ITS THAT TIME AGAIN! Yes its that time to be killed by quickling archers, get mauled by aliens that your little girl just gave birth to, preform quests to get shit as a birthday present, starve to death just before you reach an inn inside the town, get caught in the ether wind AGAIN, get crushed by boulders while playing a piano in a bar, nuke a town, or to bring an end.
>The game dropbox.com/sh/rjtmd247d6c6uma/ZCkmq9DI6J 1.70 is the most recent version of elona+. Elona is a game made by some jap named Noa. Elona plus is a mod of that game made by Ano, who I just realized while typing is just noa backward.
mega.nz/#!txBSyDxQ!CB-S175ZQvzF0DBAEVFbGLzIeTSjT2yfztIRfTH1qCk This brings about some quality of life changes and general improvements to the game as well as letting you customize things like pet AI, highly recommended. I believe you just extract the game to the elona main folder and launch from the coffee cup icon. Made by some qt named annabannana and more recently taking up the torch a guy named bloodyshade.
A jap roguelike with an overworld and no permadeath. Can be played a ton of different ways like being a farmer who grows magic items as well as veggies, a piano player, and there's some new necromancy shit that was added. There is a ton of shit to do in the game. Can be a bit grind heavy once you get settled though. Join in on the fun!
I'm probably forgetting something important, so have fun with that. if anyone wants to help me work on a better OP blese be my guest
Also I guess there is some fix for the server I haven't tested it myself.
Nolan Smith
I tried it back when it was first released, worked fine for me.
Dominic Wright
Nice, I'll have to try it out. Seeing the death messages was half the fun.
Ian Robinson
Are there any containers that hold shit in this game? My house is starting to get cluttered.
Also t-thanks
Elijah Hernandez
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Chase Walker
I'm pretty sure there are storage containers you can find/buy, but there's also deeds to storage houses you can get, which are just big old buildings to stash items into.
Brandon Stewart
Bookshelf, Fridge, Potion Rack, Bread Case.
Even with them all, storage in this game is severely insufficient due to the way item stacking works, or more accurately doesn't.
Ryder Morales
Anyone got item, face, and character spritesheets that they use since I wanna save some. Fucking rooms full of nerve, poison, or illusion hounds really piss me off
Nathaniel Rodriguez
I might post my shitty arekishi/aebafuti custom files when I set up my other PC.
Julian Kelly
Ayy thats pretty cool, it just increases the amount of harvest spots then?
Also I got a nice dragon scale drop. Well, nice enough considering its a staff. Ill use the fire protection to get through the fire tower, and it gives me a ice variable breath so that will help too.
Christian Thompson
I forgot how tough things can be when you're low level. Good thing I'm low enough that the death penalty doesn't apply.
Camden Baker
Fun fact: living weapons can spawn with any godly-level weapon attribute in the game!
Fun fact: "It brings an end" is a godly-level weapon attribute!
This piece of shit spawned on a big daddy and was quite the hassle to recover.
Connor Ross
I haven't played Elona in forever, should I make a new character or keep going with my fairy farmer?
Big daddies keep a distance don't they?
Cooper King
apparently not because halfway through the fucking floor ragnarok started and confused the fuck out of me
Isaac Price
Embrace the way of the whizzard and just nuke them
Asher Sanders
I copied the sprite for Monoe over from Yume Nikki if anyone wants to use it. I'd like for her to be taller but her sprite was a little tiny; it doesn't matter though. I just put it together because I had planned to use it since I have an Older Sister called "Monoe" in my party as her ability to teleport mirrored well into her Shadow Step.
Once I get a hand of the murderer I'm gonna make one for Monoko as they have Draw Shadow, and that's Shadow Step but in reverse. It not only fits her whole hand theme, but also adds a duality to Monoe which is cool since they're sisters.
Aiden Rodriguez
Well, nevermind.
The sprite is actually hilariously tiny compared to the other sprites to the point where you can't even take it seriously.
John Powell
I am not so sure about that one, user…
Samuel Smith
If you're done getting all the god pets/items/feats, don't forget to worship the best god Kumiromi. Although it's been nerfed, his sp regeneration passive ability is probably the most useful, especially later on when you get neat abilities.
Juan Stewart
I've seen people talking about this game well before the exodus. Somebody sell me on this game. I'm unemployed and need to fill my time.
Jayden Gutierrez
It is a roguelike with plenty to do. You can travel between towns and take quests from the job board; which can be to escort people to other towns, exterminate monsters, or farm work. You can make a farm or open a shop. Your house at first is a cave but with enough money, you can buy a palace. If you have any creative inclinations, you can remodel your property however you see fit. It is a charming game with lots of weird shit, like shooting magical dragons with laser guns or punching the shit out of big daddies, or in typical JRPG fashion, kill the gods themselves if you're strong enough. Do note that the game is primarily a roguelike dungeon crawler, so you won't find much enjoyment if you dislike that type of gameplay. Just imagine this game is like Nethack or DCSS but when you clear the dungeon, you can go home and sell off your loot, tend to your farm, check on your ranch, or marry the monster you dominated back in the dungeon.
Isaac Howard
I like Rogue-lites, but I've never actually played a rogue-like. Maybe I'll give it a shot. I see people share sprite sheets for the game. Are custom characters possible?
Parker Stewart
I've tried to play this game years ago, but I don't recall much of it, other than it was a pretty messy experience with lots of unexplained shit.
Right off the bat, this game doesn't seem to support widescreen, and as I'm typing this comment and pressing the Shift key while the game window is minimized, I'm actually quitting out of screens. Some of the text doesn't seem to fit the whole window. The Alias selection is pretty obnoxious, why is there a need to reroll everything in these games? Why can't I just type my own Alias, backstory, etc. and be done with it?
I also don't know the importance of gardening, cooking, and so on… Am I gimping myself if I avoid combat altogether and focus on roleplaying as a normal citizen? Is it effective to be a jack of all trades? I have so many questions, that I feel like not playing anymore, but at the same time I'm interested in finding a game where I can turn my own idiosyncratic roleplaying decisions into a very effective play style.
Robert Lee
That's my main problem with this game. I've tried so many times to get into it but the horrible UI and messiness of it always turns me off.
Josiah Reyes
Yeah you can alter your pets to be whatever you want. There is a picture that explains how but I don't have it saved unfortunately. Here is a link to the wiki instead. elona.wikia.com/wiki/Custom_NPC_sprite
You can be proficient at everything in the game provided you have the autism to grind it up. It's certainly not ideal but you can have your pets kill everything for you. Plot progression in this game revolves around dungeon crawling, so in a sense, yes you would be gimping yourself.
Camden Walker
Ok, so is Juere (race) + Predator (class) a good combo while trying to "live" as a normal person, like hunting animals and sell of my loot? I vaguely remember that you could build your own house and that it also has a bunch of customizable shit, which is why I want to explore more of those features instead of relying solely on combat to become an unstoppable god.
David Ward
Understandable. Like some roguelikes, remembering hotkeys and such can be a chore but you'll get used to it if you stick with it long enough and git gud. elona.wikia.com/wiki/Controls
Races have feats as well and in my opinion, Jueres and Yerles have the more worthless ones. elona.wikia.com/wiki/Feats
As for starting skills, it doesn't matter what you pick since at some point you can learn all of them anyway. If you really want to withdraw from combat altogether, I guess it doesn't really matter what you pick as long as you don't pick snail or something. You won't be overpowered for a long time, but it is good to consider fighting a little bit to earn money and to not get fucked every time you get jumped in the overworld. It's hard to be a normal person anyway in a world with flying bells, mechas, and dinosaurs so you won't really get the innawoods or classic medieval fantasy feel. Also you can't change your race but you can change your class, so don't worry much about the class feats. elona.wikia.com/wiki/Business_card
Brayden Anderson
Go Juere/Farmer for your first run, makes earning PP early game simple.
Daniel Gomez
It's probably considering the japaense letters that are each a syllable.
Dude, anything works in the end, even snail tourists can get there. I played as a Yeres Tourist, almost as if I ended up in the game world and altought I had a bumpy start, after I learned some skills I was already leading a good life. To be good at combat you'll need to train yourself in combat, no way around that. But you can become filthy rich whitout lifting a hand, by having good parterns, emergency items to avoid battling and merchanting your way to maximum shekels. If you want to be a "hunter", you'll be spending a lot of time going from town to town doing hunting quests to haul some rewards, that's enough to keep you trained in combat.
Z and X keys are amazing
Luke Kelly
Ok, my problem now is that a portion of the UI doesn't fit the whole screen. What do?
Ryan Morales
What are you talking about? You talking about the common thing where the tiles in the top row and rightmost column aren't visible? What resolution are you using? post a screenshot
Landon Myers
I prefer having my 20 hotkeys mapped instead of having to browse pages of spells just to get my buffs up. Playing a mage is work.
Blake Allen
Well, that too, and it was also pretty bad on the character creation menu because it seemed like some sentences were cut short. I'm using 1280x768, which seems to be the max resolution the game allows, and if I minimize it, then change the desktop resolution and switch back to the game, I get the effect on pic 04, so there's definitely stuff missing on the screen. And I think the windows are supposed to appear in the middle of the screen and not on the bottom right.
Gavin Taylor
I have never seen that happen before. Is this fullscreen? Does it look like that in windowed mode too?
Jaxon Powell
Also you can change the resolution in the config file but the maximum window height is 868 for some reason.
Carter Fisher
I just checked, windowed mode is definitely how things are supposed to look.
Andrew White
pastebin.com/vmW2qYkD pastebin.com/T2RCwdh8 Here's 4cuck's /jp/ and /rlg/ pastebins, I've been using these constantly as a new player but if we have any seasoned little girl-slavers I'd like some advice.
I'm not autistic enough to remember where my skills were at before I died but my potentials seem to be about the same. I took the Dimensional Move feat and I can get away from them most of the time but when I can't they rape my face. I always just try to escape rather than give up my shit because I'm afraid of starving to death from lack of food stores.
Jayden Torres
Not really punishing, until level 6 there are no penalties and after that you lose some attribute points, which isn't a huge deal, really. The more you have, the more bandits will appear. They are always somewhat your level, though, so, once you have more pets with equipment, they aren't a huge threat anymore. but yes, if you can't beat and don't want to give up you shit then just teleport and run. Every town has an Inn that sells cheap food that will set you at "bloated", so there really shouldn't be much of a problem. Also remember that leaves and nuts don't rot and they don't weigh much. Once you have a better grasp you'll likely want to make a different character anyway, if only to play as your heir. But if it's early on and kinda hard to unfuck (like ether disease) then you're better off rerolling, yeah.
Anthony Wilson
I think there are no penalties until level 5 or something like that. Some stats will be lowered and you'll drop some items. Be careful though, since dying in randomized maps like overworld tiles will lead to you losing items permanently. Give them what they want or run like hell. Try not to carry so much cargo that you slow down on the world map. There is a spell that does the exact same thing Dimensional Moves does, by the way. You can try to get your pet to "soulmate" then "make a gene" with it. In title screen, you can "Incarnate an adventurer" to reroll another character and all the items in your inventory will be placed in your heir chest. Before you do this, you can spam drink at wells to get wishes. Wish for shit like "seven league boots" or "happy bed".
Henry Harris
This is also why Farmer is good for first time players, you get the cooking skill and a portable cooking tool. Towns and world map locations have fruit trees you can bash to get fruit, once collected wither take them to a cooking device in town and cook them (drop meals for your pets too) if in field use your cooking tool. Food is important as it levels your attributes, depending on what you've eaten with better cooked meals offering higher gains.
Easton Reyes
Thanks, I have a few more questions actually.
Cooking devices should be in pubs right? I'm not a farmer but I haven't tried cooking at all on my last couple characters, all I've eaten were meals from innkeepers and api nuts
Easton Morris
They should be raised by both, I think. Vendors rarely have good stuff unless you invest in them, which is likely a bit in the future for you at the moment. But a couple things you'll always need, like a portable cooking tool. At the very least you need Cooking and Weight Lifting. Travelling is good, too, because of free experience. Obviously, you should get the skills related to your class, as fast as possible. You and your pet should have a full equipment set, if possible, and be around level 8. The puppy will respawn if you leave and re-enter, should he die. Mani isn't that good in general and speed bonus is always good, so I'd go with Lulwy but it isn't that important until you have high levels in Faith. Yeah it's that stove-looking thing opposite of the guestrooms. Use it when possible, higher quality tools produce better results. Here's a helpful chart, including trade routes, if you want to do that.
Josiah Howard
Just picked up cooking and I chose the Weight Lifting skill during character creation because I was sick of being burdened all the goddamn time. But where do I get the equipment if not for vendors? Random dungeons? or just settle for the not-so-good shit vendors sell?
Michael Rivera
So, i'm still relatively new to elona+ and always play it on and off. I'm currently level 10 and decent in spellcasting, as it's what i've been using forever. I can cast a few damaging spells reliably, even though one is starting to get lower than i'd like. However. I found a pretty good sword thats pretty fun to use. Should I stick solely to spellcasting or should I branch out and try and be good at both melee and spellcasting?
Isaiah Ramirez
For the time being, yeah. Slap some enhancements on it via the blacksmith and exchange later for better stuff, which you mostly find in dungeons. Vendors sometimes sell some good stuff but it gets very expensive, very quickly. You'll likely only do window-shopping because of that.
Buffs are cheap and pretty good, so I wouldn't refocus completely away from magic, either way. Magic besomes very strong later on and is always viable, even if you have to train the spells alot, while melee doesn't get as powerful as quickly but can absolutely ruin enemy mages' days. Personally, I would put some effort into branching out, mainly to have a back-up when mana runs out, but it's not absolutely necessary.
Noah Hernandez
Is possible to literally rape everyone and everything in this game?
Ethan Flores
Not without alcohol or the help of some aliens or heqet
Carson Martinez
try setting the res to:
windowW. "1280" screen width (min 800 dots) must be a multiple of 4 windowH. "712" screen height(min 600 dots) must be a multiple of 4
in the config (this fixes the top row/rightmost column thing but also sets the game in a weird windowed fullscreen mode that maybe will work)
It's really easy, carry a rod of teleportation(not minor) and use it immediately after the rogues attack, repeat until you're close to the edge of the map then just leave.
They changed Mani on elona+ a lot. For example, his special bonus is now 10% damage on your attacks, instead of gathering materials from traps. Dunno about the pet, I always say to getthe ones you like more. If you really want the strongest combat god pet, it's Itzpalt's.
just give them a bottle of beer and nail'em while they're drunk
Also, I've a question myself. What do character levels actually do? Do you just get those bonus skill points and nothing else changes?
Asher Walker
Character levels give you more mp and hp, along with bonus points. But you knew that already I think every 5 levels 'til you hit level 40 you can nab a new "Feat" from the feats tab as well.
Joshua Cooper
Play in window mode. If you are really autistic about background/alias, you can edit it in elosnack. The UI isn't perfect, but you can't have everything in a f2p indie project.
Gardening is very good since you can farm food that gives you stat boosts, and cooking makes food better in general. Roleplaying a normal citizen is fine, but there's only so much normal citizen stuff to do.
First starting out, you will be more effective if you focus on only a few skills, usually either gardener, performer, or a few combat skills and other stuff to make your life easier, but eventually you get enough platinum to learn all the skills. You will probably only want to focus on a few combat skills, but all life skills. No reason to level heavy armor if you are a mage for example.
Not much. You only lose a few stat points, and those are easy to get at low levels. Unless you are playing permadeath mode.
Always carry a few scrolls of teleport with you to escape bad situations.
Yes. Yes get all the skills. Gear from vendors usually isn't good aside from glass gear for speed early on. More important is stuff like blessed potions of restore body/spirit, lockpicks, leash, getting a farm, lightweight bed, etc. After that there isn't much that's really important to buy until you can afford to invest in a magic vendor to get shit like scrolls of wonder. (Actually, if you find a good piece of equipment, like the Unknown Shell or Seven League boots., it's definitely worth enhancing it to +10. Getting a full set of +10 gear makes you practically immune to melee damage in North Tyris.) Puppy cave lvl 4 has mages with magic dart which is probably what is killing you. Either get magic resistance or wait till you have more hp. If ever in doubt, go to yowyn and do farming quests to get more stats. Lulwy is nice but I never really used Mani much. Inns/Bakers almost always have a stove nearby. Yowyn and Lumiest don't have good cooking tools, but eventually you can buy your own, or steal a barbecue set from Party Time! quests.
One of these days I should update that shitty chart I made to include stuff like new spells.
Ryan Garcia
So, there's this adventurer who has some items I want, but he refuses to trade. If I hire him and intentionally let him die, I can loot his shit right?
Ah good, I was worrying I was being stupid using a sword instead of a longstaff like I was before. A few of my damaging spells are actually pretty good already and by far my best abilities as most can either 1 or 2 shot enemies but the rest, especially the higher level ones I have only a few charges for are much lower cast percentages since I can't practice without finding more books.
Cameron Phillips
I think so, but I also believe that they won't let you hire them until they like you, so prepare a lot of booze. Yeah, reliably practicing spells isn't easy until you join the Mages' Guild and getting there is a pain in the ass. If you didn't know already, start stockpiling those ancient tomes that look like spellbooks because you need to turn in a certain number of them to join the guild.
Jeremiah King
I just hired and killed a guy and he didn't drop anything. Also couldn't access his inventory.
This. If you want to consistently cast shit ever, joining the Mages' Guild is required. Make sure you keep your Literacy potential high. Speaking of potential, holy shit one training session increases it by 100% now.
Landon Cruz
I don't think so. Usually you want to stockpile scrolls of name/oracle for trading with adventurers. If you are strong enough, using a duel glove on the adventurer will force them to drop all miracle/godly/artifact equipment on death.
Otherwise I think you have to get them to join you as a pet, which iirc requires you to be stronger than them, have soulmate, and have hired them at least once.
Or steal, or get them killed by town vote.
Dominic Thompson
Nah, didn't pan out, unfortunately.
Yeah, just tried myself with the mage dude I hired. He died and left nothing when the monster killed him. It's too bad, he had some really good mage gear too.
David Morales
you also get more potential when resting now, which helps quite a bit till you get access to potions of potential.
Gabriel Gray
What does that do exactly?
Anthony Howard
Prevents your pets from running all over the map and keeps them within a couple tiles of you.
Joshua Hill
Does riding a horse actually make you faster or am I being placeboed?
Adrian White
Applying a leash to a pet makes it stay close to you.
Other useful items include: A stethoscope will let you see their HP. A whistle will wake up sleeping townspeople. Fire/Coldproof Blanket: Will protect your stuff from breath attacks. Torch: increases sight radius in dungeons a "gift": increases relationship with whoever you give it to. Chestnuts/Potions of poison: Cause bleed/poison damage which is useful for killing stuff like Bells. Fishing pole: needed to fish
Kayden Rodriguez
They changed the potential formula for the skills. Basically, you gain it much faster and in higher numberrs, but it also lowers faster too. In other words the value of skill potential is now lower. Other thing I noticed is that the lower your potential, the slower it gets to decrease it, so unless you're going to powerlevel a skill bu doing something specific, keeping them just above 100% seems the healthy/economical way to do it.
It does if the horse is actually faster than you. Higher levels in riding skill help, too.
Asher Torres
Sometimes. Your new speed is based on Mount Speed, both your and your mount's riding skill, and your mount's strength, as well as whether or not the mount is good for riding. Horses and little girls are good for riding, bells aren't.
Anthony Gray
Ah okay, cool. Thanks anons. Wasn't sure if he was making me faster though I think he is. He's a horse for reference. One I bought in yowen.
Brayden Howard
Check your speed before and after you get on. Also maybe feed him a blessed potion of restore body and give him some gear that boosts speed/strength and see if that helps.
Jackson Foster
tfw I have a rank 3000 magic store and I'm still not seeing potential potions often.
Interesting. Seems like it's easier to maintain other skills now since I don't have to dump all pp into my main weapon skill.
Daniel Miller
my last character had several magic stores in her palace before she got the bright idea of picking a fight with Jure.
Ryan Cox
How hard is it to make a store profitable? I don't want a farm but want to go full "capitalism, ho!" but am a bit nervous that I won't be able to afford the monthly payments especially if i'm not making much back.
Yeah, I get 26 extra speed it's just I don't "feel" faster, which I suppose makes sense since it's a turn based game. I kinda thought I was moving across the map quicker when mounted on her just found out my horse has a pussy , but wasn't sure if it actually worked.
Julian Anderson
If you raid dungeons a lot it will make a profit pretty fast, since equipment gets a huge penalty when you sell it to vendors but not from your store.
That said, you get better profits from just playing the game until you get really high level and start selling miracle level panties and such.
Henry Martin
wut
Farms aren't that profitable unless you really dedicate yourself to it, a ranch is good for getting lots of shit to sell with no effort, and a shop pays for itself very quickly if you load it up with merch constantly.
Tyler Hernandez
Shit son how did you deal with that? Just remembered I have Kumiromi wandering about and I'm deathly afraid one of my pet's AOE attack will make him go nuclear in my estate. Is there a way to kick him out? I don't want to move my house.
Joshua James
Jesus dude. I have one that's only around rank 200 and I get them pretty consistently. Maybe you're just having shit luck.
Charles Fisher
Sickass dragonscale rod dropped Fuck me man.
Nicholas Anderson
It was not my brightest idea. I was drunk and feeling tough since I was steamrolling every dungeon I ran through, and when I got her with a well wish, I decided the Sasumata I got wasn't enough and wanted a god heart to evolve my Cute Fairy. Needless to say it did not end well.
Brandon Martinez
nigger, use whatever you want, you'll get a good longsword in no time
Austin James
Nice. I'm gonna get that next then. I've been squirrelling away all my profits into those kitty jars so I don't accidentally get sniped and lose all my savings.
Why not use both? It's sorta what i'm doing.
Tyler Bennett
It's actually 5000. And yeah I guess I've always had shit luck in vidya. At least flying scrolls are more common now. One time in Fire Emblem 7 an enemy killed my lord with 4% chance to hit and 1% to crit. Fucker got the crit
Dylan Wilson
You're probably better off just getting a second shopkeeper rather than increasing the store rank at this point.
Noah Roberts
Does updating the game break save files? It's been a few months and this thread is making me want to hop back into it.
Jason Gutierrez
Sometimes but usually not.
Elijah White
just backup the save and try it
Henry Nelson
Yeah that makes more sense. Is there a limit to shop rank's benefits? Was kinda hoping I'd see scrolls of attribute and stacks of potential potions.
Nope, it automatically updates your file to latest version.
Jack Sanchez
I think so but I can't remember when it starts falling off. You should still see those scrolls/potions though.
Blake Johnson
Updating it worked fine, thanks boys.
Mason Cooper
feed me more elona pics
Joseph Brooks
Fuck it, why not.
Wyatt Kelly
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Kevin Robinson
What the fuck is up with imageposting? This is the 4th time and I still don't know if it'll work!
Julian King
Did anyone ever make a new server?
Isaiah Gonzalez
Well, almost.
Henry Richardson
Mmm daddy, thats the stuff.
see
Oliver Cruz
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Luis Jenkins
thank you user
Sebastian Thomas
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Andrew Long
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Grayson Perry
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Liam Campbell
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Chase Morales
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Landon Baker
wut a cute grill :^)
Joshua Turner
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Kevin Butler
Why, yes, I agree!
Lucas Long
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Jace Gonzalez
Didn't mean to doublepost.
Wyatt Ross
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Alexander Green
Last I have.
Michael Johnson
It was hard to get into it, but once i did, then this game became pure crack. I am a fairy pianist battling with a gun and magic and my allies are my little sister, a little girl, a robot and a flying snail. The snail and the robot are both gunners while the little sister and the little girl are both into melee.
Jaxson Miller
Wingsnail, wat do?
Jack Brooks
I finally found a use for Wingsnail. Drop him off at a ranch and he generates shades instead of more wingsnails since he is unique.
On another note, is anyone good at elosnack here? I need some help checking NPC bitflags.
Ryan Jackson
Another question, I always get overwhelmed with equipment for my pets. Is there any universally useful shit for for them? Because I just throw on what ever looks good.
Gabriel Walker
Pets don't get Ether diseases so ether equipment can be used safely by them. They also are uneffected by casting penalties so feel free to put heavy armour and shields on your mages.
Ethan Mitchell
If you use a mount, it needs strength/speed.
Otherwise pets need resists and sometimes CON/Life so they don't die. Float is also very good, especially on little girls. If ranged only, claws/shields in weapon slots. If melee only, claw/shield in ranged slot. Other than that, give them a good weapon and let them go nuts.
Brayden Williams
Now that I think of it, "maintains (stat)" is also good so you don't have to feed them all your blessed potions of restore body/spirit.
Owen Sanders
Glad a thread for this is up here, that circlejerk on cuckchan is obnoxious as hell.
Anyone have advice in creating a weapon strong enough to surpass Martial Arts?
Parker Smith
I'm starting to like this game
Lucas Adams
You can't, MA does the most damage in the game with enough levels. You could always try looking for mp absorption to cause negative mana in your enemies.
Lincoln Thomas
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Josiah Garcia
I'm trying to do this but it keeps replacing server.txt with the HTML for a 404 page. Not sure why it's doing that. I'm typing in the server names just as they appear in the picture, and they ping just fine and everything.
Aaron Wright
Shit nevermind
Blake Cruz
fuck, pets can use mines now?
Joshua Bennett
Do bronze coins do anything other than special meals?
Christian Hughes
the durkas in the dustbowl used that same tactic but they made the little ones hand the mine/grenade to enemy soldiers instead of jumping on it like a pogo stick
Jordan Walker
Cart size and shopkeeper training.
Kevin Rivera
So even if I made, say, a Godly living lightsaber fused then living weaponed for maximum potential with the best possible enhancements, it would still be outperformed by Martial Arts? And yes I know the more recent versions don't let you, speaking from "I didn't update to the most recent version specifically for this reason" perspective.
If I can't craft a god-sword to outperform endgame MA I don't see much of a point to even attempting it.
Dylan Sanders
MA, on top of having the biggest base damage also can hit 8 times per round. Weapons are better for debuffing such as stamina and mana absorption. Or the elemental damages which also debuff.
Lightsabers also have perfect piercing vs MA's 50% piercing.
Nathan Rodriguez
What about mutants with 20+ hands?
Logan Nguyen
They get accuracy penalties for multiwielding, not static, it's for each extra weapon they hold. They also get speed penalties for having too many equipment slots (13+)
Lincoln Lee
On the other hand 20 debuffing attacks per round vs 8 high damage attacks. Works best with stamina and mp absorption.
Chase Long
What is this 3-headed dog? I want one.
Michael Lewis
Ah okay, nice. I figured it out. I just need to do some random quests and then use my platinum coins for seminars and practices for mages. They make me better at my spells. Like school.
Anthony Sullivan
Leveling up spells lowers its potential so there are diminishing returns if you spam magic training. You get more spell potential by sleeping.
Dylan Fisher
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Elijah Rodriguez
Ah shit. That explains why my mag potential went from superb to bad.
Easton Davis
Attribute potentials are a bit harder to increase. You'll be able to find/make potions that raise them later on though. IF you teach your pets cooking, they can also make you breakfast if you wake up between 6-12 which increases potentials. Spells have separate potentials too which you can check in their menu. It's the percent number in parenthesis.
Christian Davis
I'll probably just use a save editor to return my mag potential back to its original quality and avoid the mage training from here on out.
Elijah Cooper
Mage training is a nice way to train Will, Per, and Mag since many spells train those attributes. When you have a lot of spells whose potentials are maxed, you might as well do it. Also don't worry about attribute potentials since it's pretty normal to have them low early on. They'll come back in time.
Jackson Robinson
Now you get both skill and attribute potential from sleeping.
Nah man, you improved your stats/skills. This is what happens every time a stat/skill levels up.
Caleb Wilson
what happens in the shelter stays in the shelter
Zachary Ward
How do you teach your pet skills? Also you raise their impress by letting them kill things and giving them engagement jewelry right?
John Phillips
Yes, but don't do that. It uses their inventory slots for gear that might not be as good as something you can find later and it tanks your relationship if you try to remove it later. Just give them one before asking for marriage out of principle :3
I also believe in some version there were gifts that you could give to people, dunno how those work.
Caleb Morris
I was just wondering because I wanna make my little girl my waifu but she hates me after dying so many times
Ryder Kelly
You "teach" pets skills with the gene engineering machine. You sacrifice a creature to teach one or two of it's skills and give one of it's extra limbs to another creature. Just be careful not to exceed 13 body parts on any character since that will give you a speed penalty. You can teach a pet special actions and spells with Custom's custom AI thing, but it takes a long time and there's huge prerequisites to teach them.
I my first partner, other than my doggo, was an adventurer I kept hiring and raising affection until she joined/married me. Just go partying up with a full set of gear on both of you and in time she'll like you, tell her wait in town if you think she is definitely going to die. Giving her engagement gear will work, but if you try to remove them later they'll destroy it and lose affection, so use them only when she's almost marryable and slowly remove them one by one when she reaches max afection again.
Jeremiah Reed
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Tyler Phillips
There are gift items you can find/buy but they're pretty expensive; they cost at least 100000 gold. You can buy them at a place called Larna, located at the bottom right of the world map. You can also make friendship tokens using the pot for fusion, but they only work if your pet is at "friend" or higher. Best thing to do when your pet hates you is to have it kill shit units in puppy cave or overworld. elona.wikia.com/wiki/Ambitious_Scientist This quest gives you the gene engineering machine. Make absolutely certain your pet won't get extra limbs unless you want it. Usually humanoid's default limb amount is 13.
Ryan Miller
what's the necromancer stuff that was added?
Adrian Garcia
Show me on this map which pathway I should take to completely explore the world.
Xavier Robinson
take this path and then you're about halfway done
Chase Collins
oops, missed the bottom there. whatever
Jordan Cruz
Okay, well, can you show me on here where to stick my dick?
Aiden Peterson
Doesn't work that way. Going from one side of the map to the other is easy, it ain't like a traditional RPG with tiered zones that you must grind before you can take on.
Instead, there are several cities around that you travel and visit for their services and there are random dungeons all over the world. Their difficulty is tied to your character (level or fame, can't remenber) and as you power through them, others will show up that are much harder, every month.
There are a few static dungeons for quests or specific bosses and you can build a few locations like a museum or your own shop too.
It's not a game about clearing a story while you explore the world. It's about enjoying your time with your waifu as you travel around the world collecting pets, equipment, and building your house.
There's only the Void there which would be the other half you mentioned :D
Bentley Edwards
There was some scythe added a while back called the Necromantis that allows you to create special zombies or something. Not too sure on how it works.
There's no ideal path. Some of the places are quest related or have powerful midgame bosses.
Lucas Kelly
you already posted it
Justin Kelly
If you mean the coffins, you can check the graveyard for a key that lets you store special coffins inside and use several powers that revolve around summoning the dead.
You can craft coffins with Pot of Fusion of creatures that you summon (their zombie version, though) and control with the key that acts as storage for the coffins. They don't count as pets and if killed, they go back to the coffin and you can summon them a day later.
Get a pet. Any pet. Raise her relationship up considerably. Get 2 Sheep Beds, they often show up for sale. Give one to your pet, keep the other (not sure you need one, but it's the best bed to carry around anyway) Sleep with that pet near you and you may trigger a "night event" if the relationship is strong enough. You can also use the Special Action Squeeze to try and force it, which has lower relationship needed.
Then you get a minigame with some options regarding how you fug, easy enough. When you wake up, there's Blood of X, X being whatever you fugged. The japanese version implies it's "fluids" instead, which changes the meaning but whatever.
Jackson King
Wait, you have to give the pet a bed for them to have funtime with them?
Ethan Sanders
where can i find a pot of fusion?
Parker Murphy
You find them randomly in dungeons.
Camden Nguyen
tool shops
Brayden Carter
How does sprite works?
Dylan Morgan
I got one in a shop.
I did a dungeon that was close to level. I feel like a big boy right now.
Cameron Kelly
A Sheep Bed. It's a specific item that barely weights anything, don't worry.
You replace files in the game's folder with your choice.
Jose Lopez
You can just squeeze them while in bed if your impress is high enough.
Jayden Reyes
I love the custom AI settings. Not sure if "Ally" includes "Self" or "Player", so I have to be a little redundant just to be sure, but this makes for a pretty great healing routine to keep my other pets alive. Sticking that "If Mana
I think the custom ai is hilariously overpowered. You can essentially make them as good as the player character, probably even stronger because how easy it is for them to improve their skills.
Thomas Bennett
The main problem with it is that you can teach pets skills/spells that they shouldn't have. They then can cast it at will. This doesn't work very well because the game was never designed for this so the pets only have a small chance to use their own skills/spells, then with custom the pets don't have the same limitations as the player to cast skills/spells and just spam it, they have no stamina points or spell stocks, for example(stocks aren't much of a problem anyway). It's hillarious to teach all your melee pets shadow step then having them teleporting everywhere, killing shit before the ranged fighters can even get a chance to shoot them. Hell if I'm gonna let my gunner/archer pets try to punch mobs, tough. A better, less deep and flexible but much more balanced way of customize AI would be having some presets (gunner, melee, mage, support, whatever) that act as a base for the pets actions then they use their unique shit like special actions over that.
Easton Sanders
They attack other creatures, they are neutral to you until you attack them.
Alexander Ortiz
According to the wiki, BDs "never willingly come to melee range" since they have guns. which is what I meant by keeping a distance. Maybe if they didn't spawn with a gun then they attack with melee, or that AI only applies against players.
Noah Williams
How confusing
Elijah Kelly
Holy shit, well I'm lvl 8 with pretty decent gear and nothing in the Puppy Cave is giving me that hard of a time but HOW THE FUCK DO I KEEP THIS FUCKING DOG ALIVE GODDAMN
Even keeping it on a leash doesn't help, it just attacks anything close to it. You'd think the little fucker would just walk away
Thomas Williams
Use scroll of return or escape. If you can read them at all.
Nolan White
You can bring back your little girl, only need to pay a very small amount of gold to one of the npcs in the bars. Only penalty for a companion/pet dying is that their relationship towards you decreases a little.
Also, you can change her equipment too. Get her to tank for you a little at the start as you get a better grasp on what you can kill and what will kill you.
Christopher Price
It is also perfectly legal to kill bards. If npcs can stone you to death for being shit at playing instruments, then so can you. Some people even recommend it for the low low chance of getting valuable but rare instruments.
Gabriel Murphy
This is what the wiki says, although I know this might be innacurate. Is it? Have you used a scroll of escape and brought the dog with you? I have 3 scrolls of escape but none of return
Ryan Brooks
Revive her immediatelly, your dps on very early game is very low without the first pet.
Cooper Edwards
I think there was a way to escape with magic or a scroll but it reduced karma by a lot. I could be wrong. Use scrolls of magic mapping maybe to find the exit faster? or hope that your pets will tank for you AND the dog.
Benjamin Bailey
Oh. Just go fast to stairs or kill everything on floors minus non-hostile npc then. It was a rather long time, when I made that quest. I think I was a little over-leveled too.
William Perry
As the others said, revive her at the bartender, give her spare equipment, and she'll fuck everybody up for you.
I don't remember if this works. It might fail the quest, I don't know.
You can give the dog spare equipment. 2 pairs of shoes at least, maybe something else. This will help it tank hits and survive. Just remember to take your equipment back before you hand him in for the quest or you'll lose your stuff. Use the leash, and try to find a stethoscope so you can see if it's hurt.
Christian Sanchez
When you start the game it seems like a quest that you are meant to do first and easy but its really not. Its a place you slowly and carefully get accostumed to. Entire floors being regenerated and enemies respawning everytime you enter, and eventually you go deep enough but then you realize as you are trying to leave: Aw fuck i need to find the stairs AGAIN to get out, with MORE enemies.
It is a good place still, with how random spawns for items AND enemies are you always have a place to go to farm whatever spawns and see if you get a lucky find
Owen Jones
Same here but I'm chalking it up to my own retardation at knowing the games controls and mechanics so far. I tried a wizard which was probably a terrible fucking idea since I have no idea how magic even works yet.
Probably do something simpler like a warrior next time I fire it up.
Isaac Watson
Finally made it the fuck outta there, holy shit
Jose Gomez
Also does anybody else use the bandit cave in Vernis to store shit? Anyone know if there's a limit to how much shit you can drop in there like there is in your house?
Gabriel Hughes
Aye. Majority of my furniture, one god statue and five skillbooks come from there. Even two happy beds from cupids.
Do not care for spells at beginning. Melee and ranged attacks will be enough. Unless you meet ghosts, demons etc.
Kevin Brown
yeah that's babby's first storage house (there is a limit, same thing in storage houses you will buy later)
Jackson Harris
I dunno, at least in the run I've got going ghosts went down pretty quick to my machine gun
Colton Miller
Say that after you meet nymph or shade.
Benjamin Reed
What's the first building a new player should be saving up for? Like, should I be looking to get a new home first or a ranch or something?
Haven't come across those but I was talking about the early game
Jackson Lopez
Try getting a skill on the start traits like dragon breath for something simple to start. Magic and skills work like this: You usually get skill from trainers or you just learn them when filling requirements for them (level up hand to hand enough and you learn GRENADE PUNCH for example)
Magic is more complicated. You learn spells from reading SPELLBOOKS or having a wizard appear in your dreams and be say "aw shit nigga wrong dream. Here have a spell kbye" To read spellbooks you might need to train your LITERATURE skill by reading easy spellbooks. Because you can FAIL at reading spellbooks if its a very advanced spell, and failing to READ a book will have consequences such as:
Jace Green
Museum is a good idea since you'll get an actual use for all those cards and figurines.
Hudson Bailey
Home upgrade is up to you, I personally never bother to. Ranches are slow not worth it early game, farms can be good if you have okay cooking and farming ~50, cooked food sells for quite a bit. Storage can wait till Vernis fills up, Museum will give you some income when stuffed with cards and statues, shop would be a really good choice if you can spare a proper shopkeeper pet.
Connor Murphy
I think museum is only worth it if you have a LOT of cards and statues, without many duplicates. Otherwise the taxes from it leave you in red numbers.
Andrew Sanders
The Exile's multi cast ONLY applies to her starter spells, Magic Dart, Nether Arrow, and Dark Eye. They cast each THREE times in a turn, but only for 50% normal damage. Once you start giving it different spells it becomes no better (and possibly much worse) than any other caster pet you can find.
As for others, I tried Shadowstep on my melee pet. It had a tendency to teleport into the middle of a room of mobs that was till out of LOS for me and then instantly die, so I removed that ability from its AI. I think pets do have some kind of stamina limitation though. I've seen a lot of mentions in the Wiki that "This ability will immediately make your pet VERY tired". I'm not entirely sure how it works though, because there doesn't seem to be a hard limit on their usage either. Maybe they just get the -60% speed penalty and keep using the ability regardless.
I think the idea of properly trained pets potentially being just as good as the player character is perfectly fine. Their AI does still have some limitations though, so there will always be things humans can do that they just can't.
Bentley Harris
Higher level spells require MORE mana, not less. For instance, Lightning Bolt costs 10 MP at level 1, at my current level 85 it costs 43 MP. I can't say whether the same is true about spell stocks
It's not that big a deal though. It's pretty much impossible for me to run out of MP unless I'm spamming Dominate or Wish (both cost around 400). That's partly thanks to Ehekatl's passive that randomizes spell costs. Every spell costs between 1 and whatever it's listed cost is, so on average lightning bolt only uses 21, and I have almost 3000mp and a huge amount of Meditation skill as well.
Jose Rodriguez
oh my bad, I never run out of mana either so i just assumed. im very situational with my spell usage too, most of the time its faster to just let my wife and my demon cat kill things for me while i just slow them and blind them and make the vomit so they cant escape
Oliver Thomas
try setting the puppy to defensive mode.
a farm or a ranch, depending on whether you have seeds, or a pet you wanna breed.
Zachary Adams
It's somewhat of a trade off I agree, but the taxes really aren't that much and you can fill it over time. Party time quests are good for filling it with named statues/cards, the loot and cooked corpses are a nice income supplement to boot.
Hudson Clark
Museum isn't really worth the effort if you are just considering it an income source. At max rank it makes 30k. That's plenty of profit, but by the time you get it that high you will probably be able to earn millions every month.
Colton Walker
I was talking about buffs and such, complimenting their innate spells, and of course, teaching a spellcaster pet endgame spells it shouldn't know is even more powerful than their innate spells.
Shadowstep just worked for me just don't put it in squishy pets and make sure there isnt only one melee fighter diving in.
I heard Stamina using special actions have a different resource that is used independly for each specuial action, it's not infinite, but still much better compared to stamina.
I like the idea of pets being just as good as the player too, and messing with custom AI is fun, but the game just isn't balanced for that. If only you couldn't teach them shit and could actually use the shit they already have, then It'd be more of an useful tool rather than a power tool.
Kayden Taylor
You can buy most of those abilities with AP (AP is a + feature, custom AI is a Custom feature). You could argue that being able to get them "for free" instead of paying AP is imbalanced, but teaching a pet an ability requires that pet to have very high levels in the related attribute, so while it is "free" you still can't get it until about the same point or later in game.
Sebastian Adams
My bad, I didn't read it was a long sword. Odd. I wonder if it might have had it in its throw slot. Which would be doubly odd.
Holy shit why did I completely forget about that passive. I need to make Eheketal my final God since I believe the bonus from Izpalt becomes moot with enough gear midgame, but I struggle to stay topped off near then.
Read that wiki, Museum is really not a great way to make money until you start being able to rake in high level cards and statues, as the lower level monsters don't make that much of a difference.
Shop is viable if you can get yourself a master thief ( easy with high magic device and a rod of domination or an appropriate monster ball and scumming) And just dump everything you don't want into a big pile (doesn't need to be separate) after clearing a dungeon. Until you get that thief, you won't make much money.
Getting a better house absolutely increases your profit, because while your rent is higher, your rank cap is higher, you can hire more servants, you can store more items (for said rank) I usually stop at cottage because lazy.
Jason Nguyen
Don't worry about getting a master thief for your shop, just grab anything with ranks in Negotiation. You can pay Bronze coins to increase your shopkeepers neg/cha potentials 200% each, and they train VERY fast, especially early on. If you get a shop running ASAP your shopkeeper will probably have double the negotiation and you will have already made millions of GP from the shop, by the time you can recruit a master thief.
Equipment items are best in the shop, because the shopkeeper does NOT suffer the additional 95% sell price penalty that players do for those items. You can change the shop type to Blacksmith Shop, which raises the sell values even further and increases the chances of items being sold. Food shops are also pretty good because they sell rotten food at full value, but that's only worthwhile if you are leveling cooking. There's nothing stopping you from changing your shop type every time you visit, and you can still dump your food there while it's still a blacksmith, waiting to switch over after it collects.
As for the house and museum, you can pretty much just ignore the income. By the time you can afford a palace for 2 million gp you really don't care about the 7200 per month cost. Same for the museum, by the time you have a bunch of high-end figures you really aren't going to care about the (max) 30k income. That will come so late in the game you wouldn't even shit for less than a million. The museum is primarily "for fun", because you like showing off your collection, and the House is primarily for decorating and various services from the hireable servants. On that note, I very much recommend getting your Palace ASAP, mainly because every time you upgrade every single item you have in the house gets put into one big pile and you have to decorate all over again. If all you want is storage use a storage house or a dungeon (dungeons are tax free but much more expensive)
James Foster
Note: When I said use a dungeon for storage, I meant the dungeon deed building. Do NOT drop your items in some random dungeon unless you know exactly what you are doing.
Benjamin Murphy
fuck me I have no charisma and need more pets. Whats fucking me over is my hand of dead and pudit in the ranch they have
Juan Watson
The way NPC AI works, they have 2 things. 1st is a % chance to move into range or % chance to attack, the 2nd is a preferred distance. If for some reason a Big Daddy decides to attack when in melee range, it will most likely use its melee weapon.
House income is actually pretty nice early on, though not really because of deeds. Just drop 10 diamonds or other high value items, and you'll get a pretty good rank, then you get a pretty good salary per month from it.
Chase Mitchell
If you get rid of the breeder you can still keep all of the other ranch residents with no problems. You can use this to your advantage if you want the ranch for eggs and milk, or if you want to "store" the other creatures and maybe reactivate the ranch later.
If you want to get rid of a pet and keep it for later, but you aren't in act 2 and can't buy the discarded ranch yet, give them to the doujou. It costs 10k per pet, but works basically the same.
Jayden Parker
eggs and milk still give the same properties as the meat right? If thats the case then yeah, I just get rid of the fucker.
Adrian Reed
Different. Eggs train perception, will and charisma. Meat trains strength and constitution and a very little charisma.
Also, if you want to quickly level Charisma, get the investing skill and find something that you can invest 50 cheaply. That should give you at least a couple ranks instantly.
Kevin Jenkins
Can you sleep at your home cave?
Aiden Lopez
You can sleep ANYWHERE as long as you have a bed or appropriate bed-like object. It can be in your inventory or on the ground (which includes beds you don't own).
Note the quality of the bed determines how much it improves your attribute potentials, with a "Happy Bed" being the best.
Ryder Rogers
What about those straw piles?
Lincoln Martin
nope
Ryan James
How do I cure a piece of equipment with the [Scary] effect? Is there an NPC in the starting town?
Isaac Martinez
[scary] is unidentified cursed. There's an NPC to remove curses in the starting town yes, bottom left. Only works on equipped items though, shit in your inventory is not affected.
Joseph Foster
U sure? Im pretty sure it does all of the shit.
Luis Wood
Only equipped, including items equipped to pets.
The only way to uncurse something that isn't or can't be equipped is to dip it in a blessed bottle of water, which should make it blessed instead.
Luis Robinson
Wew laddies, tower of fire down, you know what that means! Time for cooking with bosses!
Eli Edwards
How do I play as any race ever, including monsters?
Logan Allen
in config.txt set extraRace to 1
James Rogers
Cool. What about more classes?
Carter Nguyen
I just discovered you can use Summon Monster to murder Tourists and farm their wallets for +5 karma each. This makes big daddy farming WAY easier for me.
I should probably go get the secret treasure of the wicked, if only to ditch the innocent feat that increases karma penalties
Chase Roberts
Fuck, that nigger in the crypt is stopping me, what do.
Lucas Long
Actually wait. That just gave me 5 other races. Where's the shit like Hermit Crab?
Joshua Jones
Have you considered that there is more than 1 page of races?
Lincoln Hall
For those that care; I mass-downloaded all files from elonaup #!N14WDC4Y!13rplMK5hcjJsjar8-TYZ6NJKWhI2sgqxVshvq7KOFA
Brody Jenkins
Thanks user. There is some good stuff in there for those who have the autism to sort through it all
Benjamin Baker
Don't wanna sound too much like a retard, but how do I put all of this in my game?
Christian Gonzalez
go to palmia and sleep in the king's bed. Don't worry he's fine with it.
Nathan Howard
One of the most shocking things I've ever seen in terms of "let me rape your common sense, dude" was watching my brother playing Elona, reaching Palmia and DIGGING into the wall to the royal bedroom to sleep inside. I asked him "what the fuck, why didn't you go around?" and he just replied with "it's faster this way, why?"
Then I started imagining the king in his throne room, talking with some nobles and suddendly hearing the sound of falling rubble. He goes to check up on his room and finds some "hero" laying on his bed fast asleep surrounded by a little girl, a horse and an angel, all 3 bound to him with leashes.
And then he sights, goes back to the nobles and advising on how to run the kingdom as if that event happened once a week or something.
David Thompson
Do some modding, soon enough you'l understand how it all works. It's not rocketscience user. Just make a backup of all the vanilla files in case you fuck up.
I never got this far on the game, and holy shit this is much better balanced than the custom AI thing. Only a few specific special actions/spells are available to be learned and you can actually change their basic AI to use more ranged attacks and shit without making them absolutely ignore their original AI.
Heavy corpses like corgon's are useful to gain loads of favor from your god, since favor gained from corspes are solely dependant on their weight(roten ones are always worth 1 favor). You save it for when you find an unclaimed altar and hit that 5x conversion bonus and you're suddenly swimming in god pussy.
Nathaniel Gray
I picked up this picture a while back, maybe it'll help with the sprite customization shit.
Also I've read in one of the pastebins that you can create a gene with a soulmate and that's how you "incarnate" a new character. How is this done? Is the gene machine involved?
Ryan Edwards
disregard this, I ended up finding the right article on the wiki
Robert Kelly
if there's anyone good at modding, I'd literally pay for a mod that increases max inventory size, especially if it was done in a way that didn't require a full rewrite every patch.
I can't remember if Corgon's corpse did anything special, but I remember a few of the quest boss corpses gave unique effects like a guaranteed resistance or stat boost or something.
Kevin Walker
Bosses are for beating and eating. I like my big sister god, but this corpse is mine
Xavier Russell
Oh cool didn't know we had elona threads here
Christian Perry
roguelikes are the Dark Souls of videogame controls get proficient
Ethan Walker
How do you write in your own alias? Instead of having to roll one?
James Moore
I mean, I don't see why you'd want to.
Josiah Brown
Man, I wish elona was open-source, it'd be a really fun game to mod. Well, it would probably have to be ported over into a decent language first.
Xavier Carter
Corpse favor is capped at 10s, anything over that is wasted.
It really isn't hard to max favor for any of the gods other than maybe mani. Tip for ehekatl if you don't want to take up fishing, the first fusion recipe produces dead fish and three other useless items. Send those other outputs back as inputs and you can effectively turn any item into a dead fish to sacrifice. I personally use music tickets since ill never miss a couple hundred of those
Jace Butler
Speaking of music tickets, if you want to do party time quests but can't be arsed to level performer, you can use preaching instead, which is also nice for training faith. The rewards are kind of shit that way, but party time quests are a good way to farm stardust and karma. The two tutorial fucks show up regular and always drop thier unique weapon
James Edwards
Mani is really easy to max since the Cyber Dome has 2 gun shops in it. Lulwy Izpatl and Yacatect are all harder imo since they don't have a consistent shop you can buy cheaply from right next to an altar.
Tho I guess lulwy is easier now that ammo works too.
Modding this shit is pretty easy also fun. Currently working on unteralterbach edits for my little girl army. Complete with sprites and tone files. Not very good at sprite work though…
Brayden Campbell
How do you change it in elosnack? I thought the 200 limit was hardcoded?
Jayden Parker
I haven't tried it myself..
Look under gdata.s1 > Cargo weight, Hell, you could probably do this with cheatengine.
Cheating is for losers though~
Brody James
Cargo weight is just trade goods though. I don't want infinite trade goods, I just don't want to have to rearrange my inventory after every dungeon run because i grabbed 50 types of books with B/U/C variations that don't stack right.
Zachary Gomez
Yeah you can just buy arrows and bolts in the general stores in palmia and take them straight to the altar there. Either of them though tend to be expensive. If you want to get your favor up quick early in the game you are going to be grinding the puppy cave for a while.
I typically don't even grab books in my dungeon runs. I do check for ancient books for mage guild points, but i'd rather just buy spellbooks from the spell writer if I need them at all. My "living mana battery" ether disease means that I have more spell stock than I will ever use for the spells I use most, namely lightning bolt.
Bentley Reed
So I got my shop, and left the mad doctor in charge of sales and I am making no money. He's selling things for 30 gold or 5 gold apiece, rather than the significantly higher numbers I expected. There's no way this shop is gonna pay for itself anytime soon. I've been running people to and fro cities nonstop to make up for it.
David Price
What are you selling? My shop makes around 500k per dungeon run, even running the puppy cave earns me around 100-200k by the time I hit overweight. I only sell equipment items.
Carter Nelson
Even with 1 Negotiation, he should still be selling equipment items for around 20 times what you could sell them for yourself.
Zachary Edwards
Shit, I should probably dump all the loot I keep getting into there
Brandon Price
Mostly anything I find in dungeons I dont use. Deeds of heirship, weapons,armor, high value potions, etc. The only scrolls i've really been saving are oracle scrolls.
Whats more important, charisma or negotiation when it comes to shopkeepers? Cause my mad doctor has 19 cha, but no negotiation, but my winged snail has 10 charisma and 10 negotiation.
Juan Martinez
Charisma determines the number of clients, Negotiation determines the sell value.
It's absolutely imperative that the shopekeeper have at least 1 rank in Negotiation. From there, he will train it by operating the shop, just spend bronze coins at the register to keep his potential high.
Jack Morales
Ah, so that explains the shit sales. He has no negotiation. I'll replace him with the snail. Thanks user.
Angel Morales
The value scale is logarithmic btw. With 1 negotiation, you get roughly 5% of the value (you get 0.5% when selling equipment yourself). At 8 that increases to 10%, 20% at 40, 30% at 98, and 50% at 288.
For nonequipment items you get 10% value by default, so until trained (slightly) you can actually end up getting less from the shop.
Easton Scott
Assuming I have rods of silence, how can I make sure they stay effective against him?
Daniel Green
Magic device skill I guess. What are you playing anyway?
John Powell
WARRIOR BECAUSE *MAGIC IS FOR PUSSIES
*its not actually for pussies
Austin Cook
How do I tame a dragon child?
James Fisher
Walking into things all day sure must be fun. Good news is that Martial Arts competes with magic for top damage endgame due to its runaway scaling. Note that this only applies with completely empty hands, you lose the bonus attacks from the MA skill if you wield claws or shields.
I've seen Lightning bolts hit for over 10k, and my spell level isn't even up to 100 yet (cap is 2000)
Thomas Bennett
How does work anyways? It doesn't seem to do anything for me.
Robert Rivera
With the Dominate spell/rod or a monster ball (requires getting it to
Jose Davis
Don't forget to element scar and water bolt. Shit amplifies damage so well. Ice and lightning are truly the best element. Damage multiplier for wet status is higher for ice though
Michael Diaz
I don't see anything on the wiki saying that Ice benefits from Wet, only Lightning. Regardless, how the hell do you think I was hitting for 10k, and why else would I be using Lightning, specifically?
Aiden James
A lot of people talk about using weapons like staff of insanity or element staff to apply debuffs, so is it still worth it to level and use my own debuff spells? Being able to cast them from a safe distance as an elea with light armor is nice, and my ele scar lasts about 150 turns on normal enemies, while my pet's nightmare lasts over 200.
I use guns, shield, fire breath, and Im bretty good at gardening. Parry is pretty awesome as it will apply the blind debuff. Im trying to get my magic device skill up. Guess I'll try chucking potions at him, I have some silence ones Ive been saving. Alternatively I wonder if getting him really drunk would help?
Kayden Morgan
I'm pretty sure leveling those spells up will be much better than equipment casts, especially when you have max "it enhances your spells" enchantment from your gear.
William Fisher
Damn. Well it's far too late to switch. I really should work on Water Bolt though, or work on giving it to a pet at least. As is I generally don't bother with it, so when I do need it the Wet gets resisted.
Ayden White
I tested it out on a debug file on an enemy with slight resistance on Ice and Lightning and with Wet status and no element scar, Ice Bolt was doing around 12000-15000 and Lightning around 9000-10000 both level 330. It's not too much of a loss. At least you can't carelessly destroy valuable potions like I do sometimes.
Hunter Smith
That's pretty significant at 30-50% over lightning
Kayden Cox
Potions don't really matter to me anyway with the exception maybe of bottles of water. The problem is that my Ice bolt is level 20, my lightning bolt is level 97. In the time it would take to close that gap I would have gotten lightning up to 120 easy.
Carson Sanders
I hired an adventured to help tank him as well as chucked potions at him. Now its time to eat his corpse, which I'm sure is a terrible idea. But I'm a man, and men finish what they start.
Carson Butler
>YOUR HANDS ARE SWEATING POISON
Benjamin Sanders
Cure your damn ether mutations. Although Living Mana Battery is fucking amazing on a mage character
Jayden Edwards
Does eating creatures train potential for attributes or just increases attributes?
Chase Torres
Does anybody know what a royal chip does, if anything?
I would also like to know this
Noah Jones
It straight increases them. Of course, cooked foods are better, and Herbed foods are even better than that.
A few points of interest: Raw meat grants 17 str exp, 24 con, and 3 cha. Steak (max tier cooked meat) grants 76, 108, 13 to those same attributes. Rare herbs such as Morgia add over 1000 exp to each of 2 stats. Using the pot of fusion recipie "herb in" causes the resultant food to add over 1000 exp to ALL stats.
Isaiah Phillips
It's a furniture item (with a quality of "royal"). It serves no purpose except to be used for decoration in your house. Better furniture items increase your house rank more.
Mason Hill
Royal is a random value modifier. Items with these modifiers cost/sell for more and certain items have increased effects (gifts most notably). It seems that even "bad" modifiers like "uncomfy" or "shoddy" still increase the value over the base unmodified version.
A Chip is just a furniture item. Notable only for being a preferred sacrifice for Mani.
Aaron Cox
Oh so herbs train potential while food just gives normal training experience.
Henry Bailey
No? Herbs just grant shitloads of training experience, so much so that regular food becomes pretty irrelevant if you have enough herbs.
Jordan King
BTW, when I say "all attributes", that includes speed, at least for pets. I've never seen my own speed or luck increase when eating herbed food but it could be my speed potential is just too low to notice.
Jose Diaz
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David Diaz
Herbs do train potential a little bit, actually.
Brayden Green
Herbed food also increases the potential of all your stats by a small amount. Only like 1 or 2 points though.
Most likely the reason you don't see it with speed is that your speed stat is probably much higher than your other stats. Don't quote me on this, but the formula stat xp is something like XP=sxp*potential/stat where sxp is the amount that a food or use of skill gives you.
Joshua Cooper
Hey remind me, how do i get pets to use their gauge release abilities? Mine havent been using them even with their bars filled and when they really need it. Am i supposed to tell them something or what
Mason James
Actually no, my base Magic and Learning are both higher than my base Speed right now (179/170 vs 163). I could have just missed it, it raises my attributes far less frequently than it does my pets.
William Walker
Actually nevermind. I think it may be because their directives are set as intercept instead of full offensive. When i changed it, they used it.
Isaac Adams
Pets also get 10x the stats from food I think. Not sure if only herb or all food.
Lucas Johnson
I'm trying to decide what to use for my last pet.
Currently I have a Seminar Mascot and a Bell of Emergency in melee, an Exile and a Defender for magic, and a Black Angel and fully evolved dragon child primarily as ranged. I don't really like the Dragon though, horrible speed. I COULD train him up eventually but it will be a long, slow road.
I'm considering dropping the dragon and grabbing a either a Xeren auto tank or a Xeren Electric tank. I lose the boost special action, but gain double to triple the speed. The Auto Tank can be evolved, gaining the "Fire a Volley" action, but has much lower stats (especially speed) than the electric tank. Of course, the lower something's speed, the better it is at gaining AP. I originally took the Dragon because it has the Megid Flame special action, but even with custom AI I found that to be extremely unreliable, also annoying due to the animation time.
No matter what I choose, it will be using The
Hudson Price
Why would you do this to what is clearly a Martial Arts pet?
Andrew Jackson
Funny that. I got a cure corruption potion form marriage and quaffed it. It was cursed.
Brandon Powell
Such is married life
Colton Wright
It's too slow to EVER get to melee range before everything is dead (or I am). If I want it to earn AP to EVENTUALLY be useful, it's going to have to start as ranged. Plus I have 2 better melee pets.
Zachary Russell
madman
Landon Collins
Stardust is a super neat addition What is the deal with Praise?
Kevin Sullivan
Didn't they use to change into random godly items? I think I'd prefer that, although upgrading everything to +15 will be nice eventually.
If you want to farm stardust, do Party Time quests. Larnneire and Lomias both show up extremely often, are easy to kill, and drop their artifact weapons guaranteed. Some other unique NPCs with artifact weapons also show up later in the game as well.
As for praise, that's what is required to be a part of the town management. The feature is pretty unfinished at that though.
Landon Long
The version I played had them not drop at all if one already existed
Jaxson Baker
How do I get herb seeds?
Leo Collins
Do the harvesting quests in Yowyn give those out? All I know is you'll always get seeds from finishing them, but I never paid much attention to what kind.
Angel Parker
Done a ton of those and got none
Nolan Ramirez
Not when you pick up rods of domination and wish. Two at same time.
They are kind of hard to get. Farming quests always give random kind of seeds.
Gabriel Sanders
Shops doing better now that the crazy scientist isnt trying to sell my gadgets. I've also invested in my snails salesman potential, which im hoping didn't just lose me 20k for nothing.
I think your wife might want you dead.
I know I find seeds a bunch in the puppy dungeon.
Luis Sanchez
You fucking what
Connor Robinson
Did you checked map to find his remains and looted it afterwards?
Noah Foster
Any updated version of Bobblehead sprite sheet? Also, can't find /rlg/ superior item pack & anti-eyesore therapy..
Mason Lewis
Can I increase the field spots in my farm?
Asher Green
Depends on what your goal is and whether or not you're willing to cheat. If you don't want to cheat, the best option is to just buy more farm deeds and put them next to each other.
Otherwise you can edit maps through the map editor. This will not change pre-existing maps, but any new farms created afterwards will use the new map. This means you can edit stuff like fertilizer tiles or even map size.
Theoretically I think you can put farm tiles in any map, but I'm not sure if crops properly grow outside of farms. I tried planting a few seeds in the putit cave once, but they were still seedlings several months later.
Jaxson Cook
Well it finally happened. How do I cure my little girl's alien pregnancy?
Camden Johnson
Make them drink a bottle of poison or sulfuric acid, it'll kill the alien and they should be able to tank out the damage.
Angel Watson
This fucking game dude
Nathan Jenkins
For next time, tell them to not eat stuff off the floor, or make them wear an item that protects from alien impregnation.
Lucas Rivera
I made that item mandatory for every pet I own.
Parker Scott
What gives a prostitute the ability to 'relax' with npc's? Doesn't seem to be its job or race.
Carson Rodriguez
Domination is better to learn as a spell. Takes some effort to level to where it's effective, but SO worth it. My current dominate level is 100, making it my highest level spell.
Wish I agree. Fortunately, living mana batter doesn't apply to rods gained via farming unless you drop them and pick them up again, and ALL the wish rods I've come across came from that.
Austin King
And coupled with the Monster Heart, I can easily dominate level 150 gods.
Charles Gutierrez
Doesn't domination spell have tendency to be resisted?
When I saw Wish MP cost, I was mad at myself. Thankfully, I have now big supply of potions for curing corruption.
Both the spell and rod get resisted depending on the level difference between the spell or Magic Device skill and the monster. If you are a magic oriented character, it will probably be MUCH easier to level the spell than to grind Magic Device, which you don't even use for anything else.
Wish is a different issue entirely. You have a 1% chance to cast it successfully until both your Casting skill and spell level reach into the ~400 range. The rod is guaranteed to work.
Nathaniel Kelly
I should mention, Dominate gets a TON of spell xp per cast, so it levels up very quickly provided you take the time to grind it whenever the potential gets high. You can safely cast it on shopkeepers and unique NPCs because they are immune, the only issue is acquiring spell stocks. The spellbook is rather rare and difficult to read, but you CAN order it from the spell writer once you read one. It costs around 5k per charge though, and doesn't get you very many casts.
Owen Lopez
Nice to know. I still need to get higher MP to cast it and not to kill myself from mana reaction.
Tyler Miller
Don't mages still abuse the free extra zap action that you get at high skill levels?
Also aren't gods lvl 350-2000 and immune to dominate I thought?
Jaxon Johnson
I meant god race. I dominated a stag god first try.
Unique characters are always immune to Dominate. You have to use the Astral Light Pen on them, which requires first getting their relationship to Soul Mate.
Justin Bennett
You are right that anyone CAN use quick use. That seems like a LOT of effort for relatively little gain though.
John Lee
Any mass sprite replacers with better artwork that doesn't use existing franchise material (e.g., Symphogear, Monster Musume, etc.)?
Elijah Walker
I forget how but you can get a Kumiromi statue which gives you some seeds every few days. You can get multiple copies doing the little sister quest. The herb seed drop rate was lowered though.
Xavier Long
Cute Fairy pet also pukes up seeds.
Kayden Cox
Here's one i made myself. Used old hdbobblehead as base with some others. No monsters or animals replaced with mamono.
kumiromi statue isn't until act 2, elona.wikia.com/wiki/Statue_of_Kumiromi. You'll only get at most 1 herb seed per 10 days, and only if you use the statue on a day with a 3, 6, or 9 in the number (eg day 29, day 30 etc).
Eli Parker
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Brandon Morris
80 faith. Use the Preaching action. I recommend doing party time quests and preaching there, it counts the same as performing, though you don't get the random items.
Henry Thompson
Elaborate on that, please. Ive just recently got the performer skill and I've been wanting to start doing those quests. Can I preach after the quest is over or something like that so I can also train my performing skill and get bonus items?
Also, does religion affect pets? Like, do pets that follow lulwy use the speed trick and ones that follow mani get the damage boost? What about the passive attribute/skill bonuses the gods give, do they affect pets?
Nathaniel Jackson
Keep hitting this stupid wall every time I make a character.
Gabriel Reed
When you perform well your audience will throw random loot at you in addition to giving you gp. If you Preach they will only give you gp. Both performing and preaching (and sexy dancing and probably a couple other things) give you points needed to complete the quest.
If your perform or faith is too low (preaching uses the combined faith of your pets), they throw rocks at you instead, which interrupts your performance and might instantly kill lower level players.
Lucas Hernandez
run in windows 7 compatability mode.
Jonathan Gutierrez
cool
Anyone knows what the fuck this nigger is talking about?
I wish there were more advanced prostitution mechanics
Jack Bell
Where do I find rods of domination? I want to force a baby dragon or something new to be my follower.
Get them drunk then fug. You can gift things by pressing i and using the give command. Give them a beer or crim ale or whiskey you buy from the inn, and then ask if they want some tail.
Anthony Adams
"Knockout" it and throw a pokeball at it, I think that's how I got mine.
Ian Cruz
How do I deal with this fuck?
Isaiah Perez
Why are you worried? burden trains your weight lifting.
Bentley Cook
This, gotta get that weight lifting.
Jayden Hill
Dont carrry as much shit. or prioritise things that are lighter. Rods, books and scrolls and potions are light as shit. Carrying a banded mail is like 17.5 s and some axes around 10s. Dont pick up everything and only whats actually worth selling until you can carry more. Beind burdened is not a big deal, only worry when you are "Burdened!" and above.
Isaiah Gonzalez
Have edible sunflowers always been a thing in Elona+? I never saw one until now.
Eli Flores
flowers are new
Parker Hill
New additions, you can mix a bunch of different ones together ina pot of fusion to make a bouquet thingy or just sell them for a quick buck. Really good for money making early game, since they're free in the open wilderness and sell for quite a bit.
Jason Ross
Good to know. I've just been feeding them to my little girl when I run out of food.
Kayden Ortiz
You don't even NEED to feed your pets, they won't suffer from hunger. Just helps them with their growth I don't know about the nutrition of those flowers, but food that you know doesn't give you many points and just makes you fuller, like cargos of travelers food and rice balls are wasted if you feed them to pets (unless it's pets that give you items when full like little fairies).
Matthew Perry
Also good to know. Thanks.
Noah Cox
Heavier items are generally worth more. Equipment items are generally the best value per weight if you are selling them in your shop (not to vendors), barring essentially weightless things that will just max out your number of items instead.
Pets pick up flowers to sell, they are actually worth a surprising amount and pets selling flowers and ores get the full 100% value. Of course, you can't get that money back, pets spend all the gp they get in order to train their potentials, which is very worthwhile. Of course you can just evochat them 100k at a time which should cap their potentials if they aren't super high level.
Austin Baker
Does anyone know if "share a meal" with a pet splits the nutrition or duplicates it? I know both you and the pet get some benefits, and with herbed food it's always enough to hit bloated instantly
Cooper Peterson
According to the wiki, it duplicates nutrition and splits satiation.
This release is a bit finnicky tough, the bulk identification with the NPC is costing much cheaper than it should, to the point of identifying 2-3 items being cheaper than a single one, for example. I wouldn't be surprised if this brand new addition was a bit bugged.
Chase Campbell
Shit, so you mean it's NOT supposed to cost a couple hundred gp to id my whole inventory?
Ayden Brown
Who knows, maybe it's a "feature". They did make so that it's cheaper to identify stuff the lower level/fame you have. But usually those low costs are only achievable by being on the fighters guild. And still, it's weird how much cheaper it is to bulk identify rather than doing a single item.
Ryan Gomez
I couldn't even last one round with , so I summoned a God with a Wish and then teleported him into the room. Figured one way or the other I'd end up with at least 1 god heart. Itzpalt mad short work of him.
Zachary Barnes
And so I discovered that custom AI doesn't play well with pet evolution. Neither Lulwy's Trick nor Absolute Protect show up as possible actions on their respective upgraded pets.
Landon Fisher
OH so that's what "re initialize actions" is for. I thought it was just a way to clear the AI settings. Now this shit works
Michael Watson
Fucking teleport rod too OP They should add a resistance to being teleported based on target's stats and user's magical device level, so that very strong characters like the Gods are basically immune to it and they could give unique NPCs like the guild gatekeepers a bitflag that made them immune to it or something.
Interesting. I tought the same thing about the initialize option. I couldn't use the Android pet's boost, too, and it's supposed to have it from it's first evolution. I don't like this custom AI thing from Custom anyways, breaks the balance of the game, specially considering the AP system.
Mason Diaz
The AI itself is perfectly fine IMO. Being able to tell your pets to do exactly what you want them to do is perfectly OK and something the game desperately needs. Retarded randomized AI is NOT OK regardless of how the game is "balanced". Being able to teach them any ability for free (bar a bit of grinding in the puppy cave) is obviously OP.
Jaxson Moore
Given how absolutely bullshit later enemies are though, I'm perfectly fine with using every OP thing given to me short of wizard mode. The alternative is grinding skills to levels 1000+, and aint nobody got time for that.
Carter Taylor
That's actually a really nice idea, I hope something like this gets added some day
Jaxson Campbell
FYI I used the spell teleport other, not the rod. Same difference though. I kind of expected that to be the case, but I'm thankful it isn't
Julian Jones
Yeah, my main problem with it is being able to teach them abilities they shouldn't have. You can can use the AP system to force a pet to only use melee or ranged moves and make them avoid being too close or far away from their targets, that's enough for me. But that's what great about Custom, you can play it however you like.
Leo Green
What the fuck is this thing? Nothing is showing up in the wiki.
There are pokeballs in this?
Noah Peterson
well its obviously junk
Tyler Robinson
pokeballs and little balls. They all do the same: You throw them at an enemy that has VERY low hp, and if the monster has a level below the level of the ball, it catches them. Or it bounces off and does nothing but you can pick it up and try again. The HP needs to be so low for it to work that you really rely on using the KNOCKOUT skill since its a skill that will never kill enemies and if their HP is already 1, it will stun them making it easier for you to try and capture them.
Ryan Williams
just another random furniture item.
They are actually called "monster balls", but yes, that's what they are. Each monster ball has a level associated, which is the max level monster it can catch, and they will only work if the enemy has
Evan Morgan
Little balls are different. They ONLY work on little sisters, and it doesn't matter what their health is.
Dominic Howard
Speaking of which, is the Domination spell affected by monster's current HP or status? Or is my feat point on Knockout kind of wasted after I get a good enough level on Domination.
Carson Young
But it's not one of the junk items listed in the wiki. It's its own unique thing, and worth a decent bit. And it kinda looks like the dungeon cleaner thing.
Ah cool, I'll keep an eye out for them then. I've yet to see them or the domination staves yet. Or spellbooks for them. There are a lot of fucking spells though.
Jason Gonzalez
It's wasted but I wouldn't worry about it. You get plenty of feat points, especially if you wish for Secret Experience of Kumiromi every 10 levels (Miromi for short, they are a consumable that grants 1 extra feat, at a max of 1 per 10 levels, normally drops from Fairys but very rare, I've never seen one I didn't wish for).
Daniel Campbell
Domination is more of a late game spell, it's quite rare. Monster balls used to be pretty rare too, but they recently made it much easier for them to appear on misc shops. You can also make them on pots of fusion with empty containers(like treasure balls and material boxes) and 4D mirrors.
Yeah, I got one of those from a random fairy. There's no feat I really need anyways, just getting stamina and HP for now.
Jayden Green
Damnit. I haven't found any yet, and I was hoping to find the spell sooner. I'm actually surprised tbh, considering how many spells I have already, I didn't think there were level caps for spells.
Eli Moore
Dominate is rare, requires high literacy to read the book, and high casting to not fail the cast. My literacy is at 80 and I still fail about 20-30% of the time even when using the reading party skill that lets pets contribute some of their literacy skill.
Logan Foster
Can I use a pokeball on gwen the innocent and make her level up like the little girl companion?
Grayson Nelson
Unique characters are always immune to dominate and monster ball. In order to recruit them you need to use the Astral Light Pen instead.
Owen Morris
I don't think there are level caps, just spells that are difficult to cast with low levels of casting and hard to learn with low levels of literacy. if you manage to get it by draming you will be able to cast it but will most likely fail and just gain some spell exp. But Domination is really rare and hard to cast, stick to balls early on, even if you don't get the knockout skill it still works if you get the monster's HP low enough. And keep checking the assorted items stores (the ones with furniture and shit like that) and you'll eventually find some balls for sale. Ah, there's a Scientist in Port Kapul that gives you 5 lvel 5 balls for free but wants you to give him 5 monsters in return so you can get a gene machine you may use later on in the game. Just don't forget to get them from the ground when he gives you the quest like I did, lol.
I think town NPC aren't catcheable, but you can use the astral pen item that creates a clone of an NPC to join you. I hear that Gwen girl gets an evolution you can only get by doing this.
Eli Rivera
Need Astral Light Pen, which you can get by wishing, make sure you get her before you progress the story otherwise she'll turn into Gwen the Pitiless and you'll never be able to get Gwen the Innocent (or her evolution Gwen the Innocent Warrior), probably one of the only things you lose access to if you progress the story from what I've heard.
Jayden Evans
An entire panic quest against shapeshifting, teleporting badgers in Palmia. Fucking hell.
Robert Turner
Damn. Well, good thing i've no desire to progress the story anytime soon. Thanks anons. Nice, thanks user, i'm gonna go bug him right now. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. I've got a whole bunch I can't cast yet. And overcasting instantly kills me when trying them.
Palmia is the capital right? It's the only large city i've seen the entire time i've played this game.
Joshua Wood
Yeah it's the capital in North Tyris. I'm pretty sure there are bigger cities in South Tyris.
Palmia takes a while to search during a Panic quest due to how many walled off areas it has. Couple that with enemies who teleport randomly whenever they are hit and hunting down all targets becomes a serious pain.
Christian Ramirez
Spam Houzanha?
Jonathan Watson
Gene Machine/Gene engineer is massively valuable. It's the main way to teach pets new skills, and it's also useful for giving them body parts they might be missing.
Luke Wood
image may be useful
Sense Object reveals everything within a short circle around you, so it lets you see through walls for 1 turn. Not as useful but still an alternative
Logan Lee
Also, if you want to be a dedicated caster, definitely join the mage's guild as soon as possible as it will provide you virtually infinite books for the spells you already learned from books. I also has a trainer that teaches some skills you can only get there, such as one that reduces damage from over casting.
What does this do? What I do when I can't find the enemies is I just use dimentional fishing.
Evan Bennett
"Field break". It destroys random walls in a radius around you.
Landon Baker
From the wiki "All tiles on the current map are randomly destroyed and trains mining.".
Try it out in Palmia, a couple of uses pretty much wipes out the city save a few random walls here and there. Dunno how useful it'll be in your panic quest but might help.
Ryder Sanders
Houzanha is a Wide Skill that you learn when your mining skill is high enough. It consumes 80 sp and DESTROYS random tiles in the map you are in. If there is a wall there, it is fucking gone. If there is nothing, the tile changes to that of dirt. It does no damage, it just fucks up the map hard and tears down walls.
Jacob Stewart
Yeah, that's the one i've been using, which is what got me thinking that palmia is the only large city. Btw, the distance to Noyel is misleading. The snow makes it such a damn long trek. I failed two quests at once thinking it'd take as long to go there as it does from palmia to vernis, or port kapul at worst.
Yeah, I remember anons talking about using it to make a cerberus. I'm still so low level I keep putting off getting the skill atm. I kinda like leaving most of my companions at home atm as well, and just going solo a bit. They die so much otherwise.
There's a south tyris? I just thought this was the whole map. Nice!
Mages guild is in the south right? I've just been buying ever book I see, and grabbing em in dungeons and making sure my literacy potential is always above 200% with platinum coins.
Juan Adams
:^(
Anthony Adams
Mage' guild is in Lumiest. You need to deliver a lot of decoded ancient books tough.
Dylan Mitchell
I think I got 10 or so. I keep saving them in my storehouse with the rest of my books I can't use yet.
Tyler Wood
South Tyris is act 2. There's also Lost Irva, which I believe comes after you finish act 2 and is supposedly kind of unfinished.
I highly recommend you get Gene Engineer/Gene Machine ASAP, then head to Derphy and spam slaves until you can get all the skills you like on your main pets (there are a couple that might not be available on slaves, Eye of Mind is easiest to get from horses in Yowyn). Even if you aren't too terribly concerned about these skills right now, the faster your pets learn them, the faster they can start training them.
I think they nerfed it, pic related is all the damage it did. Small radius, and only costs 32sp.
Cooper Rodriguez
Actually I'm wrong about houzanha, it really did clear most of the map, It just looked like it cut off where my vision did because coincidentally there wasn't much damage there.
Brayden Garcia
You have a list of the more useful ones? Or at least a suggestion?
Camden Anderson
Shieeet, I spent ages looking for asuras. But don't those horses also give you extra legs? Any one easier to get Greater Evasion from?
Nolan Powell
If you plan to stay with the mage guild, join it last, join the thieves' and fighters' guilds before it for the exclusive skills from the trainers. Besides that, the other guilds are pretty easy to get into (fighters wants you to kill a few mobs, and thieves wants you to be 5 months in arrears with paying your bills, you'll get -60 karma from that).
Alexander Hernandez
Thats the con of houzanha. It really confuses you because it changes the map but your fog of war vision doesnt update that until you see that area again. So you may use it and think nothing happened and then you start walking and it feels as if things change as you walk. You move to a wall and suddenly its gone, but it was gone a while ago.
Jordan Hall
Yes, they do also give extra legs. If you want to avoid that, get a Goblin ranch going. I'd probably sue a Bat for greater evasion
Carson Wright
Yep they do
Jacob Green
You can also learn those skills via a blessed Scroll of Gain Attribute (recommended after you learn every other skill) or directly by Wish.
Elijah Allen
Nice! It'd be awesome if the Nips made a full world of the game. To the point you couldn't explore everything in just one of your characters lifetimes. Agh, but I like travelling alone atm, and hate how often my companions die though that's probably my fault for not handling their equipment or leveling
How good are these exclusive skills?
Ayden King
Pickpocket and disarm trap from the thieves guild. Pickpocket is occasionally useful but not really.
Dual Wield, Eye of Mind, and Tactics from fighters guild. The latter two are pretty essential if you attack with weapons or fists, useless if you prefer spells.
Zachary Baker
To expand on what I just said, as an example. When I have companions during the "my girlfriends stalker" quests, the quest target usually dies, as well as most or all of my companions, but just now when i'm alone, it's much easier. Like I can just teleport her away, then kill anything that charges me with magic dart, or one of the bolt spells.
That explains the dual wield book in the shelter. I dunno if i'd ever use it on this character but might be interesting. Tactics too, considering how many companions i'll probably end up having.
Brandon Lee
"Tactics" is just +melee damage, nothing to do with pets. "Eye of Mind" is +crit
Blake Watson
Oh. Serves me right for assuming.
Liam Cox
Just thought I'd point out that, yes, pets definitely are worth training. Just look at that dist damage.
Thomas Wright
Um, am I supposed to be that strong at level 50 too?
Caleb Lopez
Pet attributes are MUCH easier to train, but then level is more or less an amalgam of your skills and attributes. Pets are about as strong as you are, plus or minus whatever special traits they have.
Adam Ortiz
Interestingly, my lightning bolt averages 1344 on paper (spell level 102), while my black angel's damage averages 1302. They are surprisingly close together. That doesn't account for her crits or my element scar+wet though, and she has a higher speed with her boost+lulwy's trick
Caleb Cook
So, do you just like oneshot everything with your pets so powerful?
Wyatt Richardson
Weak shit yeah. Higher level enemies get exponentially more powerful too.
Elijah Wright
The irony is that I'm only using my weaker pets right now. When I fight a challenge 80+ dungeon I pull out the and Bell of Emergency. Karata's speed is 1235, and the Bell's is over 1500, both are melee pets that i've trained with shadowstep and swarm. Weaker enemies die so fast that my other 4 don't even get a chance to shoot.
FYI, seminar mascot is probably bugged. Normally, pets lose the cResEle bit which grants total immunity to everything but physical and magic damage when recruited, he does not. As a Metal Race, he also has the cMetal bit which reduces all physical damage taken by 90%, and also has innate Superb magic resist as well.
Dominic Torres
Are they all stronger than you? Is it pets that usually clear dungeons in the future rather than the player?
Josiah Nguyen
Pretty much yeah. My lightning bolts are pretty impressive, but I would say that a decent pet is AT LEAST 80% of a player by itself, and I usually travel with 4-7 pets.
Aaron Cook
teach us your ways senpi
Daniel Allen
If you got charisma as high as they do, couldn't you have dozens of pets with you at once?
Gavin Taylor
Elona being the game it is, I have plenty of time to reply to everything here while I play it, also I have a nasty habit of taking multiple posts to say what I should have said in one.
Hard cap of 15 pets, including shops, ranches, and pets waiting in town. Escort quests also take up pet slots.
You can temporarily deposit pets at the Doujou or (much later) at a Discarded Ranch to take them off your total.
Landon Miller
Dammit. There goes my dream of having a necromancer army like D2.
Jeremiah Evans
I wasnt bitching, its nice to have someone who knows stuff.
its necromancy a thing now though?
Austin Collins
YES
It's a pot for fusion recipie, aptly named "necromancy". You put a monster part (eg those random monster hearts and eyes) into the recipe and it creates an item that can be used to summon a zombie version of that monster. There's also an item (DD cemetary key) that can be used to manage up to 15 of these "coffins" at once.
Julian James
I dunno. I figured with summon wild, summon monsters, summon spirit, i'd eventually get summon undead.
Jaxson Phillips
You can actually have a necromancer army, I haven't tried it though.
Not enough! I want more than 15 total with pets. I wanted dozens to overrrun my enemies, like the one mod in M&B.
Nathan Stewart
Yeah, it'd be nice to break the limit, only thing about it I could find doing a quick search around was elona.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:8259#3 from 2013, no idea what progress there's been to allow people to exceed it.
Charles Adams
So uh, while running through the puppy dungeon to level up friendship with my pets, I got attacked by some dude named Satoli the Sunbarian, who got my character pregnant in the battle. Is he an ayy? Theres nothing in the wiki on him
Maybe in the future, though if it's not being updated i'm not hopeful. . . .
Aaron Smith
No idea about the character, but that's the only kind of "pregnancy" in the game.
Isaac Rogers
Well, I caught him. He had a green head, a ray gun, and did a shitload of damage. I had to savescum to do it without dying He doesn't look like a xeno from aliens though, he looks like a reg dude with a moss head.
Isaac Foster
This is him.
Bentley Lewis
Hey, that faggot killed me and got me pregnant too one time. I think he just an asshole.
Lincoln Sullivan
Is he just a regular ayy? It's my first time running into him and catching him in my pokeball. He's pretty fucking strong at ranged tbh. He keeps 1 shotting shit.
Nathan Bell
nah, the aliens look like pic related, I have no idea who you got, but aliens aren't the only mobs that can impregnate people with aliens, also that hat he's wearing is nice, elona.wikia.com/wiki/Sunbararia_Helm I use its constant blood sucking to train my healing
Ah shit, my bad. I looked for satoli, not sunbararian. Thanks user!
I wonder if the enemies he impregnates would make kids loyal to me?
Hudson Lee
They'll probably be hostile, but you can always try it out
Josiah Sanchez
Nope. They will attack everything, even you.
Sebastian Thomas
And worst case scenario is me accidentally completely wiping out a city permanently by a species of extremely powerful aliens. . .
Ayden Rivera
If all else fails you can nuke the city.
Adrian Hall
I know this is cheesy, exploitative, and overpowered, but I just think it's hilarious that I'm training my pets in Shadowstep by making them hit themselves with it.
Zachary Mitchell
You can make your pets hit themselves?
Yeah but thats a seriously evil action, unless you got that perk that always has you with 0 karma.
Noah Allen
Just go to Derphy and make quests then. Guards stop attacking, when your Karma is >-30
Tyler Martinez
In the custom AI, entity = self and preserve target = true
Carter Hernandez
Nuke is a last resort to be sure, but if the alien infestation gets so bad you can't fight it, it is both effective and thematically appropriate.
Leo Brown
Yeah, that's what I did when I hooked too much and was banned from all the other cities.
Ohh, cool. I remember a bunch of anons talking further up in the thread how amazing the scripted ai can be due to its alterability.
Definitely a last resort though, and not one I want to use tbh. No matter what that crazy chick in derpthy says about it.
James Sanders
I think we've all been there
Elijah Howard
Shadowstep+Ice ball. Because my pets are now living grenades.
Samuel Clark
Yeah, it's just so fun. I even switch up my clothes and hair style to go "incognito", without companions.
Brody Rogers
There seems to be some kind of problem with my game. Elona auto-passes my turns and it runs incredibly quickly (i die of starvation in less than 30 seconds). I can do things if i'm fast enough but this doesn't stop me from dieing in less than a minute. It worked fine a few months ago. I got a new keyboard and mouse since then but it'd be pretty strange if they only acted up in this game. Is there something i can do so i can play normally? I reinstalled a couple of times now, i tried a combination of Elona, + and Custom and all of them have this problem. I don't have a gamepad plugged-in so that's not it either.
Lincoln Hill
New thread when?
Christian Diaz
Nigger that's strange, you'd have better luck posting about this in the elona wikia's forum. Probably has something to do with your keyboard.
Jayden Carter
Yeah, that's probably my best bet. I hoped this problem was common enough so someone here knew a fix. Tried some other stuff in the meantime. I switched my keyboard and mouse back, didn't change anything. Tried running the game using applocale and only using a single core, nothing. I also found out that i can't use the context menus even when i change the keybind. The only keybinds that work are the arrowkeys, NUMpad and TAB. TAB also pauses the game when it asks for Input so at least i can get my bearings.
Joseph Barnes
Have you tried seeing what happens when you unplug the keyboard? There's a "wait" key, but I can't remember which it is and I'm not playing at the moment.
Lincoln Collins
I read somewhere a while ago that pressing the same button that's being "pressed" automatically might fix the issue. So if you're automatically waiting, press that button on your keyboard. The only other thing I can think of is a gamepad interfering.
Colton Allen
The game keeps running the same when i unplug anything. I believe space bar let's you skip a turn or look around or something. At first i thought the game might be holding that down continiously but my movement commands override it and actually pressing space displays a text message as well. It's really as if my character is turn-based whilst the world is in real-time.
After some testing i can determine that the arrow keys allow me to move, Home/ Page Up/ Page Down/ End allow me to move diagonally, Enter and Space bar search the current environment, Tab is some kind of text input and finally F8 through 12 maintain their original function. No other key works and none of the previously mentioned keys stop this madness. After certain pop-ups like the cutscenes or the Elona+ tooltips, i have to make Elona my active window again in order to continue. Even more strange is the fact that if i click in Elona, the game slows down to a normal pace for passing a turn then it speeds back up. I can slow down the game artificially if i continuesly click whilst moving. I'm still passing my turns but at a much slower rate.
I made a GIF to better illustrate what's going on Too lazy too WebM. As you might be able to tell, despite the terrible frame-rate, when i'm clicking on-screen the game slows down to a more sensible pace.
Jaxson Campbell
Forgot to mention somethings. It's not just the in-game speed that's messed up, every menu is also sped up. Despite not working as keybinds, my numerical keys do work if i need to fill in a text field. I changed every in-game option and none of it made a difference.
I'm gonna try some other options for about an hour or so before i give up for now and wait on someone who knows what's up.
Evan Perez
Okay whoever on the wiki recommended reading on "safe spots" like "YOUR FUCKING HOUSE" is an idiot.
Parker Fisher
This is the only thing I could find regarding your issue, but it's a old post from '08 and vanilla elona. But based on your gif it looks like you're automatically passing turns, so try pressing shift+num5 to see if that fixes it anyways. Also you mentioned you tried changing all in-game options, does that include running the game in windowed mode? I remember having some issues when I started playing quite a while ago and running the game in windowed mode seemed to fix most of the issues.
Wyatt Morris
Yeah, don't read spellbooks in homes or cities, only on the borders in the wilderness, at the end of hunting quests, or on the steps of puppy's cave. Reading "a textbook titled " is good for passing the time in storm/etherwind in your home/shelter, they're benign books. I wonder though, if you relocate your house maybe the monsters will all get despawned?
Jaxon Hall
Is there anywhere I can go to pick up another gene machine? I think the one I had got burned, or I might have died somewhere and dropped it. Iunno, been a while since I lost that thing.
Elijah Ward
Little Sister Quest lets you get back any precious items you've previously identified, so if you'd identified your Gene Machine it should be possible to get it back elona.wikia.com/wiki/Little_sister_level_30
Jordan Wood
Also, purchase some fireproof and coldproof blankets if you don't have them yet.
Cooper Smith
That Shift+numpad thing actually did it, Thank you so much. Really strange that it persists not only between instances of the game but also between installs and versions of the game.
Juan Phillips
all precious items are immune to destruction, so you must have dropped it somewhere.
Isaac Perez
If you don't already know, the weight of an equipped weapon (or ammo for a ranged weapon) determines its crit multiplier, heaver is better. I was testing some different ammo with cursed scrolls of flying on my black angel. At 0.9s she crit for around 2300. At 2.4s she crit about 2500. Using that same heavier arrow and bumping its weight up to 48.1s, she now crits for 4050. Further increasing the weight again to 110.7s and the crits are near 5700.
Cameron James
And it seems to max out around 6000, since thats all I get out of a weight of 251.7s
Christopher Ramirez
That's a pretty small curve considered the weight multiplier, did you test decreasing weights?
Bentley James
Nothing below the 0.9. I didn't really see any reason to try to get the weight lower than that.
Colton Brown
Shall I bake new bread in a bit?
Andrew Torres
Yes please.
Please include these pictures/pastebins for a more informative OP
Noah Campbell
It shall be done. Should I shamelessly rip the pastebins from halfchan /jp/ or just include some of them?
Julian Morris
The two pastebins I posted are stolen from halfchan /jp/ and /rlg/
Noah Scott
wew laddie, alright Ill do it. Give me a minute to finish some stuff I'm working on.
