Overworld vs Open world

Brody Ortiz
Brody Ortiz

You know how in older games like Final Fantasy 7 or Fallout 2 you had large world maps where you can go mostly wherever you want after some point, well right of the bat in Fallout's case, and you either get in combat or predefined enter locations.
I used to call that open world before stumbling upon Morrowin and realizing the difference.
I was huge open world fan ever since, but got tired of it by now.
Can you recommend me some recent~ish overworld games with a lot of optional places to explore, and interesting combat/customization system? Japanese or wester, real-time or turn based, doesn't really matter, it just have to be good game and free of sjw bullshit.

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http://store.steampowered.com/app/359310/Evoland_2/
https://lgdb.org/game/chaosesque-anthology
http://www.moddb.com/games/chaosesqueanthology
Jose Gomez
Jose Gomez

Elliot Quest, but it's a Zelda 2 / Kid Icarus style Metroidvania. There are different builds and you can permanently fuck yourself for end game and be too weak to kill the optional super bosses and there are no respecs.

Jayden Flores
Jayden Flores

I agree, OP. There's nothing like that feeling when you gain a vehicle or go out into the world after the starting area and suddenly have 20+ new places to explore.

recent
That's a tough one. Maybe an RPGmaker game?

Jace Campbell
Jace Campbell

What about an openoverworld like Zelda 2 or Tales of Symphonia?

Elijah Ward
Elijah Ward

That looks like one of thousands of retro indieshits from steam tbh.

RPG maker
Please no.

I have no interest in zelda anything, but tales of symphonia looks cute. It was released on PC recently wasn't it? How does port compare to emulated version?
Does games itself have shitton of optional content? Like dungeons, super bosses, minigames, maybe even recruitable characters?

Joshua Ramirez
Joshua Ramirez

You asked for a recent game. Overworlds have been extinct in non-indie games for a long time.

Jeremiah Moore
Jeremiah Moore

There was an influx of PS3 ports on PC recently, maybe some of it was good?

Andrew Hill
Andrew Hill

Witcher 3 did it right, I think. Beautiful vistas pockmarked with little interesting things here and there with real huge fucking places like cities and dangerous locales without looking like a theme park. I mean it isn't perfect but it's the best open-world game I have played to date and that's with the stale gameplay mechanics it had.

Overworld nowadays just seems like a chore to me, specifically old ones like in FF games. All the maps had were randomly generated encounters but without the spectacle of actually traveling or seeing pretty graphics at the very least. I'd rather it be like FF Tactic's or Dragon Age: Origins' map traversal system. Unless of course if the overworld is part of the gameplay, like in Convoy or, if it counts, XCOM 2.

Kevin Flores
Kevin Flores

Apparently the original NGC version of Symphonia runs at 60 fps, while every single other one, including PC, runs at 30.
This reminds me when nintendo was good.
I heard that GC emulation is pretty good, so I guess that's what I'll do.

Christian Phillips
Christian Phillips

http://store.steampowered.com/app/359310/Evoland_2/
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/12927384/Evoland_v2.2.0.7_[GOG]

Think Chrono Trigger, except when you travel to a different era, the graphics and gameplay shifts.

Sebastian Gomez
Sebastian Gomez

What exactly is the difference between overworld and open world then?
Morrowind is open world?
Which is Golden Sun 1/2?
Which are the Zelda games?

Juan Gray
Juan Gray

Dragon's Dogma maybe?

Robert Gutierrez
Robert Gutierrez

I played it and wasn't impressed. I particualrly didn't like the combat and the "chest in a very difficult place to get contains generic worthless items" thing.

Overworld visibly transitions into exploration areas, while open world is one big exploration area. Usually overworld offers much more in terms of exploration but is pretty abstract, while open world gives you complete immersion into the world, but the world itself is much smaller.
Stuff like zelda or Dragon's Dogma is neither really, since you just have a bunch of interconnected areas.

Joseph Jackson
Joseph Jackson

What exactly is the difference between overworld and open world then?
An Overworld serves as a representation of your character traveling the world, and gameplay occurs in distinct instances separate from this representation. With an Open World, there is no abstraction, and gameplay is not instanced.
Which are the Zelda games?
A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword, etc, are all open world.

Dragon's Dogma is open world.

Lincoln Sullivan
Lincoln Sullivan

NieR: Automata fits the description.

Daniel Richardson
Daniel Richardson

I don't consider it open world if to get from one area to another you need to enter a narrow pathway rounded by artificial walls and watch a loading screen for a while.

Carter Harris
Carter Harris

I am still unsure which Golden Sun would be. The second game especially added gameplay elements to the overworld even though all the main gameplay happens in other instances.

Aaron Gomez
Aaron Gomez

I was huge open world fan ever since, but got tired of it by now.
That means you are getting tired of playing the same fucking type of games. Expand your tastes, pleb.

Samuel Hill
Samuel Hill

That's what I'm doing itt. I haven't played classic JRPG since Mana Khemia on PS2.
I'm currently looking for TOS undub torrent, but everything seems dead in the water.
Does sequel even have undub version?

Landon Reyes
Landon Reyes

to get from one area to another you need to enter a narrow pathway rounded by artificial walls and watch a loading screen for a while
I honestly don't recall that happening in DD:DA, but if your definition of "Open World" is that there are no distinct area transitions, I don't find that a particularly useful definition as it's far too exclusionary for such a well-established phrase.

I think you could comfortably call them JRPGs with an overworld.

Jackson Reyes
Jackson Reyes

ChaosEsqueAnthology R 117H - Malum-in-se Edition.

https://lgdb.org/game/chaosesque-anthology , http://www.moddb.com/games/chaosesqueanthology

R 117H - Malum-in-se Edition.
***
This update features new weapons, and new Romanesque areas for DarkHold and the building system.
***
Two new weapons: A brutal new spiked mace that is quick to swing (being hollow and light)
Sai: these can interdict weapons far above their own weight class (similar to the special ability of the quarterstaff and elven staff)
***
New building: Romanesque Belltower - A tall belltower in the old pre-13th century style.
Map update: The Darkhold Dungeon got more complex: A Romanesque area modeled after an 11th century church has been added to the crypts below.
***
(Thought Theme for this release:)
_"Fight to the end"_
_"Conquer the enemy"_
"Far as the eye can see"
"I see my victory"
"I'm not afraid"
"Never afraid"
_"Never give up the fight"_
……
_"I'm a solider in a battle"_
_"Never ending, Never ending war"_
-Yngwie J. Malmsteen
***
NOTE: This game now has over 140 weapons and has expanded to 2 DVDs (Download both!)
"How can less be more, more is more"
***
"Out of the darkness the voices are calling…"

Logan Jackson
Logan Jackson

I found DD to be a tedious grind devoid of FUN, replete with a shit save system and OOPS KILLED BY PHYSICS BUG. Now fight these bandits that are borderline fireproof for no reason.

Charles Gutierrez
Charles Gutierrez

fuck off retard. Did you not get the message first time?

Andrew Evans
Andrew Evans

Now fight these bandits that are borderline fireproof for no reason
It's not that they have high fire resistance, it's that defense in DD directly subtracts from the damage you deal. So if they have 100MDef and 0% Fire Resistance and you deal 110 Fire Damage, you're going to deal 10 damage. This also means that, say, getting a new staff that "doubles" your damage so that you're dealing 220 Fire Damage is in fact an 1100% increase in the amount of damage you're dealing after defense.

Camden Morgan
Camden Morgan

I'm currently looking for TOS undub torrent, but everything seems dead in the water.
undubbed
mfw I thought you were talking about Star Trek: ToS
Do yourself a favor and play some quality games that are out of your tastes.
Grim Dawn
Grand Theft Auto: SA
Vanquished
Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2
Total War whatever
Crypt of the Necrodancer
Devil May Cry 4 or 3: Special Edition
Way of the Samurai 4
Sims 1 or 2
King of Fighters 98
The list goes on but be varied, you needlessly smug anime. If you really were smug then you would not be in a rut like this.

Andrew Morris
Andrew Morris

muh tastes
Your tastes are pretty shit
Grim Dawn
It's meh.
Grand Theft Auto: SA
It's shit.
Vanquished
The fuck is even Vanquished? You mean Vanquish? It's an ok game.
Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2
Shit.
Total War whatever
Total shit.
Crypt of the Necrodancer
SJW shit.
Devil May Cry 4 or 3: Special Edition
These ones are good, ok.
Way of the Samurai 4
This one is too.
Sims 1 or 2
Lol what?
King of Fighters 98
not 2002
So yeah, improve yourself.

Evan Rodriguez
Evan Rodriguez

Bored shitposter or underage b8. Either way pic related.

Aaron Wright
Aaron Wright

can't deal with good taste confirmed by trips
let's unload the memes

Justin Morris
Justin Morris

my opinion is fact!

Aiden Jackson
Aiden Jackson

It in fact is.

Juan Parker
Juan Parker

Learn to speak English and more people might give a shit about your opinion.

Grayson Ross
Grayson Ross

Where my english is incorrect, you braindead monkey?

Logan Reed
Logan Reed

user pls

Luke Russell
Luke Russell

Where my english is incorrect, you braindead monkey?
I just came here to laugh at you.

Leo Davis
Leo Davis

that entire post

Jack Ortiz
Jack Ortiz

Hernandez go and and stay gone

Joshua James
Joshua James

The Symphonia PC port is alright, it's based on the PS3 version though. So it's got some extras compared to the GC version like everyone getting Hi-Ougis.

Golden Sun is expressly overworld. The Overworld map of Weyard behaves exactly like Overworlds in Tales and Final Fantasy games.

TOS Sequel
It's shit, don't even try it.

implying 98UM is a bad game
implying 2002 not 2002UM is better
user, I…

Jackson Thomas
Jackson Thomas

user, you're killing me, man.

Camden Walker
Camden Walker

Wew

Lincoln Barnes
Lincoln Barnes

Please tell me it's porn.

Daniel Hill
Daniel Hill

i can't tell if i think that gimmick is clever or if it panders to "gayyyyyymers" in the worst way

Elijah Ramirez
Elijah Ramirez

Probably not, she makes that face all the time.

Nolan Murphy
Nolan Murphy

Damn son, you failed English.

Jonathan Hughes
Jonathan Hughes

how long have you been using google translate?
it takes about 3 years or maybe 4 in order to get a hang of the language and formulate your own sentences
with fucking google translate
kill me

Kevin Jackson
Kevin Jackson

How about Neverwinter Nights 2? One of the expansions, the Storm of Zehir campaign has an overworld map.
Game is from 2005 or 06, made by Obsidian. It's an rpg running on DnD 3 or 3.5 e rules, with gameplay more similar to Baldur's Gate or Icewind Dale, instead of first Neverwinter Nights. It has a GOG release.

Asher Carter
Asher Carter

How about the Expeditions Series? So far there is Expeditions: Conquistador and Expeditions: Viking

In both games, you play as an explorer in a new land in search of profit which you can attain via looting and pillaging, building alliances (and maybe breaking them,) and finding hidden areas. In the overworld various events, both after camping and while traveling, can happen like finding extra food, being ambused, etc.

Samuel Rogers
Samuel Rogers

Symphonia
Google it
ENDLESS. FUCKING. TALKING.
Talking is literally 90% of the gameplay

This is why JRPG's are dead

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