Magdalen Berns

Adam Fisher
Adam Fisher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnrOLhx6L3c

Is she /ourgirl/?

All urls found in this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnrOLhx6L3c
https://libcom.org/library/gender-nihilism-anti-manifesto
https://www.facebook.com/public/Misty-Blaze
http://www.feministcurrent.com/2016/12/26/lesbian-spaces-still-needed-no-matter-what-queer-movement-says/
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/gender-dysphoria
Kevin Phillips
Kevin Phillips

talking while high on ketamine
jumpcuts

couldn't watch more than 1 minute

Jace Taylor
Jace Taylor

She doesn't sound high, just tired, like she made this vid at 3AM.

Nicholas Brooks
Nicholas Brooks

No videos about economics
Nothing even remotely leftist
Op is a retard

Nathaniel Rogers
Nathaniel Rogers

TERF
/ourgirl/

Tyler Taylor
Tyler Taylor

Most of her videos are anti-idpol. She's basically a feminist Zizek.

Landon Thompson
Landon Thompson

Ain't nothing wrong with TERFs. They expose a lot of the bullshit from the ivory tower concerning useless gender theory.

Daniel Torres
Daniel Torres

muh trannies

Let's not throw away hundreds of years of theory and struggle just to appease a bunch of arguably ill males.

Aiden Baker
Aiden Baker

All the videos are about gender bullshit that any other braindead YouTube anti sjw can debunk

Ethan Perry
Ethan Perry

Most anti-SJWs are right-wing and classcucked as fuck.

Jeremiah Foster
Jeremiah Foster

Yes, and she isn't?

Michael Wright
Michael Wright

Feminists in general don't have a lot of room to call others' studies useless theory.

Lincoln Perez
Lincoln Perez

She isn't right-wing.

Blake Campbell
Blake Campbell

She tells people at the 9:45 mark to read Marx.

Sebastian Cook
Sebastian Cook

Opinions on gender politics isn't what determine whether you are a leftist or not

Brandon Rivera
Brandon Rivera

guy like Jimmy Dore who never references Marx/Engels.etc directly or tells his substantial vewiership to read any marxist theory
leftypol considers him a comrade
women actually does do those things
leftypol doubts her leftist credentials

You guys have problems.

Ian Cox
Ian Cox

This.

Second Wave Feminism was very Marxist-influenced.

Kevin Johnson
Kevin Johnson

being this spooked

Cameron Johnson
Cameron Johnson

From a Marxist perspective, the TERF position is much more materialist.

Chase Morris
Chase Morris

Literally every fucking video is calling someone for not being a lesbian or saying why trans people are bad. Who gives a fuck about this shit?

Fucking Russel brand namedrops Marx too, guess he's a bona fide comrade too

Hunter Hernandez
Hunter Hernandez

It's a class-based analysis of gender.

Parker Cruz
Parker Cruz

Political lesbianism is kind of lame I know but it at least has its roots in actual marxist theory, unlike most trans* stuff. That's my whole point. She is an actual marxist and yet people here still doubt whether she is truly a leftist.

Easton Williams
Easton Williams

Barely

Jeremiah Lee
Jeremiah Lee

It's much more class-based than trans politics.

Aaron Campbell
Aaron Campbell

uses the term "spooked"
obviously a Stirnerite
implying that Marx's opinion (even though given an anachronistic appeal) is going to be relevant to them

gender essentialists
stop the identity politics
https://libcom.org/library/gender-nihilism-anti-manifesto

Jacob Nguyen
Jacob Nguyen

Gender isn't something you can just op out of.

Isaac Garcia
Isaac Garcia

Gender doesn't exist. There is no sexual rapport you stupid faggot. Read Lacan.

Owen Wood
Owen Wood

dude just ignore hundreds of years of non-bourgeois feminist political theory because spooks lol

Really?

Jayden Torres
Jayden Torres

you're not a feminist because you don't cater to my particular fantasy
k

I don't like TERFs but FERFs are just as bad if not worse.

Robert Ward
Robert Ward

ffs…you sound like the retarded fake leftist teachers i had in university. Everyday was Lacan this, Zizek that. Waste of time

Jace Murphy
Jace Murphy

you're not a real leftist because uh….MATERIALISM
BTFO
Thanks.

Dominic Thompson
Dominic Thompson

And Lacan was an idealist.

Isaac Gutierrez
Isaac Gutierrez

He was an materialist with ideas.

Henry Powell
Henry Powell

lmao yes it is

Landon Perez
Landon Perez

He was a closeted Hegelian who denied being one.

It seems that way if you're male.

Jason White
Jason White

It seems that way if you're male.

that is the dumbest thing I've read all day

Austin Hall
Austin Hall

Yeah man I just put on a dress and BAM I'm a woman! See how easy it is to opt out of gender (especially when you have been socialized as a man)?

Do you even listen yourself?

Hunter Thompson
Hunter Thompson

are you stupid
you havent established that I cannot opt out, but that I cannot move between the two

Adrian Lewis
Adrian Lewis

A woman can't just imagine her genitals and socialization away.

Gavin Thompson
Gavin Thompson

"Our attack on the bourgeoisie," wrote Engels, "distinguishes itself as much from that of the true socialists as it does from that of the reactionary nobility, e.g., of the French legitimists or of Young England. The German status quo cannot exploit our attack because it is directed even more strongly against it than the bourgeoisie. If the bourgeoisie is, so to speak, our natural enemy whose overthrow will bring our party to power, the German status quo is much more our enemy because it stands between us and the bourgeoisie. That is why we do not in the least exclude ourselves from the oppositional mass movement against the German status quo. We constitute only its most advanced faction—a faction which through its unconcealed unconcealed arriere-pensee against the bourgeoisie assumes a definite position"

David Williams
David Williams

her genitals arent her gender

her socialization never ends in a world of perpetual learning - and can take her in any which way

Robert Diaz
Robert Diaz

Why you reducing people to their genitals you pervert
And people's socialization is through their own, not their genitals

Grayson Gonzalez
Grayson Gonzalez

ITT: People who aren't women tell women that they can just stop being women as if they have experience doing that.

Blake Baker
Blake Baker

Female gender essentialists should just never leave the kitchen tbh

Mason Sanders
Mason Sanders

Calling a TERF anti idpol is like calling a huwhite nationalist anti idpol.

David Watson
David Watson

Transpeople are the undisputed masters of pure idpol, since their "identity" is generally understood as a mistake of biology rather than of the social order.

Jaxson Allen
Jaxson Allen

Decent video with good points.

she should probably legit lay off the Xanax a bit though

Ryder Cook
Ryder Cook

ITT: People who reduce people to their genitals tell women that they can just stop being women as if they have experience doing that.

Parker Ortiz
Parker Ortiz

What if it's neither and your attempt to bring it down to your level of idpol says more about you than it does them?

Lincoln Rogers
Lincoln Rogers

all the second wave sexual frustration

It's obvious that she just wants/needs some big leftist dick. Just look at how stressed out and tired she looks.

Hudson Morales
Hudson Morales

Would nail tbh

oooh, oooh, anfem fite

its like watching primitive apes shove shit in each others mouths

Grayson Myers
Grayson Myers

We are all eating from trashcan. And apparently you'd like to add to that landfill.

Mason Lopez
Mason Lopez

the wonderful place where we all shit where we eat

Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

Love in the time of cholera.

Julian Anderson
Julian Anderson

its like watching primitive apes shove shit in each others mouths
This would be more interesting to look upon than any more of their posts tbh

Aiden Gonzalez
Aiden Gonzalez

Terfs have more in common withe rightwingers, they are like old white ladies who thought their "progress" would freeze in the 90's, but they didn't realize liberals are mentally ill and will keep pushing eternal progress without any end goal.

The problem is that the left has left them behind, and the right wing fucking hatesssssssssssssssss feminism in all forms.

So now there is like some cabal of like 20 crazy cat ladies who hate trannies.

So radfems hate trannies like rightwingers
But are feminists like leftwingers.
And they arent accepted by either.

Radfems either need to compromise with one side or get over themselves.

Nathan Baker
Nathan Baker

TIL TERF is the left's equivalent of the anti-Semitic Zionists on /pol/ and otherwise

Brandon Young
Brandon Young

No seriously, the dynamic is the same.

Hates Jews but is complicit in helping them form a state
Hates men but is complicit in maintaining the rigid gender binary

Xavier Jackson
Xavier Jackson

Your name is now 'TERF anfem'. Please get an appropriate tripcode.

Caleb Perez
Caleb Perez

It makes mores sense for Israelis when you think about it, Zionist benefits from antisemitism outside of Israel because it would force jews to move to israel.

Terfs are just : "reeeeeeeeeeeeee no real womans ""

Jordan Barnes
Jordan Barnes

compromise

Robert Young
Robert Young

TERFs benefit from hatred of women in that it will scare up women and even well-meaning men into feminism, and since they can now "keep those women under their wings" it is perhaps reinforced in the minds of the men that they are just the ignorant, unfair sex inherently.

Jordan Flores
Jordan Flores

user you KNOW that's bullshit
there's nothing "materialist" about excluding people because of a single aspect of their psychology

Leo Campbell
Leo Campbell

mysogy­n­y

tbh this board should also wordfilter misandry since it claims to be against idpol

Josiah Garcia
Josiah Garcia

western feminists have pretty much equality, they get to go to work and be slaves to capitalism like men too.
They get to feel empowered in their femininity by consuming products based around the commodification of feminism.

Remember to always drink coke™ or you arent a real empowered and strong womens

Oliver Rivera
Oliver Rivera

well then have fun becoming old cat ladies no one likes then dying out.

Ethan Brown
Ethan Brown

Daily reminder that TERF is basically a slur among mtf trans circles and is essentially a form of miso-gyny directed at cis women.

Gavin King
Gavin King

oh no they said a bad word, mommy help me those dangerous radicals wanna uproot society completely and destroy the family!!!!111

Anthony Martinez
Anthony Martinez

Hates men but is complicit in maintaining the rigid gender binary

but remember most trans do this by simply existing

Charles Hall
Charles Hall

t. Misty Blaze (or whatever stupid porn star-esque name you gave yourself after you decided that you were a female.)

Jackson Perez
Jackson Perez

Also, you should know as a feminist that women are free to choose to be feminist or not. Just because you criticize a feminist doesn't mean you are criticizing them as a women (because even males can be feminist).

Austin Edwards
Austin Edwards

terf is a slur
among mtf trans circles
Do you honestly think trans people should think kindly of terfs? Terf is a slur like fash is a slur.

Jonathan Watson
Jonathan Watson

Serious question? Why do MtFs do this? Why can't you call yourself Monica or Laura?

Andrew Sanders
Andrew Sanders

trans people are enforcing the gender binary because they want to change their sex to something else or mute it completely
trans people are enforcing the gender binary so I'm going to assume this stereotypical bimbo name that could be given to any women

Carson Jenkins
Carson Jenkins

trans people are enforcing the gender binary because they bought into a spook and want to conform to a behavioral norm they think they are excluded from

fixed that for you

Andrew Wright
Andrew Wright

https://www.facebook.com/public/Misty-Blaze

wow

look at all these girls named misty blaze

it's almost as if you're a SWERF and a slut shamer tooo……~

I could be wrong, but I think it's the opposite, that others are trying to include them in a norm and force them into conforming to said "spook."

Brandon Reyes
Brandon Reyes

It's more like "degenerate" (or any number of right wing slurs) really. I mean they are "punching down" at females from the position of males after all.

Gabriel Sanders
Gabriel Sanders

clearly the solution to dealing with trans issues is to kill them all

should i switch to stalin flair yet

Justin Kelly
Justin Kelly

A lot of trans folk are teenagers when they first come out, and so they enjoy unique, cool sounding names. It's the same reason people that age making OC's will give them names like Ebony Dark'ness.
trans people punching down
I can't believe you actually think this

Jose Butler
Jose Butler

and so they enjoy unique, cool sounding names.

theyre all porn star names or generic white girl names

Chase Fisher
Chase Fisher

from the position of males after all

Yeah, see this is why no one buys your shit when you accuse others of idpol. What happened to standing up for yourself, instead of asking men and "men" and """men""" and """"men"""" to baby you?

Gabriel Scott
Gabriel Scott

Porn stars like choosing unique names too

Carson Ortiz
Carson Ortiz

But they shouldn't. If a person is for equality they should call themselves humanists. Feminism only cares about women and nobody else.

Colton Morgan
Colton Morgan

they should call themselves humanists

Jacob Carter
Jacob Carter

we better get ready for more of these

thank mr wolff

Jeremiah Thomas
Jeremiah Thomas

I've used Holla Forums for over a year.

Caleb Flores
Caleb Flores

Feminism and humanism aren't contradictory and I don't know why you think it is. If there's so much infighting amongst feminism, what makes you think that "humanist," a definition so broad that it encompasses all of human society, would be at all a useful term on its own?

Andrew Murphy
Andrew Murphy

We aren't asking to be babied. We just want males to stop beating on us and holding us down. We want to work together as equals. However that doesn't excuse miso-gyny on your end.

Joseph Allen
Joseph Allen

newfag

Jace Clark
Jace Clark

We just want males to stop beating on us and holding us down.

but vanilla is so boooring

Joseph Ward
Joseph Ward

Humanism has as one of the main values that of being internationalist, it aspires to a universal human nation, but it does not want a uniform world, but a multiple, multiple world in ethnicities, languages and customs; Beliefs, atheism and religiosity; Humanism does not want leaders or bosses, nor anyone who feels like a representative of anything. Another very important value belonging to universalist humanism is active nonviolence as a means of acting in the world, or like Mario Rodrigues Luis Cobos says: "Nothing above the human being and no human beneath another."

Julian Baker
Julian Baker

What's misogy­nistic is that you're pretending to be the protector of all things feminine. What's woman hateric is that you assumed anyone here was trans, or anyone's gender for that matter when you're on a fucking anonymous imageboard. What's woman hateric is that your standards are so low for women that you're basically pleading with an imaginary symbol for tolerance instead of strengthening yourself making yourself self-sufficient and holding yourself accountable for your mistakes.

Jonathan Collins
Jonathan Collins

Reported.

Julian Fisher
Julian Fisher

Based.

Grayson Myers
Grayson Myers

So liberal tolerance that doesn't put a dent on anyone's MO.

Aaron Martinez
Aaron Martinez

Fuck TERFs

Ryder Miller
Ryder Miller

JESUS CHRIST she looks like muke

Levi Cruz
Levi Cruz

Ted Cruz…

William Gonzalez
William Gonzalez

You know radical feminists think class is idpol right, they think sex is the only meaningful contradiction

Michael Cruz
Michael Cruz

THIS
IT'S FEMALE VERSION OF MUKE

Gavin Hughes
Gavin Hughes

fucking this

Jackson Harris
Jackson Harris

Every anti-trans person only mentions MTF and completely ignores FTM
ahhh

As far as Magdalen Berns goes, her leftist /socialist views are pretty cool, but the things she says about trans people (such as myself) are honestly fucking ridiculous. I remember she made one video about lesbians having sex with a non-op trans woman and tried to say it was a form of rape ffs.

Anyway TERF is a dumb term. I've literally never talked to a "TERF" who didn't believe that trans people deserve some sort of help and didn't have a place in discourse about patriarchy. So I don't think "Trans exclusionary" is an accurate word to describe them.

Logan Williams
Logan Williams

Muke got a sex change and got addicted to downers

David Morales
David Morales

kek if MFT end up becoming over the top women embracing bimbo lifestyle and fill they face with make up, i bet FTM become super macho dudes that enjoy getting drunk and getting into fights with random people that look at them funny.

Jonathan Adams
Jonathan Adams

Well from what i have seen in resaerch a lot of mtf trannies are porn addicted sissies who want to look like porn stars, and ftm's are a bunch of autistic retards who read too much yaoi also have Frankenstein penis's

Jaxson Torres
Jaxson Torres

I have one FTM friend, he's a bit of an edgelord but more in a goofy weeaboo/metalhead way than a barfight toughguy way.
He's really sweet tho.

Carson Lewis
Carson Lewis

kill yourself freak

Brody Taylor
Brody Taylor

This is very strange to me because almost every trans person I've met IRL has been a trans dude. I'm glad trans guys haven't been sensationalized in media the same way trans women have, I think that's the reason why reactionaries don't usually bring them up

Jack Diaz
Jack Diaz

It's true, and there's a ton of implications that come from this observation. I think Julia Serano was right when she said that society has an unhealthy obsession with "men becoming women" be they gay, drag queens, crossdressers, trans women, some kind of fluid agender (but MAAB). This of course inevitably results in the invisibility of FAAB people. Trans men, lesbians, the rare "drag king" et al. completely ignored by society.

Now here's the most disturbing part: even within the LGBT this occurs, in the form of the way in which lesbians and FAAB people are more harshly criticized than cis men and MAAB people. Trans men will begin transition and right off the bat be told they are entering a world of muh privilege. There are articles like "Do Trans men have a place in feminism?"
http://www.feministcurrent.com/2016/12/26/lesbian-spaces-still-needed-no-matter-what-queer-movement-says/
Lesbian bars are being shut down or reformed left and right. Bars will attempt to have WLW nights (which are almost always inclusive to trans women) and they will be attacked by various queer, nonbinary people etc. for not being inclusive enough. This does not seem to stop until the word "lesbian" is blotted out completey. Meanwhile, gay bars go on without a hitch. Despite making it clear that they are a male space intended for men, nobody criticizes gay bars, nobody called them "non-inclusive" none of that.

And then of course, I point out that while people are making statuses that say things like "kill all TERFs" "Beat up a TERF today!" meanwhile every TERF I know has been entirely open to discourse. I've come to common ground with what people call "TERFs" quite regularly. Meanwhile there are cis men, even GAY cis men (I'm looking at you Milo) who throw shit at us, call us freaks, call us subhuman and yes, actively beat us, assault us, even kill us.

Brody Garcia
Brody Garcia

further proof tankies are cancer

Grayson Thomas
Grayson Thomas

Transgerderism is a consequence of capitalism and our narcisist times. Those people need help and no, i'm not a tankie.
Ultimately i don't care about what people do to their own bodies, but then don't come crying that it wasn't like how you expected and making videos like that one Riley MTF shaming me for not wanting to have sex or a relationship with him.

Ian Morgan
Ian Morgan

Removes tankie icon
I'm not a tankie
lol
i think

Jacob Sullivan
Jacob Sullivan

This is a good post, user. You're luckier than me with your interactions, I've never met a terf that had any respect for trans people. But I think you're spot on, the LGBT community can be pretty garbage. "Is X really a part of Y?" is always a red flag for me.

This is a major problem for the left, and accounts for most of my sympathy for places like /r/socialism, no marginalized group is going to want to fight for a cause that treats them like dirt or like an object, especially when they regard their own cause as a diversion at the same time. Solidarity is powerful but extremely difficult to cultivate and maintain.

Jonathan Anderson
Jonathan Anderson

That's probably because your idea of"respect" is "let's transwomen speak for the cis women experience" which is of course something that no feminist group should ever do.

Jack Johnson
Jack Johnson

Feminism is CIA you fucking idiots, "hey err working class trans people are oppressing booj academic feminists"

STOP DIVIDING THE CLASS

Nathaniel Green
Nathaniel Green

But nobody does that you greasy nerd
Transwomen speak through a woman experience and they won't ever speak for "dae cis women experience".

Nicholas Fisher
Nicholas Fisher

Nope, you should never attempt to make your politics conform with the trends of the day. And all of politics can't be divided into a monolithic left-wing and right-wing in the first place you idiot.

Jordan Howard
Jordan Howard

They do though– if they decide to. There's no language that you can use to challenge them. See Brianna Wu.

Juan Miller
Juan Miller

Well I don't care for Brianna Wu
POWERWORDS: If they decide to
Don't feel threatened

Anthony Phillips
Anthony Phillips

The only thing TERFs have going for them is that they're not SWERFS.

Ryan James
Ryan James

How the FUCK is transgenderism consistent with DiaMat?

Christopher Turner
Christopher Turner

TERF's are SWERF's as well 90% of the time so you can't even say that about them.

Jace Adams
Jace Adams

"transgenderism" is a great way to signpost that you have no idea what you're talking about. People having gender dysphoria has nothing to do with dialectal materialism.

Josiah Ross
Josiah Ross

Because their conception of womanhood comes from male experience. anime, videogames and comic books.

Chase Evans
Chase Evans

This is pure ideology.

Grayson Wood
Grayson Wood

I agree.

Leo Foster
Leo Foster

implying I am trans myself

Jacob Price
Jacob Price

Thank you OP. I now understand what a 'TERF' is.
If I expressed my opinions about gender and sex on Reddit, I would've been banned from nearly every left-wing subreddit a year ago.

Jayden Campbell
Jayden Campbell

Lesbian radfem

Xavier Parker
Xavier Parker

"Trans women are willful women; women who have to insist on being women, who have to keep insisting, again and again, often in the face of violent and repeated acts of misgendering. Any feminists who do not stand up, who do not wave their arms to protest against this misgendering, have become straightening rods" -Sara Ahmed, Living A Lesbian Life

Anthony Lopez
Anthony Lopez

Radical lesbianism was wrong on every particular as well as in general

James Wilson
James Wilson

Transwomen are males who have been socialized as men who for whatever reason decide to live life as women. Let's not romanticize them.

Cameron Roberts
Cameron Roberts

who for whatever reason decide to live life as women
wowww i wonder what that reason is
http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/gender-dysphoria

Juan Nelson
Juan Nelson

Radical Feminist Literature
Using a discriminatory word to describe trans women invented by pornographers and chasers

The hypocrisy is glaring.

Jacob Thomas
Jacob Thomas

language policing

This is why no one likes transpeople. It's also why most left wing forums are fucking impossible to use.

Josiah Diaz
Josiah Diaz

cmon man just let me call you a slur stop holding up the discourse
there's a special gulag for people like you.

Levi Davis
Levi Davis

whining about "shemale" on a site where casually throwing around words like "bitch", "cunt", and other derogatory slurs against women is fairly common

Oh I see. It's OK when cis women are the target but god forbid someone slight the trans* community in a minor way with their language. I guess that's what happens when you live most of your life as a man.

Zachary Lee
Zachary Lee

blaming me for what other people say
I haven't used those words even fucking once.

Juan Cruz
Juan Cruz

Reminder that Janice Raymond thinks pointing out that class exists is oppressive identity politics

Also why do the radfems say trans issues where created in the 90s when this book came out in the late seventies?

Leo Harris
Leo Harris

cunt
derogatory slur against women

fuck off you american cunt, it's a gender neutral term

Thomas Fisher
Thomas Fisher

I've honestly never met or talked to an anti-trans radfem that actually knew what gender dysphoria was and why trans people transition.

Brayden Gomez
Brayden Gomez

Capitalist here. It warms my heart to see our idpol psyop tearing apart the left in this thread. Too bad Evan McMuffin has made the CIA into a bunch of Hillshills. He needs to shut up.

This is how we destroyed Occupy Wall Street.

This is how we will transition into AI gaining the legal status of corporations and owning everything. The proletariat will become extinct.

10,000 years of property and hierarchy awaits.

Eli Nguyen
Eli Nguyen

God, it's incredible the amount of time out of my life I have to take to tell you why you're a fucking asshole. I'm so ambivalent about it that it split my post in two.

whining about "shemale"
I've talked to a woman who heard that word from a moving vehicle accompanied by a glass bottle aimed straight for her fucking head. Don't tell me I'm whining.

slight the trans* community in a minor way with their language
It's not minor. It's like nigger. It's not funny, its not casual, it's not normal. It's dehumanizing. It inextricably links us to porn and the sexual interests of men.

Jaxon King
Jaxon King

It's not minor. It's like nigger. It's not funny, its not casual, it's not normal. It's dehumanizing. It inextricably links us to porn and the sexual interests of men.

those sexual interests arent those solely of men
youre movement is shit and youre a retard

mods why is this thread still here

Michael Mitchell
Michael Mitchell

the cis women experience
implying there is only one "cis" "woman" experience
Get some class analysis you stupid borgie.

Tyler Green
Tyler Green

How the fuck is not changing your productive forces not dialectical materialism????

Jeremiah Murphy
Jeremiah Murphy

-1 not*

Michael Roberts
Michael Roberts

picrelated
eh bullshit. Consider transgender oppression. Of course input from other people is permissible. But if you want to know what it's like to be a trans person in, say, America, ask a fucking trans person. That's all we're saying. Discourse can come from anyone, but those who live as trans people are the only ones who can provide accurate information on which to base said discourse.

Carter Cruz
Carter Cruz

I just want to say this is some high quality bait. Nicely done.

Joshua Wright
Joshua Wright

Childhood sexual trauma?

Joshua Diaz
Joshua Diaz

What does one opinion matter to the advancement of all? I am not saying we need to exclude people, no, I am saying that even among transgendered people there are a diverse amount of plans for what should be done, and how we should be doing it. Rights-based equality encounters this distinctive problem all the time; there are just too many rights. The conficting interests of different groups set equally basic rights in conflict with another. For example, the equal right of all to be left alone by government and the equal right of all to effective participation in government are independent and important aspects of rights-based political equality. In a class-based society, however, they inevitably conflict. Without collective ownership dominated by a worker's state (with the interference that it entails), economic power power becomes concentrated in the hands of a few, who dominate effective participation of government as a result.

Easton Cooper
Easton Cooper

P.S. I would not want nor trust someone like Caitlyn Jenner to represent me.

Liam Richardson
Liam Richardson

You're not looking at the big picture I feel, even if you might think you are.
Sure we shouldn't base an entire ideology off of one person's experience. No shit. That's why you foster communication between and projected from a wide variety of trans people. This gives you the proper information you need about the cis-transgender dialectic to create political theory and praxis.

Caleb Mitchell
Caleb Mitchell

Personally, I feel like transpeople don't necessarily want to be heard anymore, that they want to be put on display for what they know to be a cruel world, that they're tired of being probed for the advancement of someone's political agenda. No, what they want is concrete solutions from their doctors, from their families, from themselves. We have the information. We just don't know exactly what to do with it yet.

Adrian Green
Adrian Green

There's always room for more information. I'm describing a long-term relationship between trans and their cis allies rather than a specific moment in time.
Trans in the third world, for instance.

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