So was I a Synth the whole time?

David Allen
David Allen

I finished pirated FO4 and the DLC. And then I was thinking about the opening, your child gets stolen, but then you are put back into cryo, and then you wake up and everyone is dead but you, and the entire cryo facility failed. How are you still alive?

And then how the Prototype Synth in Far Harbor wonders if you are a Synth.

Isn't it interesting that for the entire prologue, your memories of the Nuclear war are within 15 ft of Baby Shaun at all times?

Why would Father create a child version of himself that never ages, that would watch you grow old and die?

Did the originally you actually die in the Vault with the others? Was Father obsessed with making the family he never had by creating you as the synth parent, and him as the synth child???

All urls found in this thread:
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Dcstory2.msg
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Super_mutant
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Cat
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline
Adam Jackson
Adam Jackson

I'm an idiot. please laugh at me
memeout 4 thread
check my dubs and kill yourself

Jaxson Young
Jaxson Young

Bethesda can't write for shit.

Daniel Gonzalez
Daniel Gonzalez

Its 2 deep for you OP

Aaron Long
Aaron Long

You and your family died, the Vault was both a cryogenic facility AND a virtual reality simulator, you died, and the last living memory of your life turned into multiple simulations and varying changes, and outside, a certain Mutant Brotherhood of STEAL discovered the Vault then raped everyone's dead frozen corpse.

Gabriel Baker
Gabriel Baker

you are actually Ness from Undertail

Grayson Clark
Grayson Clark

Why do you go to a thread for a game you don't like and then post? Wouldn't you just want it to die?

Levi Williams
Levi Williams

The will to shitpost is greater

David Murphy
David Murphy

If we don't express our dislike for a certain thread or topic, more retards like you will flock into Holla Forums and think it's okay to post that shit here.
Lurk more.

Easton Fisher
Easton Fisher

I went to the WoW thread and the sage bombing just seems to be encouraging that guy, so…. good work i guess?

Alexander Green
Alexander Green

Don't like Holla Forums? Just go to an echochamber like reddit. :^)

Luis Wright
Luis Wright

you mean sagebombing isn't the same as downvoting a thread until its invisible? huh.

Zachary Williams
Zachary Williams

Because Fallout 4 is truly garbage, look user there are some games people like and others don't. But there are games that are truly bad.

Owen Williams
Owen Williams

lot of anons liked original fallout so you cannot blame them that they dont want to discuss the newest Bethesda open world experience simulator™.

Brody Collins
Brody Collins

Witness my dubs.

Aaron Green
Aaron Green

rollin

Christopher Fisher
Christopher Fisher

twenty fucking seven please

66 is fine too

Leo Wood
Leo Wood

1 GET

John Brooks
John Brooks

ware shark

Easton Bell
Easton Bell

Meh just sounds like another echochamber to me, don't talk about Dragons Crown on reddit, don't talk about Fallout 4 on Holla Forums same thing, different retards.

Thanks for the info.

Oliver Cruz
Oliver Cruz

rolling

Grayson Brooks
Grayson Brooks

np m8 now you can fuck off to wherever you came from

David Morgan
David Morgan

already gave you an entire 3 hour long video on why it is shit.

Alexander Murphy
Alexander Murphy

You know that's probably the most brilliant thing I've ever heard. However the fact that everyone was dead even though your son didn't die from old age yet is itself it's own plot hole, the chamber opening then closing again probably did something to your chamber and in turn you that didn't affect everyone else which is why they somehow died.

Adam Long
Adam Long

Bethshit 4

So anons, was the master right?

Thomas Price
Thomas Price

I hope I don't completely fuck it up.

Jonathan King
Jonathan King

No.
He basically wanted to turn everyone into niggers.

Camden Stewart
Camden Stewart

rollin

Charles Butler
Charles Butler

rolololo

Luis Morgan
Luis Morgan

Works for me

Samuel Thompson
Samuel Thompson

The Chambers were all working at the time the baby was stolen.

When you wake up 60 yrs later all the chambers have failed except yours.

Plus theres blocked logs in the institute that you can never read. Blocked by Father.

Cooper Johnson
Cooper Johnson

rollan

Colton Jackson
Colton Jackson

Let'd do dis :–DDD

Cameron Morris
Cameron Morris

fo1 was great on everything but the master was retarded
I will create a masterrace and rebuild humanity
Supermutants are sterile bro
HOW COULDNT I THINK OF THAT

Seriously I absolutely love the game but that part ruins it every time I think about it. As far as I remember, you find something proving they are sterile but if anyone knows any detail about this do post it

Lucas Ward
Lucas Ward

girl gamer friend group/harem
Fine by me.

Jordan Myers
Jordan Myers

roll on

Christopher Perez
Christopher Perez

rollin

Ayden Nguyen
Ayden Nguyen

fuck my shit up please

Leo Torres
Leo Torres

playing fallout 4
going to reddit
admitting you're going to reddit
/ovens/index.html

Nicholas Lewis
Nicholas Lewis

observe, numbers.

Christopher Rodriguez
Christopher Rodriguez

niggers.

Owen Long
Owen Long

nigger

Ryder Morgan
Ryder Morgan

^numbers

Brody Wright
Brody Wright

Time is money. Pirating this peace of trash and playing it is just as bad as buying.

Jaxon Nguyen
Jaxon Nguyen

niggers

David Ross
David Ross

more numbers soon

Jack Morris
Jack Morris

numbers?

Juan Powell
Juan Powell

rollllin

Wyatt Lewis
Wyatt Lewis

ROLL IT MOTHER FAKKAS !

Camden Cox
Camden Cox

lot of anons dont want to discuss
Which is why they join the thread and post on it. Wait…

And this is why self-moderation is shit. Because it all turns into self-censorship or tyranny of the majority until only one type of people are around to circlejerk together and nothing ever gets discussed.

Not everyone had the birds and the bees talk with their parents…

Blake Garcia
Blake Garcia

something that's not a shit, please

Asher Martinez
Asher Martinez

rolling

Alexander Hall
Alexander Hall

It's not really like that.
I advise you to replay it with a charismatic character and try to chat up the Mutants at Mariposa Base. Or maybe this info came from the Fallout Bible, can't recall.

Basically, the Mutants were made, they rolled around, made more mutants and all was well.
Then the "smarter" Mutants, the "Gen One" one's discovered that holy shit, they're sterile.
Now you'd think they tell the Master about it but they purposedly avoided doing that.
"Hey dude, your dick still works right?"
"Uh… yeah, sure boss."
"Good, good."

They pretty much knew or expected the Master to breakdown or stop helping them. The guy at Mariposa base pretty much tells you or again, the Fallout Bible that their own plan comes up to "Let's just kidnap more people and keep making Mutants that way, yeah that will work."

I think that might make a neat setting if enough time pass.
no more humans to be found
everyone they could find is already super-mutant
mutants make pens/zoos/reservations
they put the last normal humans in them
breed them like cattle
forced breeding
just to take the young and make more mutants
a few guys escape/overthrow one of the reservations
resistence forms up, uses former reservation as military base
And then the game starts. If I had to write the finalle too:
pitched battle against a large bastion of super mutants
tons of people dying, hope fading fast
get to a radio tower, trying to signal for reinforcements
all other reservations go silent
all squads and platoons don't respond
radio silence for a while while you watch mutants slaughter your comrades
Crackle from the radio
"This is Frank Horrigan, we're on our way, MAGGOT"

Zachary Reed
Zachary Reed

rollin'

Elijah Hughes
Elijah Hughes

this is group ostracization. It works very well

Lincoln Sullivan
Lincoln Sullivan

Nice singles, bro.

rollan

William Watson
William Watson

Could be worse.

Dylan Green
Dylan Green

It works very well for Tumblr and Reddit too. But working well doesn't make it good if it's still bad, on the contrary.

Julian Scott
Julian Scott

roll

Kayden Nelson
Kayden Nelson

fallout 4 being an abhorrent abomination of an rpg doesnt mean that you cant have at least interesting discussion about it. new Holla Forums is fucking cancer and has been that way for a long time now. the fact that it is a little less shit than 4chan does not make it good. and the redditors have probably been here for a long time now you fucking idiots. hotwheels openly invited them and Holla Forums is not some sekrit club nor does it any vip quality.
this whole back to reddit thing is honestly more a sad joke than anything else now.
take a good hard look at this board before posting anything like that ever again you faggots.

Camden Baker
Camden Baker

Yes you was.

You could use VATS in tutorial dungeon without pipboy, that was the main hint on being a synth. VATS is implemented by pipboy only, its an application. Fallout 4 character has this "application" inserted in his anus already.

Jaxon Lopez
Jaxon Lopez

Or Bethesda is just too retarded to disable it.

Lincoln Bailey
Lincoln Bailey

No, bethesda is not THAT stupid.

Aaron Torres
Aaron Torres

It works very well
It works so well Holla Forums is shit.

Daniel Brown
Daniel Brown

No, bethesda is not THAT stupid.
Are you sure?
Because I'm pretty sure they're THAT stupid.
For fuck sake buddy, they put the "GRENADE KEY" on the same button as the "MELLEE KEY".
You only need like 7 neurons and 3 seconds to think up on why this is a terrible horrenduous idea, and they did it anyway. I wouldn't put ANYTHING past them.

Caleb Sullivan
Caleb Sullivan

/thread

Noah Jenkins
Noah Jenkins

all that shit
Redditors out themselves by not actually behaving like a member of the community and generally shitting up the place. As with every group there are a set of rules that everybody is aware of if they aren't fucking retarded. Your use of faggot while trying to look like you belong here to get people to accept other faggots just outs you as a faggot. Nobody wants reddit here. They turn every place they go into reddit and nobody here likes reddit. Fuck off.

Oliver Sanchez
Oliver Sanchez

Trying to find depth in a depthless game.

This is worse than the Squall's dead thing. The game is shit OP, stop trying to over think it.

Aaron Ross
Aaron Ross

That's what Reddit claims about the voting system. And the Karma system.
"It's working rather well for us!"
That's because they can't see the harm it brings them. The whole thing is built to HIDE shit.
Same with your self-censorship. If you don't want to talk about a game, it's your choice. If you try to shove your self-moderation on other people, expect to be called out on it.
And no, yelling "cuck, shill" and memes isn't proper discussion. Pointing out that yet again, Bethesda doesn't know what to do with the "Charisma" stat (after New Vegas handled it pretty well) is proper discussion.

Ayden Murphy
Ayden Murphy

11690822
I am sarcastic. Only the most retarded play fallout 4.
Like my father for example

I imagine next bethesda open world game being just as empty as no man's sky, just with mod support and screams that mods will fix it.

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

Your use of faggot
Oh man, after "reddit spacing" stoped being a thing, I can't wait until the "proper use of faggot" becomes the new boggeyman to identify redditors.
you used the word faggot incorrectly!
back to reddit!

You'd think it'd be something more substantical, like the over abuse of "kys" and "tbh" or the overreliance on the word "poz" to express something that can be more clearly stated in a few dozen ways.
But no. It's the proper etiquette on calling someone a faggot that matters.
Fucking amazing.

Ryan Cook
Ryan Cook

Arbitrary use of terminology is an obvious, easily observable thing people do when first trying to assimilate into a community. "reddit spacing" is a meme. Forced use of vocabulary is real. You have a reddit account, don't you? :^)

Eli Cox
Eli Cox

You bet I do, I deeply enjoy the convoluted and retarded layout, and I made an account just so I could receive fixes for games by PM and noone can see it in public :^)
I use google to find shit in there because I never understood their shitty layout. Click a title, takes you to a third party website what the fuck.

I'm not trying to be hostile with you user.
The point I'm making is that when you chase bogeyman like that people stop focusin on ideas and arguments.
Yeah, maybe someone said something great or brilliant but watchout sport!, he said a no-no word, and that means he's an outsider. He must be shunned and shamed.

I get kind of upset about it because it's pretty much how new writers treat Lovecraft. "Oh maybe he wrote a lot of good stuff, but he said NIGGER a few times, that means he's the spawn of Satan and we must burn all his books."

In a more vidya related example, someone starting a thread to talk about a shit game isn't the end of the world. We can talk about why it's shit and what it did wrong. It's not as interesting as talking about a good game and what made it good, but hey, it's still a great way to pass the time.
I mean, Ass Defect Andromeda has a thread 24/7 where user's shit on it, and that game isn't out yet, so we don't even know the full extent of it's fuck ups.

Should we cease all discussion of it once the game drops like this thread is doing to Fallout 4?
I haven't bought nor played fallout 4 for instance. I heard too many bad things about it. I'm still greatly interested in hearing what other anons experiences with it were.

Carter Jenkins
Carter Jenkins

They fucking admitted a few years ago that the reason there are no ladders in their games is because they don't know how to program them.

They fucking can't be assed to program "upon action on ladder, play X animation and move up every frame"

Chase Gonzalez
Chase Gonzalez

I should replay with charisma yes, I've rolled everything but charisma. And only in one of the replays I found out about the sterility. It might be on the bible, I remember reading something about psykers but not mutants. Anyway thanks

Connor Brooks
Connor Brooks

maybe if I act like I hate reddit enough it'll look like I'm not a fag
I used nigger, that'll work
no sage for OT
I'm an idiot. please laugh at me
It isn't McCarthyism. Repeatedly the sort of people who go to reddit are the same people who kill everything good.

Leo Evans
Leo Evans

sarcasm
sarcasm
useless sage
insult
And then a politics reference followed by scapegoating some perceived on someone else.

That's your whole post. Right after I said I'm trying to to be hostile with you. You're not really giving me a lot to respond to, and there isn't much we can keep discussing if that's all you're gonna do.

Juan Rodriguez
Juan Rodriguez

"Charisma Run" should be mandatory along with "Stupid Run".
Felt pretty great managing to finish the Cathedral AND the Mariposa base without entering combat once. Yes, it's very much possible.

Nicholas Wright
Nicholas Wright

scapegoating some perceived evil on someone else.
Right after I said I wasn't trying
fucked that up

Aaron Roberts
Aaron Roberts

25 minutes in to the video, and it's actually pretty great. Thanks user.

Benjamin Peterson
Benjamin Peterson

fuck off with your liberty DUDE WEED LMAO XD. Become part of community. Freddom for something is far superior to freedome of someone

Jack Kelly
Jack Kelly

Rawlin

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

What in the name of fuck happened to the entirety of that post?

John Cook
John Cook

Did game told you that you are synth after 5 minutes of playing? If not you are not.

Jose Reed
Jose Reed

Nigger it's a bad game with no reedeming values, at least skirim has interesing mods fo4 is just bad. There's nothing to discuss, if you insist we might as well discuss fo3

Kayden Cook
Kayden Cook

You are defending people who are the opposite of what imageboards are supposed to be and acting like you're doing it because it's somehow "better" for the community. The "politics reference" was used because it was actually relevant. Strangely enough years after the Red Scare/McCarthyism died down and everybody decided McCarthy was a loon it was actually discovered that quite a few of the people he accused actually were communists (and more). Do you see where I'm going with this? Since reddit has proven to kill communities by policing shit to the point that nothing is discussed they should not be here. There is an entire board of people discussing video games that somehow manage to keep discussing unpopular games alongside everything else. The issue generally only comes up with posts like claiming that somehow not wanting people who have been known to kill communities and silence discussion here is somehow cancerous. Further, telling the people here to not chase boogeymen is kind of pointless seeing as most of the people here are people who got kicked out of halfchan when it got taken over by (for lack of a better term) PC pushing people infiltrating the community and mods that were antithetical to the culture there. They're going to be a bit more wary the second time.

Brody Wright
Brody Wright

caring about the story in Fallout 4
They weren't paying attention with what they were doing, mate.
I'll give you some examples
cats went extinct
cats are in FO4
capacitors weren't invented until near the beginning of the war (if I remember correctly) century therefor were never used
capacitors are widely used in FO4
Jet wasn't invented until the mid 23rd century
there's a shipment of Jet dated to the early 21st century in FO4
power armor was built to last hundreds of years
power armor lasts for a few minutes in FO4
cryogenic chambers cause post-cryogenic syndrome, more technically known as "environmental rejection syndrome"
cryogenics work flawlessly in FO4
suddenly Assaultrons exist out of nowhere
they were supposedly created by RobCo
you don't see them in Fallout 3 despite how they should be abundant due to what their supposed role was
there is literally no mention of them anywhere in any single Fallout game other than 4 and Shelter
there is no explanation for any of this

Angel Nguyen
Angel Nguyen

Actually good point :^)

no reedeming values
I'd argue otherwise. The shooting does feel nice and it's improved from the previous games, which ain't much of a surprise considering both how low the bar was set but also that ID software helped them there.

Some anons report it's a fun loot hoarding dungeon-delving game, that if you play it like Nethack or similar and don't give a fuck about dialogues, quests or NPCs, it's still somewhat fun.
And the modding potential appears to be much higher as well (but I actually doubt this because lo, -no stats\skills)

we might as well discuss fo3
Well, if you insist…

I'd argue that FO3 is a worse game gameplay-wise by a large amount, even with the loss of skills and the changes to SPECIAL, but it's story is far better.
While still being fairly retarded on it's own way, at least it does the stupid black&white morality quite well, portraying the characters they wanted to be bad guys as bad guys and the good guys as good guys.

It's a bit shitty how the Enclave is framed as literal Nazis, but at least they are consistent with it, unlike the Institute that's both "ebul bastards that kill innocent robutts" but also "super advanced enlightned faction".

Jason Harris
Jason Harris

You are trying way to hard to avoid "reddit spacing" and the result is an unreadable wall of text.
Post that politics bullshit on /pol/, link me there and we'll carry the conversation on the right board for those topics, if you want.

Source on the cats thing because that's a fun detail.
Also, you're mixing up transistors with capacitors. Transistors are the things that never got invented in the Fallout world.
Transistors allowed for smaller and smaller circuits that lead to the computers we have today while Fallout had to make do with magnetic tapes and whatnot instead.
Capacitors were already invented long time before that.

Connor Wright
Connor Wright

Rawling

Bentley Carter
Bentley Carter

Could be worse

Jack Rivera
Jack Rivera

rollan

Benjamin Turner
Benjamin Turner

Source on the cats thing because that's a fun detail.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Dcstory2.msg
This dialog is a bit out of order, so you may have to reread the whole thing a few times to get which parts come first.
The way she words everything implies they don't exist anymore.

Levi Morris
Levi Morris

That's kinda bullshit, though. I mean, cat is basically rabbit when it comes to cooking but with a longer tail.
However, catching cats is fairly hard and they do well enough on their own in the wilds to truly go extinct that easily.
I'd expect dogs to die off before cats, considering how dependant they are on humans.

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

The proximity is because they were trying to get you to emotionally invest in the young McGuffin. If you were a synth, the factions would have worked it out. The Railroad, for example, would have been less cuntish.

You could explain it by the Den having imperfect knowledge of the rest of the world, vaults with cats being opened and them redistributing. But odds are it's just more retconning.
you discover Jet in pre-war structures

Brandon Harris
Brandon Harris

You could explain it by the Den having imperfect knowledge of the rest of the world
Mr. House in FONV also says cats went extinct,
It's just Beth retconning, as you said.

Jonathan Cox
Jonathan Cox

Physics and movement speed is tied to frame rate

They are indeed that fucking stupid

Sebastian Anderson
Sebastian Anderson

Don't forget load times. If you cap your framerate at something reasonable, say, 60fps, you will have ridiculously slower load times than if you play at an uncapped framerate.

Nicholas Martin
Nicholas Martin

That's actually sadly common in vidya.
But it's certainly not common among modern AAA devs. Jesus Christ, Beth.

John Myers
John Myers

Rolling.

Noah Foster
Noah Foster

You're too naive.

Oliver Thompson
Oliver Thompson

rolling

Hudson Ross
Hudson Ross

roll

Alexander Green
Alexander Green

Well, I might be wrong, but I remember some supermutant pornstar in 2 told you that supermutants were actually fertile a few years after they transformation. Also I think there were going to be second generation supermutants (sons of supermutants) in the what should have been fallout 3, or at least there was some concept art.

Elijah Harris
Elijah Harris

ROLLAN

Nathaniel Evans
Nathaniel Evans

somehow not wanting people who have been known to kill communities and silence discussion here is somehow cancerous
yet you are the one trying to silence discussion about videogames. what does this imply?
you did not understand what i wrote. reddit is already here - take a look at the catalogue.

also
your wrong use of faggot outs you as a faggot

Noah Green
Noah Green

thinking bethesda could pull off anything this deep
I am sorry, user, but that game was retarded. I really doubt they stuck that much consideration in.

Jaxon Robinson
Jaxon Robinson

he goes on reddit enough to know which games to talk and not talk about

YOU OUTED YOURSELF

LURK

MOAR

Cameron Taylor
Cameron Taylor

"While Marcus the mutant in Fallout 2 claims that "it only takes a few years to get the juices flowing again" (in regards to sterility), Chris Avellone, who wrote the dialogue said that it was just a joke. "
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Super_mutant

Samuel Fisher
Samuel Fisher

Well, there goes my modded New Vegas adventure.

Christian Flores
Christian Flores

paying attention to anything anyone at bethesda says about fallout lore

Fallout 3 and 4 are not canon.

Aaron Bell
Aaron Bell

rollan

Alexander Miller
Alexander Miller

You forget where you are
This shitty fucking game has been discussed to death, I was actually looking forward for a mediocre comfy walking sim full of crazy that I could mod after pirating.
Instead its Fallout: Boderlands with generic SciFi mixed in.
Its fucking awful in every way.

Its fucking

Landon Scott
Landon Scott

Bethesda may have retcon'ed it in Fallout 3
"Some cats were possibly thrown into the FEV vats by the Master in the Mariposa Military Base and the Vault-Tec scientists in Vault 87, together with humans, dogs and other animals. The misshapen centaurs are the result of this mix. " http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Cat
If we are going by sequence then House would be wrong/a double retcon.

As much as I hate Bethesda's handling of the lore and universe it is a viable explanation that House doesn't know everything and is capable and prone to making mistakes. After all he chose Benny to be his protege.

Chris never worked for Bethesda.

Nicholas Reed
Nicholas Reed

Bethout lore
Canon

Owen Baker
Owen Baker

why is it taking so fucking long to have sexmods in fo4.

Joshua Sanchez
Joshua Sanchez

Because nobody cares enough about F4 to make them.

Xavier Barnes
Xavier Barnes

Rollin

Jaxon Williams
Jaxon Williams

reddit doesn't like Dragon's Crown
Why?
Why do they have to have such shit taste?

It's literally one of the few good games to own on the ps3

Bentley Moore
Bentley Moore

Those are some nice bugs at 8 seconds.

Adrian Jenkins
Adrian Jenkins

Because tits of the wizard are too big. That's why.

Angel Price
Angel Price

implying you're not a retard here with your "Let's discuss video games…except these, because I don't like them and my tastes should be law" mentality

Hudson King
Hudson King

they're afraid of tits

Cooper Garcia
Cooper Garcia

rude

Hudson Howard
Hudson Howard

Let me be a honest man here. The reason why we don't want you to play bad vidya, is for you to enjoy good vidya, so you wouldn't shill or support shit vidya, and we can all enjoy good vidya being made later.

Holla Forums is a very angry yandere. We wish you well, but only if you get on our standarts.

William Johnson
William Johnson

If you have already said everything you had to say about the game, you can stop posting.
Anyone else that wants to talk about it is free to do so. It doesn't matter if they want to talk shit or good about it. As long as someone wants to talk about it, he has the right to start a thread and anyone interested is free to join in and discuss it too.

Any attempt at stopping that, any sort of preventive measure aimed at stopping threads from happening despite some people still having interest in discussing them is simply going against everything freedom of speech stands for, no matter how many mental gymnastics you run in your head.
You are free to tell us to stop making these threads, just like we are free to tell you no and keep at it.

/v/ is one person
we
YANDERE
OH THE MOTHERFUCKING IRONY

Jace Allen
Jace Allen

rollin

Julian Howard
Julian Howard

Or maybe cats went extinct in parts of America, the parts that House knows about and monitors, but some still have cats. Or perhaps they went extint inbetween games, so the few last ones were still alive in FO1 but from 2 and onwards, they were truly extinct.

Honestly, it's shit either way. Cats are not such easy prey unless you're willing to spend ammo on them, and even then good luck with that. Their population could be severely reduced, even nullified near big metropolis, but they would still make it in the wildnerness unlike most dogs.

Literally because "mature games for mature gamers like me".
They believe that you are not allowed to like anything with fan service and pandering on it because that's bad and you're playing a game that you most likely don't even like but keep doing it for the tits.
They can't understand the idea of playing for pleasing aesthetics, even if all they please is your dick, or playing a game because it's just fun.
Reminds you of someone? :^)

Dylan Cook
Dylan Cook

rolling for amalia

Ayden Perry
Ayden Perry

If you want to talk about AAA turds, there is always Reddit or NeoGaf. Holla Forums is not a soap box for people to show off their shit-ass taste.

Charles Carter
Charles Carter

Rollan

Jack Green
Jack Green

freedom of speech

Imageboards were never about freedom of speech. The Exodus was not about freedom of speech either, you turdmongler, it was about escaping a sinking, commercialized and casualized hellhole. The same commercialism and casual retardation people like OP are trying to introduce here too.

Nathaniel Clark
Nathaniel Clark

rollin

Nicholas Thompson
Nicholas Thompson

Go to the Andromeda thread and go tell everyone there to stop talking about Ass Effect then. They shouldn't be allowed to talk about it, even if they are just talking shit about it, then. :^)

Imageboards were never about freedom of speech.
Now who's the newfag?

Levi Smith
Levi Smith

You're a retard.

Telling people they're morons for liking a game, telling them we've already discussed the game to death, telling them there's no reason to talk about a shitty game made by a shitty company, does not do jack against 'free speech'.
This is libcuck rubbish. Free speech applies to what is allowed to be said as far as administration. As in, here I can call you a dicksucking son of a kraut whore without getting banned.

Kill yourself.

Angel Morris
Angel Morris

Nu/v/ incarnate in this thread.

Parker Sanders
Parker Sanders

Fuck it why not
plz be Evengaline she is best elf grill

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

roll

Josiah Torres
Josiah Torres

5 is the best and you are wrong if you disagree.

John Powell
John Powell

rollan

Jeremiah Lopez
Jeremiah Lopez

Except all of that is perfectly okay to do and nobody cares. In fact, it even shows your lack of reading comprehension since nobody in this thread so far has said they like the game at all.
Or how it shows your own egocentrism in the "I've already discussed this so you, who came late, shouldn't have the oportunity to do it now".

The problem is the idea that these threads shouldn't be started because of the theme they talk about. The problem is not the criticism, by all means keep it coming. The problem is the idea that it shouldn't have a platform at all.

Just let people talk about all the shitgames they want. Let them discuss how truly horrible they are, how inferior and badly done they were made and compare them to previous ones.
Let people form their own ideas instead of insisting that everyone follows the hivemind.

You think that if these threads are allowed, people will think it's okay to like and talk about FO4.
Actually, if these threads don't happen, people will forget what's wrong with the game, they'll think that maybe it wasn't so bad and they'll even be curiours enough about the game that they'll have to buy and play it to know all this.

You don't silence madmen, you give them a platform so everyone can see how mad he is and ignore him afterwards.
Taking him away just makes everyone believe he might have had something good to say.

Cameron Johnson
Cameron Johnson

I prefer 1 over all of them but 5 is a close contender

Landon King
Landon King

Mr house is retconning. Fallout 2 talks about how some girl had a pet cat.

NV is just as fucking garbage with the lore as everything else

Ethan Adams
Ethan Adams

Yes, please. Post more of those. That's exactly what we need.
Now, when someone wants funny "ROLLING" pics or "debate thiis" pics, all he has to do is post FO4 in the OP, thanks for creating that idea.

Or even better: "Hum… I wonder what Holla Forums thinks about FO4. Last thread they sure talked a lot and they didn't said that many bad things about the game… Guess I'll ask again"

You are truly the backseat moderator that Holla Forums needs.

Liam Johnson
Liam Johnson

Stop oppressing my right to yell at faggots who want to talk about things. That's part of freech too!

Aiden Turner
Aiden Turner

5 is good, but 25 is essentially the same and more so it's better, it's just missing the fringe

New Vegas happens several years after Fallout 2, no? It's possible that cats went extinct in between games.
They also don't happen in the same place.

You can yell at faggots all you want, I do it too, it's quite fun.
But don't demand that people stop making threads about the things they want to talk about.

John Gomez
John Gomez

5 is the best
anything but 21, 28, 30 and 47
good

Thomas Gutierrez
Thomas Gutierrez

not preferring long, beautiful hair
Anything above shoulder length is for faggots.

Asher Sullivan
Asher Sullivan

New Vegas happens several years after Fallout 2, no? It's possible that cats went extinct in between games.

Extremely doubtful.

They also don't happen in the same place.

If you want to make that argument then there's no possible justification for whinging about how cats are extinct in the first place. The entire nitpicking idea of OMG HOUSE SAID CATS ARE DED HOW CAN DIS GAME HAVE DEM? is so retarded that it astonishes me that people still bring it up to this day as some kind of legitimate justification for why they don't like FO4.

Literally every single game past Fallout started retconing shit left and right, to hold one up as somehow being a lesser violator is a joke. I think this is the thing I find the most insulting about the majority of complaints people make that somehow think that the series went to trash when Bethesda got their hands on it and not when Fallout 2 came out and shit all over the greatness of the first game.

In terms of writing alone, you can accurately rank the Fallout series thusly:

Fallout >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Power gap to end all power gaps > shit >>>>>>> Everything else in the series.

Mason Morales
Mason Morales

rollin'

Ryan Bennett
Ryan Bennett

Rolling.

Easton Russell
Easton Russell

Extremely doubtful.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline
The NCR was formed by Tandi and Shady Sands, it wasn't even a thing during Fallout 1, by the time the Master is about.
It takes several years for NCR to become the faction you find in New Vegas, enough years that the last specimens of cats could go extinct during that time, the very last ones maybe being used by the Master to produce centaurs.

I agree that it's a bullshit point. Cats going extinct before dogs or several other species makes no sense whatosever and it's just another thing people bring up to bash Fallout 4, as if you needed even more reasons.

Literally every single game past Fallout started retconing shit left and right
Did 2 retcon 1 in any way? I honestly can't remenber.
This isn't necessarily bad, though. I greatly enjoy Tactics despite being clearly non-cannon. Retconning is only bad if the writers try to force their lore on top of previous one, merely having it happen in the same world but somewhere as an official spinoff is pretty cool.

Joseph Scott
Joseph Scott

wahh dont tell me what to talk about
Where do you think we are?

Benjamin Powell
Benjamin Powell

Clearly reddit, where the majority dictates what's allowed to be discussed and the rest is hidden with downvotes :^)
You seriously need to go back to your shithole.
Don't you have some topics to downboat or something?

Jason Jenkins
Jason Jenkins

Just watched the whole thing, pretty good but g-d fucking dammnit why i just wasted 3 hours of my life on watching a 3 hours review of a 2 years old shitty game

Aiden Thomas
Aiden Thomas

g-d
Yahweh, YHWH, Jehova, God, Bog, Deus, Theos

Samuel Lopez
Samuel Lopez

rolling

Charles Stewart
Charles Stewart

Clearly reddit, where the majority dictates what's allowed to be discussed and the rest is hidden with downvotes :^)

Absolutely savage

Jace Evans
Jace Evans

You think so?
Then don't forget to upboat my comment, so others can see it while we sink Fallout discussion to the bottom.
It's not censorship after all. It's "self-moderation" :^P

Elijah Hughes
Elijah Hughes

Allah?

Carson Murphy
Carson Murphy

Anyone who makes a post like this doesn't belong here.

Bentley Cooper
Bentley Cooper

some girl
She's a fucking ghoul, she's like 200 years old and was reminiscing about her childhood.

Thomas Hill
Thomas Hill

No one's deleting this thread or hiding it. It's still on the catalog like everything else. The game's year and a half old we've gone in depth on how shit it is, no one likes it, no one's going to talk about it and if you need more reason, see

if it's saging and roll threads what triggers you, then let me help you

Parker Morales
Parker Morales

Money.

Christian Morris
Christian Morris

No one's deleting this thread or hiding it.
For now. It only took a few anons raising up a stink about the 4 am retards and their shitty thread to get it shutdown. Then brought back up when even more people raised a bigger stink.
Might be the most pointless drama ever, it's just a thread where some sad pathetic faggots get together to not feel so sad and pathetic. Leave and let live.

Give it time until Mark starts listening to the "this game is unworthy of threading on MY /v/"-posters and we'll see some new rules pop-up about what games can and can't be discussed.

And if the threads are not being hidden or deleted, why do you keep asking and demanding it? It's not gonna happen anytime soon. Participate, shit on the game, shit on people who bought it day one and have fun with the rest instead of bitching because people want to talk abotu something you don't.

Wyatt Morris
Wyatt Morris

BoS retconned into the Human resistance from Terminator
help a dude fetch something, immediately made a member and promoted to knight, half the people in their territories are initiates still trying to become full members
wants to help the Commonwealth by randomly invading it
Railroad wants synth freedom but just reprogram them into being their own fighters, also half the synths turn into raiders
Minutemen fell apart because everyone turned on each other because why the hell not, still recruit those same people back into the newly reformed group
you're made leader just by killing some raiders and helping a settlement or two
never took the castle back because two dangerous, soon as you come they decide to retake it using only 3 or 4 people
corpses that have been laying around for decades still look like they died the same day especially the Minuteman general
settlement building a major feature, cap limit doesn't let you build shit unless you glitch or get a mod
Institute makes robots to help with work, decides to make them look human and give them sentience despite the problems it brings because why the fuck not
soon as you arrive there you get full access to the entire facility, something nobody there has, along with free reign to teleport in and out whenever the fuck you want despite power problems
Piper is a reporter, yet immediately joins you to run around the wasteland abandoning both her shop and her sister despite the threat of kidnapping because why not
vault dlc let's you build vault, settlement build feature is so shit though you barely can
Contraptions let's you automate and create shit, only useful thing is ammo making
companion AI is even more shit, pathfinding even worse
literally no reason to have shops
power armor everywhere
even raiders use it, justification being they learned how to nigger rig them back into shape
literally nobody else uses them though
settlements all have workshops, random dude frozen for 200 years can build everything from advanced defenses and electrical grids
none of the settlers ever bothered until you arrive though, despite super mutants and raiders being a huge threat
going into the glowing sea will kill you in minutes if not seconds
nothing around extremely dangerous mutants
Children of Atom live right in the heart of it just fine, despite being starved for supplies
only decent companions are Nick and Curie, both robots

Chase Edwards
Chase Edwards

078831 is this asspained because nobody wants to talk about this shitty game

He's going so far as to say that we shouldn't be allowed to tell people to fuck because he deserves the right to talk about what ever he wants.

Christian Adams
Christian Adams

30
This is the only correct answer.

Tyler Moore
Tyler Moore

IN AMERICA

Anthony Nelson
Anthony Nelson

can't quote posts
pathetic.
he deserves the right to talk about what ever he wants.
That's called free speech mate. I DO have the right to talk about what I want. So do you.
Neither of us as the right to force the other to listen, so if you're that assmad about my posts, you click that "hide" button like a little bitch.

Mason Ward
Mason Ward

Abridged Yugi is best abridged series.

Christian Price
Christian Price

can't quote posts
being this butthurt

Jacob Davis
Jacob Davis

I played FO4 recently too, and it's not a shitty game in any way. Note: I boycotted it too when it came out. But I replayed both FO3 and FO4, and I realized I've been harsh on bethesda out of nostalgia. They have not the shitty writing I remembered (played Fo3 when I was around 16, read the blistering stupidity of FO3 a couple years ago and I made my opinion about the game with that).
FO4 is an improvement under all fronts. The only problem is the dialogue wheel, but I understand why it was implemented, it's simply better than long lines in that kind of dialogue mechanic.
Lore wise, FO4 stretch things a bit, but it fits.

-T-60 are basically T-45 with T-51 implementations (like reflecting plating). I assume that converting a T-45 into a T-60 cost as much or less than a T-51, but building a T-60 from scratch costs more. T-51 is still the apex, T-60 isn't really a new or cost-efficient armor.
-Jet has ALWAYS been a pre-war drug. Myron in Fo2 says that. It was produced by mutated bacteria. Myron re-discovered the drug in the brahmin shit. Considering the fact that he knows the drug history it's easy to assume he got a hold on documents about Jet. What Myron did was to seletionate the bacteria to have a version of Jet that is both not dangerous and highly addictive.
-Fusion cores are 200 years old. The shit inside of them is decayed.
-All around the commonwealth you can read about research teams talking with government representatives (the future enclave) about evacuation. So X.01 and vertibirds can be there. Some lines here and there hint about enclave operating in the zone after the war too.
So far the only thing I consider lore rape is vault tek having FEV: Everything else fits, both in FO3 and FO4.
They have been a little goofy trying to picture the factions grey. But they did so because they are stupid and they think people playing their games are stupid too.
But FO4 feels like it was made by real developers. Those who hate it because it's branded "BGS" are on the same level of the bethesda drones that silence criticism by tapping their ears and screaming.

Michael Garcia
Michael Garcia

he's mad!
That's like the Zionists pointing at the Globalists and claiming they're the really bad jews.
Just scamper back to /leftypol/ mate, you're embarassing yourself.

Isaac Hill
Isaac Hill

I almost forgot, no you don't have the right to talk about anything here. Free speech only applies to public venues.

Jack Howard
Jack Howard

Rallon

Jordan Johnson
Jordan Johnson

Oh right, I forgot. 8ch is YOUR private venue right?
You're the guy calling the shots. Sure big man, we'll comply with your rules and only discuss things you deem worth it.
ALL HEIL RANDOM FAGGOT 80671f, FOR HE IS WISE IN ALL THINGS AND MASTER OF 8CH.

Even the board software treats you like a number, don't pretend you have any power.

Owen Hall
Owen Hall

Now this is what I call a fallout 4 thread. But there's not nearly enough booty.

Jordan Brown
Jordan Brown

The last Fallout 4 thread was spammed despite actual discussion happening in it
this one was spammed at first and devolved into meta bullshit later
I greatly dislike that not exactly new, but fairly recent trend of doing shit like this. Yes, it was very funny to spoil the ending to people, even if the spoiler wasn't actually true. Yes, a bunch of this game's fans are frooling retards, which is to be expected of a modern day AAA title.
However, the game has its merits and it has its downsides, the modding community for it is one of the most active of any game at the moment and the latest expansion for it came out fairly recently. There are things to talk about, as I've never seen a proper nuka-world discussion in here, but apparently talking about certain videogames is frowned upon to the point of spam and derail every time.

Cameron Lee
Cameron Lee

Same with your self-censorship
You don't know what the word means. What you're referring to is self-moderation.

With downvotes and karma you have a system that actively removes voices of dissent, actual censorship. The worst that happens to you here is someone calls you a faggot and tries to derail or spam your thread, while not actually stopping you and others from discussing what people don't want you to discuss. Freedom of speech means just that for everyone, meaning you can talk about whatever shit you want and people can complain about it too.

Charles Fisher
Charles Fisher

I hope you become the next (200+)

Jackson Turner
Jackson Turner

rolen

Logan Thomas
Logan Thomas

Synths werent created before the war

Kevin Smith
Kevin Smith

You're expecting a whole lot from nu/v/.

The Second Exodus was the worst thing to happen to 8ch

Alexander Moore
Alexander Moore

Go to the Andromeda thread and go tell everyone there to stop talking about Ass Effect then. They shouldn't be allowed to talk about it, even if they are just talking shit about it, then. :^)

I do that every once in a while, actually.

Michael Mitchell
Michael Mitchell

roolo

Kevin Anderson
Kevin Anderson

You REALLY shouldn't look this deep into a the work of master writers at bethesda

Joshua Rivera
Joshua Rivera

I do that every once in a while, actually.
What about commiting suicide everyonce in a while, no?
Holy shit man, contain your autism and let people talk about shit.
Where's that "autistic screeching" image when you need it.

Julian Roberts
Julian Roberts

I've been playing the game myself, kids got it for Christmas. I can kinda agree with you, power armor at least feels like power armor now and combat is actually fun and bit more challenging than it was even in NV. The story is still retarded though and the companion AI is even more abysmal than in previous games. Also there's hardly any weapons, the justification being you can mod them how you like but the mods don't do much and the final tier ones pretty much combine the different ones into one, mainly recievers, so there's no point anyway in having different receivers. Settlement building is completely gimped, you make a small house and some fences and you're at max cap, also from what I've seen the turrets don't fucking do anything anyway. There's no morality, only hint of your actions even having the slightest effect is the notification that'll pop up on your screen saying " " disliked this. The dialogue options have no effects whatsoever either, doesn't matter if you're an asshole or a goody two shoes. The vault dlc is broken because the settlement building is broken, can only really build your vault in the main area unless you want everyone to step out of it to go on walkways down to the next area which defeats the whole point. Power armor is level listed so if you only found a couple before reaching a high level and you want to make a collection you can't, you'll only get X-01 for the most part along with occasional T-51s, that's just been my own experience though. Most of the buildings dotting the map are boarded up so hardly any exploration either, and the only reason for exploration in this game is to pick up every piece of junk you see so you can build shantytowns on sticks because building on uneven ground will have the fucking structures float and be inaccessible to anyone else. AI pathfinding is shit both for settlers and companions so trying to build anything off the ground is pointless anyway because they literally can't go on stairs for whatever reason. So on and so forth, rest of my criticisms I already posted. For everything

Kevin Ortiz
Kevin Ortiz

k den

Luis Ortiz
Luis Ortiz

posted early

Fug. Anyway, everything Bethshit improves they ruin ten different things in return. The game isn't an RPG and it's barely Fallout, it's just a post apocalyptic shooter and that's it

Thomas Perez
Thomas Perez

I actually like your story better than that crap what bethesda made! I hope they will hire you! ASAP

Ethan Ward
Ethan Ward

I would say that skyrim modding is much more alive than f4 one

And i think that speaks for itself

Charles Phillips
Charles Phillips

That's because they didn't actually improved anything.
The combat was done by ID, who have experience on it and now slave away for Zenimax\Bethesda. That's why it feels like it has some quality in it but the rest of it is shit, like the mods that allows you to make very different weapons except not because Bethesda is terrible at late game stuff.

The settlement mechanic has got to be the most under developed feature in a videogame from that year. Even the caravans that take a perk because reasons and are hidden behind a button you can barely see on the settlement menu, do nothing but let you use what you stashed in one settlement with another.

The entire game could have been based around that settlement and the point and theme of the game be "Reconstructing civilization". It could have been a steady source of caps and resources as long as you settle and install facilities to produce\transform resources and caravans that trade them, leaving a small amount of caps in a strongbox somewhere. You could even have said resources and caps disrupted by raids, giving a purporse to defense.
You could have thematic settlements depending on the faction you joined, including raider settlements.

And yet nothing of that was done, most likely because they expect modders to pickup the slack.

Samuel Watson
Samuel Watson

a roll image on Holla Forums
contains three fucking ponies
no Renamon or an Asari
What the fuck man

James Hall
James Hall

You missed the thread where everyone submitted characters for the roll image, hence the seemingly random selection of characters

Andrew Jackson
Andrew Jackson

Because he got it off reddit.
Yes, they post roll images there too.Without post numbers. No it doesn't make sense. It's just a great meme to them. Reverse search the image and you'll find a buttload of cringe.

Hudson Morgan
Hudson Morgan

BoS retconned into the Human resistance from Terminator
They are coherent with themselves, and by themselves I intend the BoS present back in the original fallout.
help a dude fetch something, immediately made a member and promoted to knight, half the people in their territories are initiates still trying to become full members
You are made knight if the airship has already arrived. Otherwise you are made an initiate.
Railroad wants synth freedom but just reprogram them into being their own fighters, also half the synths turn into raiders
i haven't played for the railroad that long so I don't know what they do to synths. You can have harmless synths as settlers though. Also, escaping synths are just rampant machines like most of the robots in the fallout universe. They are not AI. So it's coeherent for a synth to become a raider, they are malfuctioning machines.
Minutemen fell apart because everyone turned on each other because why the hell not, still recruit those same people back into the newly reformed group
They are meant to be subhumans. Their idiocy is scripted, not accidental. I mean, they lost the castle and their network to crabs, and they thought "oh well". They are basically like the NCR, they try hard to be civilized, but they are savages.
settlement building a major feature, cap limit doesn't let you build shit unless you glitch or get a mod
Settlements are shit, badly implemented and with little purpose. But they have a reason to be in the game. In the west like in the east, having electricity meant having access to prewar generators. In the commowealth, it's easy to build generators and purifiers out of scrap. I assume it was the institute that used synths to spread the blueprints for scrap machinery in the commonwealth.
You might say that BGS is not smart enough to set up something that subtle. I thought the same about mothership zeta back then. That dlc is still cringey and bad, but it's theme fit the game, because it shows what would humanity be if the bombs didn't drop and the enclave had been in charge of USA for 2 more centuries. BGS can be subtle sometimes.
soon as you arrive there you get full access to the entire facility, something nobody there has, along with free reign to teleport in and out whenever the fuck you want despite power problems
You were announced, and they knew why you were there.
Piper is a reporter, yet immediately joins you to run around the wasteland abandoning both her shop and her sister despite the threat of kidnapping because why not
There's little she can report about without going outside of diamond city, the safest settlement in the wasteland and a good place for children to be in.
power armor everywhere
The brotherhood of steel has never been around requisitioning shit.
even raiders use it, justification being they learned how to nigger rig them back into shape
Again, the institute does influence the wasteland. Those that are technological feats in other parts have easy know how in the commonwealth. Why do they educate raiders? Who know, maybe to set up some more chaos that helps them being hidden. Maybe the raider block access to facility the institute want to protect. Maybe those people turned into raiders after fixing a power armor.
none of the settlers ever bothered until you arrive though, despite super mutants and raiders being a huge threat
The settlers mentality is, if I have nothing to defend myself with, they have no reason to fight me. And it's like that: settlers usually complain about raiders extorting shit from them. That's not true about supermutants though. Bethesda do love supermutants so much, but they never try hard to implement them in a smart way.
Children of Atom live right in the heart of it just fine, despite being starved for supplies
Virgil itself find it strange and ask itself questions about them. It's meant to be a mystery, it's not accidental.
only decent companions are Nick and Curie, both robots
Why do people hate deacon?

Jaxson Price
Jaxson Price

fuck off to reddit, kid

Hunter Price
Hunter Price

Why do you use reddit?
And please, don't respond with some meme answer like "imageboards are no different XD".

Cooper Nguyen
Cooper Nguyen

"Hey guys why is this game so shit?"
thread lists mutiple reasons the game is shit and how discussion goes no where since it was talked to death within the first week
"WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

just like we are free to tell you no and keep at it
/v/ is one person
we

At least make separate posts if you're going to contradict yourself you cum guzzling retard.

Aaron Jenkins
Aaron Jenkins

It took 1 whole year for F4 modders to fix the lever-action shotgun reload
Only two shotgun mod use it
It took 1 whole year for F4 modders to make pump action shotguns
No mod use it
It took 1 whole year for F4 modders to make right-handed bolts for the guns
All of these were basic in F:NV
=BRAVO=
=R=
=A=
=V=
=O=

William Thomas
William Thomas

Fuck

Sebastian Campbell
Sebastian Campbell

Skyrim modding is more active that FO4 modding

But why? It's virtually the exact same thing. Both have unlimited levels meaning character building becomes eventually useless.

The only reasoning I can see is people like Fantasy better than post apocalyptic, and Skyrim runs on more toasters.

Ryan Watson
Ryan Watson

Because they have more epic memes.
At least they did before I fucked thing up by getting a arrow to le knee.
I do BARREL ROLL's now to earn money for bike, but even then I can't FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN.
I just want to go fast, like Sonic sez, but I get wrecked when leaving the starter area because Wolves hunt in packs, arisen.
tbh fam, all games after 1950 have been shit, and we should convert to satanism like jack thompson feared.
At least we have battletoads for a challenge, right? FUCKING GAMESTOP doesn't sell anymore.
LOL

Is that enough of a meme answer? I had a bunch more but couldn't word them well enough into a coherent sentence. I can try though.

Levi Stewart
Levi Stewart

"Hey guys why is this game so shit?"
thread lists mutiple reasons the game is shit and how discussion goes no where
Yes, all well so far.
it was talked to death within the first week
YOU talked it to death. If you already said everything, move on to another thread. Some other people still have an axe to grind with it.
I still do for Spore for instance.

Christopher Perez
Christopher Perez

Loverslab modders said Bethesda sabotaged many thing in the F4 CK. The literally tried to jew enough the modders to prevent surpass they shitty lackluster dlc's.

Caleb Adams
Caleb Adams

Wouldn't surprise me they were so monumentally stupid. Skyrim is still selling well to this day specifically because of mods and these morons are doing everything in their power to chase away the modding community that fixes their shit games.

Wonder what stunt they'll pull with TES VI. I fully expect them to use that game as a platform to launch their walled garden modding service.

Jack Young
Jack Young

trying to discussing this garbage on Holla Forums
Pal.
We have the right to call something shit if we think it to be shit.
It is how we self moderate.
It is pointless to go "WAAAAAH WHY WON'T YOU TALK ABOUT THIS GAME WITH ME", we have the right to give you our opinion, regardless of your feelings.
If you don't like it feel free to complain about it in an autistic fit of rage (it happens all the time, just hop into the pile) or fuck off.
Your call.

Wyatt Gonzalez
Wyatt Gonzalez

They are meant to be subhumans.
I really found it nice how the rogue Minutemen were characterised. You go to that dead ship island, and on top you see a record of a group of minutemen running around and trying to help at first, and after understanding that they don't get shit from it eventually turning raider. The traitor at Quincy did pretty much the same thing, only he joined the Gunners.
Minutemen were pretty much a joke faction for years before, their castle was in fucking ruins and Bunker Hill just switched to paying raiders for protection.
The most unsurprising part of it all is finding out that Preston was such shit as a leader that he was going to eat a bullet until you came.

Ian Garcia
Ian Garcia

player is a synth
Is that why you can't actually fuck anyone?

gimme a cutie

Lincoln Moore
Lincoln Moore

Well we already have Bethesda.net as an answer to nexus and Steam Workshop.

Blake Adams
Blake Adams

Some other people still have an axe to grind with it.

Yeah and they're on reddit talking about the game every single day. They'll even give you all the handjobs you want

Henry Anderson
Henry Anderson

The settlers mentality is, if I have nothing to defend myself with, they have no reason to fight me.
FO4 raiders dismember people and put them on spikes to parade around, which is why Pickman quest falls flat. If you join the nuka-world gangs you can make those yourself. They don't kill out of reason, they are a bunch of chemhead sadists.

Why do people hate deacon?
He is lolsorandom the character. Keeps telling lame jokes during shootouts and has a very lazy sad backstory. DON'T TRUST ANYONE

Ryan Collins
Ryan Collins

More Christmas cake, please.

Adam Morris
Adam Morris

You can fuck the synth bitch singing in the third rail.
In the robot vault-hotel on far harbor you can fuck a robot woman she is a robobrain but still

Bentley Myers
Bentley Myers

18
christmas cake
You wish.

Isaac Taylor
Isaac Taylor

anon just created better plot twist for F4 than bethesda did
I would praise you for making better story like anons discussing SC2 did but really it is not that hard to make better story than modern AAA gaming industry.

sabotaged many thing in the F4 CK
DDproductions told about these when he got on rampage after console modding fiasco. Essentially CK is retarded version of what tools Bethesda uses, simply because stuff made in game by bethesda couldn't have been achieved using their tools.

tried to jew enough the modders to prevent surpass they shitty lackluster dlc's
More like they didn't release CK for a long ass time. It became quite clear that they did it because all the DLC would have been already been made by modders if they did.
If there was one time they tried to jew modders it was bethesda.net.

Lucas Baker
Lucas Baker

Easier modding
Open backstory
More RPG elements in skyrim that make roleplaying easier
No voiced protag

Jose Murphy
Jose Murphy

hmm

Jack Jones
Jack Jones

The BoS is hilarious because many of the companion characters say the leader of the BoS is a madman because he wants to take down the institute and get rid of synths and coursers and Super Mutants and Ferals etc

And yet if you go through with the other factions they are doing the same thing. So they sound like hypocrites.

Thomas Brooks
Thomas Brooks

Bethesda lore past TES:IV is self-conflicting dogshit tbh famalam

Dominic Williams
Dominic Williams

Open backstory
You are the Dragonborn
Or I don't know who you are or what you want but I will find you.
More RPG elements in skyrim that make roleplaying easier
Like what? Speech checks are virtually identical, perk systems are almost identical.

Cameron Butler
Cameron Butler

all this fucking bitching about self moderation, echo chambers, and this place is just like reddit!

If OP wasn't such a massive fucking newfag like nearly half of this fucking thread he would know that this game has been discussed to death a few weeks after release and even more so after each expansion. Generals were a fucking thing. This game has zero depth and nothing else worth discussing that hasn't been already been discussed which is why there are no more generals. And posting your stupid fucking retarded "theories" on here is the most retarded fucking thing you can do besides going to reddit. OP post really does in fact belong in reddit, game theories are fucking retarded and especially when it's about a game released more than a year ago.

don't "sagebomb" the thread if you don't like it

And encouraging these fucking kinds of post will only attract more shit eating retards thinking that's it's okay to post that shit here, just look at the fucking overwatch general. Imageboards are a hot thing with reddit and they'll gladly go wherever they are accepted to get the latest memes for their upvotes. There is nothing of quality to be discussed in bethesda's latest cash grab, you want to talk Fallout? then make a Fallout lore thread. Or at least pretend that you are not a fucking newfag by just going with the "Boston Salt Party" subject.

Chase Rogers
Chase Rogers

BoS wants to not only wipe out all of the synths and synth sympathisers, but also all of the ghouls, non-ferals included, and get settlements under their control for food production.
Minutemen are against it because they don't mind ghouls, but minutemen are pretty chill with anybody but raiders.
Railroad is against them because BoS wants Railroad dead for helping synths.
Institute is against everyone, so no suprise there.
The reason companions say Maxson is fucked up is because he is all battle all the time and no diplomacy at all. His airship arrival was pretty much a declaration of war, you can very easily gain settlements for them by killing the settlers and his tendencies for destruction even prevent him from hoarding tech like he is supposed to. There is no reason to blow up the institute instead of taking their tech.

Bentley Bell
Bentley Bell

you can only fug robits
that doesn't strike you as odd, hmm?

Tyler Jenkins
Tyler Jenkins

You are the Dragonborn
And thats it, its up to you to decide what race you are, what is your backstory, what you did before ariving in skyrim
Thats the point of RPG, to roleplay
Like what?
Choices in quests, at least more than in F4 and quests other than go kill fetch, as basic and dumbed down they were they still were better than this mess and abomination of an RPG known as f4
Also more builds, more towns, more towns etc…

Cameron Rodriguez
Cameron Rodriguez

his game has zero depth and nothing else worth discussing that hasn't been already been discussed which is why there are no more generals
just look at the fucking overwatch general
Weirdly enough I don't see overwatch generals sinking as often, and the game has no fucking story at all. All there is to it is porn.
Thing is, for some reason people thing overwatch is okay because it has anime titties in it despite some of the worst business practices out there.

Tyler White
Tyler White

Easier modding
Not intentional, merely a feature of the engine they're using and legacy tools.

Open backstory
There's a backstory? You can pick your race and a bunch of other variables, but it's not like this has any real impact on your experience throughout the game. One playthrough is going to be exactly like the next, the most diversity you can achieve is through combat, but even that is rendered meaningless because you can become a god at everything if you grind long enough.

More RPG elements in skyrim that make roleplaying easier
There are no RPG elements. Skills and attribute checks are mostly non-existent, and virtually all quests boil down to "pick good or evil choice", most of them not even featuring any sort of choice even.

No voiced protag
FO4 is the first time Bethesda featured that stupid idea, and even their mentally challenged fanbase cried foul.

Bentley Cook
Bentley Cook

You can also fuck most companions. Piper, Curie, Cait, McCready, The power armor guy, Hancock how the fuck, he is a ghoul

Owen Foster
Owen Foster

If OP wasn't such a massive fucking newfag like nearly half of this fucking thread he would know that this game has been discussed to death a few weeks after release and even more so after each expansion.

You think the same 50 guys have been checking the board for games they haven't even played yet every day for 2 years now? How naive can you be?

Overwatch threads are just waifu and shitposting, same as old /vg/ was with certain threads.

Owen Baker
Owen Baker

some of the worst business practices out there
You're gonna have to explain this one.
There's a lot wrong with Overwatch, but at least they charge you 40 bucks for a full game and that's it.

Zachary Lee
Zachary Lee

even their mentally challenged fanbase cried foul.
They didn't, the faggots.

Bentley Stewart
Bentley Stewart

40 bucks
fucking lootboxes with randomised drops
essentially the same cs:go gambling

Aiden Hall
Aiden Hall

that's a new low for whoever wrote that

Parker Reyes
Parker Reyes

Fallout 4 is probably the most fun i've had with a bethesda game but only because i loaded it up with a shit ton of building mods and i spent most of my time making nazi communes with a donald trump companion and lynching minorities.

Christopher Campbell
Christopher Campbell

You need a skill check for being retard
Rock bottom

Mason Martinez
Mason Martinez

Yeah, for some reason FO4 has a lot of nazi mods.

Jose Anderson
Jose Anderson

I like 27. And I really like 29 because that’s 27 when she just wakes up and that’s always sexy. 18’s pretty good, but women are supposed to have long hair.

Easton King
Easton King

I finished pirated FO4

Cooper Richardson
Cooper Richardson

I never get how people can be so bad at character creation, that chick looks ugly as sin. At least I spent a while trying to work out how the character creator worked.

Jacob Lopez
Jacob Lopez

You had retard dialogue choices in FO1, FO2 and NV if you lowered your INT low enough.

Hudson Wood
Hudson Wood

Jews should be punished for psychological abuse. Why do they keep shoving this disgusting creature in our faces? What are they trying to achieve? Are they asking for another shoah in a roundabout way?

Julian Rodriguez
Julian Rodriguez

another

Colton Lee
Colton Lee

WITNESS ME

Jose Rivera
Jose Rivera

All bethesda games have low int dialogue but they forgot to implement normal/high int.

Isaac Jones
Isaac Jones

Except CS:GO is a monthly fee AND skins don't drop unless you shell money for them.
Overwatch has no monthly fee and you can get cosmetics just from playing.
Stop spouting stupid shit.

Wyatt White
Wyatt White

game with dykes
acceptable

Jace Bennett
Jace Bennett

16
WE

Nathan Watson
Nathan Watson

You didn't got my point, do you?

Austin Collins
Austin Collins

You got anything against dykes?
They keep a fuckload of water from flooding cities, produce electric energy AND beavers build the best one's.
Get the fuck out, I bet you like bridges like some hippie faggot.

Dominic Gray
Dominic Gray

fuck bring it on

Isaiah Turner
Isaiah Turner

You got anything against dykes?
Yes, that would be implied in the words I wrote in my post.
They keep a fuckload of water from flooding cities
building your city below sea level
expecting anything else to happen
No one ever said the Low Countries were smart…

Juan Peterson
Juan Peterson

Pogroms against Jews happened throughout human history. Just because the Nazis didn't do it doesn't mean shoahs didn't take place.

They forget all skill checks. I think FO3 had, what, two-three in the whole game?

Yuri is fine, Western dykes are disgusting though, I agree.

You're saying that the "intelligent" choice sounds retarded. I get it.

Grayson Peterson
Grayson Peterson

Fallout 4 is playable, but mediocre. Not nearly as good as New Vegas.

If Bethesda was smart, they'd start showing us different parts of the Fallout world that look entirely different and unique. No more dry deserts and green fog.

How about a place where the forest has overtaken everything and nuclear fallout has mutated the plantlife? How about a frozen, snow-covered land of nuclear winter? How about we go to the west indies and do some post-apocalyptic pirate shit?

Think outside the box. Do things you haven't done before, take some risks.

And for the love of god - BRING BACK SKILLS!

Dylan Green
Dylan Green

They forget all skill checks.

Kevin Sanders
Kevin Sanders

Nations have been driving out Jews for millenia, it just so happens WWII was during the industrial age, during the rise of globalism, and the best one to leverage as political capital for the next 100 years or so.

Benjamin Watson
Benjamin Watson

You stupid super retard!
Read the post! Read it over and over again until it burns into your skull you faggot!

Jaxon Reed
Jaxon Reed

Pogroms against Jews happened throughout human history. Just because the Nazis didn’t do it doesn’t mean shoahs didn't take place.
It does, because the word has a very speciifc definition which has never been fulfilled. You don’t get to magically pretend that words mean whatever you want them to mean.

Henry Howard
Henry Howard

damn

are you retarded

Tyler Collins
Tyler Collins

Fallout 4 is playable
Wrong

Carter Reed
Carter Reed

I think FO3 had, what, two-three in the whole game?

Go be a nigger someplace else.

Jordan Nguyen
Jordan Nguyen

rollin

Alexander Turner
Alexander Turner

rolling

Easton Hernandez
Easton Hernandez

Gamebyro DOES crash an awful lot.

Juan Reed
Juan Reed

I believe those are called "women in comfortable shoes".

Easton Thomas
Easton Thomas

WE ARE ALL SYNTH
THE SYNTH IS US
2deep4u

Christopher Scott
Christopher Scott

You son is Nick Valentine brother, kill him or nuke nuka world

Luis Powell
Luis Powell

Well unlike Louisiana or New York the low countries are smart enough to fund critical infrastructure so there is no risk of flooding. Unlike earthquakes or volcanoes sea levels are predictable.

Cooper Lopez
Cooper Lopez

Holy shit this sounds like fun actually.

Totally fair. The writing in this game sucks and feels like they don't really respect the source material. You are basically Superman (ubermensch) of the commonwealth, so much so that it breaks immersion. In my first character I am both the general of the Minutemen (and Preston even admits the title is empty for the player as it is not earned and merely handed over, what fucking fun is that?) AND a knight in the BoS, which also was simply handed to the player without much in the way of earning it. Cheap rewards that should have been meaningful.

Also bullshit that power armor is ALSO simply handed to the player like 30 minutes into the main story (if even that long). No earning it, you don't even need power armor training anymore.

FO3 and FO4 deserve some, but not all, of the hate. The writing sucks ass though, I mean Jesus, the end of FO3 with Fawkes as a companion:
I can't go into this water purification system, it will kill me. Hey, I just happen to have a super mutant companion, sweet! Hey man, would you mind?
Dude, no, I don't want to take that from you.
Fuck you too, Fawkes.

There's no morality, only hint of your actions even having the slightest effect is the notification that'll pop up on your screen saying " " disliked this.
Yeah, fuck that noise. Bethesda gimped the RPG elements, per usual.

I would have loved a more focused settlement building experience, and having themed settlements based on factions would be awesome.

Michael Morris
Michael Morris

Somebody say Shaun?

Juan Scott
Juan Scott

rolling

Christian Perez
Christian Perez

For fuck sake buddy, they put the "GRENADE KEY" on the same button as the "MELLEE KEY".

that is a great feature in survival mode. I really enjoy trying to bayonet an enemy only to throw a Molotov and have to reload back at country crossing.

Eli Martin
Eli Martin

I am a prince

Brandon Jenkins
Brandon Jenkins

Get

Eli Morgan
Eli Morgan

I had a pretty good time with FO4. I bet Holla Forums would like it better if Bethesda didn't take over the franchise after 1&2 and totally fuck up the writing after that. It's a great setting. I think FO3 and 4 would go over better here if they weren't named Fallout.

Ryder Hall
Ryder Hall

But that's not true. Maybe it was a bug in an early version, but they took it out pretty quick.

Jonathan Jenkins
Jonathan Jenkins

Op you're stupid and your thread is shit.

You're still alive because Kellogg's cornflakes wanted you alive in case Shaun didn't work out and everyone else was superfluous to the institute.
DiMA is an idiot who thinks everyone is a synth Which can actually be easily told as Synths have abnormal rad resistance. It was probably put there because the Synth thing was better then anything Beshitda though of.
Not particularly. If Bethesda was any good at anything other then Modding tools, the Prologue would have been a sham and you can't reach the vault in time. You'd create some rando already in a Cyro tube. As it is, it hampers roleplay significantly as you can either be Military Man or Lawyer Girl, both who are looking for their only child.
Fuck If I know why, the Father never explains shit. Honestly I think it's just the kid you first meet breaking into the Institute the Father used for his prank montage.
Also if Shaun did want to have one big happy family by way of Synths, why only make one parent, stick him where his corpse use to be, and hope he figures out how to get to your super secret nerd kingdom. Hell, I just figured out an alternative story that works out way better.

The Father is some Pre-war baby remaking the life he never had by sticking synths in a suburb that has everything Ala Tranquility Lane minus the german loli sadits. But one day something fucks up and everyone else "Dies" (have it be everyone shuts down for maintenance but you don't get the shut down signal) and you have to escape via an access maintenance tunnel. From there you have to find a way to get out of the institute at which point you're thrust into the hellscape that the game normally is (and is worried about in the simulation). Then on you have to deal with being hunted by the Institute (rather then them showing up half way through), discrimination against synths where you either prove you're good for some strained trust, or murder hobo everyone.

The paths would branch out to first finding out you're really a synth by visiting Vault 111 and finding you and your wife's corpse, which could lead you to finding Kellogg, who in turn causes you to get back into the institute to confront the Father, who'd in turn leave control of the institute to you since he's dying and could act as the Independent end. Could have no indication to go the Vault 111 either and have it be a secret ending.
Brotherhood would be about capturing the institute and either destroying it or convincing the Elder to keep it for Brotherhood research and development and you get made an honorary knight once it's all said and done.
Railroad would involve getting out of the commonwealth ala Harkness and others or staying to help out.
Minutemen would be the one all about uniting the world and destroying the institute.
Or hell have the become a Raider and tear everything the fuck down option.

But all of that would take clever writing, and not just jerking off the player. Thanks for triggering my autism into writing way a better game then a professional team OP, you asshole.

Luis Ward
Luis Ward

rollin
Fallout 4 is not true Fallout, it's more like action spinoff.
Dem deathclaws, though

Jeremiah Carter
Jeremiah Carter

I agree with you somewhat. There's a lot of autists here who hate it when you talk about any games they don't like, and Fallout is just one of the more obvious examples. That said, has a point. Strict community self-regulation is important to keep it from going to shit, but often Holla Forums goes overboard with it. There's a decent sized group here that doesn't even play video games, they just come here to bitch about them

Andrew Robinson
Andrew Robinson

Fallout 4 is not true Fallout, it's more like action spinoff.
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

There are always going to be contrarians who hate whatever. I've grown to accept it. I just wish they didn't just shitpost. However, as it's been said before, Holla Forums tends to have decent enough tastes and can properly judge a game for what it is most of the time. The overreaction is probably due to stupid fucks still continuing to shit up the place, even after being told they're retarded. And Autism. However Fo4 is genuinly shit and the only things it has going for it is some stolen mod concepts and it being decently stable.

Aaron Hall
Aaron Hall

(checked)
FO4 was a pretty good action game. Not a good RPG though.

Michael Davis
Michael Davis

a pretty good action game
HAH

Asher Parker
Asher Parker

You can't tell me it's not *fun* to march around in power armor and a melee weapon fucking up ferals.

I wish they didn't make the super sledge such a bitch weapon, though. I really wanted a huge bulky weapon that went with the bulky armor, instead it was practically a polearm.

Owen Gomez
Owen Gomez

A wizard did it

Thomas Rodriguez
Thomas Rodriguez

It makes me happy whenever I see Ore no Imouto stuff here so thank you user

Jace Scott
Jace Scott

Not really. The game's neither action or rpg, you cant make your own character and the action is so sparse, short (unless a bullet sponge appears) and easy it's not really good at that either

Christian Jones
Christian Jones

normally i actually agree with this sentiment but fallout 4 is fucking trash. if you like it you're stupid, have shitty taste, and deserve to be memed on. sorry squiddo

Jason Flores
Jason Flores

It's not fun because enemies are fucking braindead, combat is mediocre as all hell (especially in melee), and power armor is just a novelty that doesn't introduce anything worthwhile to the gameplay through its implementation.

Gabriel Roberts
Gabriel Roberts

Too late people are talking about how crap the game is now AHAHAH I WIN FUCKERS

Daniel Evans
Daniel Evans

Not really, while the gun play is much improved and the action key (why Grenade and melee are tied to the same button we'll never know, probably controllers) everything seems to get in the way of fun. The Power Armor chews through Fusion cores for no reason other then to balance them for early game and cripple the at late game.
Weapons are way too weak against everyone, even upgrading the damage perks. Which also bites into the fun aspect as nothing has ever done Action Adventure RPG well outside of the RPG aspect being getting utility items (ala Zelda or Darksiders 1). And upgrading, while suppose to be a deep system boils down to trade damage or odd utility like scope for weight.
There's the radiant quests that never fucking end and bog you down until you learn to ignore them and their fucking pittance.
And even ignoring all of that shit which is hard or modded out, you have to constantly manage inventory so you can build shit whether it's guns or a pretty base. It seemingly does everything in it's power to make the game less fun, which is damn ironic considering Bethshitsda always masturbates to the idea of focusing on the player character.

Jaxon Powell
Jaxon Powell

I'm not trying to make the point it's a great game or anything like that, just that it's good for some mindless fun. As a shooter, I enjoy it more than most.

Yeah the AI blows, except when they're throwing molotovs and grenades at you, then they're fucking psychic. Melee combat can be kinda dull in first person, but if you play it in third person then it becomes more fun and feels more like an action game than a failed RPG. Plus there are special melee animations that you can only see in third person for some retarded reason. As for power armor, it adds some stuff that's fun for rip and tear gameplay. Increased defense is a big one, but also the ability to fall any distance and land in the middle of your enemies is great, like jumping off a tall building or an above-ground interstate onto a patrol. And the rad resistance is handy too. I should mention that I liked the game a lot better when they added a proper survival mode. The need for food, water and sleep was nice, but the biggest improvement was in combat. Before, easy difficulties were piss easy and hard ones just made every enemy into a bullet sponge. The new survival makes combat lethal for you and your enemies, though you still run into the occasional annoying bullet sponge.

Dylan Martinez
Dylan Martinez

in all fairness, there is an AI mod that makes the enemies actually genuinely smart in that if there's just one he'll do his best to suppress you and get to safety, and if there's more than one they'll work together to flank you, flush you out with grenades etc, and if i remember correctly the guy who made it only had to change like one line of code. let that sink in: the developers were either that close to genuinely good AI, or intentionally hamstrung it for the retard audience

Joshua Fisher
Joshua Fisher

I never had a problem with fusion cores and I wore power armor nonstop from the moment I got it, except when upgrading it or sleeping. The best way to conserve them is to just not sprint unless it's necessary in combat, because that drains them like nothing else.

Weak weapons are fucking annoying, but the updated survival mode did a lot to fix that. It multiples the damage of all weapons, so they feel proper. A headshot will actually kill a raider, instead of needing to put three magazines into their skill before they notice.

I liked the upgrade system personally, but I really enjoy the "survival" experience of having to scavenge for things to survive and eventually thrive. Though granted, that experience doesn't last very long.

Radiant quests are bullshit after a pointbut I never bothered with those anyway., besides doing some for the Brotherhood and those were alright. Minutemen are fags.

And I know it's a matter of taste, but I like inventory management. I don't think I should be able to carry 500 pounds of bullshit at all times, and I like building a hideout to stash things, and deciding on a loadout (what weapons I'm bringing, how much ammo I need, how much food and water I'll need, etc) before heading out on a mission. But I get that some people want a more traditional experience where you can just carry all your weapons and ammo and everything else.

Gavin Campbell
Gavin Campbell

The only good thing of this thread, Roolleroo

Caleb Ross
Caleb Ross

At least you cant backtrack from a melee enemy hitting them while they attack the spot you were at 5 seconds earlier, it took them since oblivion to make charge animations

not only
mods will fix it
but if what you say it's true, that's a shameless downgrade to reduce the difficulty

Thomas Scott
Thomas Scott

As a shooter, I enjoy it more than most
melee is made more fun because of animations with no real impact on gameplay that's even worse than BamHam combat
the only worthwhile changes to power armor are some minor stat changes
survival shit that only boils down to managing a few meters is fun
You're very easily entertained.
Play a good action game like DMC3 or a good shooter like fucking Doom then tell me FO4 even comes close.

Cooper Richardson
Cooper Richardson

I haven't played DMC since 2, so you've got me there, but I do like FO4 more than DOOM. DOOM is definitely a better shooter, but I like the other aspects of it in FO4, the "meter managing" ones. Keeping your health up is also meter managing, user, even if they don't put a meter in the UI. I'm gonna say again though that the power armor does more than minor stat changes though, it's honestly my favorite implementation of power armor in any Fallout game.

Cooper Gray
Cooper Gray

Number one is obvious choice for men with patrician taste.

Liam Howard
Liam Howard

i think i threw up a little in my mouth

Lincoln Richardson
Lincoln Richardson

intentionally hamstrung it for the retard audience
You seem to forget that this wasn't meant to be a game, so much as Babies first RPG. When you think of it like that it starts making a lot more sense. No numbers, black and white morality, extreme hand holding. Hell it's simpler then some kids games even.

The problem with PA is that it's needless busy work for no reason that actively fucks with the lore. Early prototype example were worked out to run dry after 100 years of extraneous activity but that was fixed for latter models. The T-51 and Enclave both had on board reactors that would power them indefinitely more or less. And the T-60 even being a thing and Enclave PA being Pre-war are both absolutely Haram. Plus it's not like Bethesda didn't know better as NV's hardcore mode is trivialized by swimming in required resources. And not having a sprint is agonizing even if the world is laughably small..

Fallout and Stalker get pointlessly compared all the time, no reason to justify it by needing to play on the hardest difficulty to do damage. Survival mode also just adds in more tedium so it's not really worth it, especially when it can be modded to just do that extra damage.

All the "survival" stuff is neat at first but there's no real way to circumvent it late game so it's just tedious bullshit you NEED to do.

At least you recognize radiants as the piece of crap they are. At least you can decide to ignore Preston and just head to Diamond City once you know where it is.

I like inventory management too, but for the purposes of being able to horde as much vendor trash as I please. The issue that arises Vendor trash is expanded to everything and you just constantly get bogged down with shit that you have to go through and figure out what you need. and it bogs. Doesn't help there's no way to really increase your carry weight either.

It all adds up to bog down and detract from fun. Far Harbor was as close as they came to fixing it due the radiation everywhere and there not being places you need to spruce up yourself besides a home or two you can get.

Thomas Ward
Thomas Ward

None of bethesda fallout have been create-your-MC rpgs. You have to put yourself in the character's shoes, otherwise some part of the story are just silly. I mean, few players would put the fev in the purifier, but if you look at things as a stranded and terrified teenager that is still attached to and really misses the vault, then killing all muties to make your house and family safer is a reasonable option.
In FO4 it's the same, you have to put yourself in the shoes of a desperate and broken father. A voiced character makes it easier.

Jacob Garcia
Jacob Garcia

Even the completely predictable "No John, You Are The Synths" plot would have been better than the pile of shit we actually got.

Can Todd get over his fucking daddy issues and make a game whose plot doesn't revolve around some dysfunctional father/son relationship caused by an absent father figure for once?

rollan

Daniel Wilson
Daniel Wilson

Rollin

Adrian Hughes
Adrian Hughes

tfw when bumplimit in a shitty thread
feels good

Lucas Sanders
Lucas Sanders

Come on 65

Chase Watson
Chase Watson

Of all the lore rape in fallout 4, this one I think isn't any sort of issue.

We have the word of one bitch in California that all the cats have been hunted down since she was a kid. She's probably 18-40 years old. So if she had a cat as a kid, that means cats survived the bombs, survived FEV, and survived 40-60 years past the events of Fallout 1. In Central California speciifically, or at least the area immediately at and around The Den.

I don't think it's all that unlikely that they survived in other parts of the US, It's a big fucking country, and the commonwealth certainly looks like an easier place for a cat to survive in the wild.

Jeremiah Wilson
Jeremiah Wilson

Weak weapons are fucking annoying, but the updated survival mode did a lot to fix that. It multiples the damage of all weapons, so they feel proper. A headshot will actually kill a raider, instead of needing to put three magazines into their skill before they notice.

I don't know why people say this. It's patently untrue. Survival mode's damage is 4x damage to player, 0.75x damage to enemies. With an "adrenaline" perk for consecutive kills that will boost the player's damage all they way up to a whopping 1.25x damage at max.

Most of the time, your weapons will be weaker than playing on normal difficulty. It's 50% less spongy than playing on the old survival or current "Very Hard" difficulty, but it's every bit as spongy as playing on "hard".

Jace Lewis
Jace Lewis

There isn't any lore rape in FO4. Trust me, I looked for it. The setting is weak around supermutants like FO3, but that's it.

Zachary Gonzalez
Zachary Gonzalez

Survival mode's damage is 4x damage to player, 0.75x damage to enemies.
No. I read that around the internet too, when I got frustrated with the triggermen. Triggermen had boosted DR. But if you check with console or mods, player deals x1,75 and enemies deals x2 or something like that. I got to level 40 and I have never met bullet sponges, with the exceptions of behemot, deathclaw, mirelurk queen and bosses. And usualy the game gives you heavy weapons to deal with them. You gotta upgrade armor and weapons. That means also upgrading from laser to plasma, for example.

Jeremiah Myers
Jeremiah Myers

There isn't any lore rape in FO4. Trust me, I looked for it.

Jacob Fisher
Jacob Fisher

Look up my posts, I already discussed some points.

Easton Walker
Easton Walker

Don't worry, i just went after your high ball. A joke man!

Michael Clark
Michael Clark

Rolling

Jayden Young
Jayden Young

Also if Shaun did want to have one big happy family by way of Synths, why only make one parent, stick him where his corpse use to be, and hope he figures out how to get to your super secret nerd kingdom.

Because you'd run into Kellogg and he, along with the other Institute scientists that were there, confirm they were killed.

Kayden Richardson
Kayden Richardson

Let me be honest - you don't get to define who gets to play what. Get back to the orwellian shitole you came from, I don't want anyone or anything being a gatekeeper and judge for my escapist entertianment.

The only good Yandere is a dead yandere.

And Holla Forums is not your little empire to run as you want.

I don't care how much you think a game sucks (and F4 does suck, so what?) or a dev sucks or how tired YOU are talking about it. No one is forcing you. You're free to ignore threads you don't like or aren't interested in, like the rest of the civilized society.
But nooo.. you want to build your own little echo-chamber. Well fuck you. It's always the same. It's always some fuck going on about "standards" and "quality" and "it's good for you!" and puttining more and more restrictions into what can be said, when and how it can be said…so only your shit-ass taste can be discussed. Fuck your forceful elitism. Fuck your tastes.

Go ride a rusty, flaming halberd, you prolapsed-anus king of faggots.

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