Was he the most socialist president in history...

Tell me you're not one of the muh raza types

Cheka'd

If we are resurrecting anyone, let's bring back Bakunin

Roosevelt (Teddy) is most socialist.

But don't you see, ethno-nationalism is OK when Brown people do it.

He killed more Americans than anyone else in history, so that alone makes him one of our greatest heroes.

he was maximum porky, giving a few concessions to prevent revolution

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Dude was historical materialism in action. He ended slavery and planned to industrialize the South. He actually supported strikes, which is something you will rarely find another American president doing.

“I am glad to see that a system of labor prevails in New England Under which laborers can strike when they want to, where they are not obliged to labor whether you pay them or not. I like a system which lets a man quit when he wants to, and wish it might prevail everywhere.”

One might say that he was America's Stalin.

Tankies pls

I'd want reanimated Stirner to raw me into oblivion

GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME COMRADE

Source for that quote about striking?

Because if so then Booth truly is the main reason we are not living under socialism

It was in response to the Massachusetts Shoemakers Strike of 1860. I got it from an AFL-CIO article. Mind the grammatical errors there.

massaflcio.org/1860-showmakers-strike-lynn

Just read Marx's letter to Lincoln
He is the most based President in our history ever

More info: apparently the quote was taken from a speech given in Hartford, CT on March 5.

Here is another quote by Lincoln, this time from a discussion of tarriffs in December first of 1847.

"And, inasmuch [as] most good things are produced by labour, it follows that [all] such things of right belong to those whose labour has produced them. But it has so happened in all ages of the world, that some have laboured, and others have, without labour, enjoyed a large proportion of the fruits. This is wrong, and should not continue. To [secure] to each labourer the whole product of his labour, or as nearly as possible, is a most worthy object of any good government."

Lincoln was ultimately a capitalist, but dude got bit hard by the socialist bug.

He was the first Jimmy dore of power level growth

Fuck… this is making me want to cry. We could actually have socialism right now if Abe Lincoln had been able to continue his plans… wtf I love Honest Abe now

I tear up everytime I read this:

marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm

He wasn't a socialist. He was trying to convince northerners that wage labor was the future thereby and also to refute the arguments put forward by slaveowners that wage labor was immoral and/or degrading.

Quit being a cuck to right-wing history. The North already had wage-labor and it was very normalized this was true even in the south for folks who weren't farmers, petit-bourgeoise or slave-owners He might not have been a socialist but he plainly supported the right to strike and organize and thought labor deserved more respect then capital. And all that makes a certain amount of sense as all but the most staunch right/center of the abolitionist movement recognized "wage slavery" in the sense that you couldn't really consent to a contract with an employer if your alternative was starvation. Karl Marx wrote for the republican party paper for god's sake! There's no way his critique of capital-labor relations didn't influence him in some way.

It's possible to be pro-union and pro-capitalist, hell even Adam Smith could be put in that category, the important fact is that he was progressive for his time, and while not a socialist by Marxist standards could definitely have been considered one by the standards of 19th century utopian socialism.

Smith was a "socialist firebrand" in his own right

So you can say Booth pretty much fucked us

But it is.
Though the anticapitalist character of the slaveowners was much the same as the monarchist character of Tsarist Russia's bourgeoisie. The theory of permanent revolution is perhaps the most important part of understanding the American political situation throughout history

You should read about his views on Blacks before becoming President.

allende or castro, or both

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/r/socialism has been telling me otherwise though

Don't forget:

Fuck Booth.

Was he actually, though? I'd always heard that he was the consumate politician and just told whichever crowd he was speaking to what they wanted to hear, i.e. if he was talking to white Northerners he'd say that once the war was finished blacks would be repatriated, but if he was speaking to free black Northerners he'd assure them that they and other blacks would enjoy the same rights as white Americans did

youtube.com/watch?v=ZZy6SDrdyOM

A major impetus for racial strife was precisely this competitive, adversarial relationship between black and white labor. It was no less a device of class rule in those days than it is now. "Blame whites," "equal representation," pro-immigration etc. are such a mainstay of progressive politics today, and their reverses in conservative politics, that it's sobering to think what we'd have accomplished if we could have sidestepped this whole shitshow.

I should point out that Frederick Douglass was something of a "pre-Marx Marxist" in his narrative. He wrote at length about northern labor and drew the obvious analogy in a natural way, examined racist sentiments frankly/materialistically, etc. He looked at a mode of production's "alienation" in a strikingly human way throughout.
I've actually heard him called an "Uncle Tom" for not toeing today's progressive line.

Perhaps, but given the fact that he freely expressed a possibility of shipping all the African slaves out of the country gives me pause.

He probably realized it was foolish and the country will be better off given the strife occurring when certain personal interests (slave and cotton field owners) came into conflict.