Dylann Roof is a human being and killing him makes you just as bad

Easton Cox
Easton Cox

Dylann Roof is a human being and killing him makes you just as bad

James King
James King

I oppose the death penalty as a formalised state process. Tbh I would never vote to execute someone as part of a democratic federation either

Jackson Collins
Jackson Collins

What if he killed a dozen people and expresses the desire to do it again?

Dominic James
Dominic James

-Revolution without a revolution-

Xavier Taylor
Xavier Taylor

lol, why

Ryder Smith
Ryder Smith

I kind of wish that they would bring death penalty back. Fact that child rapists get off form prisons after only 5 year sentences seems just wrong.

Brayden Butler
Brayden Butler

same

Caleb Wright
Caleb Wright

revolutionary violence is the same as the death penalty

Give him a padded room three meals a day and all the literature and TV he wanted. That's about it

Joseph Allen
Joseph Allen

Pretty hard to do that locked up in prison.

Christopher Baker
Christopher Baker

And anyone who thinks that isn't harsh enough I challenge you to spend 6 hours in jail. Being locked in a cage is fucking brutal. The fact that it has been normalised is the in only reason people think it's a normal thing to do. It is a horrific practice I would still only carry out in the gravest of circumstances

Bentley Williams
Bentley Williams

Murder people
make the taxpayer support them for the rest of their lives

Isaac Parker
Isaac Parker

suckdem is pushing Russophobic garbage
xD!

James Torres
James Torres

meh, death penalty is not a punishment, it's a favour. When will USA understand that by killing a person you're saving him from so much suffer.

Prison for life in confinement on a small room dressed ina straitjacket is far more punishment than death penalty. I would rather die than to live under such conditions.

Cooper Morales
Cooper Morales

anarchist communism
taxpayers

Nope that's wrong.

Alexander Hernandez
Alexander Hernandez

*solitary confinement

Cooper Reyes
Cooper Reyes

Yeah, he did all those people he shot a favor, sparing them from the suffering of the life of a prole.

Lincoln Cook
Lincoln Cook

Our prisons are god damn over flowing

We shouldn't be asking for more prisoners ..

Gavin Perry
Gavin Perry

KILLING IS BAD UNLESS WE DO IT
lol Holla Forums

Bentley Brooks
Bentley Brooks

Isn't it more expensive in America to execute someone than to lock the up

Julian Sanchez
Julian Sanchez

xphobic

There is legitimacy in being against Russian Federation since they are the only European power that has started armed conflicts within Europe in last 2 decades.

Leo Jackson
Leo Jackson

wasting communal resources on prolonged torture when a bullet costs fifty cents

Wyatt Anderson
Wyatt Anderson

The death penalty robs the individual of the opportunity to REPENT!

Gavin Foster
Gavin Foster

but that's wrong

Aaron Wright
Aaron Wright

implying anarchism can defend itself

Jayden Miller
Jayden Miller

Well if you're torturing the person in prison, you're probably doing something wrong.

You're also doing it wrong if you're killing them with bullets.

Juan Myers
Juan Myers

also once you factor in the appeals process and the fact most death row in mates serve an average life sentence before they are executed anyway, its actually cheaper in the US (and most other places) to just lock them up for life.

Dylan Sanchez
Dylan Sanchez

Proofs?

Christopher Harris
Christopher Harris

burden of proof is on the accuser

Josiah Carter
Josiah Carter

wasting communal resources on an elongated appeals process that makes for certain that innocent people aren't executed

Oh no wait, that is completely impossible and innocent people are executed all the time.

I'd rather my mistakes were reversible.

Also if they reformed prisons for five minutes the costs are negligable. Throw in that in ancomistan being a prison guard would probably be like Jury Duty.

pretending Rojava doesn't exist

probably bitches about Catalonia labour camps in other threads

Nolan Turner
Nolan Turner

Repentance robs the individual of the opportunity to have individual values.

Isaac James
Isaac James

Shifting the burden of proof is a non-starter. Just say your peace.

Nathaniel Reyes
Nathaniel Reyes

Last war on Europe(excluding the current one) that was started happened 3 decades ago with collapse of Yugoslavia.

Connor Robinson
Connor Robinson

I'd rather my mistakes were reversible.
I agree with your sentiment, but that doesn't really apply here. Dylann Roof wasn't arrested or tried by mistake, this is a slam dunk case of an unrepentant murderer with no desire to change.
Just take him behind the courthouse and put a bullet in between his eyes. This is a situation where it's been earned.

Jose White
Jose White

implying attacking imperialist powers is inherently wrong

socdems always reveal themselves to be liberals

Brayden Butler
Brayden Butler

Now here's an interesting thought; what you're saying is:

1. An individual's free decision to renege his past actions and opinions is going against his autonomy and negates his ability to have individual values. But all that is really done is that the individual now has newfound appreciation for different values – the equivalent of "changing your mind". Which is of course something all healthy people can and should do with new information, maturity, etc.

2. An individual's free decision to do whatever can "rob" him of anything. The problem with this would be if something takes away an alternative course of action of equal or greater value. But this cannot be the case since what the person has won through repentance is greater than what he has lost. Like if I stole 40 dollars from you, but gave you 1,000… are you really going to be that one guy that complains?

Xavier Murphy
Xavier Murphy

Implying Rojava will be anarchist in 5 years

Jacob Williams
Jacob Williams

Really, if he killed more than ten innocent people, who were just going to be with their family.

That's ten lives on his soul. Families even.

At that point, whatever the fate be had,

he is already inside a dead man. He has no future, death or not.

James Clark
James Clark

fuck off, liberal

Mason Sanders
Mason Sanders

Russia clearly was the aggressor in attempt to expand its territory. That is a textbook imperialism.

Adrian Jones
Adrian Jones

Only because of all the legal fees. People sit on death row for 10 years or longer before they are actually killed. Most of them appeal the decisions as many times as they can, racking up more and more costs. It is expensive because the effort that is taken to ensure that they are actually guilty.

Just throwing someone in prison and throwing away the key is cheaper.

Jaxson Butler
Jaxson Butler

Mind you, we are talking about theological repentance, not jsut mere repentance
An individual's free decision
Let's get rid of this notion. Yes, Christians give you the choice to believe in God. Yes, Christians even give you the choice to repent or not. But on the condition that you do not use this choice, lest you want to amass their scorn, and allegedly punishment in the afterlife. Different values are not coercive per se, but they can become as much if the variety only functions as a hierarchy, a difference in two or more classes.

Isaac Butler
Isaac Butler

people who can't be reformed don't deserve to live, not hard.

Easton Bailey
Easton Bailey

Apparently it is.

Zachary Wood
Zachary Wood

What if he killed those people with the intent of being executed so he could be a martyr?

Robert Ortiz
Robert Ortiz

The revolutionary violence end with the revolts calming down and us being in power.
You are wrong.
You need to purify kill and murder all those that belongs to the old order using a state "death penalty" or through other ways.
le bolshevism
The US founding fathers did it, the french did it, etc.. those who try to tolerate the enemy will be part of the revolution failure. see the most recent example, Egypt they didn't hang the old corrupt order so that old order fucked them up and killed the revolution.

Lucas Stewart
Lucas Stewart

I like to imagine that the kid that played Coconut Head on that live action Nickelodeon program couldn't find work and ran into a bad crowd

Christopher Brown
Christopher Brown

Well he pretty much united everyone against him and looked batshit so it backfired and now he's going to die

Camden Long
Camden Long

I just oppose killing people in general. It's sort of awkward when people whom I usually agree with on everything else (Communism etc.) don't really have a problem with it, so long as it's the bourgeois being killed.
I would also vote against it.

Jaxson Hill
Jaxson Hill

Cuba had a revolution where they killed lots of porkies, but they have abolished the death penalty afterward. Look it up.

Joshua Stewart
Joshua Stewart

what is apparent and what is are two different things thankfully.

Ayden Smith
Ayden Smith

an eye for an eye

Jayden Jones
Jayden Jones

You are wrong.

I didn't say anything like

The revolutionary violence end with the revolts calming down and us being in power.

Though, at all.

le bolshevism

I didn't even mention Bolshevism at all. Strawman harder

Matthew Turner
Matthew Turner

Rojava
Anarchist
Wait what? They have a state right?

Adam Myers
Adam Myers

and in that case, bullet between the eyes is the easy way out.

On basic principle "I abhor violence which is why I execute people." Just seems dumb to me. I know jail is violence, but there are some extremely rare cases where its less violence than what you unleash on the community. These are probably the 1 in a 1000 cases though

Ayden Carter
Ayden Carter

this thread is more proof you're all weak willed left of center white kids from the suburbs who like to larp

trash needs to be taken out. some people need to be executed. deal with it you rich white suburban pussies.

Sebastian Williams
Sebastian Williams

you're all weak willed left of center white kids from the suburbs who like to larp

Xavier Price
Xavier Price

If it's up to me I will make it that way:

If you kill one person, you get executed. But we have to make sure waaay more, like with just direct evidence that you did it. Same goes for other crimes.

If there's no obvious direct link, you are free.

Jail punishment isn't fair for the dead person and his family. Today's justice isn't fair to the accused. It's literally a bunch of people thought that's it's more likely that you did it that you didn't. So you have to be punished… wtf…

Benjamin Cook
Benjamin Cook

I only think the death penalty is bad when there's any chance of doubt but since dozens of people saw him do this it's not like they got the wrong guy.

Jaxson Morgan
Jaxson Morgan

everyone is against the death penalty until they find out the guy like raped a bunch of underaged nuns and buried them alive or something.

Anyways, i always like the system the Japanese have for this.
In japan if you kill one person you get life in prison, if you kill multiple people you get the death penalty

Tyler Miller
Tyler Miller

killing him makes you just as bad
There they go again with sitting on the fence about "muh humanity"

John Howard
John Howard

Well, I don't care for punishment. I want to rid the streets from murderers, rapists and the like. They can die quickly and painlessly for all I care.

Henry Moore
Henry Moore

i agree, it would have been right to kill him WHILE he was shooting up the church but there is no excuse for revenge justice ever. he needs counseling, family and isolation from the community he harmed for the time being. life in prison is another evil fucking punishment. anything over 10 years is evil. anything over 5 better be for mass murder or extreme psychopathic behavior. 1-3 years is enough for most violent crime if they aren't thrown into gang infested rape cages and are treated like medical patients

Brayden Clark
Brayden Clark

people who want to be the execution are fools, the official executioner is nature/happen-stance. if you happen to encounter a murder in progress you kill the assailent. if not, take note, mind your own fucking business. revenge justice leads to hatred and systematic revenge justice (our crim justice syst) leads to all out conflict and systematic hatred

Austin Garcia
Austin Garcia

Dylan Roof killed 9 people. Dylan Roof is 1 person. From this we can conclude killing Dylan Roof is 1/9 as bad.

Jacob Hall
Jacob Hall

Alexander Dugin
It's funny how he is becoming the Russian version of Soros.
It's funny because it's done by people who accuse others of tinfoiling when they bring up Soros and his geopolitical meddling

Ayden Collins
Ayden Collins

State death penalty is weird man

You like inject people with weird shit and everybody watches through a window and it's all creepy

Just shoot them and get it over with

Colton Rodriguez
Colton Rodriguez

A new outlook on life after screwing someone over is like me giving you 1,000 imaginary dollars
Fucking. Christfags.
Only time I've ever agreed with a tankiddie in my life.

Leo Flores
Leo Flores

I oppose the death penalty, not because I weep for the humanity of murderers but because the justice system isn't perfect. Even one innocent life being taken by the state outweighs any benefits of state execution vs just throwing them in a cell.

Evan Morales
Evan Morales

all these statists supporting murder because through the alchemy of spooks it becomes legitimate
If murder and rape is commonplace in your society then you've already bigly fucked up; state sanctioned torture, kidnapping, and murder to deal with that is like trying to put out a fire with gasoline. This guy is right. Criminal behavior is an abnormality and causes suffering for the criminal and the victim, the only way to deal with it is through removing the conditions that created the criminal and rehabilitating the criminal into a healthy individual. Saying "Just murder them lol" is lazy and the type of thinking fascists have.
an anarchist ever agreeing with a Red Fascist advocating murder
Sounds like you need to fix your edginess and read some more philosophy, comrade.

Parker Peterson
Parker Peterson

an anarchist ever agreeing with a Red Fascist advocating murder
Just because we agree with something doesn't make us alike. Hitler drank water, are all water-drinkers nazis?

Really what's wrong with killing murderers and bourgeoise?

Like it or not even though removing conditions more likely to cause crime won't cause them to be eliminated altogether. We could just exile them, why does no one consider that anymore?

Luis Phillips
Luis Phillips

This is something I agree with, the state can;t be trusted with that power, or any power really.

Noah Perez
Noah Perez

Really what's wrong with killing murderers and bourgeoise?
Same as what's wrong with murder in general. Either humans have a right to live or they don't. Criminals become criminals through a shitty life and mental illness, and should be cured, not punished; likewise a bourgeois should be educated, either so he can leave the class he was born in, or give up on the irrational and pointless pursuit of wealth and power at the expense of others.
Like it or not even though removing conditions more likely to cause crime won't cause them to be eliminated altogether
Removing the conditions would remove the crime, but it might not be possible to completely do that. If rehabilitation isn't an option, then exile does seem the only moral choice.

Jeremiah Rivera
Jeremiah Rivera

Capital punishment is like a million times better than spending 23/24 of your living hours in a supermax cell the size of a hat box.

This is a mercy without question.

Asher Jackson
Asher Jackson

Agreed with this

Oliver Miller
Oliver Miller

But he only killed niggers, so it's actually (5.4)^-1 times as bad.

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