Why do normalfags defend Denuvo? Seriously, what in the fuck is wrong with them?
I mean, I can understand Steam. It is DRM yes, but it's the most weaksauce, bullshit DRM in the history of the world, while providing convenience and some value in return. Hardliners still hate it obviously, but at least a fucking argument to could made.
Denuvo is just pure, 100% cancer. It returns nothing of value to the consumer for the imposition it provides, it does literally nothing for the consumer and does nothing but enrich and enhance publisher control…and consumers fucking defend it.
I'm so done. Fuck this gay earth.
Connor Jenkins
Seems like a cool guy to me
Landon Phillips
Because they are paid to create a false consensus.
Colton Miller
Can you give me an example of a time when normalfags defended it? Because I don't see it.
Christopher Sullivan
I guess because denuvo=no crack= no pirate=more people buy it=more money to dev=more game is made. Although this logic is heavily flawed.
Caleb Davis
B-but pirating is literally just like breaking into a store and stealing some. Denuvo is just like a shop having a security system. Stop stealing you entitled goober gabber.
Grayson Perez
Apply yourself.
William Rogers
Get the fuck out of the thread hardliner, I don't give a fuck.
Unless you are on GNU, browsing without DNS lookup on an entirely AMD or ARM based PC through a custom VPN, I don't want your fucking opinion.
Easton Allen
It is not that they defend it so much as they just don't care.
Jeremiah Rodriguez
Sure those normalfags aren't actually Denuvo shills? Back when Denuvo was new I saw a lot of 'Piratefags btfo' threads full of people going on about how Denuvo is fixing PC gaming, and it always came off as artificial. Have enough shills and you'll get the normalfag's opinion, because 'Everyone else likes Denuvo except those filthy thieves'.
Christopher Perez
don't forget denuvo doesn't just provide zero benefits, it actually harms the user's computer as well. it's a net negative.
Gavin Powell
good job
Sebastian Sanchez
90% of "normalfags" don't even know what the fuck it is. And the other 10% know but share the same opinion of the first: they don't give a shit.
You know why? Because they don't see any downsides to it. Are there downsides? Yes. Are they visible? No. You're preaching to the choir here, boy. The few people who know what Denuvo is and are against it are a very, VERY small minority. My advice is to suck it up and deal with it. Starforce wasn't that long ago and it pretty much was the same shit. And look how that ended.
Gavin Perry
Why do normalfags defend steam?
Liam Reed
Those guys weren't even shills. Just the run-of-the-mill shitposter "trolling" piratefags. It didn't help that the piratefags got legit butthurt (read: a couple did and posted enough times to make it look like ALL piratefags were butthurt to the glee of the trolls).
Noone fucking defends Denuvo. Not normalfags. Not Holla Forumsirgins, noone. It's always the same vicious cycle of "Ooooh, this gets someone mad, I'll post about it".
David Perez
The correct term is Holla Forumsedditors, considering how much they love taking valves dick down their throat.
Connor Ward
In a thread in DE:MD on Steam I've seen a couple of buyers praising the thing. Don't have shots to prove though.
Brayden Stewart
What's surprising about this?
Owen Cox
This.
It's like some of you forget shills exist or just don't want to believe it. People are paid to answer phones just to provide shitty customer service. Why wouldn't people be paid to promote ideas or hinder ideas that concern governments and businesses? Why wouldn't a business pay someone to post that they think DRM is good? That season passes are good? Etc. etc.
It isn't even hard to do. Hell it isn't hard to make bots do most of the work.
Liam Thompson
Speak for yourself cock-buster.
Asher James
I don't use steam, I pirate steam exclusives if I want to play them.
Nathaniel Nguyen
Normal fags don't use SSDs This thread doesn't need to exist.
Cameron Bennett
I wouldn't be shocked if that turned out to be true. If they're shady enough to buy off crackers because they know their MUH UNCRACKABLE DRM bullshit is a scam, they're probably shady enough to hire some PR firm or viral marketer to go around doing damage control for them. Remember CTR? It's not just politicians that use these fuckers.
Kevin Ramirez
Vegetarianism is mainstream now, so a lot of normalfags are not getting the testosterone increase from red meats. Not to mention a lot of them are retards who eat soy products with increases your estrogen count.
Less testosterone + more estrogen = becoming a submissive cuck. They're taking it in the ass now. To truly destroy the submissive nature of normalfags we need to meme vegetarianism out of existence.
Aaron Rivera
This. I bought and played MGSV without getting a slightest idea it might have denuvo in it. Never had any technical/performance problems either.
Carson Myers
Do you have proof this happens? What's with all the faggot ass OPs asking questions like "WHY ARE X DEFENDING Y" without showing any sort of examples of X defending Y?
Carter Davis
Those are twos alright, my green spandex man.
Alexander Price
Same reason we keep having (1) & done OPs.
Wyatt Sullivan
Because it pisses off you pathetic mustard race losers
Yea sure you didn't, it just rips you inside to know you can't steal it and that makes me laugh my ass off.
Aaron Brown
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Owen Reed
Absolutely checked.
Fucking nice.
Nathan Turner
adios, faggot. I just bought MGS:V. Planet Coaster, and Hitman because of your awesome post!
Andrew Barnes
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Tyler Hill
MGSV is great game though, even in its unfinished state.
Nolan Perry
lol no
Liam Morgan
Checking IDs is cancer But holy shit how did you get those?
Luke Long
lol yes
Isaac Wood
Denuvo stopped me from buying Planet Coaster and would've stopped me from getting MGSV if I had known about what it does to SSDs. UPlay is too much of a pain to register, GFWL is what keeps me from finishing GTA IV and Episodes, and Denuvo literally shortens the life of your SSD. That's what you get for buying games and being a boy scout, they'll shit all over your expensive PC.
Because of Denuvo, I'm going back to playing games on consoles. Doing that also opens the door for me to finally use only GNU/Linux on my next PC, because without games, Windows is nothing.
Luis Butler
not one dev or publisher is required to use the steamworks drm to put their game on the steam platform. A large number of steam games you can play without logging into steam. The ones you can't? Bring it up with the publishers, steam has nothing to do with their choice to use drm.
Wyatt Davis
Kill yourself
Alexander Butler
If any normalfag actually defends Denuvo (and it's not just a shill for the sake of argument) it's probably because it gives them a justification for paying $80 on something that is utter dogshit.
Jace Wright
Reminder that some of the richest people on the planet do not ostent themselves like fucking apes nor do they like to waste money indiscriminately.
Joseph Wilson
Most wealthy people wont spend any money at all unless they absolutely have to.
Ryan Watson
I hope you mean older stuff and not the PS4/X1. Get an Xbox and a copy of Splinter Cell, and softmod it.
Caleb Cruz
Why havent't you been making Xbox generals anymore?
Michael Adams
I'm not responsible for the sleaziness of publishers.
I focus on older games, but eBay resellers will out-price new games within the next two years. I guarantee it.
Nolan Gonzalez
I'm not the guy who usually does that. I'm just a guy who likes softmodded consoles. I don't have all the pics to make a thread like that.
Adrian Phillips
God damn that was a great smackdown. Well played.
Wow you're smart
Samuel Richardson
Was it a real normalfag though, or was it just a shill disguised as a normalfag?
The point was that consumer-driven arguments could be made for steam, unlike with fucking Denuvo.
The user you're responding to was talking about conspicuous consumption, which is a thing upper-middle-class people do to pretend they're rich.
Jonathan White
Chances are it's a shill but nowadays console kiddies are just reaching new lows daily
Alexander Robinson
From the fire into the frying pan Kill yourself
Even the working class does this Nothing but apes underneath their skin
Joshua Myers
Steam was created as DRM for Half Life 2. It is DRM whether you like it or not, valvedrone.
Julian Bailey
piracy would have the dude with the wallet willing let any and every thief copy it
Caleb Cooper
Wouldn't that also be identity theft?
(Also, honestly speaking, if you were taken in to court for piracy, you better damn hope they try you for theft, considering that it's a much lighter charge than copyright infringement or whatever they're calling it now)
Nolan Peterson
I can play HL2 offline just fine Steam-free. Hell, I got it for free because it's a base game for Ep 2, and I only actually own Ep 2 after being gifted it by a buddy. Steam DRM is the easiest shit to crack on the face of the planet and barely even counts when most anything you want works outside of the steamapps folders either already good-to-go or with a quick .dll change.
Easton Gray
It isn't exactly hard to have an AMD CPU with Linux and use a VPN Still, I'm glad faggots like this shut the fuck up.
Xavier Gonzalez
If you wanna be technical about shit, Steam is just the distrubution platform while SteamWORKS is DRM
Michael Gray
Then just pirate it in the first place and stop paying for a DRMed product you yourself admit you can just crack.
Aaron Nelson
You might as well call GoG.com DRM too, since you need to buy games on their platform to play them instead of having access for free.
Leo Robinson
Denuvo is not about the consumer it's about converting pirates into consumers. Publishers would not use it if it didn't make money.
Jackson Harris
You don't need any of their software or hardware present in order to decrypt your games from them, as their installers can be copies and ran on any PC. You're a fucking retard.
Bentley Davis
There's my cue to not take you seriously.
Ethan Murphy
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Jack Gutierrez
There is nothing wrong with drm like denuvo or steam
Oliver Watson
Considering piracy exists, sure. I'll just continue to pirate anything that has DRM and I'll remain unaffected, while the retards who pay for DRM get DRM.
Kevin Powell
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Mason Phillips
It's calm-down time user.
Jaxson Thompson
Shill please.
Ian Ramirez
Faggot
Daniel James
You're blatantly defending DRM by downplaying it with "but you can crack it, that makes DRM ok!"
Jason Foster
Shouldn't you be maintaining Gentoo right about now?
Easton Campbell
Ive seen people defending it on the tales of berseria hub on steam
Andrew Richardson
Really? I though SteamWorks was the one that handled online games.
Ethan Rogers
No my argument is Steam isn't even worth pissing and moaning about when it's probably the least intrusive and easily-worked around DRM on the planet bar GoG's installer files. Don't prove that other guy right that you're a faggot by putting words in other peoples' mouths. You're better than this. I believe in you. I love you.
Isaac Cruz
Whatever you say, valvedrone.
Jaxson Richardson
Stop being a faggot.
Angel Cruz
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Elijah Gomez
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Jeremiah Harris
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Blake Gomez
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Hunter Jones
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Kevin Butler
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Blake Turner
No Steam would mean I wouldn't be playing EDF 4.1 at 60fps right now. Its nothing but a placebo Keep sperging out though, its pretty funny to watch.
Nolan Cook
And you're the one who doesn't stop parroting about it. Literally every post of yours is that.
Isaac Thompson
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Gavin Brown
Nobody actually knows if DRM makes money for anyone other than the DRM provider though.
user, you do realize that easily-cracked DRM is functionally identical to no DRM, right? Also, it at least comes with steam sales, so the consumer isn't getting a dick up their ass for putting up with the DRM, unlike with literally every other DRM scheme on the fucking planet.
John Morgan
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Angel Edwards
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Anthony Reyes
Ok
DRM is never ok when anyone does it. It's an anti customer practice that only exists to restrict the user. It doesn't improve the function of the product. It doesn't provide vital libraries for the game to run. Every game is made and functions without DRM before it's added on at the end.
I'll just keep pirating to get the version of the game with no drm instead of paying for the easily cracked DRM, thanks.
Charles Kelly
Go back to >>>Holla Forums you unberable faggot.
Matthew Williams
So what? You still appear to have autism of the worst kind.
Ryder Long
So what? You still appear to be shitposting and replying just to shitpost.
Caleb Nguyen
A lot of people see criticism of drm and think "butthurt pirate" and use it as a tool to browbeat people. most drm defenders ive seen arent "Denuvo shills" per se but usually a fanboy of whatever company made whatever game they're playing.
Jayden Gutierrez
denuvo wouldn't have shills anyway game companies who use it on the other hand…
Xavier Mitchell
Steam is not DRM Steamworks is Thats the whole point of this discussion I wouldn't defend the fat kike or his locked down platform, ever, especially not after everything he has done. I'll keep cracking every game
Eli Torres
I bet you still have an account and spend money on steam.
Isaac Perez
you can't have one without the other so the discrepancy is kind of moot.
Thomas Bailey
what exactly is wrong with denuvo? all DRM is bad, but the whole hardware failure shit is false, so I really don't know what makes it worse than other DRM
Xavier Nelson
aside from making cracking more difficult its also sort of an anti tamper guard so it makes modding and such a lot more difficult. it puts things like the dark souls and tales of fixes in jeopardy. also rip sfm porn
Jose Lewis
I do And from Playism, itch, Mangagamer, Desura, Humble and GOG. Stay a sperg though
Next time try doing some research before talking out of your ass.
Michael Nguyen
You also need to re-authenticate it whenever your hardware changes, and it calls home every once in a while. On top of that, the only primary source for "Denuvo doesn't kill your SSD" is Denuvo's website, so that statement only has as much weight as a greentext story about fucking gamestop.
Dylan Hall
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Zachary Gomez
Conditioning.
Evan Green
There are neither proofs that it kills SSDs nor proofs it doesn't. Currently SSDs are joke anyway. Anubody who got boght into this shitty meme deserves whatever bullshit he gets.
Sebastian Johnson
Impressive.
Nicholas Myers
so it doesn't. oh i get it your first statement was a signal to let us know you are a retard
Nicholas Cook
Again, as much weight as a FUCKING GAMESTOP greentext.
Henry Brooks
DRM is necessary for developers to feel secure with releasing their games, though.
David Thomas
Do you not fucking realize where we are?
Henry Morris
More like publishers. Developers are paid already via contracts, they shouldn't give two shits about piracy.
Carter Gutierrez
Piratefag butthurt sounds hilarious. I know pirating is a good way to stop bullshit devs lying out of their ass, but the pretty much all the people I've seen on here who bring it up come off as spoiled neets who just don't want to pay for anything. I bet the same people also bitch about their favorite game series/dev dying/going to shit/not getting a sequel.
Parker Green
Same difference. If there was no publisher, they would give quite the shit about piracy, and, actually, many developers do dislike the idea of someone simply getting a game for free with no work of their own put in.
Xavier James
We already know that Denuvo actually do have cunts that go around on forums and such defending it, it's not so much of a stretch to think that they're here as well.
William Reed
Holla Forums - Venting and Blogs Normalfags don't know how to pirate or are legitimately afraid of being caught, so they dont care about DRM. Only autists do.
Nicholas Williams
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Evan Walker
Because it doesn't do shi… Oh hey there you go, answered your own question. Normalfag buys game and plays it, no problem. Only pirates hate it, because it's a bitch to crack, and you can't get your hated AAA interactive movie for free on release day. If the whole SSD killing business was true, then company would already go bankrupt from all the lawsuits from customers who got their pricey piece of hardware bricked by it.
Compare to Uplay that constantly gets shit on by everyone and their dog, because how terrible and anti-consumer it is. It actually hurts consumer's experience, while denuvo might as well not exist for him.
Kekkerino
Luke Kelly
It is the same shit that has been going on for years.
That was how they would gauge the general opinion of specific boards for a long time and use them as a sort of data collection method. It got to the point where those threads became so common that more and more people started doing it. Not much has changed really.
David Ross
Only niggers, spics, and normalfags steal things. If you torrent you're no better than them.
Check mate, mate
Juan Kelly
Yes, poor per.. esteemed proletariat, always buy digital products that can be endlessly copied. It's not like I only pay the people I employ to make it then take 100% of the profits the business receives from sales or anything. Clearly data should be forced into the procrustean bed of real commodities, and anyone stealing it should be jailed or fined like-destroying amounts of money for playing a videogame. Thank you for correcting the record.
Juan Long
There are people on this board who LOVE Denuvo because they somehow have a grudge against pirates.
Dominic Hernandez
>>>Holla Forums Vidya isn't made with sunshine and wishes. While I think video games pricing needs to be changed, if you want quality games, there has to be monetary incentive. Or do you prefer everything to look like Dwarf Fortress?
Austin Anderson
I think suits should fuck off. Developers get paid bog standard wages, or if they're a big name like Kojima potentially more. Then some faggot who sits on a pile of cash rakes in millions, whilst simulataneously stifling risk-taking and innovation because boring, rehashed vanilla shit is a safer investment.
Brandon Miller
Nah it's just a way to get some guaranteed replies. The OP's wording is basically "hurr normalfags succ and they ruin our perfect hobby :( :( :( :(", which is perfectly good bait for your average dead in the head shitposter. Not to mention the slight mention of Steam as being acceptable being the right touch to upset those that pretend they're cool and fighting the man while still using Windows.
It's perfectly balanced bait designed for guaranteed replies.
Angel Lee
Keep crying fag.
Easton Myers
They've been trained well by their Marxist Jewish masters. They care more about corporations and brands than they do about their own families. The human race is diverging into one comprised of semites and golems.
Adam Ortiz
Are you saying that zero piracy would make them parcel the budget differently, with less spent on advertisement and more on development?
Michael Gomez
Please don't pirate games! The people who made them worked very hard and deserve your money. If they don't get their money, video games die!
Landon Roberts
I'm fine with denuvo, I don't mind waiting to pirate a game, it doesn't ruin the consumers experience or make their game run worse unlike the microsoft store drm
Asher Howard
Then the developers need to tel them off, and find a way to make enough money for their game on their own.