So, Holla Forums, help me out a little, i started up Tales of Zestiria, and i actually quite like it, might even manage to complete, but here's a thing, i don't know what other good jrpgs out there for PC i can get, with nice narrative to relax, grind, listen to interesting dialogues and so on.
Is FF13 worth it? Is Neptunia series good? What other games exist?
Carson Murphy
Get some taste faggot.
Carson Russell
But its fine! There's those invisible seraph people, a girl who character saves, a hero's close friend who does magic and shit. Its comfy.
Isaac Taylor
Wew lad.
Cameron Smith
You want to say its all shit?
Liam Reyes
No. It's nothing spectacular, but it's okay. But you kinda need a high tolerance for cute girls doing cute things. Breath of Fire 3. If you haven't played it you're in for a treat. And if you choose not to play it, you're a faggot.
John Wood
Is it normal to start right from the third chapter? I think the main hero is the same in all four.
Elijah Powell
No, FF stopped being good in the 90s No, they're awful budget games. Girls are cute though. Google this shit, there's a billion.
Legend of Heroes, Breath of Fire, Shin Megami Tensei, Tales of up to and including Vesperia, FF in the 90s, Growlanser, Arc the Lad, Lufia, Earthbound, Mana series, Altier series, Wild Arms series, etc etc etc
God damn you're an idiot
Leo Thomas
Tales of Berseria is coming out soon, it's Zestiria again with a different story and some of the kinks worked out with the new engine they started using with Zesteria.
Valkyria Chronicles is a great stratagy JRPG, and a great port in general for the PC, it's worth getting for sure.
Chase Green
He's asking specifically for games that are on the PC you cunt blot.
Joseph Gray
It's just the MC in BoF games all have the same name and look really similar. The games are pretty separated from each other story-wise. There are some references, but nothing major. 3 happens way the fuck after 1 and 2.
Thomas Green
You can play all of them on PC you nitwit.
John Thomas
Only with emulators, which I doubt was what he meant.
Luke Richardson
Well if he's not using emulators at all he needs get off this board.
Michael Rivera
Are we still pretending japan makes good games?
Colton Sanders
Nobody said he isn't, but all of the games he's expressed interest in playing are modern JRPGs you wouldn't be able to emulate on the majority of systems, or at all, so if you actually read between the lines it's obvious he's not looking for suggestions of decades old games to emulate, he's looking for games that are recent and have decent PC ports.
Jack Bennett
Play Half Minute Hero and One Way Heroics OP
Half Minute Hero: You play as a hero who aims to defeat the evil overlord in 1 minute. The game makes fun of generic JRPG and is in fact a weird kind of puzzle game.
One Way Heroics: You need to keep going right or the darkness or whatever it is is eating the world. As you play things aren't simply just about "defeat the demon king, save the world". It's a roguelike that you have to achieve certain conditions to unlock more classes/stories
Owen Anderson
tl;dr you're wrong and stop sticking up for other people you cuck
remember when pic related was a great bait thread on 4chan
Jacob Smith
If you're looking for JRPGs with native PC versions (as opposed to just playing whatever via emulation), you might be hard pressed to find all that much. While there's been a bit more of an effort recently, traditionally there has been much more of a console and handheld focus for them, to the point that beyond Falcom being a rather PC friendly JRPG dev and Square doing a few native PC ports during fifth gen, it used to be pretty rare to see ones from other companies, though there were still the occasional ones like Grandia II and Breath of Fire IV for whatever reasons. Really, if you're just going to limit yourself to native PC ones, you're likely to not be able to experience that big a variety of them compared to those that either have the games and systems themselves (modded systems able to run digitally downloaded/ripped games are also a possibility), or emulating/flash carting them.
As for Neptunia, I can't say if they'e good as it's not a series I've played myself, but I do know that while Rebirth Volume 1 is fine on the translation end, Rebirth 2 and 3 were memed the fuck up as IFI hired NISA's Nick Doerr to edit them (NISA having had the rights prior to IF cutting them out and starting their own western branch, IFI). They have since seen retranslation efforts by anons to remove Doerr.
On that note, are you just getting into JRPGs? If so, I can dump some copypasta I've made on the subject.
John Robinson
I'm not sticking up for anyone, I'm being someone with basic reading comprehension.
Ethan Smith
This is bait, right?
Tyler James
OP probably just started getting into JRPG
John Morris
OP go Play Wild ARMS 2, Valkyrie Profile and Xenogears.
Brandon Bailey
Which jrpg has the best semen demons?
Nolan Mitchell
As a big fan of Wild Arms, I'd recommend he play the second one after the first. Both are pretty damn good if you ask me, however after the refinements to combat and graphics WA2 made, it might be a bit hard for some people to go back to WA 1 PS1. But yeah, always good to see more Wild Arms love. Fuck Sony for opting to reboot the series as mobile shit.
Juan Butler
wew laddy. That's likely the worst Tales game you can possibly play.
Legend of Legaia is a good PS1 vidcon that you should play. Most JRPG's don't need native PC ports, since emulators exist. Legend of Dragoon is pretty good as well.
Wyatt Turner
Tales of the Tempest says hello. Just saying.
Jackson Allen
Buy a Vita goddamnit.
Julian Hill
This, the Vita is a weeb machine
Cameron Miller
Growlanser, without a doubt.
Connor Miller
All those chicks have exactly the same face, just different hair color.
Ethan Jones
Didn't the arbitrarily declare that one doesn't count?
Matthew Torres
It's as most have said here. Your best bet is emulation or a Vita. A used Vita can go for 100+ on ebay and aren't hard to find.
A visual novel can provide all of this and with better quality. For JRPGs, you never even need to grind the main quest/story unless it's a few specific games or unless you're terrible at video games. A game like Kamidori Alchemy Meister can give you a easy to follow narrative, comfy, lewds, and tons of grind while still being fun.
If it must be a JRPG though then I recommend Tales of Eternia. If you want to grind, there's Granblue Fantasy which can be played on PC. If you don't mind Tactical RPGs there's always the Disgaea series in which the PSP version of 1 and 2 are easy to emulate. If you want a RPG with puzzles there's Lufia 2. Dragon Quest V for "muh feels" and Dragon Quest III if you want a RPG that doesn't hold your hand and lets you actually explore.
Granblue Fantasy. Ever girl is made from the ground up to be doujin fapbait.
Levi Carter
OP, I also have questionable taste like yourself (I liked the brief bit of Zestiria I played but dropped it due to the shit frame-rate on PC) and I would recommend these games:
Reccetear's the odd one out but it's funny and comfy and will go dirt cheap in the Xmas sale next week if paying for games is your thing.
David Ramirez
Almost every falcom game has a drop dead gorgeous ara for a shopkeeper or some other type of clerk position. It's not just Ys VIII.
This girls from Urushihara are breathtaking. They mostly have sameface tho.
Lincoln Carter
VLR did
Gabriel Fisher
Standalone
Parker Sullivan
Well, shortly after, Namco decided to split the series into "mothership" and "escort" titles, with Tempest being tossed into Escort status as if to keep it away from main series titles. Granted, escort status should not equate to meaning "bad," as I've heard Radiant Mythology 3 and NDX are quite enjoyable (if you know moon), but it's telling that they seemed to have an "oh shit" moment when that game was really poorly received. Even Absolute Zero, who fully translated it as an April Fools joke, said to only play it if you want to see both Tales at its worst, and what once passed as acceptable quality for what was intended as a main series title.
Jace Myers
But Vulkan performs worse than DX11.
Lucas Wood
No. I probably played 200 hours in the first year when it was still kinda novel and kinda fun. But now it's just tired and the only really active/interesting servers are rp servers and I'm not into that.
that was quite a surprise
but yeah, they had the advantage of watching DayZ fail and the insight to say "Lets not do what they're doing"
Joseph Sullivan
what's vlr?
James Garcia
My brother!
Ethan White
So anyone else pissed off that all those years of promising new wild arms content lead to mobile garbage? I know I and are. Fuck current year sony
Angel Collins
I swear, it's like Sony thinks various IPs they've been sitting on aren't worthy of being on their own consoles or handhelds anymore, but still sense enough profit to dig up their corpses for easy mobile bucks. I suppose the one plus might be more new artwork for both, but I still wish it didn't have to be this way.
As the guy that made those Wild Arms images, I'm not even sure if I ought to bother with adding Mobile Arms to them when it comes out, or leave it as an unmentionable.
Jonathan Richardson
So are you the user who constanly shills wild arms when he gets the chance? Because I have to thank you. Never would have gotten into the series if you never pointed me in the right direction.
Also I feel like for sake of profesionalism you should be inclined to add whatever game sony churns out regardless whether it is a spit in the face to the fans or not and just add a little spiteful comment in it somewhere
Isaac Cooper
Sony is awful with this. They can IPs all the time and are like LOL WAT when asked about them. Lots of devs left to make cellphone indie games because they have a great incompetence than Sega. At least 3 Jrpgs franchises and devs connected to them were flushed because Sony more and more wanted the millenial market.
Blake Campbell
Yeah, I probably am, though I wouldn't say every "chance I get"; more of "whatever chance is appropriate."
I'll give it some thought, but as things are there, I'm a bit locked on space to add more (I was initially under the impression they'd leave the series to it's rest, meaning the only updates needed would be for digital rereleases, like Wild Arms 3 PSN). Part of the issue I suppose with using an existing image as a background and not making a background from scratch that I can properly expand if need be, like .
Checked Yeah, I know they're awful about abandoning IPs after a generation, if not a single game or two. Actually surprises me a bit that Wild Arms survived two whole generations, a bit into a third one before Sony apparently blocked Media.Vision from making more beyond XF (Sony being the rights holder). Still, I had thought that since Sony themselves owned the series, it might be safe from mobile; after all, if they decided to make a new game, wouldn't they have wanted to market it as exclusive to their own systems, being their franchise and all (plus, given Wild Arms has never been absurdly popular, would there even be that much a mobile market for it)? I suppose I guessed wrong on that one.
Adam Evans
Breath of Fire fan, here; misery loves company.
Owen Edwards
Kinda like how Final Fantasy started at 7?
Jeremiah Morgan
Indeed. I think Breath of Fire, Valkyrie Profile, Arc the Lad, and Wild Arms fans all have reason to be angry, since all those series have been sent to mobile hell (Star Ocean as well, but given how hit or miss that series seems to have been with anons, I've seen some claim it's less of a loss).
Parker Gomez
Dragon Quarter was titled "Breath of Fire V" in Japan, they simply dropped the number entirely for the western release.
Anthony White
Last Remnant Septerra Core and Anachronox are faux jrpgs and not really old skool. I think almost every Final Fantasy is on Steam right now if you're interested. Type 0 might be up your alley.
Anthony Wood
I certainly hope you mean Type-0 emulated with the fan translation, and not the officially releases western version.
Eli Gray
whichever he wants to bother with i'm not his baby sitter fam
Leo Hall
She needs to go see a doctor, that doesn't look healthy.
Jaxson Smith
Her skin? That's a birth defect. She can't do anything about it.
Jason Morales
That's because the game falls apart around the time Alisha leaves and it's shitty replacement comes in
Jack Williams
Is Tales of Zestiria censored? Definite pirate if so.
Carter Brooks
Neptunia is better than FF13 and Zestiria, but with the bar set that low there's no surprise there.
Nicholas Morales
not sure about that anything is better than the miserable experience that is XIII, that's certain
Nicholas Rivera
I can actually finish nep games, Zestiria was boring and empty. I couldn't get past the first few hours.
Tyler Perez
I don't think so, at least from what I heard of it (to be fair, I haven't given Zestiria a go just yet). Tales usually gets away with more stuff due to being rated T, instead of Namco trying to press for an E-rating, which makes the censorship in Berseria all the more bizarre, considering Xillia 2 had a similar impalement (or what looked a lot like it) that make it west intact just fine, even at T. Granted, the kid didn't die that time, but still.
Logan Williams
Emulate Suikoden 1 and 2, OP.
Tyler Murphy
Oh boy, most people hate Zestiria and i can't blame them: Pacing is terrible, Story is a mess, the Alisha shit, Combat and Camera issues. but i still liked, the OST is quite great and i liked most characters with the exception of Rose who i deeply hate.
No, not only the game itself is shit but so is the port, you have to set to use 1 core only for it to run "properly".
No, it's low budget recycled trash that sell well because of Moe shit, unless you like little anime girls trying to be funny give this a pass.
there are some but PC is very lacking in the JRPG department, i recommend: the closest of what you want is Trails in the Sky First and Second Chapter are good( i expected a lot more but it's my fault for falling for Falcom Threads hype), old FF titles (VI, VII, VIII and IX.), AKIBA TRIP is quite fun but it's more of a action/RPG, Tales of Symphonia, The Last Remnant( use a guide for this one, grind is not recommended early on) and Dragon's Dogma( action/RPG). 2017 more JRPG will be released on PC like Tales of Berseria that fix most of Zestiria mistakes and some others. i recommend grabbing a emulador like PPSSPP for JRPG, the PSP library is far better for JRPGs than PC.
Isaiah Ross
It varies from bad to tolerable t. /nep/
Jason Perry
it also has the best tales waifu in the series.
Josiah Robinson
Mikleo is the best character in Zestiria, definitely one of my favorites in the series. Mikleo that is, ToZ fucking sucks. FF13 is shit, Crisis Core Final Fantasy 7 is a better version of Lightning Returns. Not perfect though. CRISIS CORE REMAKE/REMASTER THAT FIXES LOTS OF THE GAME'S PROBLEMS WHEN Neptunia is one of the worst series I ever played, and it's proof that lesbians are ruining video games. Remove yuri, heterosexuality strong,
Anyway, I think Pier Solar was a decent game, but I never played it. I have a copy just sitting around, I gotta get around to it. Also, if you're open to emulation, try Skies of Arcadia Legends.
Landon Miller
Neptunia is a good JRPG in the same way Dynasty Warriors is a good beatemup. its nothing spectacular, its nothing deep, but it can be fun and has alot of content. i can understand not enjoying the content, but it appeals to some.
Atlier sophie is a decent JRPG.
pier solar is good. would be better if it didnt have so much cryptic bullshit… but alot of older RPGs have that.
Christian Cook
Get a cheaper ps3 and play Trails of Cold Steel I & II
William Bailey
Whoa! That's a weebshit game if I ever saw one
Jaxon James
Ignore this faggot.
Jeremiah Robinson
Also, meant to include it in that other post earlier, but your thanks is appreciated. Glad to know that the time and effort spent on making that stuff is paying off, both for getting more people into a good series, and giving me more anons to potentially discuss it with. Which one are you on, if you're still playing them, anyhow?
Tyler Cruz
Wasn't that big on Suikoden 1 tbh. 2 was far better.
Michael Sanders
Reference filled with a pisspoor combat system and slowdown on some consoles despite being a fucking RPGMaker game. Really wouldn't recommend it.
Easton Lee
Holy fuck I feel scammed.
Jayden Powell
I couldn't play Zestria only because the MC looks like an absolute fucking twat.
Oliver Evans
There's worse designs around, though I'll admit all the feathers, beads, and straps seemed a bit odd when they first announced the game.
Bit hard to believe the same guy that designed Emil would later design Ludger, a drastic improvement in my opinion. Funnily enough, Okamura has said he's really not a fan of Ludger's design (citing that he looked too much like a generic NPC), but that was the version Namco opted for so it's what stuck.
Aaron Ortiz
I love both and for a while thought of 2 the better, but on repeated playthroughs I found that 2 loses almost all momentum after the Luca fight, what with a third of the game to go and a limp wristed antagonist in Jowy who has no real justification as to his motivations for continuing the war (the Luca sympathies and the State rape story being missing from the localisation compound this problem.) When I replay 2 I usually beat Luca and then burn out. Suikoden 1 might be babbies first JRPG (and relatively recent interviews state that Suikoden 1 was just a proof of concept for 2), but it's concise and the pacing is much tighter. I think for a first playthrough where I didn't know what was coming up next Suikoden 2 was better, but on repeat playthroughs I prefer 1.
Wyatt Richardson
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Alexander Hernandez
BoF 3 feels more like a direct sequel to BoF 1 than 2, but that's because the series has a messy history to begin with.
It's a hugely comfy title: you aren't a young hero in a quest to save the world, you are in a quest for the truth. The cast is memorable, there's full body female nudity at some point (not censored for the Western release), there's fishing, there's training a nerd to beat up a bully, there are prostitutes… just play it, you won't be disappointed.
Jack Sanders
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Juan Walker
You're forgetting the fairy-simcity minigame (with huge payout potential), sneaking out a mafia don's house, cooking the perfect dish for an annoying geezer, and one of the most hilarious bosses - a dolphin who speaks like an Aussie (or uses Kansai dialect in the original) It is indeed a pretty damn comfy game. The fishing minigame is pretty much a whole title by itself.
Emil is not so bad to be honest. There are far worse offenders of belts and zippers. Emil looks simple compared to those.
Jonathan Reed
Indeed - just look at Asbel, for example. I used his outfit for Milla in Xillia 1+2, it really suited her quite well…
Blake Morales
Jesus christ how horrifying. I don't think his designs are bad in isolation, in fact I kind of like Asbels discofunk suit, but when lined up like this they are all awful. Way too many clashing colors, styles, and belts.
Fujishima's designs are great though. Nice, mostly functional, low belt-level, elegantly colored, and vibrant.
Jace Taylor
Currently playing 3 and ime at the part where you reach the yggdrasil dungeon after fighting the head prophet and meeting virginas dad the third time and he gives her the anti nanite medicine. I got like 40% into 4 a while ago and got to the part where you fight that giant sandworm to get into the lava dungeon before i said fuck it and stopped and literally only played like two minutes of 5 as a stress test to see if it emulated well. Havent tried 1/alter f or 2 but after i beat three ille probaly move on to 1/code alter then play in order. Probaly skip the spinoff altogether.
So far its been enjoyable. I like how the series is able to mesh science and magick and make it sound preety darn feesible and not retarted. The first time i made the connection that the demons were actually foreighn aliens I was pleaseantly suprised that it didnt sound like complete bullshit because the game alludes to it many times in different books and texts and builds up to it.
Noah Parker
Inomata's designs aren't exactly bad, but I prefer her older stuff from Destiny and Eternia compared to the more recent ones (and the way NPCs in Eternia are prone to shitting on Reid's fashion sense is always entertaining). Plus, these days, they have all three or four artists working on the same games, so you get styles that can clash slightly at times. As for Fujishima, his designs are indeed a bit more feasible (and even Luke's has an excuse you could claim for his silly belly shirt), but he's got a bit of an issue with samefacing at times.
I do wonder though, given the more standardized nature of the outfits in Xillia 2 (which makes sense due to the lore between games), did Okamura get to do his own take on the cast of Xillia, or were those still Fujishima and Inomata coming up with outfits that meshed well with Okamura's design for Ludger?
Shame Namco locked the Yuri and Asbel Xillia outfits to the $130 collectors edition after they were preorder DLC in Japan. Really a bit sad that Milla manages to wear the disco-knight attire better than the character it was originally for.
Yeah, the Metal Demons (I'm still curious as to what they're exactly called in Japan; WA1/ACF call them Metal Demons here in the west, while WA3 generally just calls them demons and uses the metal description more sparingly; the demons in WA2 though are just demons from what I could make of it, with no metal descriptor used) are, or were, alien beings, of a sort anyhow (I don't want to spoil anything). Bit comparable to the Veruni in WA5, though they're still not the same. Considering Media.Vision's generally been a bit wishywashy on continuity, it's a tad hard to tell exactly if the games are same planet/timeline (could be different incarnations of the ever-fucked Filgaia), but WA3 has enough returning elements and callbacks to WA1 that I find it to be a distant sequel by who knows how long. That's just my take on it though. And yeah, I think the devs liked the mesh of sci-fi, fantasy, and western, allowing them to do varying levels of each while still ultimately being "weird west" or whatever the term is. That said, WA3 is about as western as the series gets, while WA4 is decidedly much more sci-fi than western.
Another thing to enjoy about the series is that due to the setting usually involving some sort of catastrophe that humanity is recovering from, it gives a rather valid feeling explanation for why there's not a lot of towns or people in them (population is still low and some people eke out a living as drifters roaming the wilds).
Alexander Lewis
Running CFW here, so I got Disco Milla for free and also the original JP voices. Way better. Fuck Bamco's kike DLC.
Benjamin Ward
Yeah, I wish I had a CFW PS3, especially for when more starts happening fan-translation wise in the future. Not sure how readily available the ones that are still low enough to have it put on there are where I am, and I suspect that any game stocking store that gets one in might auto-update them when they take them in if they think a 3.55 or below one might lose them game sales in the long run (and it's my guess asking for one in particular at that OFW or below might raise flags).
I really don't mind dubs too much provided there's at least some effort (Chaos Wars and Arc Rise Fantasia tier dubbing can fuck right off though), but yeah, I assume that the Japanese voicing is a lot better. Though, I'm guessing that playing with the undub doesn't include player added subs for things that normally don't have text boxes, like battle banter or win quotes.
Hudson Cox
If you like Zestiria then you'll probably like anything to be honest. Berseria (the next game) is coming out in about a month and looks to be a lot better. Might have denuvo though.
Christopher Rivera
It's not that hard to find CFWable consoles. If you can get a 3.55 or lower system 10 minutes will be enough to get yourself on CFW. The other alternative is to find a downgradeable system. Long story short: All phats can be DG'd, Slims up to CECH25xx datecodes 0x and earlier can be DG'd. CECH25xx with 1x datecodes are hit or miss, and CECH30xx + superslims are no-go.
It's worth it not just for 'lost' games such as Scott Pilgrim or After Burner Climax, but also to get cross-region DLC patched in as in pic related, and also to play the best version of Vesperia in English. Patty a best.
Isaac Martinez
Main issue for me would just be finding one (if not a pre-CFWed one), preferably locally so I wouldn't have to deal with trying to pay for shipping on something that big. I still have a working PS2 myself, so what's the highest memory sized one capable of being at 3.55 or less?
Fucking stupid that Namco still won't come clean about why Tales of Vesperia PS3 never came west. Saw them claim that Microsoft had an exclusivity contract, but then that it had already run out by the time of that statement, and they Namco KNOWS how well the west regards Vesperia, and how annoying having it be (officially, in regards to actual English releases) stuck on a system people really don't look to for JRPGs, especially considering a number of ones that were formerly exclusive eventually got ported to the PS3 with extended features, leaving Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, and Tales of Vesperia on it in English as western exclusives.
Aaron Baker
Slims from that time came in 120GB, 160GB and 320GB configurations. You can of course replace the HDD with another standard laptop type HDD, however.
Wyatt Taylor
Thanks, might have to look into one in the future. Downgrading requires a flasher too, right?
Lincoln Thomas
Yeah. I recommend finding someone to do this for you. It's a bit complex and it requires $100 of equipment that you'll use just once.
If you can get a sealed ~2010/11 system the better chance of it having 3.55 or lower. The boxes from that time were like pic related - look for the Netflix ready logo. (320 GB models have gray instead of white color in the box). Also, the model is listed in the side of the box at the bottom part - if you find a CECH25xx system you may need to open it to check the datecode - if it's 1B do not get that one.
Christopher Ward
Not sure how easy it's going to be to find an unused one at this point, at least locally, but I'll keep that in mind.
Levi Rivera
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Lincoln Baker
OP you can't just drop in 2 posts then disappear, talk about these video games