What is THE BEST action-oriented dungeon crawling game?
Bonus points if there is legitimately more to it than dungeon crawling, a surface world or overworld of some sort, and objectives other than "reach the bottom of the labyrinth"
Been playing Barony and it's pretty good in what it does, but I still feel like it's lacking some things that would make it feel like a more full game.
>Has fucking co-op Holy shit, I'm gonna check this out. This is the best thing I've seen all week. Thanks for the tip, OP.
Austin Rodriguez
If you don't already have a co-op buddy for it, I'd be more than happy to play it with you. My usual co-op buddy finds the game far too difficult for him.
Julian Nelson
i dont know THE best, but i know some pretty good ones. check out anvil of dawn
Landon Edwards
The fuck did he mean by that? Combat oriented? Real-time?
Julian Taylor
I think he means not-turn-based.
Bentley Sullivan
Then he can go back to succ dick.
Sebastian White
For turn based I have Nethack and that's all I need.
Dylan Edwards
Wizardry 8 Might & Magic 6 and up
Juan Ortiz
Turn based is for casuals who can't think fast.
Michael Perez
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Connor Russell
While certainly not the best, Legend of Grimrock is a pretty good dungeon crawler.
I guess it's way too fucking late, but in case you ever come back to this thread and still wanna play: /id/bulletwithbutterflywings/
Cooper Anderson
back, thought the thread died 108.173.119.180:25565
Adam Fisher
still won't let me connect
don't know what to tell you
William Rodriguez
shit, I thought my ports were open. think you can host?
Jeremiah Collins
also, just noticed you are on a version higher than me.
Adam Jenkins
It still gets updated.
Anthony Anderson
I suppose Pathways Into Darkness counts as a dungeon crawler.
This game is perfect if you want a BRUTAL challenge: you move slowly, your weapons are weak, ammo and items are very limited, the enemies are strong and numerous, if you try to rest there's a chance you'll be attacked, the levels are seriously complex, there is no in-game map, and there is a strict time limit - not only to get to the bottom level and plant the nuke, but to come all the way back to the entrance before it goes off.
Worth checking out, as it's free now.
Mac only.
Isaiah Ramirez
That game almost looks like it could be fun. The difficulty you describe sounds fucking annoying though.
Luis Foster
King's Field might satisfy you.
Ayden Campbell
well well well
Brody Hill
checked
Christopher Cooper
Seconding this, all of games in the KF series (incl. Shadow Tower) are some of the finest shit the PSX/PS2 ever produced. Depending on your point of view, the art from KF 1-3 has a sort of uncanny feeling to it all. I don't imagine any indie game 'spiritual successor' ever wanting to as faithful to the artstyle of old.
Isaac Harris
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Ayden Nelson
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Samuel Cox
You could take a look at Exanima, main dungeon crawling component only has about 10 hours or so of gameplay at the moment but the combat system is unique so if you're patient enough to get the hang of it, working your way downwards and surviving in the lower levels is genuinely satisfying.
Though really I'd suggest you keep an eye on it and play it after the next big update, which will apparently add a lot to the main game.
Brandon Gutierrez
Those graphics are comfy as fuck.
Grayson Ortiz
It also has old adventure game bullshit like failure conditions that have no prior warning so you need to save all the time. I'd probably try it if I didn't have to fuck around with an old Mac VM.
Charles Williams
Nah you can download basiliskII and emulate old mac operating systems on windows
Luis Rogers
If you can install linux you can install an old OS on basiliskII
Jack Foster
came into this thread just for this This and dark messiah, but dark messiah hasn't got much dungeon drawling, although the parts it does have are great
Chase Brooks
When will they add magic? I want drunken combat mixed with throwing fireballs
Daniel Thomas
They should have been a bit less lazy with the ceilings. Them being so flat is less cavey and more opressingly office-building like.
Blake Moore
Dungeon Master 2 is a personal favorite.
Alexander Williams
hard to find the best but ultima underworld 1 & 2, the kings field games, shadowtower are great. also for new games try out dungeons and darkness, a japanese game in the vein of kings field.
they are all pretty good or at times great. The new underworld game looks mediocre. Expectations are very low for it.
Jeremiah Morgan
Still gets me every time.
Luis Green
Meridian 59.
Jeremiah Rogers
Is this some kind of early alpha or tech demo? I enjoy physics-based combat, but this looks incredibly clunky and it also has that floaty look to it, as though gravity were half its normal value.
Also, if the most effective way to fight an ogre is to run around until its AI glitches and makes it trip, that's kind of shitty. Make it instead demolish everything in its path and not be slowed down by any obstacles, and give the player ways to trip it themselves.
Luis James
Definitely this one, Download the latest unreleased version of Arx Libertatis and pirate Arx Fatalis itself, dont give Zenimax a cent for their bullshit.
This unreleased 1.2 version fixes the rune drawing, now it's a dickload easier, there's a bunch of other stability fixes too, as well as better quality audio.
Also give Dark Messiah Might and Magic a try, it started development as Arx Fatalis 2 but ended up as a spin off Might and Magic game, many elements of Arx Fatalis appear in DMMM but are better refined, especially the combat, but unfortunately not the non linear progression is cut completely, and the open ended interaction is only used within the games combat system.
Hint: You can buy beer off the Tizzy the barmaid by activating your coin purse and then activating Tizzy.
Luis Lewis
Can we please get the Mac and Linux version as well? The Windows version doesn't run under Wine.
Jackson Walker
It's a glorified tech demo and they are keeping it shitty like that for the memes.
Luke Ramirez
It's sad this still isn't close to being done. It's decent as is but just doesn't have enough to keep me playing.
I feel like it's going to be another Overgrowth situation.
Juan Flores
It was plenty easy. The difficulty it had was intentional as a small way to incorporate player skill and concentration into the casting system.
Noah Moore
Do you know of any worthwhile fanmaps for it?
Jace Collins
there's a reason Chess is turnbased :^)
Samuel Morales
Yeah… Because it was made in the past before computers were invented.
Oliver Lopez
because it was created in the sixth fucking century nigga if you wanted to play a real time game you had to play a sport
Bentley James
cut yourself
Isaac James
welp looks like ill pick it up again, thanks
Carson Powell
This. Anvil of Dawn rules.
Nolan Wood
this game's fucking awful
Easton Rogers
OK, looks like the source code is actually available for this game: github.com/TurningWheel/Barony I was able to compile it, but it crashes at startup when it tries loading items. Maybe is an older version of the game that's incompatible.
Leo Watson
I've been playing Delver a bit. Even though it's basically Minecraft Dungeons: The game, I play it alongside Barony pretty regularly.
Thomas Powell
Barony is all right but it has a fair share of problems. The speed is fun but it just becomes a "1 shot enemies and turbo through the level in search of food before you starve" in the end.
Get good you pathetic fucking scrub
Hudson Perez
How is it? Does it have a better late game than Barony?
Hwut? Got a download link because coop dungeon crawling sounds comfy as fuck.
Zachary Wright
Bless you gentle user, allow me to make love to you as payment for your good deed
Leo Barnes
Please do
Jose Russell
Found the issue, the line endings of all text files have to be changed to Unix line endings instead of DOS ones. I also had to copy over the file with the male and female player names from the repository for some reason.
Jaxson Perez
Installing this shit now, I wanna give coop a shot too.
Samuel Carter
What political thing did the creator of Barony do wrong that he's not worth giving money to?
Just wondering.
Easton Jenkins
(checked) Shit I hate to do this, but what's the source? I've completely forgotten about it, I have a weebum of it somewhere but I can't find it.
Benjamin Price
It really just gives a greater margin for error when drawing runes which the original implementation sorely lacks.
I'd need some serious proof that the difficulty was intentional, it just looks to be a limitation of the technology at the time.
Noah Nguyen
I remember meridian 59, damn that's a long time ago.
Brody Powell
Yeah, if he's an SJW fuck him.
Easton Garcia
I'm definitely buying it.
Kayden Morales
I plan to buy it when its closer to being done Or maybe when its got magic Still its meant to be a sort of test for another game they're doing thats open world
Jaxon Adams
DOOM
Eli Baker
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Xavier Bell
there is map though. the self drawing as you progress kind.
Easton Powell
I'd say Hexen is better.
Christopher Ward
Muh niggra. Also new Hexen / Heretic when?
Daniel Cox
The closest I can think of is Ziggurat.
Bentley Clark
This
Mason Ortiz
only one nigga here really gets it. for my money wiz8 is the best dungeon crawler ever made
Connor Lee
Has anything interesting happened with this since the source code was released?
Cameron Lee
I remember playing Heretic 2 with a friend… it was ok but the mistique of the original game was lost. It never truly was a dungeon crawler, only a fantasy Doom.
Bentley Gonzalez
Does Dungeon Siege qualify?
Angel Clark
it is much more simple mechanically than Barony
Michael Wood
I tried it and could not even get into the dungeon before I had to close it and wipe it from my harddrive. I have a smaller monitor and it still looked like I was staring into a bin of oversized toddler Lego blocks. It's fucking hideous and legitimately made me nauseous looking at the screen and trying to figure out what the hell I was looking at. This has got to be the best possible example of "indie pixel shit" I've seen in years.
If you're going to do this go with 4, anything less tends to feel a little plodding and directionless, can't speak for Shadow Tower though.
Ethan Carter
Jesus fuck I'm still on the first original Kings Field game. Does it actually get this spooky in 2?
Isaiah Torres
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Ryder Phillips
Played this years ago. It's hard to imagine a DnD game on the xbox being good but this was great.
Josiah Barnes
Then how would you play old 3D games like Dungeon Keeper 2?
Connor Lewis
If it does, so would Dungeon Lords.
Ayden Wood
Dungeon Lords is actually pretty fun.
Evan Adams
I'm actually re-playing that now. Can't believe how shit I was at this game as a kid.
Hunter Anderson
Don't even fucking compare DK2 with this trash. DK2 had low res uninterpolated textures but rendered on clearly defined 3D models. Everything in Delver looks like a 16^2 sprite scaled to fill the whole screen for a retarded attempt at "retro" which ends up looks worse than anything in the 16-bit era ever did.
Adam Phillips
I am working on a game akin to that description, if that interests anyone
Wouldn't technically System Shock 1 and 2 fit into this category as well?
Thomas Anderson
Dungeon Master and its follow-up Chaos Strikes Back, I guess. Amiga version is technically best (better sound, can drink directly from fountains, etc.)
Austin Baker
The engine only cares about angles, however making the rune drawing easier really helps with combat.
Now since this is the best time to ask what the fuck is the beast, and what the fuck happens to the Trolls and Goblins? The Trolls prove to be smart enough to read a complicated economics book and then we don't get anything about that going, and the beast is a complete mystery.
Joshua Walker
i had a lot of fun with dark alliance 1 and 2, but i dont know if id say theyre THE BEST. same goes for gauntlet legends, if that counts. didnt play dark legacy, but some anons seem to like it.