-GEv-EbrA-LeJhlNOY

What is this dolphin porn?

NO WAY. IT FUCKING LEAKED ALREADY!?

I can't put my finger on why, but those physics look jarringly off. It's mostly the jumps. Sonic looks like he jumps into the air, hovers for a second, then just plummets immediately, instead of a proper trajectory. The speed is also weird. He hits his top speed almost immediately, but his top speed is pathetically slow, even when going down hill. He only really goes fast through boosts and getting launched by something. A couple times where he hits walls, too, he just drops immediately for no reason.

There is more that feels janky about it that I can't really explain, though. It doesn't look like it would feel good to play.

This was the version that leaked originally back in March. I don't think the new version leaked, and I don't think it's going to at this point if it's not another NEVER EVER situation.

This OC restored my faith in character editor

Yeah I think it's was made by the girl in that webm.
Someone already drew fan art of it.

So this is why it has denuvo. Its not because of mark, its because forces got leaked in marth.

News to me.

I guess i'm just slow, but what is this File exactly.
I don't know what an ISP file is or how one would use it.

*IPS

IPS is used with Lunar IPS.exe, download Yoshis's Island (SNES) and see what happens when you patch it

That's not for Yoshi's Island. That's for Sonic 2. That's the patch that puts Yoshi in Sonic 2. Video related. It's really fucking well done.

And here it is patched and uploaded for you faggots, so you don't have to do it yourself:
my.mixtape.moe/ngykkb.gen

Thx

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Strange how you forgot chao garden

They technically were a basic for later sonic racing games, especially its drifting mechanic.

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Yeah man. Fuck Nier.

Overrated weebshit and generic platgame #9001, NOW WITH SO DEEP TARO WRITING!

It'll be cracked in less then a week anyway. At this point it's just companies being too butthurt to admit putting that shit in their games does any good.

as if the advance games will ever be acknowledged

Cream did make her debut in Sonic Advance 2, so there's that. But I kind of wish that Gemerl would come back. I mean, what's someone that powerful doing during Forces?

You know, I have always been one of these people who say that Sonic just does not work in 3D (or at least with the "boost" formula) because the game simply plays itself. But after playing Sonic Mania I'm thinking that this might be the case with Sonic games in general.

The problem might be the whole speed gimmick in the first place. In every 2D Sonic game you have a choice: you either run as fast as possible to the end of the level skipping pretty much everything, which requires little to no input from the player, or you spend time exploring the level collecting rings, lifes, shields or Chaos Emeralds, but that timer in the top left corner clearly doesn't want you to play the game this way. And in the original trilogy this formula worked pretty well… because there was no saving system. In Sonic Mania, on the other hand, the whole exploration part becomes useless. Why would you care about shields or lifes when even if you get a game over you will start from the beginning of the zone, not the entire game. "But wait!.." you might say, "What about the Chaos Emeralds?" to which I'd reply, "What's the point of going invincible in a game where you have no stakes?" Pretty much all enemies in every single Sonic game were just level decorations and death pits were really rare but now you even have saves in case you're a complete noob. By the end of the game I personally had around fifty lifes and have died only two or three times. I wouldn't call myself a "professional Sonic player" or something among these lines but I found the game too easy. The only challenging things I can recall are Chaos Emeralds stages and trying to bring 100+ rings to the end of the level. But both of these were not challenging my skills but rather my patience. Also, now that I think about it, the ring system itself might be somewhat broken as well because even if you have just one ring you're invincible, which makes every single boss in almost (last level in Sonic 2) every Sonic game a piece of cake.

Dunno, I don't really hate Sonic Mania but after finishing it I felt very unsatisfied, which wasn't the case with 2 or 3&K back when I was playing them on Sega Mega Drive. Maybe it has something to do with the overall presentation in my case. I didn't find the levels and the music all that enjoyable, while some of the the environments of the original trilogy inspire me to this day.

Anyways, what's your opinion on all this, user?

Most of the people ITT are consolefags, so they don't care.
Plus they're clinging onto the notion that Sonic Forces might even have a chance of being good.

Why not own both a console and a PC? Why resort to console war bullshit when one can both obtain a fun game on console as well as critique it for having denuvo?

This right here has been one of the biggest contributions to the autism of this shit

I played through Sonic 3 just the other night. A lot of the bosses are difficult to score a hit on without taking one yourself (Marble Garden 2, Ice Cap 1, and Launch Base 2 especially). In this case I think the ring system is a boon, it really works for the "Wait for an opening" style that the game has.

Additionally, during a boss fight you may recover ~10 rings on the first hit, given knockback and screen limits. The borders of the screen become very real obstacles as rings fly off them never to be seen again.

It helps when there is an extra hazard or element to that makes doing collection difficult

Hedgehog Engine really wasn't built for Genesis-style gameplay at all and it shows. It looks truer to the Genesis games than Generations' iteration did but I'm not fond of the Sonic 1-style speed cap (even if it's preferable to Generations not even pretending to have any limiter on Classic's normal run-speed) or that the physics still look pretty weird.

Boob envy cat is best cat

Does anyone here masturbate to sonic here? I don't mean the franchise but the character himself. What gets you going?

Shit taste, even for a furry.

Bruh, Dimps had nothing to do with the music.
That was all Jun Senoue.

the itty bitty titty kitty

I'm not gay but there's something about Sonic's cum…

Yiff in hell furfag.

I don't get off to Sonic, which is why I wonder how people sexualize him

Who the fuck is designing the levels for this shit? The classic Sonic portions of Generations were way more interesting than this.

Whoa guys what if they put in Hydrocity and made it a slow puzzle level that would be such a twist

well, some people are attracted to guys

Lol what a gay.

Well, some people must be eliminated.

well, some people are attracted to killing gays

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>not the little cocks two tailed fox

Its amazing how i beat oil ocean boss in first try just because i used to play sonic 2 version of that zone a lot. Mark never played sonic before mania.

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What do you mean? I've been able to extract the data from Mania.

"Consumer control" = "I have no idea what I'm talking about or what Denuvo does beyond making me have to crack it before I can play it" since you can modify Mania's data just fine even with Denuvo. All Mania looks for is the data.rsdk file.

but that's ___gay, user
also
>foxes are like cats: they have microjunk.

mp4 related
Why do all the bumpers have a musical cue?
What are all the rings doing here if the only hazards are two spiked balls thirty seconds into the level?
How is anyone mentally capable of designing something as retarded as the vertical section at 1:05?

Holla Forums - Video Games

it's OK, he just read some retarded github page and thinks he knows all about muh consumer rights and why doodoobo is so bad.

pirates are fucking retards.

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Maybe it's because he has speed cap, like in Sonic 1? And it seems it works like it did there too, which means you must be rolling to bypass the cap.

3,000$ Dollars have been deposited into your account.

I just don't know what cues trigger people and stimulate them

NO S.A.G.E. 2017 THREAD?
nobody talking about Sonic Amateur Games Expo???
mark knows about sage
sonicfangameshq.com/SAGE/games/

Sonic Panic and Sonic 2 HD are the dopiest:

sonicfangameshq.com/forums/attachments/sonicpanicsage2017v2-zip.601/

sonicfangameshq.com/forums/attachments/s2hd_2-0-1012-rc2-zip.564/

Sonic Legacy is a damn good Rom hack tbh
mediafire.com/file/4xjnfeu67942skf/SonicLegacySAGEDemo Update.zip

That s2hd video:

I'm gay, retarded, and cannot edit videos, anyone wanna take a stab at cutting out the empty frames for a quality webm?
r2---sn-5ua5oupjcc-5vve.googlevideo.com/videoplayback?gir=yes&dur=920.133&pl=22&clen=139478243&aitags=247&lmt=1506568506236129&signature=607326DC46674C0E2C660CFAB6549232B0FA3EB7.06B79263C922CC571D6A3892D0A6C574884CE35C&ipbits=0&ip=107.178.195.207&mime=video/webm&key=cms1&source=youtube&id=o-ACqRCoyIPbMwEvF3Ys2kqFuX5_F3-uTwxCVG758hHoG5&ei=XPTPWd7MNY6JwQHX6rmYAg&sparams=aitags,clen,dur,ei,expire,gir,id,ip,ipbits,itag,lmt,mime,mip,mm,mn,ms,mv,pl,source&expire=1506822332&itag=247&ratebypass=yes&utmg=ytap1,,adaptive&cms_redirect=yes&mip=209.203.203.148&mm=31&mn=sn-5ua5oupjcc-5vve&ms=au&mt=1506801103&mv=m

Every single time Holla Forums finds interest in something is usually when I stop caring about it since it eventually leads to normalfaggots given the hierarchy of the net. And that jews ruin everything.

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It plays just like the original sonic 2.

I will admit that I never thought on this until you mentioned it. I do say this is a intriguing detail I didn't notice.
But still, that's dumb. They removed the speed cap on Sonic 2 and any other successor Sonic game (especially Sonic Mania) for a reason. The current marketing plan Sonic Team is advertising is that Sonic is a pretty fast guy that gotta go fast, so why would they input an imposing speed limit on Classic Sonic? I don't think it's that they are just bringing back one old forgotten "element".

Or don't press the d-pad and let Sonic explore its speeding momentum alone. That's also another way you can do to bypass the speed cap.

Ever since the 90's, when did normalfags care about Sonic? You don't see "gamur geeks" flaunt their Sonic merch but rather their Mario or Zelda stuff. Also normalfags prefer Rick and Morty over Sonic Boom or Gumball when the latter cartoons also have self-aware humor. When I talked to the gaming club at my uni at their recruitment booth at the start of the sem, they didn't know that Sonic Mania and Forces were a thing.

Saw some kids wearing Sonic shirts a few times.

Sonic was only normalfag in the early 90's when there was a Sonic anything as far as products go. It became uncool to like Sonic once Sonic 06' ruined his image for the rest of time and he became the butt of every joke with everyone making fun of it.

Why 06? I mean franchises went through pure shit. Look at Transformers, it had Kiss Players and Bayformers yet despite being worse than 06 they're still remembered fondly yet with Sonic, a game that had the ambition, it's enough to damn a franchise.

Nobody knows about Kiss Players and casuals like Bayformers. Also Transformers is from the '80s, and '80s nostalgiafags are the worst and most dedicated nostalgiafags of all time.

Has anyone played this?

Yeah I have. It's almost identical to the first game and neither are that good.

Well oou saved me some Memory Stick space, but the soundtrack seems good at least.

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Yeah just look at some gameplay if your curious. Most of the gameplay is racing another character it comes of like a 2D version of adventure 2's 2 player race mode. Everyone has a character power to screw over their opponent. but you can't spin dash and the level design is so limited that every level feels like a 2D version of that Grind race level.

every piratefag tbh, cucked to death on a nogames platform

mmmmmm your euphoria is making me WET AS FUCK

New zone revealed. It's basically Chemical Plant zone but it's actually the resistance base.

what is up with that checkpoint?

Did they take over eggmans base?

*sigh* Why can't they change the name? Nobody wanted Chemical Plant back.

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Denuvo

I don't doubt they'd be dumb enough to still always apply the speed cap if you're not rolling.

Wasn't Big included to show off the capabilities of the Dreamcast? Fishing would be a chill minigame if it wasn't strictly related to the main story and if they made Big less annoying
Absolutely terrible
Awesome
Just let players see all three counters at the same time and give them a mix of SA1 (too easy) and SA2 (too cryptic without knowing the level layout) hints and I'd be game for it
what

3D representation of the 2D checkpoint.
Because it's Chemical Plant zone, a zone from Sonic 2! You remember Sonic 2, right? Sonic 2?

You realize that your post is the very definition of not an argument. Any game can be boiled down to a few over generalized statements that diminish its value.

Looks like they did the same thing they did with Green Hill where they just tweaked an existing zone to look more bleak. Forces looks horribly uninspired.

You normalfaggots are literally fucking retarded.

Why the fuck do they keep recycling Green Hill Zone? Enough is enough already.

Generations celebrated Sonic's 20th anniversary.
Forces is meant to celebrate Sonic's 25th.
Just you wait - they'll do it all again for 2021.

And sonic forces was written by a western anti-drumpf activist and not like there's anything wrong with that.

But that makes even less sense.
If it was a 3D representation, it'd make more sense to have the orb on the other side, and starting at the bottom of the post.
That way when you run past it, the implication is that you're hitting it like a turnstyle.

Well, fuck my ass. I must be pyschic! Watch me tempt fate…
Oh, boy! Chemical Zone is back! You know what would be more awesomer!? SKY SANCTUARY!

Now, we wait.

Green Hill Zone but in ICE coming next

Just about every Main line Sonic game has some variation on green hill zone, a Beach or both, as the first level.

Emerald hill zone in Sonic 2, and Palm Tree panic in Sonic CD. Sonic 3D blast has the same shit again with green grove zone. Angel Iand Zone in Sonic 3 I would give a pass since it's a jungle and it gets set on fire.

Sonic Adventure has the Emerald coast which was finally something different since it was a Beach. But then Sonic Heroes had another Beach level with Seaside hill, and Sonic 06 Had yet another beach level with Wave ocean.
Sonic lost has Windy Hill which is just Green hill zone but it's floating

I think one of the reasons everyone loves City Escape so much aside from the song is that it feels like the most Unique first level in the series. The closest thing to ripping off City Escape is Westopolis from Shadow the Hedgehog, but that level is a war zone so it's different enough IMO.

Actually Those western writers who wrote the last 3 or so Sonic games are only Translating I think. I'm pretty sure Sonic team wrote the story for Forces, there is no way a western writer would come up with something like Infinite.

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Yeah, Only Sonic Team would come up with that IMO. Did you forget that Sonic team made Satan the Main villain twice in a row.

and they have Casino Nights Past. It seems like the Sonic CD gimmick and Little Planet is going to at least play a big roll in the plot.

You do realize that's already basically confirmed too, right?
Look up that one phone game of Forces, Sky Sanctuary is a level in that.
Pic related's my reaction at Sonic Team, not your post.

then it's likely not going to be in the main game. Just like how Mushroom Hill was in the DS version of Generations.
you need to go back to cuckchan fam

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I thought your filenames were jokes. Holy shit.

Ya gotta be fuckin' kidding me. Well, ain't that some shit?

At this point user, it's par for the course. I won't be surprised if Sky Sanctuary comes back for the console/PC release for Forces. They're going to take the safe route and rehash old levels with new skins.

And, fans will eat this shit up.

Funny how the guy who made this worked on sonic mania

The best part is Black Doom is Shadow's blood father and Mephiles literally got his form from Shadow's Shadow, webm related.

Man when I was a younger Autist, I was really into Sonic's story and I thought that shit was the best. Now I wouldn't go as far as to say I like it ironically, but I can appreciate just how ridiculous the story got.
I can't wait to see What they do with Infinite because it seems like they same ridiculous shit they were doing before and I can't get enough of it.

Nothing will ever top Titan Tails

So they're just recycling assets from Generations now. Wonderful. So what are we thinking here, Forces is so cash-strapped that they had to re-use stuff from Generations, or they quickly redid all the levels using old assets to be more "classic" in an attempt to one-up the Mania team? I'm going with the latter.

While I don't doubt they're reusing some assets, you can bet your ass Iizuka's having therm remake a good amount of it, cause it's not Sonic unless it has Green Hill zone, Chemical Plant zone, and Sky Sanctuary zone. Just not Sonic at all, really.

Man I don't know if i'm autistic, enough to delve into Penders run of the comics.

Big was Sega Bass Fishing, just like Sky Chase 1 and 2 were Panzer Dragoon, and Gamma was Burning Rangers. They had these gameplay concepts and only had to tweak them slightly to fit them into the game, so they did.

I'm also still convinced The Werehog was originally a 3D Ristar. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Chip was originally going to be Ristar, and have the stretchy arm gameplay before it got moved to an altered Sonic, and then Chip was left with a story that isn't all that unlike Ristar (tiny cute character who is actually a celestial object).

Hints are for pussies and will decimate your score. SA2's treasure hunting was way better because the levels were way better. But yeah, just fix the radar so people stop bitching about it.

Don't forget that the other villain in Sonic '06 is Iblis, literally the name of the devil in Islam. But to be fair he and Mephiles are just halves of a fire time god who is the real villain.

Well Mephiles is the conscious mind, and Iblis is his raw power, so I guess that's correct. Still Iblis and Solaris have no dialog so they come off as forces of Nature to me. Where as Mephiles clearly shows his villainy.