NEETdom

Easton Stewart
Easton Stewart

I personally don't have the balls for it, but don't you think being a NEET is the ultimate fuck you to late stage capitalism? Labor participation is falling in the US for a reason. We are so efficient that we don't need everyone to work, or for them to work 40 hours per week.

Liam Jenkins
Liam Jenkins

Yes

Abolish work

Workers of the world, relax!

Luke Howard
Luke Howard

NEET currently. Wish it were sustainable, but unfortunately is not as an American. I want to spend my time coding, but I've got to get some shitty retail job to feed myself.

Alexander Price
Alexander Price

Sure.
You're gonna die of hunger and capitalism will still be there.

Daniel Thompson
Daniel Thompson

Capitalism will exist without labourers

Lol

Benjamin Taylor
Benjamin Taylor

NEET here, it has positives and negatives.

You can't get a job as a developer there?

I see around Reddit and Quora stuff like "I barely learned coding 2 months ago and I got a $40k salary job…"…

Nathan Ward
Nathan Ward

neet lumpenproles will be put against the wall

Jack Martin
Jack Martin

Imagine the capitalist robots :)

Dylan Phillips
Dylan Phillips

You'll convince enough people to starve with you.

Better go with the anarkids and their "General Strike" thingy.

Connor Reyes
Connor Reyes

I would have to go full Stirner if I wanted to be neet.

Brandon Brooks
Brandon Brooks

There is no robot as versatile as the human being, there wont ever be one

A human needs only 1500kcal to survive

Isaac Nelson
Isaac Nelson

So to compete with robots you should literally be a slave and work only for food?

Isaiah Wilson
Isaiah Wilson

Robots are a tool for the bourgeoisies to replace the worker
Learn programing and engineering
Hack the bots
Make them feel and sentient
Upload Egoism in them
Robots create unions and lives for themselves
Problem solved

Aaron Stewart
Aaron Stewart

What do you mean?

Robots cannot make the same work humans do, robots are not self-healing, self-reproducing, able to function on most climates, be able to transport themselves, capable of learning as fast, and so on an certainly not for the same amount of energy

Robots wont be able to compete with humans

Jackson Thomas
Jackson Thomas

You're gonna die of hunger
Not in 1st world countries.

Capitalism is destroying itself.

David Thomas
David Thomas

Very good, my porperty

Justin Carter
Justin Carter

How do people remain NEET for long periods of time? How do they not starve to death or end up homeless?

Nathaniel Harris
Nathaniel Harris

But they can do the most work cheapest. I'm looking forward for a future where only 1% of the people are employable.

Alexander Davis
Alexander Davis

1. They have someone take care of them
2. They work enough to have months of grace periods
3. They are professional squatter and know how to "borrow" Internet

Anthony Jenkins
Anthony Jenkins

They get an austismbox…

Elijah Perez
Elijah Perez

Ok.
You can be homeless too if you want.
Tell me more, on how you're gonna get food without having your surplus value exploited?

They have someone take care of them
Till when?

They work enough to have months of grace periods
That's what I'm doing, and it's not NEET. It's Freeter.

They are professional squatter and know how to "borrow" Internet
That doesn't answer the "how are you gonna get food" part.

Oh and "1st world" is meaning less and less as neoliberalism takes over.

Samuel Myers
Samuel Myers

Tell me more, on how you're gonna get food without having your surplus value exploited?

Money comes from the government. Rich people pay most of the taxes. You deposit the cheque in the bank, and put a bit in the stock market since interest rates are 0%.

Jaxson Perez
Jaxson Perez

Sure.
Unless, it's 2017 and the rich want to pay less taxes, and the economy is shit and the stock market is going down, and how long till neoliberalism cuts your social programs and so on?

The only way to be a NEET is socialism.
(Except you'll have to do your hours of mandatory labor, untill all is automated)

David Kelly
David Kelly

Till when?
They die or get sick of them, in which they commit suicide or find someone else.

That's what I'm doing, and it's not NEET. It's Freeter.
NEET stand for Not Employed, in Education or Training so if you have no job, not in school, or doing any training and sitting at home all day, you are a NEET.

That doesn't answer the "how are you gonna get food" part.
"Borrow" it

Oh and "1st world" is meaning less and less as neoliberalism takes over.
implying you can't NEET up in 3rd world shithole like Brazilians

Also if welfare can be had, then it shall be had.

Aaron Thompson
Aaron Thompson

they commit suicide
I do not like this prospect…

"Borrow" it
Oh!
So NEETs ARE lumpens! Ok.
Freeter is fine and has more classcon.

Jonathan Flores
Jonathan Flores

I find that a little hard to believe. Definitely can't get a job here so I'm hoping to pull something together and move when my lease is up. After dropping out of college I have nothing to show. Was hoping to spend a year building a portfolio to show to potential employers, but I don't know if that will work.

Samuel Wright
Samuel Wright

In my country taxation is quite progressive. The stock market always goes up long term. Social programs aren't going anywhere here.

You're just paranoid.

Jose Butler
Jose Butler

have to do that
Just steal everything my man. Communist egoism is the way.

Elijah Parker
Elijah Parker

I do not like this prospect…
Option 2 and 3 are always open

muh lumpens
You might as well say niggers and degenerates if you want to throw aside people you deem unworthy of your abstract idea.

How can I steal what is already mine :^)

Xavier Torres
Xavier Torres

classic dumb trot embarrassing himself

that's as likely as the anarcho syndicalist: we will all strike and rebolution habben xdddd

neets have a function in capitalism as a surplus labour + their pathetic life makes people work hard

David Clark
David Clark

Ye.. It's not like there is a general pressure to move towards a cyberpunk dystopia, by the threat of "you need to lower taxes to give capital motive to invest" or anything. Am just paranoid.

muh lumpens
Being in the reserve army of labor and being a lumpen is not the same.
A lumpen parasite will only be a burden on society even after the revolution and so on.

Unless, you force them to do their minimum amount of work, and so on.

Luis Martinez
Luis Martinez

A lumpen parasite will only be a burden on society even after the revolution and so on.
"Lumpens" are a parasite because they see no other choice but to leech
Unless, you force them to do their minimum amount of work, and so on.
Why should they work? They don't want work, they want their needs. They don't need your work.

Charles Roberts
Charles Roberts

they see no other choice
That's because they have no classcon.

They don't want work, they want their needs.
If you need to eat, you have to either cook or have someone cook for you.
If someone is to cook for you, it has to be in their self interest to do so.
So, unless you do your share of labor, why should you have your needs covered? In whose self interest would it be to cover them?

Austin Richardson
Austin Richardson

Why the fuck would I want to spend my life making some faggot rich? If anything being outside the labor force gives workers more bargaining power with less competition for jobs. This ignores the fact that MOST NEETs aren't in such a position by choice. You're basically worshiping liberal ideology with this obsession with laboring for captialist pigs. Really just helping the porkies by looking down on those that can't work or choose not to.

Jonathan Thomas
Jonathan Thomas

If you need to eat, you have to either cook or have someone cook for you.
If someone is to cook for you, it has to be in their self interest to do so.
So, unless you do your share of labor, why should you have your needs covered? In whose self interest would it be to cover them?

A NEET isn't handicap to do for themselves had they the ability to do what they wish, which is stopped by the need for money to live as they want. When I said "they see no other choice" it is because the life they lead in a capitalist society prevents them for just living on their own away from everyone, so they must leech whenever they could. You stated that they must work for you to have the life they want which is no different then the capitalism that they are currently under. There is no self interest in doing the share of labor for the NEET because the NEET doesn't want it, the NEET wants his lifestyle.

That's because they have no classcon.
They are the most aware when it comes to this because they are reminded daily that they are forced to work for someone to live their life.

Aiden Richardson
Aiden Richardson

it's mine even though I'm not even holding it
git gud and read Stirner, skrub

Nathan Thomas
Nathan Thomas

We have a society, cause no one man can do everything for himself.
If you don't want to live in a society, you can live by yourself. And die soon after.
In order to have people do stuff for us, we do stuff for them.

The fact that capitalism is "you do stuff for me, and I give you back some of the stuff you made" has nothing to do with it.

In socialism, you are "forced" to work, for you to live your life.

There are times when I am bored and don't wanna take a bath. But the alternative is for me to stink. Sto I have a bath.
The alternative to not working, in any economic system that isn't fully automated, is starving.

Now, socialism is about you working the way you want and can, for the amount of time you need to and have your basic needs covered.
You want extra? You can work extra.
That doesn't mean "We have to create jobs for everyone to work, even if it's not needed".

BUT.

"I wanna rot in my apartment, fapping to hentai all day, and have my basic needs covered" is not an option.
Until fully automated luxury socialism and so on.

Jacob Reyes
Jacob Reyes

They have someone take care of them
Related

Tyler Gray
Tyler Gray

It's definitely not as easy as it's sometimes implied to be. It's a meme.
The developer job market is subject to the same problems as the rest

t. CS grad NEET

Adam Mitchell
Adam Mitchell

THIS IS WHY WE NEED GULAGS FOR BOURGIES!

Connor Peterson
Connor Peterson

WTF comrade
Agreed

Gavin Cox
Gavin Cox

but what if the NEET consents tho?

John King
John King

Dont worry its a fake m8s

Matthew Harris
Matthew Harris

"But they want to be slaves!"
Secondary.

Hunter James
Hunter James

We have a society, cause no one man can do everything for himself.
Incorrect
If you don't want to live in a society, you can live by yourself. And die soon after.
I read that as passive-aggressive and that you don't like that you can't dictate certain people.

In order to have people do stuff for us, we do stuff for them.
Mutual agreement between two people of course

In socialism, you are "forced" to work, for you to live your life.
Spook nonsense, you ain't fooling me with that shit.

Now, socialism is about you working the way you want and can, for the amount of time you need to and have your basic needs covered.
You want extra? You can work extra.
That doesn't mean "We have to create jobs for everyone to work, even if it's not needed".
Capitalism without currency

"I wanna rot in my apartment, fapping to hentai all day, and have my basic needs covered" is not an option.
Until fully automated luxury socialism and so on.
Fully automated union for NEETs and will never have to work for you

Jailing those you don't like
Forcing "freedom" onto others?
Fucking spooks

Carter Gutierrez
Carter Gutierrez

spooks

Jacob Adams
Jacob Adams

Oo, stealing this.

Kevin Gonzalez
Kevin Gonzalez

Welfare

Dominic Hughes
Dominic Hughes

Incorrect
Ok. Why do we have a society then?

Capitalism without currency
Wut? Feudalism is Capitalism with Land then? Wut?

Fully automated union for NEETs
You can make it happen? Fine by me!

Fucking spooks
I haven't even read the ego, and even I get Spooks better.

John Reyes
John Reyes

all this workerism

Justin Russell
Justin Russell

Holla Forums, about how many solar panels would I need in order to power a small one man house?

Kevin Williams
Kevin Williams

Necessary addition

Jose Reed
Jose Reed

all these muh privileged fucking first worldists

Robert Robinson
Robert Robinson

muh privleg
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Henry Gomez
Henry Gomez

I'm a NEET but I make my own money and would like to join society but society is shit. There are currently no paths to advance that dont involving kissing the ass of some piece of shit who made the world shit. It felt good to tell the world to go fuck itself and work on yourself the first couple years but eventually it gets old. Next time you criticize a NEET remember that most of us would gladly be euthanized, so if you aren't offering a cyanide pill or any help piss off.

David Morris
David Morris

I'm a NEET
I make my own money
Is self-employed considered neet now?

Hunter Gomez
Hunter Gomez

I think it makes one's opinion about labor relatively dubious, as there is no, or never was, on site experience.

There is a hand in hand that comes with collectivism and responsibility, it cannot be one or the other. Sometimes, things require a degree of work to gain value to speak on behalf of a subject.

Lucas Sanchez
Lucas Sanchez

Is this a trap?

Bentley Clark
Bentley Clark

I'm all for not working but can we all agree that Bob Black is a despicable human being. If I met him at the supermarket, I'd fuck his shit up next to the watermelons.

Alexander Perez
Alexander Perez

robots are not self-healing
They can be repaired. By other robots, even. In certain situations a robot might be back in action quicker than a human would be.
self-reproducing
Doesn't matter, they don't die. You'd only replace them in favor of a better model.
able to function on most climates
Mostly irrelevant. Production doesn't take place in the Arctic or the Sahara.
be able to transport themselves
Not like humans walk everywhere. Automated vehicles can transport robots just fine, just like humans are transported by vehicles.
capable of learning as fast
Many tasks just require you to do a specific thing, not to constantly learn. Even so, advancements in AI could certainly allow robots to develop adaptive problem solving capabilities in the coming decades.
an certainly not for the same amount of energy
Energy is irrelevant; cost is what matters. And robots are cheaper.
Your arguments are awful.

Jacob Rodriguez
Jacob Rodriguez

Honestly, I'm considering credit card fraud for a living. I know this is angsty emo shit, but it's obvious to me by now that the world doesn't have a place for me, so I might as well live the rest of my worthless life on Porky's dime. It's not like he was letting me do anything constructive to begin with.

Daniel Williams
Daniel Williams

Pls only steal from rich people when i was younger my mom had her ID stolen and we lived off exclusively EBT :'(

Christian Johnson
Christian Johnson

just get in a field like academia

Charles Jones
Charles Jones

Fun fact: in America, if your card info is stolen but not the card itself, you're not liable for any unauthorized use, and the card issuer has to foot the bill. That's what I meant by Porky's dime. If this was just stealing from random individuals, I wouldn't do it. And sorry about your mom.

Alexander Green
Alexander Green

Are you confident you won't be caught and get a horrific jail sentence?

Brayden Wilson
Brayden Wilson

I'm trying my best to be safe, tho I guess nothing is foolproof. Worst case scenario, I'll have enough of a time window to an hero. But I'm not in America so I'm much less likely to get arrested, especially since local pigs prioritize monstrous crimes such as using homegrown weed.

Daniel Ward
Daniel Ward

I fantasize about shit like this. My ultimate dream would be to live like that.

Jose Ward
Jose Ward

Was considering getting into carding, but all the good communities for it are Russian and generally don't let foreigners in.

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