Civilization

Ian Hall
Ian Hall

Tell me Holla Forums, what is the best civilization?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13226953

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Thomas Parker
Thomas Parker

Reported. Sage goes in all fields

Juan Martin
Juan Martin

nani?

Ethan Baker
Ethan Baker

Datamining thread detected. 2

Easton Brown
Easton Brown

ctrl+F Freeciv

Ryder Barnes
Ryder Barnes

8800
fucken checked
Also I thought freeciv was just civ 1 but open source.

Nathaniel Fisher
Nathaniel Fisher

there are different rulesets. it includes rulesets that recreate civ1 or civ2. the "freeciv" ruleset is similar to civ2. or you can customize it however you want.

Jeremiah Campbell
Jeremiah Campbell

Trick question; the best Civilization is AMERICA!

Wyatt Stewart
Wyatt Stewart

freeciv is the standard 'open source' game where it never actually comes together. It's not able to reproduce either civ1 or civ2 perfectly. I'd recommend playing civ1 in dosbox as it's the best version of civ. And civ2 guy who is itching to reply "no, it's civ2!", did you play civ1 at release or will you be a "babby's first civ" poster? Yeah, that's right.

Noah Williams
Noah Williams

6

Samuel Kelly
Samuel Kelly

Can you give any reasons why civ 1 is objectively better?

Cooper Torres
Cooper Torres

Not a bad joke but the game is very poorly designed and there's no getting around the 1UPT thing, even with the ability to stack units eventually.

Henry Morris
Henry Morris

I really want a civ game where you can romance the AI controlled civ leaders

Connor Young
Connor Young

people actually voted for Civ V and VI

Christ, that should be a bannable offense.

Anthony Harris
Anthony Harris

Communism
Bonus to production
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Jason Watson
Jason Watson

3 will always be my favorite because I grew up with it. I still think it did diplomacy better than any game after it, and having a whole bunch of ways to win without warmongering unlike its predecessors was really fun to play around with. I don't know if it's objectively the best, but it's certainly the one that appeals to me the most.

Hunter Gomez
Hunter Gomez

Five is winning
The majority of this website has shit and casual tastes.

Dominic Evans
Dominic Evans

im more surprised anyone actually voted for beyond earth.

Lincoln Anderson
Lincoln Anderson

Its strawpoll, its automatically shit and any one faggot can easily vote multiple times.

Elijah Long
Elijah Long

It really is a shame.

Ian Perry
Ian Perry

I would use something else but I cant remember the polling website that hotwheels used to use.

Liam Peterson
Liam Peterson

tfw when you get aroused by porn of a 500 year old dead woman and you get a harem of women in Crusader Kings 2
What awesome tits you have, you greatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreatgreat grandmother my dear.

Zachary Miller
Zachary Miller

Byzantine, Duh

Austin Hill
Austin Hill

poal.me

Nathan Parker
Nathan Parker

poal.me

Easton Jackson
Easton Jackson

III because it had the best art direction and music

William Sullivan
William Sullivan

Thank you very much. New and improved poll right here.
http://poal.me/17f0jj

Julian Martin
Julian Martin

Master of Magic

Jacob King
Jacob King

Civ 2 was the best one though I heard 4 might be I didn't play that one.

Julian Powell
Julian Powell

Actually Freeciv default ruleset is very improved version of Civ 2, with city borders, workers, rebalance to get rid of smallpox and so on.

Brayden Jackson
Brayden Jackson

tfw no one ever made SFM of Civ V Isabella

Nolan Kelly
Nolan Kelly

Endless Legend

Jacob Russell
Jacob Russell

3-way tie between III, IV, and Alpha Centauri.

Only good thing about the game are Tin's music and bringing back concept of national parks. Everything else is bad, with historical inconsistencies to leaders being especially bad and easy to fix. For example, Jadwiga should be a teeanger or a loli instead of a woman over 30. At least it's not as bad as France or making Cleopatra look ugly and nothing like a Greek.

Jace Howard
Jace Howard

isabella

Aiden Watson
Aiden Watson

And yet I love that. I even played Civ4 with 3UPT when the mod allowed for it.

And Call to Power or Colonization don't even deserve a honorary mention? Faggot.

Eli Rodriguez
Eli Rodriguez

Isabella

Connor Davis
Connor Davis

Colonization
Crap, I keep forgetting that it was a standalone game. I tend to lump it with Civ IV.

Call to Power
I didn't like it as much as iii, iv, AC, and colonization.

Mason Carter
Mason Carter

for a Spaniard, she's got some really pink nipples.

Charles Cooper
Charles Cooper

Why would you mix a game that released in 1994 with CiV4? I will bully you if you're talking about Civilization IV: Colonization

Elijah Flores
Elijah Flores

What game is that on your image?

David Harris
David Harris

Katawa shoujo

Angel Lopez
Angel Lopez

no C-Evo

Juan Rodriguez
Juan Rodriguez

Bad ratz

Lucas Walker
Lucas Walker

I believed it at first, but then I saw it was just a meme. This is like the third link or something.
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bad-rats

Jacob Torres
Jacob Torres

Its Boku no Pico

Jaxon Ross
Jaxon Ross

Epic memes. The name of this song is darude sandstorm, am I right?

Chase Phillips
Chase Phillips

facebook memes
Keep that shit out

Jordan Richardson
Jordan Richardson

Because original Colonization wasn't a part of civ franchise from what I remember, and I never could get into pre-Alpha Centauri civ games.
I will bully you if you're talking about Civilization IV: Colonization
Pls no

Colton Miller
Colton Miller

i didnt know i needed this in my life, but now i want more of it

Grayson Turner
Grayson Turner

freeciv
I tried that shit once and I had pirates with muskets attacking me in 1st century and the AI had fucking engineers sometime between the 3rd-5th century.

Anthony Adams
Anthony Adams

I don't remember that happening in my games, did I miss some diplomatic option

civ porn
this is new to me, but I like it

as for the question, CIV best ever,
and modded, no questions asked

Lincoln Evans
Lincoln Evans

Even goddamn wikipedia got that one right. Let that sink in. And where do you get off shitting on even VI when you apparently never played the golden age of Civs?B-But muh 4! Yeah, fuck off. A man's not a man unless he killed at least a year's worth of time on Civ2 custom scenarios

Levi Smith
Levi Smith

Sage

Jaxon Hughes
Jaxon Hughes

Cook the rice, pay the price. Fuck off, faggot.

Jayden Hall
Jayden Hall

I will once I understand what the joke is. I just dont fucking get it.

Xavier Diaz
Xavier Diaz

Colonization is better than all the mainline games, Alpha Centauri is close but it's far too up its own ass.

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

ill cook your rice faggot lmao.

Luis Miller
Luis Miller

Embrace meme diversity

Charles Harris
Charles Harris

I can't tell if the goyim know or not

Jace Peterson
Jace Peterson

Civilization VI also suffers from enforced diversity and making the games bare bones and releasing the rest of the content as DLC.

Justin Allen
Justin Allen

4 is the last real Civ game anyway.

Although I do get a laugh out of how bad 6 is. Even the devs seem embarrassed.

Nolan Russell
Nolan Russell

Citizens starving
Toppest of Keks
There's something about Civ VI that just doesn't make me want to play it. I don't know if it's the presentation, the UI or the fact that it's even more streamlined than other Civ games.
Goiym know, but they don't care. They think that whatever Jews are doing, politicians and journalists do as well, so the threat to them is nullified.

Wyatt Martin
Wyatt Martin

The price of having a healthy marriage with a nice wife anywhere but the USA due to its corrupting nature and estrogen in the water turning men into cucks and women into frigid bitches?
Or jealous white ""women"" knowing they can't compete?

Blake Carter
Blake Carter

Call to power had the best nuke system (SMAC had the second best because of the terrain deformation and general destructiveness. I'd love to see a game combine them).

Gavin Baker
Gavin Baker

ctrl+F 'fall from heaven'
none found

Sure is summer.

Julian Murphy
Julian Murphy

5 is best though fuck off normolfaggot

Justin Peterson
Justin Peterson

More than 6 games and they still refuse to hire anyone who knows how to or to learn how to make decent AI. Their head developer gave a bunch of "It's haaaaaard" excuses too. He came to my uni once to give a speech and be a general prick. There was a related Bad AI thread but I dunno if it's been pruned yet. I personally like 5 because you can't stack units but if not for the abysmal AI and it's cheating I would say 3. It's been proven that in 3 if you don't use gimmicks or play on easymode you can't win because it cheats so much. Maybe if you play a 1v1 duel you could but with 4-6 opponents all cheating like madmen it isn't going to happen. Never played any other than 3 and 5 (with all DLC.)
My main determinant for these types of games is AI quality so IMO from what I know they're all shit.

Zachary Ortiz
Zachary Ortiz

The music is always one of the best features of a Civilization game, I'm glad atleast they haven't skimped on it.

Angel Perez
Angel Perez

that can't be a real post

Nathan Hill
Nathan Hill

people voted 4 instead of Alpha Centauri
degenerates the lot of you

Aaron Price
Aaron Price

I only ever played Civ 5.

I also fell for the Beyond Earth meme and hate myself for it

Liam Sanchez
Liam Sanchez

On half/v/ we played a lot of IV in the months until V released, we even had a modpack with custom civilizations. Then V released and everyone got pissed off.

Jose Reed
Jose Reed

Civ 4 with Fall From Heaven

Asher Miller
Asher Miller

4 modded is better, its probably the best in the entire franchise due to their opening of the SDK, basically made it possible to improve on the very core gameplay elements

civ 5
newmenium faggots

Zachary Hall
Zachary Hall

Cant handle the trurth hothead

Kevin Collins
Kevin Collins

last one
what is this

Andrew Lopez
Andrew Lopez

camera movement
that was actually a free camera mode included in the game, only needing a ini setting switch,
pretty cool but unplayable that way, still result of good game development

SPEESSS
that was a mod, included with BtS mind you, that sort of turns to shame any recent speess 4x game

Brayden Jenkins
Brayden Jenkins

6
Yeah, because having two Greek civs with zero differences and fucking Australia instead of Abbos makes such an appealing game. Please excuse me while I go play Endless Legends.

Liam Sanders
Liam Sanders

The best Civilization game is IV (especially with Rhyes and Fall).
The best "Civilization" game is Alpha Centauri.

This isn't really debatable.

Levi Perez
Levi Perez

I preferred civ 3 tbh

Aiden Watson
Aiden Watson

Anybody not voting Alpha Centauri

Retards everywhere

Easton Lopez
Easton Lopez

this is going to be another one of those "my taste is better, your taste is shit" threads ain't it?

Connor Johnson
Connor Johnson

There are poeple who are voted V instead of IV… I just can't even anymore…

Anthony Rivera
Anthony Rivera

they are newmeniums, people who start playing gaems after 2000s
fucking disgusting what they are, turning 18 now
we shall reap their females

Angel Young
Angel Young

I think I liked pretty much every game on that list. For various reasons.
I mean, 5 was not really a "good civ game" but it had it's moments and the aesthetics were midly pleasant for instance.
I think the only I didn't like was Beyond Earth. More of the same, aestethically speaking, but covered in horrid, horrid gameplay. Also had the single worst 4x AI I've ever seen.
fucker from nowhere shows up
seems in a good mood, lots of positive modifiers
one turn later, declares war
shows up with 3 units
my 15 unit army meets him
kill one unit
the other two retreat
5 turns later, asks for peace
deny
approach his city with my army
offers the city and every resource+energy he has for peace
take it
10 turns later
declares war again
Now repeat this 7 times until he was down to his capital. Noone of the other 6 players were declaring war or DOING ANYTHING so I just razed the city hoping to provoke them with the "WARMONGER" penalty.
Sure enough, 2 guys declare war at the same time
approach me with 3 and 4 units
kill one of each
they retreat
Repeat a dozen times again for each of their cities. It was fucking pathetic.

Best Civ Game
How is this a discussion? If anyone has doubts, fire up Alpha Centauri again. It still holds up and better than modern Civ.
Hard pick between it and Civ 4, but the way The Planet works is a mechanic you just don't have in Civ 4 and it adds a TON of charm and possibilities to the game.

Brayden Foster
Brayden Foster

Have you tried playing on something other than prince? I'm not saying he gets smarter but he sure as hell sends more than 3-4 units at you.

Alexander Clark
Alexander Clark

You do realise that a lot of people didn't play on PC when they were younger, yes?
The fuck is a newmenium even? I understand new, but menium? What

Kevin Lewis
Kevin Lewis

newmeniums
It's like you tried to fuse the words "millenial" and "nu-male" and it just doesn't work. Millenial would've worked just fine.

In any case, Alpha Centauri is the best. CIV comes a close second.

Jace Martinez
Jace Martinez

It's like menium but new. :^) Since when do consolefags count as people?

Jose Murphy
Jose Murphy

Are you making this up to bait me?

Aiden Robinson
Aiden Robinson

IV is the best but III had some novel features I wish they woulda kept.

III also had the best soundtrack.

Brandon Russell
Brandon Russell

How about you stop projecting and educate yourself?

Julian Gomez
Julian Gomez

God this brings back memories.I need to reinstall Civ III.

Adam Hill
Adam Hill

Alright user you got me good, you win this one

Luis Young
Luis Young

you just proved to be a bunch of young entitled faggots
here is lengthy explanation why:

original civ released 1990, till 2000s civ 2 and 3 and AC came along, thus, only really old faggots lived to enjoy it at the time,
to give a perspective, this was windows 95 and 98…. XP was a luxury
I played then, but was a bit too young to appreciate and understand (even when english wasn't my primary language),
but still I played the heck out of 3 and AC on its time

fast forward 4 years later came Civ4, it was a fucking wonder being 3d and all, computers were having more than 64 Mbits of memory and were doing wonders,

4 reigned strong as the supreme 4x game for a heck of a long time, with expansion and all, they released the SDK and the community went wild with mods, that was the golden age of Civ, soon after came 5 with all that modern graphics, hex grid, 1upt revolution

needless to say it was a big shock in the community, Civ5 only grew more popular drawing new blood to the franchise in following years
so even thought there is only a 5 year gap between games and expansions (consulting wiki now), there is a generational gap between 4 and 5,
4 being close to the 2000s old fags millennials, while 5 closer to the young fags who started playing gaems from 2010 and never played another civ before

I'll admit I got baited into buying civ5 after it got all in bundle discount, and even then I regret it,
tried to like the game, but it falls really short in comparison with 4, and what I've said before, the modding is what makes 4 special, so you can have awesome stuff like Revolutions and Planet Fall (AC clone)

and just to close it up, since 80s to 2000s fags are called millennials for some reason, I thought I call newmeniums then ones after 2000s, in honor of Newman,
and the fact that you all lost that reference proves how new you are

Benjamin Butler
Benjamin Butler

just to give a reference, I was around 16 with Civ3, I've recently found the original manual of the game brought at the time
even though I pirated fuckin everything else

fuck yeah, 3 was awesome, loved that shit, good recall on the music
and since you brought it up, let me ramp up the nostalgia

Michael Taylor
Michael Taylor

what

Luke Cox
Luke Cox

What's the best Civilization mod and why is it Fall From Heaven 2?

Justin Davis
Justin Davis

Legends of Revolutions
was by far the most polished, expansion alike of the horde, it included all the great stuff, like revolution, bug, better AI, legends

but there was a fuckton of good stuff, I remember Rise and Fall, Community Civ V, and recently found about Realism Invictus, and that was pretty comfy too

Thomas Brown
Thomas Brown

Alpha Centauri is objectively the best civ game. It's not even a question.

Jose Sanchez
Jose Sanchez

bump for young faggots!
anybody, thoughts on GalCiv? big sale on steam

Hunter Young
Hunter Young

bump

Daniel King
Daniel King

Look I liked IV, but I can play V on Linux without a lot of trouble, so I appreciate that.

What I really want is Civ Rev 2 with mods someday.

Jackson Adams
Jackson Adams

These gifs are fucking shitty.

Henry Nguyen
Henry Nguyen

I just couldn't get as much into IV. I couldn't stand how the AI could refuse to let you ask for certain things, but you couldn't do the same to them. I also never had all the expansions, so that probably didn't help. I liked how with the governments in III you had to compromise, take the bad with the good. You couldn't just choose to have the economic bonus and low corruption of Democracy low corruption for democracy lmao but also get the unit support from fascism.

Don't get me wrong, IV is a great game, but it's just not quite as fun as III was in my opinion.

Eli Morris
Eli Morris

At least one person knows.

Not sure why FFH2 was so great but I spent thousands of hours on it in my youth.

Jace Cook
Jace Cook

Would Master of Magic also count?

Jason Nelson
Jason Nelson

I remember reading some huge blogpost on Holla Forums about how Civ III and IV fixed a lot of problems from former iterations and V just shat all over them to be "unique". Are those features among the removed ones?

Angel Nelson
Angel Nelson

Understand, V is a huge departure from what IV aimed to be, from a fundamental design perspective.

The most obvious was how they approached expansion. In IV, you were constrained by a soft cap, based on maintenance, which increases exponentially the more cities you have. It forces you to make choices and when and where to expand, in the early-mid phase of the game, because uncontrolled expansion will dramatically cut down your research. However, ultimately, you're still encouraged to expand because a larger empire means more hammers/coins/beakers. Classic 4X stuff.

In V however, they went with the aim of making "tall" empires viable. To do that, they basically punished the player for expanding. Scaling science costs (IV also had this, but it was pretty small, and easily outweighed by your superior city output), global happiness, "warmonger penalties" and shit like making buildings all cost gold to maintain. It is not uncommon to end the game with just six cities, because that's the "optimal" amount. This was a radical depature from the previous philosophy of encouraging players to eXpand. The very concept of tall vs wide is a concept I absolutely detest in this game.

The second was the boardgame approach they took to V. In IV, the game focused on the macro scale of things like logistics, industrial production and strategic decisions, and combat was mostly abstracted away, as with the previous games. V however, got this bright idea that combat has to be "tactical", and that it should play out like in a boardgame. The end result was a horrific mishmash of a tactical wargame layer, on top of a strategic layer (and combined with the retarded decision for 1upt), which the AI couldn't even cope and would often spaz out. Logistics and production became less important, maneuvering your units around became a thing you have to do. The end result was a shallow tactical battle system, and a shallow strategic system.

Oh and look, I guess I wrote a wall anyway. There's a lot more wrong with V, but I guess I covered the two fundamental problems I had with it.

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