The Legend of Zelda series of games is mediocre at best when you consider what it truly is.
The entire series is just desperately trying to copy other, better games. The only reason to like any LoZ game over the superior games they are trying to copy is because you never actually played the games they're based on.
There are plenty of other examples but you've got enough to argue about with just these, so have at it.
And the ones that did it right in the series are still better than most games out today so I don't see the point you're trying to make. I know it's cool to hate on Nintendo now but this retroactive bullshit needs to stop.
Connor Rodriguez
Zelda 1 was based off of Tower of Druaga, not Ultima, in fact several Nintendo games were based off of Namco ones
Isaiah Russell
My argument here is that there are better games than the Zelda entries, not just more original games.
Most people with taste will tell you that Gurumin and Okami are better in just about every way than Ocarina of Time and that OoT was an unremarkable entry in an unremarkable series and the only people that genuinely think it was a "masterpiece" are people that were the perfect age to enjoy it as a child with no taste.
I, personally, am probably not the best person to argue this because OoT and games like it don't really entertain me, but I would like to see it dethroned as "BEST GAYM EVARRRRR" in my lifetime.
Sebastian Nelson
What a fucking surprise. Were you hoping someone would leap to the defense of Nintendo so you could cry drone, or were you just stating the obvious to be annoying?
Eli Richardson
I ain't taking this bait, but I will post boipussi.
Jordan Evans
They really have ruined Link's design haven't they
Joshua Bailey
not even the best boipucci, desu
Henry Clark
Haven't most Zelda games been open world? This is "Fallout 4 finally lets you play as a woman!" tier
Gavin Jenkins
Not really, no. His Gerudo outfit is fetish fuel but it's not his general design. His blue defaults are much better than most of his old green tunics, with exception to Twilight Princess's version.
If you're going to complain about quality of boipussi, then don't post worst examples.
Ryder Wright
BotW is pretty unironically open world in a way that no zeldo game before it is, since there are no arbitrary obstacles that require a specific item you get from a specific dungeon or by beating a specific boss in a specific way.
Though in my opinion that makes the game much worse off, since interesting and "exciting" boss battles were a hallmark for the series and they've been all but removed.
Henry Rivera
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Lucas Garcia
No taste. No taste whatsoever. You are a fair-weather-fapper.
James Barnes
The white bodytights ruin it for me.
Oh no, the man with no taste in boipussi said I had no taste. How ever will I live with myself?
Eli Scott
Yeah, that's about what I expected.
Noah Nguyen
I can understand that, but for a second I thought you were one of those people that insist all tunic designs need chainmail after TP and SS had it
Owen Hill
I want a masculine link
Ayden Price
Out of all the games you mention, I've only played Ultima and Secret of Mana. Ultima is an RPG and Zelda isn't, so I don't understand the comparison. Ultima is closer to Dragon Quest/Final Fantasy than it is to Zelda. Secret of Mana is a good game, but that's just, like, your opinion, man. Everything is a rip off of other things that already exist; more news at 11.
What exactly is the point you're trying to make?
Isaiah Carter
i want to violently get cummed inside by Kass while he plays me his favorite accordion song
jesus fuck nintendo you made one hot fucking bird…
Grayson Gonzalez
Same, or a return to the dopey-looking appearance he had during the NES and SNES eras. I'm getting really sick of the modern designs being either Toon or similar-ish Adult designs. Just seeing BOTW Link in the OoT amiibo set shows how far the series has changed/fallen from grace
ALBW's design doesn't count, it looks atrocious and I prefer to not acknowledge that game happened
John Lee
It would be nice if they incorporated armour into his designs even if it just appears as a chainmail trim, but nah I don't expect it or demand it.
Something like one of these perhaps?
Lucas Harris
normally i'd agree with you but my dick's calling the shots now.
Grayson Nelson
The Super Mario series of games is mediocre at best when you consider what it truly is.
The entire series is just desperately trying to copy other, better games. The only reason to like any Mario game over the superior games they are trying to copy is because you never actually played the games they're based on.
There are plenty of other examples but you've got enough to argue about with just these, so have at it.
Owen Taylor
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Jackson Kelly
super mario is open world zelda is open world metal gear is open world I AM OPEN WORLD
are there any other open worlds i should know about?!
Jonathan Brooks
Masculine sub link would be even hotter, you fucking closet faggot.
YES!!! I wouldn't mind a younger 20-something year old link with a beard either, no, not a nu-male, but a man in his prime.
ALBW came close, so close, yet so far.
Logan Barnes
meow
Luis Rivera
fuck's sake, and here I thought it was just someone else who wanted a return to the older formula
Xavier Bennett
im done with videogames
Cameron Cruz
Are you going to commit suicide via infecting yourself with HIV? Can I convince you to do so?
Thomas Garcia
Maybe
You
Should
Stop
Typing
Like
This
Faggot.
Samuel Clark
I do! I see modern link as nothing but faggot pandering. I'm okay with a strong masculine link as the permanent design of the future.
not a poz pig
Aaron Sanders
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Angel Thompson
Those spaces appeared when I copy-pasted it, you fucking homo. Are you that easily triggered?
Ethan Howard
Janeway was the best captain
Noah Rodriguez
Even when copypasting, check before you post.
Thomas Butler
None of those games are anything like Zelda games. Neither are Okami, Beyond Good and Evil, Dark Souls, Gothic, Shadow of the Colossus, Elder Scrolls or any of the other games people mention whenever the "Zelda is a ripoff and/or inferior version of X" meme comes up. In fact, no RPG ever made is like Zelda because Zelda games aren't RPGs. And everything else you mentioned is really reaching. You see how ridiculous that sounds?
That hasn't been a thing in like a decade. The hip opinion to have since around 2009 or so is that it's overrated, just like with Final Fantasy 7. Where have you been?
Luke Ross
OP is a inbred nigger. Don't bother.
Go back.
Juan Perez
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Gavin Cox
Fucking hell, this makes me happy as shit.
Nathan Rodriguez
if i'm a closet faggot than how do i still get off to ara alongside traps? did you even think about that, nigger?
Oliver Thompson
Which games are the most like Adventure of Link? Other than Battle for Olympus.
Luis Roberts
Nes only or?
Ryan Barnes
Looks like the answer is
yes
Faxanadu's pretty similar.
Robert Brown
Oh, and the NES version of Rygar.
Levi Jones
The only good Zelda games were a Link to The Past and Majoras Mask
John White
It really isn't, this is just contrarian revisionism to try and have a cool unique opinion (which isn't unique because everybody is now saying this shit). And it plays nothing like Ultima. Praise for Zelda isn't something that just some guy decided on one day in a youtube video, it happened because everybody in every school yard was talking endlessly about Zelda in the 80's and 90's because we couldn't stop playing it when we were home.
Anthony Kelly
Hello Retard.
Mason Barnes
Hi nigger :^)
Anthony Sullivan
Don't take the bait, mate.
Brayden Gonzalez
(Checked) ok
Brayden Torres
Is it just me, or is the mention of Ultima mean retarded shitposting is not far behind? I don't know what it is, but I swear when someone compares an Ultima game (often making huge stretches) to another that it bodes ill for the quality of the post. It's like that shitposter who would call various games "dungeon crawlers" and then recommend Blade of Darkness.
Zachary Lewis
I'm more confused why people think Zelda games are RPGs. The closest thing to anything like an RPG was in 2 where you leveled up and got to pick if you got attack, heath, or magic. To a lesser extent I think BotW has similar mechanics with health/stamina and picking up weapons and armor, but it's still a massive stretch. And yet when people say Smash Bros. is a fighting game people get really upset. I don't get video games sometimes.
Colton Powell
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Easton Anderson
Any system.
Camden Wilson
I thought that's FF.
Chase Hall
He said open world.
Josiah Cruz
actually it's DQ that's a shameless clone of Ultima FF is a shameless clone of DQ
Kevin White
P sure DQ is a shameless clone of Wizardry and FF of Ultima. Gooks can't even make their own genres.
Angel Morris
Fuckin faggot nerds
William Thomas
Never have never will and look at the pathetic fan base they generate too.
Carter Mitchell
friendly reminder Lord British is a hack who sold out to EA games and a proto-SJW
Owen Myers
Space radiation melted his brain, he was cool before that.
Nolan Davis
Have you actually played any of the two games you retard?
Carson Perez
You sure about that? Or is he always been a attention whore like he Is now?
Jaxon Myers
If you can be an attention whore by working in your garage then sure.
Isaac Cox
Ultima was never good, fuck you Spoony cock sucking faggots. PC had way better Rpgs then that bullshit through out the ages.
Andrew Lewis
Dragon Quest is an Ultima clone. Ultima Underworld is a good game, and arguably important as it influenced many games after. Richard Garriot is that huge faggot DM who inserts himself into his campaign setting to stroke his ego and somehow made himself a lifetime career doing so.
Henry Kelly
1v1 me
Brandon Morris
I think Super Metroid is a better game than Super Mario Bros. sure they are very similar games that involve platforming and powerups and are part of the same Super series of games but I just felt Super Metroid did the Super gameplay better, so why is Super Mario Bros. so fucking overrated, is it because it was the first in the Super series of games? the game is just so short in comparison to Super Metroid.
He's a fucking faggot, I'd be quick to put him up there as one of the more significant game developers but holy shit his ego and his new game, it's all fucking hype and he's taking his time to push out a turd..
I thought Dragon Quest an Final Fantasy were clones of Hydlide?
Nolan Morgan
YO YO YO I HATE ZELDA AND FALLOUT fuck TODD Yo Niggas whaz up!
Hunter Perry
Spotted the niglet
Andrew Edwards
NO MANS SKY IS SHET AM'RITE
please let me be cool now
Leo Hughes
This thread is full of concentrated homosexual autism. The fact no one posted this only proves this.
Bentley Phillips
No, this is stupid. Link is typically young and it's most fitting for him to be that way. He should look courageous and determined (triforce of courage, for fuck's sake), but he doesn't need to look extremely masculine or powerful. Playing as a courageous youth emphasizes the idea of a long journey full of exploration and exotic places.
Okami and Beyond Good and Evil are very similar, the others definitely aren't.
Samuel Young
Okami, Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are a lot like Zelda. Dunno about any of the others because I haven't played them
Caleb Perry
What meme is this?
Isaiah Fisher
The Legend of Zelda isn't an RPG though.
Tyler Phillips
Yes
Ian Torres
The very first Zelda game did that.
Aiden Morris
So? Are you telling me that settling for videogames over real life achievements, isn't mediocre as well? We take what we can, pard. And before you know it, you will be an old man longing for nostalgic days.