Is Buddhism a Holla Forums meme that I don't get?

buddhism is far right/reactionary traditionalism

Didn't I say white people who called themselves Buddhists were the worst

the white upperclass liberal buddhists are the worst

Zizek on buddhism. Watch it.

youtube.com/watch?v=s3DAMI_WeM4

It's dem epicanthic folds

I think buddhism is priddy gool

fite me

Buddhism's pretty cool. People in the board keep claiming anyone who believes they understand it don't really understand it.

Faggots like even make it racist.

Would be interested in reading an introductory text, something that gets you past just an overview.

golibgen.io/noleech1.php?hidden=567000/1d24035515cfce765caa1445e77a2c6f&hidden0=Huston_Smith,_Philip_Novak_Buddhism_A_Concise_Introduction.pdf

Because Asians generally outperform white people economically and academically and the white people have home field advantage.

Asians represent what white people want to be.

dhammawiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

dhammawiki.com/index.php?title=Theravada

On a side note, discovering Greco-Buddhism had to have been one of the wildest rides in my life

mlahanas.de/Greeks/LX/GrecoBuddhism.html

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhism

dhammawiki.com/index.php?title=Greece

dhammawiki.com/index.php?title=Milinda

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nio

Also forgot en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fūjin

Because they're sexy.

That is a strong/strange term. I mean I jack off to them more than other races of the world, but I wouldn't call that reverence.

buddhism is a path to a transcendant /death/
that is all

Buddhism is a materialist rejection of authority.

they like the culture
they like the women
they like the food

Žižek incorrectly defines Nirvana as enlightenment, when in actually it involves reincarnation. Communists find reincarnation to be "problematic."

This is why you should discuss in the board, and not post external links unless it's absolutely necessary.

We never owned them in large scale and have regretted it ever since.

Orientalism.
That's why western liberals make excuses for islamism and call every genuine reformist muslim an islamophobe.

Exoticism, really. The funny thing is that this sort of stuff has been happening since the Victorian era and before, and many Westerners have attempted to borrow Dharmic and East Asian elements into their religious practices (see: Thelema and Secular Buddhism)

Correction, Zizek on modern Zen Buddhism. The type that upperclass liberals practice.

theological solipsism is stupid

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What is there to be said about Buddhism on a leftist board, and what would be able to said with regards to it when people do not know it?

If you want to read some of the actual Buddhist canon, you can access this recently created /freedu/ thread which so far contains the four major Nikayas of the Sutta Pitaka: 8ch.net/freedu/res/1646.html#1646 .

On another aforementioned subject, Žižek's speeches on Buddhism are disapointingly deplorable; though, he is not neccesarily at fault and is somewhat sympathized with.

Ignore the fools in this thread.

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What is there to be said about Buddhism on a leftist board, and, especially, what would be able to be said with regards to it when people do not know it?

If you want to read a portion of the actual Buddhist canon, you can take advantage of this recently created /freedu/ thread which so far contains the four major Nikayas of the Sutta Pitaka: 8ch.net/freedu/res/1659.html#1659.

On another aforementioned subject, Žižek's speeches on Buddhism are disappointingly deplorable; though, he is not completely blameable and is yet, somewhat sympathized with.

Ignore the fools in this thread.

I found this just now
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectical_monism

What solipsism?

Memes aside, Buddhism is capitalist trash. High ranking priests imposed taxes on their lower-ranking serfs, and you were taxed for fucking everything. There was a sleeping tax, existing tax, eating tax, even a fucking death tax. Your father died? Gotta pay a tax for that, prole. We own the temple, and the burial sites, after all. If this isn't proto-wage slavery, I don't know what is.

I'm almost surprised they didn't have a tax tax.

Tbqh while modern China is capitalist trash I'm glad that Mao Zedong took over Tibet because quite frankly Tibet was not a very good place to live because of it's feudalism. It was much better off as part of China.

Yellow fucking fever.

same shit, different smell

im not seeing it

Le buffhism meme

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Spoken like a true vanilla

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Posting Moly isn't an argument whitey

You know jack shit about Buddhism like most vanillas.

Can you stop attaching a racial value to a religion?

:^)

No

Didn't say that

You know that Buddhism has been target of reforms and changes for longer time than Christianity has?

Also single theocratic state is in no relative way representative of entire religion. That would be the same as saying that ISIS represents all of Islam and Nazi loving papal state represents all of Christianity.

State and Religion have worked hand in hand for centuries. I don't see how buddhism is any different/

Why do whites talk about Asian philosophy and history when it isn't even in their fucking curriculum and most of them have a high school level understanding of world history.

Seems about right.

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Why do whites talk about Asian philosophy and history when it isn't even in their fucking curriculum and most of them have a high school level understanding of world history.

You're getting awfully tankie ACT

SJWs are inherently authoritarian

I'm just stating a fact. American education extends to the Near East and that's as far as it goes. Asian history, like Chinese history, is reserved for AP courses and community college, upper echelon education.

You don't have a grasp of nuance.

You should be arguing against the religion's Japan has produced or Hinduism.

Not Buddhism. Budhism is incredibly lithe and malleable.

Because your anecdotal experiences are largely irrelevant to this discussion and people don`t need to hold any merits for political,philosophical nor religious discourse on platform that is not academic by its nature.

It represents how a manipulation hierarchy forms around it, however.

If the affected population submits to its' laws on a cultural level, it's absolutely representative of the religion in its' final form.

They aren't anecdotal, I'm talking history from places of the Earth whites hardly understand.

They do. If you don't understand or hold no nuance, it must be this or that, or pointing to states, it's showing how much Western education has failed in teaching of the East.

Mostly for its complexity, but also for time. It's more simple to shove Western history in there than Eastern.

It's easier and more time "appropriate" to explain antipathy between European Nations than why mainland Asia hates Japan, especially for the minority populations amongst us.

The same for Africa.

It only teaches the Near East for the cultural creation it made for the Mediterranean, and afterwards so Europe.

Generalization and speculation on that scale holds no intellectual honesty to this topic.

I think you`re missing my point here. To post your views here no priori information is required to be submitted.

So what you're saying is that a white person can't be a Buddhist or even discuss it?

And that's not racist how again?

You've never lived in a anfem state how can you discuss the nuances of it?

And you can be wrong.

It was mostly a joke.

But white Buddhists, for the same reason I outlined in education, don't really have a grasp of what IT is. History, experience, etc.

It's not an easily explainable religion, just as most East Asian religions are.

So when Whites do it, it ends up looking like a stereotype of what we do.

It's a bit of a bias sure, but for many of them, it's fueled by the past New Age movement and liberals.

It's a knee jerk reaction when someone white says they're Buddhist.

I'm not an anarca-fem. Not in the way its been described at least. Just an anarchist who's a staunch feminist.

How? I was speaking in strictly technical sense.

I was saying you are free to post and I am free to critique.

The oldest extant strata of the Pali Nikāyas (especially certain sections of the Sutta Nipata) make it clear that what Gotama Buddha taught was a quietist withdrawal from worldly affairs into mendicant asceticism. While the Buddha was something of a genius, his teachings have no relevance to a revolutionary politics. Remember, caring for some people above others is "thirst" or "craving" (taṇhā/tṛṣṇā). The arhat has infinite love and sympathy for living beings, but it is "measureless" (appamaññā). His compassion penetrates equally in all directions and has no object, because by definition that is taṇhā. The tradition itself maintains that the Buddha was just as inclined to abide in peace as he was to lead living beings to liberation; it was all the same to him, and only an entreaty from Brahmā himself convinced the Buddha to change his mind.

Tl;dr the Buddha's doctrine is inherently quietist. Were he to come along today, good Marxists would hang him as a reactionary.

Just FYI, tripfags statments are normally taken more seriously then an user. Especially when they normally speak seriously.

Then I'll fix my statement.

Atheism is truly the autism of 21st century.

Any belief system that believes in reincarnation (excluding "you're always changing and that's reincarnation" or random reincarnation) leads to "You're poor because in a past life you were bad" caste systems

Again you know jack shit. It isn't even about Buddha necessarily, but to some it is.

I can predict how social dynamics work. After all, we all live in a society in our day to day lives that is in a sense community, even if we go day to day on allowance from Porky.

I don't think Anarchism is all that different than the way we even live currently

On the other hand, Kri can teach one not to be greedy or pig like, porky like, for in whatever they may be, whatever haunts their soul, will be empty.

If you murder, something hangs over.

If you steal, something hangs over.

If you destroy the lives of many, something hangs over.

I don't find it reactionary because it does not discriminate. It holds Capitalism accountable.

wat

It means that, Capitalism effects how we behave in the large sense, but in the smaller sense, what we still desire is community.

Satisfaction to that end, is something we behave in without need for state regularly.

I find that much can change, and much cannot change.

Outside of need for Capital or State.

Ok I'm going to need to get you pinned down. Are you Buddhist? If not, do you have any religious beliefs? If so, do you think that reincarnation (in the "the next life is based off of the previous ones") a thing?

Okay, I tried. By the way "Buddha" in Sanskrit, Pali, and English is a title, not a proper name.

Reminder:

I am a Buddhist.I'm not sure about reincarnation. Part of me, as corny as it sounds, believes since the mind is electricity, energy, it can be transferred, though how this occurs among lifeform to newborn lifeform is extremely questionable in the side of my mind that says, this is bullshit.

It's superstition mostly, be it gut feeling from Christian/Buddhist raising.

I believe more, that the idea what you do, how you behave, does lead to blow back. It can be fair or unfair, but it it is nonetheless true.

Being greedy, Capitalist, will make you hated.

I can name plenty of reactionary Buddhists, but I can also name the Nationalist Bolshevist here. It's like that.

Buddhism is just what it is, you won't destroy it, it's far less reactionary than most sects of Christianity or Islam or Judaism, or Monotheism and most Old World Polytheism at all.

You understand that reincarnation beliefs, in the "the next life is based off of the previous ones" way, lead to blaming past life misbehavior for people being poor, less fortunate, unlucky.

Which leads to a caste system, which is spooky and reactionary as fuck. Right?

Many Buddhists (possibly except for Zazen Buddhists) and Hindus believe in this type of reincarnation. Although, I would agree that Buddhism does mitigate some of the caste system stuff, whereas Hinduism exacerbates it.

Personal superstition believes in a caste system. I believe it and not believe it at the same time. I believe it in order to fulfill my needs to be a better person. Many modern Asians from a Buddhist background believe this way.

The problem is that all religions we know of tend to come from a reactionary place. The consequences are more or less severe.

But we have largely been just a blip on the radar in terms of atrocity, comparatively. It's white Buddhists that think all we mean is peace and stereotype our beliefs by accident is what irritates me.

I'm tired, I meant Personal superstition does not mean I believe in a caste system.

Freudian Slip

But the belief in reincarnation leads to caste systems, which is my point.

This might be a good read (even the other articles in the series)
chakranews.com/castes-in-buddhism-is-caste-only-a-hindu-problem-part-4/3094

Beliefs based on things that cannot be traced to fact generally lead to more severe consequences. After all, for a belief not based on reality there is no check against it becoming more damaging.

We're not a hive mind? Plenty of Buddhists also dispise the caste system for enforced lack of desire for power.

You do know all religions have their sectarianism and what not.

I don't believe in it. Many don't.

Buddhism, in my opinion, mostly comes from factual places. This is not the Buddhist in me talking, this is just my understanding of the mind.

The way I see it, no matter what you do, a certain segment of the population will hate you no matter what. The more you do, the more you're hated.

This causes stress on the mind, stress that can lead to mental issues later on in life. The human body is effected by stress biologically, and hell in particular the organ of the brain.

The best way to avoid this is not to seek power, not to seek hunger, not to be beast but to be human, and not to be among hungry ghosts looking for riches and money or your sexual appetite that stems from the previous two, and not your compassion for humanity.

I find absolutely none of this line of thinking in Monotheism throughout history, especially in regards to power, and our society comes directly from societies that coveted it

The Buddha also said that those who rule who do not act in good behavior or do good things to not deserve respect.

He also said, "One is not distinguished by one's birth but by one's behaviors."
I think that before you look for criticisms of Buddhism, you should maybe read the Buddhist text. I'm not suggesting that the religion is "good" or does not have ugly things though.

*do not deserve respect

I'm as far from religious as a person can be, I sometime waffle into anti-theism, but what you said is not true.

JESUS: "A foolish man, which built his house on sand."
BUDDHA: "Perishable is a city built on sand." (30)
JESUS: "Therefore confess your sins one to another, and pray one for another, that you may be healed."
BUDDHA: "Confess before the world the sins you have committed." (31)
JESUS: "In him we have redemption through his blood, the foregiveness of sins."
BUDDHA: "Let all sins that were committed in this world fall on me, that the world may be delivered." (32)
JESUS: "Do to others as you would have them do to you."
BUDDHA: "Consider others as yourself." (33)
JESUS: "If anyone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also."
BUDDHA: "If anyone should give you a blow with his hand, with a stick, or with a knife, you should abandon all desires and utter no evil words." (34)
JESUS: "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you."
BUDDHA: "Hatreds do not cease in this world by hating, but by love: this is an eternal truth. Overcome anger by love, overcome evil by good." (35)
JESUS: "This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you."
BUDDHA: "Let your thoughts of boundless love pervade the whole world." (36)
JESUS: "Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to cast a stone at her."
BUDDHA: "Do not look at the faults of others or what others have done or not done; observe what you yourself have done and have not done." (37)
JESUS: "You father in heaven makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the righteous and on the unrighteous."
BUDDHA: "The light of the sun and the moon illuminates the whole world, both him who does well and him who does ill, both him who stands high and him who stands low." (38)
JESUS: "If you wish to be perfect, go sell your possessions, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven."
BUDDHA: "The avaricious do not go to heaven, the foolish do not extol charity. The wise one, however, rejoicing in charity, becomes thereby happy in the beyond." (39)

From: thezensite.com/non_Zen/Was_Jesus_Buddhist.html

Maybe I was raised a different way, but I see no flaw in this.

What Jesus said and what Christianity managed to do, are two totally different entities.

What Buddha said and what Buddhism managed to do, are two totally different entities.

What do you mean? That's an actual quote from the Buddhist text.

Relatively little? The impact between Christianity in the West and how it has come to define it in the most negative ways of both, and some people living an ascetic life, are two totally different things.

There is a diversity of religion in Asia, we still have kept our cultural heritage.

You can't say the same for Europe. Or the Near East.

I wonder why that might be.

I didn't read the rest of the post. I thought you were saying it as if the consequences for behaving "badly" were too general, and negative. My mistake.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_sexual_orientation
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Buddhism#Limitations_on_Women.27s_Attainments_in_Buddhism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence

Just as examples…

The Catholic Church, full stop.

I never said it never existed. These people are hypocrites.

You might want to read that second link.

wordfilter got me

So this is what it's like stumbling into a thread where literally nobody has any idea what they're talking about, I see. I'll not quote specific posts here, but handpick quotes, discussion points and the like.

A big reason Buddhism was such a kicker with folks was because it specifically rejected the caste system that was and is still today so prominent in the alternative societies. That societies in which Buddhism get practiced still operate on caste system has everything to do with culture and nothing with the scripture.

It is more fitting to use the term "rebirth". This term is important because it differentiates Buddhist belief about the afterlife (which does not exist as a concept in Buddhism, a Buddhist sees no difference between this life and the next, I'm generally using Western terms here for simplicity's sake) from the until then common belief of reincarnation. The Buddha specifically rejected the idea of a soul, to understand rebirth would require me to write pages about Buddhist philosophy now however and even then it would probably require practice and time to truly understand it. Boiled down rebirth is the continuation of causality and the mind stream is one of the aggregates among this, more or less.

Buddhism and socialism are in fact so compatible, that it has its own category, that of Buddhist socialism which was mainly perpetuated by the late Buddhadasa Bhikkhu. Generally an advanced Buddhist practicioner would try to abstain though from identifying with political belief systems, which is important to remember.

One important thing when dealing with Buddhism to understand is that it fundamentally differs from the Western understanding of religion. In Buddhism there is no dogma, no threat or authority which binds you to one belief system that has been written down in a collected work. Buddhism is rather many things, lifestyle, therapy, religion, whatever you can form it into, because it does not dictate anything. Of course if you were "enlightened" and would follow the "true scripture", much of what we see associated with Buddhism today would never come to fruition through you, but that's besides the point. Anybody can pick any part from Buddhism they like and incorporate it into their own cultural systems without this act of "appropiating" Buddhism going against the system itself.

The result of this has been plentiful, Zen Buddhism has been used to justify killing and war, unthinkable if you are familiar with Buddhist scripture, esoteric and other cultural elements have been incorporated into certain offshoots and we ended up with something like Mahayana Buddhism, many paths, many options to choose from.

You may try to compare it to the different denominations of Christianity, don't. It's fundamentally different.

I don't doubt that Buddha was a man. But at the same time, taking this into account does not mean anything to Buddhism, in my mind. It means less to me then it does anything he did in his life.

The goal is to temper the demons of the mind, but regardless these demons haunt all of us.

Some are more haunted by cruelty than others.

You don't really have to believe in any of this.

You might want to continue reading your cherry-picked quote:

.. lol you keep reading

The Mahayana sutras maintains that a woman can become enlightened, only not in female form. For example, the Bodhisattvabhūmi, dated to the 4th Century, states that a woman about to attain enlightenment will be reborn in the male form. According to Miranda Shaw, "this belief had negative implications for women insofar as it communicated the insufficiency of the female body as a locus of enlightenment".

You two, arguing about this is pointless. Scripture is scripture, over 2000 years old at that. It is recorded that the Buddha is not a proponent of "sex inequality" (sic!), a woman can attain enlightenment just as well as a man can, but Buddhahood is unattainable for a woman. Make of that what you will, those might have been the Buddha's words, or not. But if you think a bit about the thousands of years and cultures these stories went through, it should be a bit clearer from what place this belief originated and who it was aimed at. Don't fret it.

I myself believe in some of this. Does that make me wrong? No. Because ultimately it judges men just as harshly for their actions. Believing in your flaws is part of it. My flaws as a woman are entirely different in some cases than yours, but in Buddhism, men can be seen as far more destructive.

It's pretty cool outside the esoteric shit. Meditation is great. Racist sacks of shit like and weird west coast liberals make it look bad. I wouldn't consider it leftist, but you can be a leftist and practice it. I think most people could find some value in it and I'd recommend it to most anons. Just avoid the cultish/weirdo/lifestyle shit surrounding it. Personally I think the Chan/Zen schools are the best, but I'm a generally non-religious person to begin with so those are more my thing.

I'm not racist for hating white lifestyle liberals parodying my beliefs.

What is fucking hilarious is that while only a man can be the Supreme Buddha (not the same as an Awakened normal Buddha which a man can be), only a man can be Mara, who is the Buddhist version of the Devil

ffs
*(not the same as an Awakened normal Buddha which a WOMAN can be)…

I'm not trying to talk down to you, but worry less what others do. Focus on your own practice.

Zen is not a good advice for Westerners, it fits few here. It puts a heavy emphasis on practice and the teacher/student relationship, and teachers are hard to find in the West. However of course, anybody can practice Buddhism whatever way they see fit, but personally I would recommend to read up on it intensively and the spirituality and philosophy behind it if you decide to practice. Meditation is very benificial in any case, but depending on your mental state the right (world) view to accompany you will be much more fruitful. In fact, going down a path that is unclear might even be dangerous to some folks.

It's hard not to betray my own beliefs for hate in some circumstances. I hate the Capitalist, the liberal, the opportunist on the misfortune of others.

My belief in Anti-Capitalism ultimately overrides my religious convictions and I know I am a hypocrite for it.

Buddhism does not suggest we can all be free from our empty ways.

Also I doubt you two understand what they mean when the shitty wiki pages talks about when they say "only a man can be the Buddha."

They're not talking about the Supreme Buddha who supposedly descends from heaven to teach people the dharma. Not everybody who becomes realized will become that, and it only happens when the dharma becomes lost in the world.

It's basically the Buddhist prophesy version of Christ's return and complaining about it is like complaining that Christ will not take the form of a woman.

Fucking god!!
*They Are talking about the Supreme Buddha only.

I need to sleep. Stop using Wiki though, it's shit and imcomplete with Buddhism

Talking about the supreme Buddha is pretty pointless in this context. I was pointing out that men can be both looked at in rare reverence, but more common the way men are looked at is not so good.

I was only mentioning it because the other guy was quoting wiki on it.

Hating lifestyle liberals is one thing, but acting like all white people are some kind of lifestyle liberals IS fucking racist. You're always saying racist shit in other threads. Hating white racists is one thing, but bitching about white people as a group is fucked.

There are teachers in most major cities in the west. Small city I'm in now doesn't have a teacher, but the local Unitarian church has a Soto study/meditation group. It's also only an hour drive to a big city.

You're probably right a change in mental state would be more beneficial for most. Image boards in general have a lot of sad people. I didn't look into Buddhism until after I had worked through most my own mental bs so what I find value in is probably different than most.

This is by a Theravadin monk, and it may interest you: buddhismuskunde.uni-hamburg.de/pdf/5-personen/analayo/bahudhatuka.pdf.

Your posts are informative.

Thank you for posting

It always depends on interpretation.

Spoken like a true ad hominem.

Let's not.

>>>/out/

I understand Buddhism perfectly well. It was invented to make people OK with their bullshit life of tilling the rice fields day in day out. It was literally a rich liberal kid "slumming it" with "the poors" and then having an "awakening" then running home to tell everyone about it

t. Masters in Oriental Studies at Kentucky University

great insight.

Buddhism is about enjoying the earth, not about being a worker. If a Buddhist becomes complacent with being a laborer, it's because of a willingness to delay gratification that is already inherent to their character.

You realize Buddhism comes from an indo European tradition foreign to East Asia right? And that it was the subject of numerous attempts to purge it wholesale by Chinese emperors and the Japanese as a foreign and subversive faith?

Anyway. In spite of its malleability my issue with it is that it's a fundamentally life denying philosophy, similar to Christianity.

You are so obviously in need of a good fucking. And from the constant snide remarks it's obvious how much you love white men.

Lmao wut. Firstly Buddhism never became dominant in East Asia until well after Christianity had become dominant in Europe. It's a foreign import that replaced older, folk cults. A few of which survive.

Second. If you think Buddhism has some great meaning to the average prc citizen today you're fucking delusional. I bet you think shaolin temple PLC is a relic of TRU ASIAN CULTURE as well. To most Chinese Buddhism is at best hollow rites and at worse some fat gold guy whose belly you rub for luck before you hit up the tables in macao.

Your ethnic chauvinism is tiresome and obvious. I've been to Saigon. There's a reason the most beautiful architecture and art there is all French. There's a reason your people come to European palaces to gawp at neoclassical architecture and Renaissance art.

Italy alone outclasses all of East Asia in terms of material culture.

I'm not surprised, honestly.

There's a lot more whites are incapable of being besides religions they take from other eastern regions.

Oh wait that's all whites ever do.

Lot's more I can say about whites I'm sloshed.

My point is I will be racist against white people and you can't stop me.

One. Buddhism isn't native to the sinosphere. It's a foreign import from a region with far more in common with pre Christian Europe than East Asia ever was.

Two. Your only reason for liking it is that it is, or rather is seen by westerners as an exclusively East Asian religion.

Three. It is a matter of objective fact that European art, architecture, philosophy etc is more varied and beautiful than East Asian equivalents.

Go change your hair color to purple or something.

Project ACT2017 is the best psyop pol's come up with yet.

Really? All I can see is copies off Greek work of Bronze you managed to fuck up in marble, that inspired everything terrible in art.

Landscapes, are in fact not art. Nothing Europe has produced has come close to art.

I'm CIA at night and Holla Forums during the day

I know, fam, I know. Happy new year!

The same kind of idiot who says "EUROPE ART IS GREATEST!!!" couldn't name a single movement and confuse modernism with postmodernism and care about what kinds of art look pretty.

Video games, according to these people, are also an art.

Yes of course. Nothing like the fucking state itself in China and Vietnam literally tearing down buildings that didn't accord to superstitious principles that led to nothing but the same pagodas and rectangular hip roofs for 3000 years.

Whoops. There goes 75% of traditional Chinese painting (ink wash 国画）right there!

False.

Also, abstract conceptual artforms are by definition failures. If that's what you're alluding to.

Landscapes were an expression of artists freeing themselves from being the documentarians and serves to nobility or the limits of having to conform to religious doctrine

Did you fast forward through all the non-PoC mole people bits in Dark Days?

Oxymoron jej

Wrong.

There is less to European art than there is to any other form. The fact you can't name a single favorite movement and yet have your eyes set on how great European art is tells me enough about your education on art history.

blah blah blah blah

wew

Vietnamese traditional culture is literally Chinese. It may as well be a Chinese province, same as the Korean peninsula.

What little independent Vietnamese culture existed was wiped out during the Ming campaigns to put down the rebellions there.

Also you're replying to two different people.

I imagined you putting your hand in my face while saying this at the party while your girlfriends giggle and I get all red faced, filling with impotent rage, my only outlet ceaseless shitposting.

That's not a description of any time you don't even know what you like kill yourself

And? At least on average we know your own fucking art better than you do it seems.

Should have been paying attention in college if you ever went to college.

I honestly imagined the same thing.

Wrong.
kek

Stop having opinions on art. You didn't specify romanticism, you just said "m-muh romantic landscapes"

Nice backpedal, just how geeked up off them bars are you?

I'm probably one of the people who mentions it on here the most. I don't meand to post about it in unrelated threads, but rather when discussing its application to real life in terms of alleviating our suffering.

I'm a Buddhist in the sense that I have faith in the triple gem and I follow the five Theravada precepts as much as I can, I meditate and read dhamma (both Theravada and Mahayana) frequently.

I don't think it's a meme, I think it has serious viewpoints to offer people and leftism as a whole.

On what basis do you say this? Why can't someone like me be a Buddhist, simply because of my "race"? According to you, can only northern Indians be Buddhists? I do not understand what you mean.

I do my readings on Access To Insight, but that's only for Theravada.

Howso?

Where do you get this information from? Can you provide any references at all to the Buddha, or the original community of monks, laying out rules for taxation?

I don't follow the Dalai Lama personally, however I've heard him describe himself as a Marxist or at least sympathetic to Marxism.

Why are you being a racist? The irony is that it is so antithetical to the principles of Buddhism of non-attachment and even right speech that you say these things. Do you have any scriptural basis for your exclusionary attitude toward Buddhism?

I don't see why they must be necessarily linked.

This does not ring true to me; the dhamma is passed down from teacher to student. Of course having a certain reference point helps, but you've provided no evidence that it is either (i) required (ii) innate and cannot be adopted.

To say that one is in a certain situation because of one's kamma can't really be said - the Buddha said that it's impossible to know the precise workings of kamma. I think "victim blaming" can be eliminated, and I don't think it logically follows from the belief in rebirth. Nor is it an argument against improving material conditions.

There are a couple of passages specifically against the caste system. I think it is more of a problem to be worked around than to mean the abandonment of Buddhism. It's the wrong attitude toward kamma and rebirth that causes this caste system you describe.

As for the Theravada and even Early Buddhism I do not believe there are any passages against women attaining nibbana. However I could be wrong about this.

There are several things that could be happening:
(i) the Buddha was wrong about this
(ii) it's a misquote
(iii) it's a later addition
(iv) it could really be that women simply cannot attain Buddhahood

Although as far as I know, the Pali canon suggests the first cannot be a possibility, it does not rule out the others. Another user has posted this:

Buddhism is just as "authentic" in East Asia as it is in Europe. They are both transmissions that adapted to the host culture. Of course no branch of Buddhism today is "authentic", but there are some closer than others. Even Theravada monks have talked about reverting to Early Buddhism.

I think it is wrong to think that your own interpretation of Buddhism though your cultural lense is more valid than others. Nobody can claim more validity other than the original sangha.

My favorite movements are Baroque, Surrealism, Art Nouveau (Mucha in particular, I could be missing some movements out. But you get the picture of general taste.

People who can only look at what's in the Sistine Chapel, this state mandated shit and the romantic that was inspired by it are hopeless artless fools.

I thought romanticism was shit too because that was the opinion I was told to have by bourgeois "art world" faggots, then I actually looked at it.

They believe it for a reason. And Dali ended his life with Fascist, sympathies, I hardly admire Dali.

Saying he was inspired by Romanticism means nothing, there are plenty of other artists his greater or worse, but nonetheless great, that were among his peers.

Picasso comes to mind when I think someone in the general sense everyone's heard of with a body of work better than Dali.

Magritte?

But this is amazing

Okay, if we are all but ignorant white swine, then tell us what Buddhism is since you: an Asian, are clearly the only one capable of providing insight as to what Buddhism is all about, I insist, especially since you know English, that means that you can translate the texts that are straight from the sources, I'm sure. Nevermind that people in this thread have been trying to give honest insights into what it's all about, because they're white! It's not like it's possible for religions to have several interpretations of its material, leading to radically different results en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_violence Buddhism is the least reactionary religion in the world! Honest!

You're really living up to your trip

Also

You know a lot of Agnostics get a bad rep for supposedly being "pussies on the fence", but goddamn that's actually Agnosticism for pussies

What does this mean? Religion can provide a form of utopian socialist vision, Some leftists act really idealist in their critiques of it.

oh this is the Dalai Lama's full quote

That's because arrogant Westerners lack the frame work to categorize Eastern culture. The divide between philosophy and religion makes no sense in the eyes of a Buddhist practitioner, it's academics who create these categories and limit their understandings.

No need to be upset, she grew up in a Buddhist culture and rightly sees a lot of ignorance in this thread. However she displays herself to be far from Buddhist virtues and beyond her cultural experience doesn't look like she can offer a lot of insight into Buddhism. Even the brightest academic will be an amateur if they lack praxis

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You better fuck off with that nonsense because if you're going with that narrative then Asia is just as guilty no matter what way you paint it. As for AnFem, I'm personally mad at the fact that she tries to present herself as having the high moral-ground because she "just knows it more because muh Asian religion" even though Buddhism has been heavily influenced by Hellenistic Greek culture (see my posts from back on Christmas >>1177877 ), so I don't think she can truly argue that Buddhism goes by some unexplainable "Asian perspective". I mean for fucks sake I have a friend who was arguing with an online friend about how Japan have this weird, unexplainable "Japanese perspective" on shit which was absolutely fucking autistic

Look at it this way: I seem to at least be one of the few PA fags on this board, and you would probably sit here and tell me that I'm retarded if I straight up told you that you don't live in Pennsylvania, so you would never understand Amish people, nor why Gifford Pinchot was a proto-greenie

Empathy and rationality are patriarchal constructs. The shit you're saying is like, so boring, it's not new, we've heaaaard this before. Not like our fire new 150 year old dialectical theory. You can't know anything about these things because I have the lived experiences. Full stop. And if you think otherwise, literally NO ONE cares dude jej. Good luck with your fuccboi neckbeard revolution without my twitter sass game on deck. If I had my way every last human being on the planet would be made to sit down and read the Huffington Post until it was drilled into their puny little brain, as I stood watching and smirking in contempt.

Does she still make videos?

And Buddhism influenced the whole German hermeneutic school of philosophy.

Gave me a giggle

Buddhism influenced German philosophers greatly. Nietzsche, Schopenhauer and even Hegel in some respects. Where do you think the concept of "nothingness" and anti-essentiaism (ex. the lack of self) comes from?

Many aren't as sensitive to the origin of these things when they read those philosophers because they don't read Eastern literature

Btw, I'm not claiming any superiority for anything.

God damn are you going to get triggered by feminism and anti-racism in every thread.

We've come full circle.

This is the sort of thing that people won't stop talking about. Japanese people talk about it to reinforce the validity of nihonjinron and Japanese exceptionalism, and other people talk about it to reinforce the idea of the mystic East that the "white man" may never truly understand.

It's rubbish, and it's a shame to see that people don't get called out on it when they do it.

Why are Marxists such larpers?

lol at AnFem.

Incidentally, she inadvertantly raises a funny point I've noticed about Asian American SJWs.

Although they bitch and whine about "orientalism", they secretly love the idea that "the east" is this source of esoteric wisdom and that its culture is inscrutable to pigdog westerners. It gives them a sense of chauvinistic pride in such racial exclusivity.

Asian Americans: Worst SJWs or worst SJWs?

le exotic orient XDDDD

yeah, alright GUY

"muh buddhism" is a common argument by people who think a specific religion they don't like should be legally prohibited. Invoked both by liberals that hate Christians and reactionaries that blame Islam for literally everything.

Also, exoticism, like others have said.

Don't make me play all the black notes on the piano and thereby create a classic of Chinese composition dude.

Buddhism vanilla is slave mentality off the charts
Western buddhism is basically good boy points

I automatically hate any non-asian who says they're buddhist

I didn't see your post as anything against me, I just had to point out that I giggled at the idea that Hermeneutics is the profession of >what did they mean by this

Mad respect for Buddhism. Most nihilist religion.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_mummies
monks who dgaf so much they just died.

how do you people think so highly of yourself i seriously dont get it

Well, for starters, people want to throw in their two cents to seem smart. Notice how anons that actually have an in-depth knowledge of Buddhism, like , , or
, are being ignored in favor of throwing their opinions into the thread pile.

You have the classic misconceptions here along with some weird ones, like the Dalai Lama being the Pope of Buddhism, Buddhism supporting the caste system, Buddhism being a religion of servitude, Buddhism is only for Asians, etc.

Secondly, this is a thread about Buddhism (which most people in the West have little understanding of, knowledge is limited to pop culture depictions like on TV or Facebook), created during a time when Holla Forums is constantly shitposting here, angry about Trump slander. Of course Holla Forumslacks are going to be the people responding to this thread.