i'm phone. not gonna open all those tabs just to get mad.
Joshua Moore
Makes me wish they still had a magazine with cds that actually had half decent shit on them, like demos.
Kayden Clark
Even for PCGamer this is pretty gay. Hannah Dwan(?) seems alright.
Hunter Brown
How is Dark Souls a PS3 game?
Matthew King
Is Runescape on there
Isaiah Nelson
Get a load of this smug shit that doesn't even zoom properly.
Isaac Bailey
Also question Does the PC Gaming Magazine application on steam come with any freebies you can actually download?
Noah Turner
They are actually shitting on Deadly Premonition i'm going to kill them.
Joseph Nelson
Maybe Deadly Premonition had that worrying sexy fox. Worringly sexy, what the fuck is wrong with these people?
Robert Taylor
Lead development was for PS3 and then it was ported to 360?
James Brooks
If it's not an exclusive then it's not a PS3 title?
Owen Wilson
Nope. The PhyreEngine is multiplatform(including the 360) by design even if it is owned by Sony.
Luis Campbell
are they they ones being ironic or are they just dickheads?
Dylan Reyes
First there'd need to be demos.
Robert Thomas
I would have thought it was a dead giveaway that Demon's Souls was a PS3 game, the sequel was made on the same engine, and there was no 360 release in Japan. Leave it to Soulsfags to derail any thread, I guess.
Benjamin Bennett
Demos died out the moment publishers realized a demo could potentially reduce pre order numbers, expect even LESS demos and betas from here on because lawbreakers open beta killed the game phenomenally
William Gutierrez
They probably know that lists like that are just virtue signalling for publishers (HEY, WE'RE STILL HERE, GIVE US INTERVIEWS AND SHIT) and that nobody sane actually takes them seriously.
Charles Young
Well there's stuff other than demos sometimes, I remember one came with a FULL MIDI CREATION PROGRAM, and not like a horribly cut down mario paint one with fixed instruments, you could actually load soundfonts into this shit.
Liam Cook
They're being smug shits like every other brit on the internet. Also I'd like to mention that Total Warhammer is the one and only TW game on that list. And that fucking invisible inc and Xcom 2 are on the list, and Burnout Paradise too. And Dishonored 2. And battlefield 1. And Portal fucking 2.
Joshua Rogers
hi, phone. I'm user!
I don't even give a damn what they have to say. When was the last time I even trusted a gamesite with anything? 2008 Gametrailers maybe, but even then they couldn't suck Call of Duty's or Uncharted's dicks fast enough.
Jayden Bailey
This is a marketing ploy with lip service interspersed into it.
Zachary Diaz
When can we have the english deleted and all their land given to the irish
Gabriel Rodriguez
Dark Souls is easier to recommend on PC than ever thanks to the tireless efforts of modders throughout the years. With DSfix you can play it at just about any resolution with high-res textures (or just Shrek on everything). Dark Souls Mouse Fix makes mouse-and-keyboard play a legitimate control method. Item location randomisers make it an infinitely replayable roguelike. And mods such as the Shovel Knight armour or the fidget spinner weapon skin show the game’s got a near infinite extended life after launch. Dark Souls’ reputation began as a difficult, punishing game. On the PC, it’s evolved to become whatever you want it to be.
Joseph Jackson
Not liking I have no experience with Hero Shooters, Average Flight Sims (only know good ones, like Microsoft Flight Simulator) or Dragon Age II But I guess even those must be better than their list.
Sebastian Anderson
I mean they're not wrong, I might have checked out the new Doom and Resident Evil 7 if the demos hadn't turned me off them.
Ryder Myers
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Logan Collins
They get their clicks from people shitting on them.
Dominic Williams
In fairness neither 3 nor 4 made the list, while 2 and NV did.
Isaiah Wood
What's offensive about it?
Hudson Kelly
MISTA JAY CEE DENTON IN DA FRESH
Anthony Murphy
Outrage clicks, the new clickbait. 5 bucks for 10000 clciks. They nearly do it for free.
Wyatt Hughes
It's an old game so it's ugly and ugly graphics are offensive to modern gamers that demand realistic graphics in their interactive movies.
Matthew Walker
Don't matter, they hyped that shit when it was relevant. FO3 got 91 on pc gamer.
You can kill kids and women.
Jacob Clark
I hope that either Gone Homo or Depression Kvetch is on that list.
Michael Sanchez
I think archive is still worth it because their retarded reasons for those games is comedic but if you just want the games here you go. pastebin.com/JF5KFZL0
Luis Sanders
Can you imagine how awful it is to be a gaming journalist?
Jonathan Ward
game journos deserve to suffer since none of them even like games anymore
Xavier Wright
Understandable, since the only good RTS are Tiberian Sun, Red Alert 2, Generals, and Age of Empires 2. Grim Fandango is good, but I'm willing to write off the entire genre because of "muh adventure game logic" and the fact that they're less games and more puzzles. If they mean VNs or weird H-Games, sure. None of that shit has any reason to exist. Reading a fucking book or go watch some porn. I was born in the late 80s, so maybe I just "had to be there" and would have a different perspective if I was 40, but vidya just barely became playable in the 3rd gen. MMOs have always been shit. You can't even try and spin this one.
Justin Lee
Puzzle games are not games now?
Evan Edwards
I kinda enjoyed it, but really? I didn't even expect it to be in top 100
Michael Parker
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Nicholas Sullivan
This is a joke.
Tyler Rivera
Wow, someone with a shittier opinion than PC Gamer fuckwits.
Kayden Ortiz
Just shut the fuck up. Or better, join pc gamer, you'll fit right in.
Ryan Gomez
No it's PC Gamer
Jeremiah Martinez
Name 3 differences, hitler.
Zachary Hernandez
a multi platform first person horror game thats okay at best? pixel shit shilled by the clique speaking of garbage shilled by the clique bahahahahahah ie. cucked by a tranny into censoring our work. So brave. objectively inferior to the first RNG the game, blizzard dick sucking blizzard dick sucking blizzard dick sucking gj Todd EARLY ACCESS DAYZ CLONE THAT GETS MORE CANCEROUS AS TIME GOES ON lmao blizzard dick sucking the "we dont know what we're talking about and this confirms it" selection holy shit are they insane … it's… fine? but number 1 of all time?
the list is mind bogglingly bad and basically a mix of passable opinions and outright retardation that fills me with dread. Basically imagine the morons you know that play the worst most popular shit imaginable and pretend they made a list of the greatest things of all time based on those selections.
Nathaniel Butler
I don't have to imagine :^)
Owen Hughes
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Jordan Harris
they can't be serious. most people don't even know this game exists. it's shit
Ryan Torres
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Nathan Kelly
Where is Stalker? it should be in the top 10
Juan Young
Holy shit this is terrible, it only has mainstream shit.
Alexander Thompson
I'm sure it translates to
Jacob Moore
If the "game" has one and only one solution, with zero dynamic gameplay, it's a puzzle, and not a game. Hell, if your game has no failure states outside of extremely scripted and limited scenes, or worse, no failure states at all, it isn't a game.
Most anons are pretty good about recognizing the fact that walking simulators are not games, as there is no gameplay, and no failure state, but appear to have a blind spot for the adventure "games" they must have played as kids and are still viewing through a lens of nostalgia.
Ayden Reyes
Admittedly, theres's some really good games there but I am a PC fag so MGS, Mother, Dark Souls and Chrono Trigger should be eliminated, and so should basically half the list.
Jordan Bailey
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Elijah Long
But Dark Souls is better on the PC
Also Dragons Dogma
Or do you want to eliminate arcade games form console games?
Matthew Williams
Most of the console stuff on that list is extremely mainstream stuff or games that most of Holla Forums holds as dear. There is literally zero originality on it.
Dylan Edwards
Modded, certainly. Vanilla, not even top 100 material. Vanilla SoC is just as broken and fundamentally unplayable from a gameplay perspective as Vanilla Shitblivion.
Now you're getting it!
Nathan Davis
Yeah but, 3 and 4 didn't make it yet they're supposedly more exciting than NV, sounds like they put NV and 2 in there so they can say how hip and in touch they are with the fans of actual Fallout.
Bentley Fisher
He isn't really inventing the definition, I think he's going by the Chris Crawford lecture on games vs. puzzles vs. toys vs. competitions.
Well, it was made by popular vote, so obviously it would not have the most original picks. It's not even the worst iteration of the list, I remember compiling one like a week before the 8/v/ exodus that would make you a little more depressed.
Owen Parker
They dig their own grave. Write an article about a game you love and go into autistic detail about how it's perfect and how devs could learn from it. Anybody could get a great article out of something that simple.
Of course, youtubers do their job better so I never read their crap anyway.
Michael Gray
*also, most game journos are just dropouts from other areas of journalism.
Connor Watson
Haven't we had this thread before? I feel like someone lists their top 100 games of all time every month now.
Ian Watson
Oh dear.
Lucas Wilson
It's fucking impossible to make any top list whatsoever because it's just too subjective. What would be the objective best video game of all time? To someone who likes RPGs it would be completely different than to someone who likes FPS games for example. We can have lists or charts of some objectively good games in certain genres or platforms but making a "best of the best" list is impossible and a waste of time, since no one will agree with it anyway.
Isaiah Martinez
Literally nobody told them to pick that career path.
Liam Morris
Why do all of these "Top 100 games" rank shitty sequels high while forgetting about the originals? Always shit that is hyped up to be "unforgettable" that no one remembers when the next list is made. Like that one list either done by gamespot/G4 that placed angry birds above Dues Ex, and treated fucking gears of war 3 as an emotional timeless classic.
Grayson Thompson
Because the sequels are still being sold. Connect the dots.
Ethan Brooks
well this is awfully convenient
Nicholas Gray
>>>/ovens/
Andrew Lewis
Why do people eat this shit right up?
Cameron Nguyen
most big-name journos will put out really similar lists
Wyatt Gonzalez
I can see why people would say 4/5 of these games. I'm surprised a western publication would even recognize Dark Souls 1 But I can't respect that opinion in any way.
Between the virtue signaling and what appears to be bald-faced marketing I'm surprised Skyrim (GOTY 2011) is only #26 under #25 PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds. Below those is stardew valley and FTL. I love those games, and I have a level of animosity toward Skyrim, still believe skyrim is an objectively better game than harvest moon clone and space oregon trail. Morrowind is #57. Tales from The Borderlands is #53. I don't believe any actual work was put into this list, someone just looked at a shelf of games. Dragons Age shitquisition (GOTY 2014) didn't even make their list. I don't believe it deserves a place on a top 100 list either, but I imagine they just completely forgot.
How did they make this list? Did they just take their cuckstine journos, put them in a room and told them to think of 100 PC games and the more they can remember combined the higher it gets on the list?
Jordan Gomez
The issue is that gaming journalism has lost all heart and soul. Nowadays it's all about the advertising money that publishers pay which in turn is basically bribing. Remember that shit with Kane and Lynch and Gamespot? That's exactly what happens all the time. None of them actually like games, people have lost all love for games and it's all bias and bribing.
Nathaniel Butler
Because you look at something like Xenonauts(it's the closest thing I can think of that isn't going to be immediately disqualified because MUH GRAFX) and it's clear how easily some idiot will find it too overwhelming. What? I choose where to place my bases? I can build vehicles? I have funds and need to pick my base layout? I need to scramble aircraft and actually control them? I have more than 6 people to control and I can have different loadouts for them? I need to take notice of line of sight and time of day? I need to use smoke grenades and shields to not get my ass raped? Instead of what should be the standard of going "holy damn this game is pretty deep and complex and challenging" people would much rather play an insultingly easy game with flashy graphics and high budget animations that overstay their welcome.
Jason Miller
When was the golden age of games journalism? The big sites were always bad.
If anything, I'd say that golden age is now. Plenty of sites inspired by gamergate and some good youtubers.
Brayden Turner
Actually they don't. Fun fact, most youtubers recycle old reviews and wiki's for their script, and can't be bothered to actually do any work on anything. Who needs effort when you can just not tell anyone that tcrf.net exists. Bonus They've tried suing me for pointing this out in their comment sections before.
Eli Barnes
I know it's said a lot on here and it's sort of lost meaning at this point but I really want to fucking shoot these people.
Nathaniel Williams
Vanilla is pretty good, what the fuck are you smoking
Evan Harris
Do you also enjoy driving a barely functional car that warps its cylinder head every few hundred miles?
Jacob Jones
When the Irish leave the EU
Carson Bell
I played it on release and didn't had any major bugs.
Plus the patches also fixed a lot.
Jayden Hill
just you wait, EU will become neo-Ireland in due time.
Logan Morgan
Back in the 90s, some magazine - I think it was EGM - complained that Street Fighter II was getting too many re-releases. Capcom got pissy and threatened to pull their advertising if they didn't take that back. Instead, the editor publicly told Capcom to suck it up because he had integrity.
Henry Barnes
when i was a kid i thought EGM and OPM were fucking brilliant, OPM gave you a demo disc every month that was so sick
Hudson Clark
That reminds me. Is there any documentation down of the software included with these magazines? Which of these promotional disks it'd be worth hunting down at yardsales and shit for the free software?
Cooper Murphy
And this is just in the first fifteen.
Jose Parker
That's obvious yeah, CVG and PC Zone used to be good. What are some decent sites or Youtube channels for games reviews? (aside from the best like Angry Joe and Jim Sterling) I saw this guy called ACG who reviews almost anything new really fast and while I don't entirely like his format it's good to get an opinion from someone that probably isn't paid ad money under the table.
Zachary Cooper
Did they make this top list purposely to anger people?
Bentley Richardson
Ain't the IRA a bunch of Marxists? Sage for ot
Daniel Fisher
Don't watch reviews, just look for raw gameplay footage and make your own opinions
Aaron Davis
It's 99. Should have specified it was from 100 to 85.
Hudson Hughes
That's a pretty terrible way to judge a game in my opinion but if that works for you that's fine with me.
Matthew Clark
What's so terrible about it?
Easton Hughes
Let me guess, lots of shitty new games and indie-shit nobody plays, but sprinkled in older classic games at the higher positions to avoid "controversy"?
How close was i?
Carter Allen
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Jason Morgan
Gotta love the witcher 3 explanation. The very beginning of the Phil's line:
Colton Young
With games like RPGs watching even at an extreme say 1 hour of gameplay doesn't really show you the whole package with things like quests and dialogue and such. If you just watch 1 hour and see that the graphics and gameplay are iffy and just throw it in the bin then you might miss out on a great game.
I'm not looking for that, I'm just looking for opinions, most of the time I listen to what people on certain unnamed forums have to say. I stopped listening to Holla Forums on video games a long time ago.
Tyler Barnes
EGM rode Capcoms dick by giving Street Fighter so many cover stories, look it up.
They did famously tell Acclaim to fuck off after they threatened to pull advertising because EGM negatively reviewed Total Recall for NES.
Already follow Matthew, same with Joseph Anderson. I think Caption is a bit of a shithead and I don't like Gggmanlives too much. I'll check out what this Random Madness guy has to say.
Isaac Gutierrez
Protip: those reviewers are as uninformed as you are.
Kill yourself.
Daniel Harris
You mean Angry Jose and Jim RESISTerling? That was a joke, dude. Thought that was obvious.
Jack Brown
HERETICS!
John Williams
In my opinion the best way to figure out if a game is bad or not is to just pirate and play it. If you want like some comedian playing a video game or something I really have no idea. The likes of Dunkey and Ssethtzznach are usually hit or miss for me.
Anthony Thomas
These cunts have no fucking idea how a mod works
Carson Parker
And how convenient that its expansion, War of the (((Chosen))) is about to release.
Christian Smith
What a shit list, and how is The Witcher 3 number one?
Lincoln Johnson
Regardless if you think the forums outside this shithole will provide you with a good impression of a game, then you're the biggest retard.
Is a cuck.
Daniel Bennett
I know this was a PC-centric list so I didn't know what to expect, honestly the number 1 isn't Skyrim or HL2 even though I would've been fine with HL2 being number 1 so I guess it could be worse
Adrian Gray
kys fag
Hudson Allen
Stop breathing.
Leo Garcia
kek
Austin Peterson
And don't forget about the quakecon sale! Guess who owns id! Guess who also publishes Dishonored 2!
Elijah Diaz
How? I think Holla Forums is sort of dead at this point and I only check in every once in a while because of habit.
Camden Gomez
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Gabriel Richardson
There's a reason why witcher 3 is number 1. So they could boast that its so good, other game's shouldn't even try to get on the level of witcher 3. So they can protect other shitty games like Mass Effect Andromeda, saying that its 9/10, and witcher 3 is just top masterpiece nobody can overthrow.
Tyler Turner
Please tell us why cuckold havens known for their shit taste like reddit and neofag are better places to discuss games.
Adrian Lee
He didn't say they were better.
Kayden Diaz
A joke is something you laugh with it , not at it A joke can still be, unintentionally , funny even if you miss or fail to deliver the punchline correctly A joke may still be relevant 5 years from now
Matthew Sanchez
Not every forum on the internet is like that and I don't go to either.
Logan Harris
Then there's no reason to go to them when they're demonstrably worse.
Joshua Thompson
Shits on strategy games, pisses and moans about not understanding the tutorial and missing important systems.
These people need to die.
Isaac Gutierrez
He said he goes there?
Logan Price
Oh my mistake, then what is this better forum that molds your opinion then?
Dominic Green
That's some serious bait.
Eli Evans
What is on there stays on there.
Jonathan Sullivan
That list is actually decent though. I disagree with a good amount of the rankings but the Doesn't apply here when the games on the list are a lot of 'breakout' games or games that solidified the franchise's popularity. The problem is what followed in their wake, not most of the games themselves.
Ryder Taylor
Yeah nah.
Angel Johnson
???
Tyler Kelly
At least it wont be a bunch of Zelda games.
I hope she washed all the crusty old jizz off that belt before she kissed it.
captcha gas rel
Bentley Evans
No shit. Most pop history/science channels basically read wikipedia. I'm obviously referring to videos like the one I posted.
Brandon Green
Ah, so gamefags then
Adam Adams
lmao you already went with gamefags, neofag and ribbit, what's next?
Brayden Jackson
He's another eceleb that's triggered over Fronald Dumpf being elected
Jason Foster
Wew, no. Never would fall that low. It's pretty obscure.
Owen Carter
Not an argument
Colton Carter
Is this a joke?
Pic related may as well be the authors
Jason Morales
Just like yours "yeah it can be a good list" is not an argument.
Sebastian Ross
>FEZ higher than System Shock 2 And yes, user, it's a joke, a shitty one.
Jason Roberts
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Jack Cox
Pc gamer is dead, user.
Isaac Moore
You guys do realise that the list is in no particular order and that a good game isn't ruined just because its made by a dick, right?
Kayden Rogers
You can chart the decline in quality of PCGamer by just comparing these lists year on year.
Henry Peterson
What good game?
Robert Powell
Did they just get these games from some Steam sale and list them in the order they found them in?
Bentley Smith
You do realize FEZ is an objectively shit game, right faggot?
Ryan Collins
FEZ is bad on an objective level.This isn't up for debate.
Joshua Cox
Context please, with pictures
They are still sucking EA dick?
>>>/reddit/ >>>/out/
Brayden Sanchez
Fez doesn't really have much to it.
ok then.
Austin Miller
I sure hope there aren't any Bethesda games on the list.
Kevin Flores
You know what, fuck you. I'm leaving this thread and I'm going to masturbate to 2D traps like a fucking faggot.
Michael Gray
But traps arent gay, user.
Well at least portal 2 is a complete game.
Aaron White
Homosexuality is a mental disorder
Lucas Powell
I'm not really sure they are talking about DP. That line about spaghetti does sound like York, but they said the release date was 2004.
Robert Collins
I wonder if they actually play video games anymore.
Brandon Cox
Mind if I join you user?
Ian Murphy
Are you a 2D trap?
Bentley Wilson
Why are they so autistic Holla Forums? Game reviews are not based on opinions, but on objective and realistic facts. Why would you ever let the 2-digit IQ community decide what is good or not?
Ryan Rodriguez
Hello gaffot
Hunter Powell
dumb people are easy to take money from
Owen Ortiz
I wonder how many petitions and ports they had to get
Blake Nguyen
Here's the entire list so you don't have to jump between a gorillion different pages to see how fucking retarded they are
1. The Witcher 3 2. Dark Souls 3. Dishonored 2 4. XCOM 2 5. Portal 2 6. MGSV 7. Mass Effect 2 8. Alien Isolation 9. NuDoom 10. Spelunky 11. Half Life 2 12. GTAV 13. Overwatch 14. Hitman (2016) 15. Rainbow Six Siege 16. Rocket League 17. BioShock 18. Wolfenstein: The New Order 19. Her Story — Not as good as a Marxist propaganda FMV "game" line — 20. Battlefield 1 21. FTL: Faster Than Light 22. Stardew Valley 23. Deus Ex 24. Nier Automata 25. PUBG 26. Skyrim 27. What Remains of Edith Finch 28. FNV 29. Forza Horizon 3 30. Diablo 3 31. Thief Gold 32. Bayonetta 33. Divinity: Original Sin Enhanced Edition 34. Thumper 35. Total War: Warhammer 36. Zero Escape: The Nonary Games 37. 80 Days 38. Heroes of the Storm 39. Kerbal Space Program 40. Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn 41. Stalker: Call of Pripyat 42. Vampire: The Masquerade—Bloodlines 43. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2 44. EVE Online 45. Hearthstone 46. Hollow Knight 47. Titanfall 2 48. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn 49. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive 50. Invisible, Inc 51. Left 4 Dead 2 52. Crusader Kings II 53. Tales from the Borderlands 54. Dota 2 55. ARMA 3 56. Company of Heroes 57. Morrowind 58. Civilization VI 59. World of Warcraft 60. Planescape: Torment 61. Undertale THERE IT IS I FUCKING KNEW IT 62. Ori and the Blind Forest 63. Max Payne 2 64. Pillars of Eternity 65. Burnout Paradise 66. Plants Vs Zombies 67. Fez 68. System Shock 2 69. N++ 70. Bastion 71. Valkyria Chronicles 72. Fallout 2 73. Ladykiller In A Bind — Not as good as a "lesbian" porno VN made by a tranny line — 74. VVVVV 75. Sunless Sea 76. Doom II 77. Overcooked 78. Nethack 79. Warhammer: End Times—Vermintide 80. Minecraft 81. Killing Floor 2 82. Cities: Skylines 83. Darkest Dungeon 84. Terraria 85. Rising Storm 86. Guild Wars 2 87. Kentucky Route Zero 88. Resident Evil 7 89. Euro Truck Simulator 2 90. Team Fortress 2 91. Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords 92. Nidhogg 93. Nuclear Throne 94. Spider & Web 95. Metro: Last Light 96. Grim Fandango Remastered 97. FEAR 98. Shadowrun: Dragonfall 99. Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun 100. Dwarf Fortress
Angel Thomas
Thanks user!
Dylan Mitchell
this is weird, i'm both pleased and enraged by that choice