I dont want to sell out my people

I dont want to sell out my people
Internationalism and multiculturalism dont work.
I wouldnt mind socialism if combined with nationialism to serve the people of my nations best interests.
I refuse to lie down and let my bloodline be wipped out with shitskins - whether through globalism or capitalism

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spooky

If you want to maintain your racial purity just don't breed with any one of a different race. It's that simple.

spooky to not want my people to be destroyed?
Only whites truly believe in freedoms like freedom of speech, gun rights etc.
I refuse to allow my ancestors to be slaughtered as minorities in their own countries my ancestors built.

I dont want my nation to be taken over by minority groups.
I want a white nation that provides for all citizens, not our of generiousity but because we are all white.

what values one race's claim over a piece of dirt over another?

that's a lot of platitudes ya got there bucko

That our ancestors built and lived on the land for thousands of years.
Im not claiming racial supremacy, Europe for whites, africa for blacks, asia for asians.
There doesnt need to be conflict or integration.
Im happy for us whites to leave places like North america, australia, new zealand and return to europe if all the minorities do the same

I will make sure to enforce irrelevant shiting in the gulags

you mean MY country and MY people

Nation not country.
My people do not deserve to be enslaved by the globalist capitalist agenda.

Except cultural blending and movement of race people and ideas is the common basis of history. Societies rise and full, cultures come and go, and new ones are made of cultural interaction. This has happened all throughout history and will keep happening

side note here,
Leftism will die if it doesnt start to drop identity politics and hating on whites.
We could embark on a actually reactionary working class revolution

irrelevant shiting wouldn't be a thing under global communism. Not because the state would forbid it but because there would be little reason for people to leave their ancestral homelands.

This is completely false.
Only in the past 200-300 years have races begun to mix and people moved around the globe easily.
Mixed racial people are far inferior of both original races - whether black, asian or white.

Brown people and shitskins want to enslave and kill all whites.
Look at islam, they want christians to be killed

Fuck off

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Then your movement will die.
We're trending towards a degenerate libertarian-conservative two party system here in the west.
Either we have leftist economics or nothing

look we understand you are an incel, so thats why we will provide you a gf, but she will be a negro

it will be a gulag with a human face

I would never plant my seed in a negress.
Niggers are literally sub human apes, they deserve to have africa but nothing else

Nazi logic right there.

Over thousands of year maybe, and even then it wasn't really mixing but rather assimilation/adaptation.

Nazism was right wing,
Im a socialist nationalist.
I dont want to gas the kikes or anything just reclaim our lands (Europe) and live peacefully

no you don't understand, once we take over you will be sent to the gulag to be forced to interbreed, while we outside enjoy voluntary association

they deserve whatever the ego claims

This is just proof that communism is really just deeply triggering and problematic.
Funny how communism was invented, like all political philosophies by whites.

sorry user, the mandatory gulag breeding starts at 12

It doesn't make sense to fight for the interests of your "nation" because not everyone in your country has the same interests as you and you don't have the same interests as everyone in your country. That is to say, if you are a worker, the ruling class doesn't have the same interests as you, even if you're both citizens of the same nation. Conversely, workers from other nations have the same interests as you, as workers. Therefore working for the interests of a nation will always end up being a disservice to yourself and to people who share your interests, and a service to those who oppose you.

but karl marx was a jew, besides, several native tribes all over latin america and other primitive societies all practiced a form of communalism

I am a fan of nationalism, particularly in the vein of Rousseau, but you are very naive OP. For one thing, international associations, trade organizations, and transnational corporations have already usurped every economic power from nations and is replacing them as the major building-blocks of the world system. Nations retreat before, resist, adapt to, are absorbed by or dislocated by the new supranational restructuring of the globe. The very growth of the human population, technologies from airplanes to the internet, have undermined the vitality and purpose of nations.
The second thing is your solution is no better than the liberal open-borders. How is Europe even going to account for all the mass immigration of White people from America? There is even a greater prospect for crime than you have now among migrant sandnegros, for with population density increasing much more significantly, material sources and cultural spaces being shared far more often, there is bound to be a pluck from the tensest cord.

"Your people" don't give a shit about you. Racism was literally invented by wealthy Europeans to justify imperialism and slavery (especially black slavery) during the start of the industrial revolution. If you don't like blacks that is fine but realize that your hatred is a form of false consciousness that is meant to keep your from unifying with your comrades.

Racism has existed for thousands of years.
Arabs enslaved much more blacks and europeaners during the early medieval ages and treated them much worse.
see this is more deeply triggering and problematic id pol

Whites are capable of returning to europe and returning it back to its glory days before cultural marxism

how does it feel to know that, by stadistics alone, your descendants will irrelevant shit at some point?


youtube.com/watch?v=A-ISiPD6w9c

Your ideas have no basis in reality. Nations, races and cultures are not homogenous monoliths.

If you seriously think that blacks are "sub-human" you have probably never even had a fucking conversation with one. I'll tell you one thing for sure, there are black guys who are far more intelligent and civilized than you will ever be, running around your country in university campuses and clubs who are going around and fucking all the hot white girls and there's nothing you can do to stop it. It doesn't fucking matter. Race is bullshit.

Being prejudiced against people is not the same thing as "racism." That's like claiming that Capitalism has existed for thousands of years because people have been using money for that long.

My ancestors built this entire world.
Our legacy will be remembered - plus white birth rates are increasing and nationalism is booming - we arent finished yet commie

Black men are the far most likely to commit violent crime, drop out of high school, and are considered according to dating site studies the least attractive.
but nice try

Point is that whites didnt invent racism.
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statistics*
r4cemix*

Oh you mean like when every European state was at war and millions of people were dying every year?

I mean when whites were >30% of global pop, economic powerhouse and colonising and inventing everything in your life.

If blacks are so undateable and unfuckable then why are you so worried about being cucked by them

what did your ancestors mean by that???

seems like your ancestors just cucked you!!!

Its not blacks, more muslims and asians.
We wont get cucked, just outbred by them and cultural marxism has socially conditioned us to accept it blindly.
My childrens children will be minorities in our own country and probably slaughtered

They did. The idea that "whites" (i.e. western europeans) were inherently superior and that certain other races were not only inferior but, in the case of many "slave races", were literally subhuman was completely fabricated by western european imperialists.

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but isn't this the world the white man created, as the white man created everything?

Because his ideas are demonstrably false.

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What does this even mean?

So western europeaners are the reason arabs thought african blacks were subhuman and inslaved them in the 6th century?
o thx

im against white and black or asian colonism.
White people in white lands, blacks in black

The rich capitalist globalists are the ones creating this in order to destroy the middle class and spread evil capitalism.

really? wtf I hate the capitalists now!

ok mate, us americans just need to back to europe now or wherever we came from because north america belongs to the injuns. Gotcha.

Capitalism is deeply triggering and problematic as is full communism
Basically social democracy with nationalism is the dream ideology

If we have to sacrifice NA in order to ensure the existence of our people and a future of white people then yes

but user, there is no such thing as nationalism, all the world is my property

Define "white."

People of nordic, anglo, western european ancestry with >95% white blood
not that hard

that honestly sounds pretty difficult to identify

Don't worry, she will be a mixed breed too.

a simple blood test

So what happens to a baby with too low of muh white blood

let's analyze bloodtests for a moment, if you get a genetic composition test, the only reason you can make up a model is if you compare it to the average found in that zone, which at the end of the day are other individuals, however we can assume that as time passes and population changes, so will the average, meaning the results of the individual will now be determined by an ever changing model, made up by ever changing individuals

now that we have understood how there is no such thing as european blood, how do we determine such thing?

was this too much for you to handle?

I mean I'm Jewish and my family came from Germany. Does that mean I get to go back home?

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Before the Muslims invaded and taught Europe science, (seriously have you even heard of Avicenna?) England was a fucking backwater.

I bet you were dumb enough to submit your blood to 23andme's database too. Stop peddling false consciousness.

arbitrary and useless terms created to divide workers

That means italy and greece are not white

Kind of like racial libertarianism I guess. Don't mess around otherwise you're violating my NAP.

so all americans go back to their respective lands?

If you need a fucking blood test to tell the people apart then why are you even doing it in the first place?! I thought you shared some universal characteristic with these people that you can identify with other than their skin colour. If so then why do you need a blood test?

What about mixed race individuals?

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There will always be differences between different types of people but societies will always draw the lines between societies based off of what the ruling class want in any society.

They just fucking die. Are you happy now, OP?

i've seen a lot of Holla Forumstards advocate sterilising them

look up the "rhineland bastards"

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I find it a bit odd but it's not worth getting annoyed over

me on the right

You're an idiot. Not only do many White Americans feel nonplussed by Europe, it would be much harder for someone who only has control over English to integrate fully into most of European society, even in larger cities with lots of people who have learned some English, the level is only rarely beyond intermediate at best, and you’ll mostly just be making banal small talk. These are not the only cultural barriers Americans have with Europeans, but it is a very significant one you are overlooking.
Beyond that, you're asking them to sacrifice how much land? You have no idea the amount of labour and resources it would take to get all the planet's Caucasoid population (not just from the US) self-sufficient in Europe, and just so you know, I asked a demographer friend, that'll be over twice the white population you have now in Europe.

Yeah, but dude racial purity. Think about it.

Holla Forums urgently needs anthropology classes

I have an idea. let's make that ideology. I wonder what we should call it.
National Socialism, perhaps?

Anthropology is socjus "science", donchano?

Racial purity is a spook. Read Mussolini :^)

Really makes you think

Fuck the Nazis were like the original Neoliberals.

Really caboodles the noodle.

Anfems, when it comes down to it will you be comrades or are you going to just keep agitating both sides?

What do you mean? I do not try to agitate you guys purposely…too much. And I was agreeing with that user that the Nazis were pretty much neoliberals.

Really? I'd expect nazi germany to be pretty much against all kinds of drugs, what with all their propaganda against Weimar Republic 'degenerency' and cigarettes. Have any sources?

By whom and how? Nobody is going to kill "your people".

"whites" don't exist you spooked up idiot

you don't have "a people"

So muh people is idiotic shit, but what about civic nationalism? The belief that ideas are what create a nation?

Could it be said that being a Soviet nationalist could be a good form of nationalism if you believed that it was the purpose of the nation to spread communism? America is also this way. It is ideas, not race, that make you American. So why cannot we create a socialist nation and center it on civic nationalism?

Spooks detected

you don't belong here

get out

and stay out

Because then you can dissmiss the concept of nation alltogether andmfocus on an international working class

Lmao seriously. The bullshit they spew was abandoned by literally everyone by the late 1800's haha

All nationalism is shit. Focus on the struggles of all working people.

Please kill yourself asap.

Haha like umm what's your issue fam lol 🙄🙄🍆💦

Quick! you need a blood transfusion! Pick the IV line which came from a white person!

you fucking idiot.

Try counting to ten, I heard it works when you get triggered :^)

Not an argument.

Let me spell this out in no uncertain terms. It doesn't matter if 'racism, nationalism, tribalism, whatever' is a spook or not. Because as long as there are groups who act as if said 'spooks' exist then they can continue to leverage their group identity against others for their own benefit.

Holla Forums continues to disappoint me, you are pseudo-intellectuals who can only parrot back the same surface level understandings of things to each other.

But I digress, getting back on track…

Yes, if the ENTIRE WORLD collectively decided that racism, etc were spooks and overcame their biologically driven hatred for those of dissimilar backgrounds the world would arguably be a more egalitarian place. Keyword arguably.

However because group identities exist we are unfortunately locked into a strategic paradigm where if you don't take part in an identity (aka spook) then you unnecessarily handicap yourself.

Citation for examples in game theory, "the prisoners dilemma" and the "Mafia" social game invented by Soviet sociologist Dmitry Davidoff.

A small unified cohesive group can almost always overcome a dis-unified independent mass of individuals.

To relate this back to the prisoners dilemma, it is overall a winning strategy if both players cooperate. However because of the existence of a better payoff for not cooperating both or one player usually chooses to not cooperate and so no matter what a dominant strategy of noncooperation develops despite being sub-optimal.

You already did.

this has to be the worst excuse to be a spooked idpoler ever.

Yeah, but I'm talking hypothetically we have a nation that leans socialist and is trying to establish socialism. The only purpose of this nation is to spread it and liberate workers. Under this system, is nationalism at least a neutral emotion? After all, this nation doesn't say your people are better than others. It says that all workers belong to this nation and we now have to liberate them.

As the cool kids on Holla Forums like to say.

I have no words

citing unreproducible studies deliberately designed to lead to unsubstantiated biased results

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the workers don't belong to anyone. organisms can't belong to each other. try to go own an organism it will eventually spell doom for you and your people. either by way of developing diseases you would never normally have (cat allergies, dog allergies, pet influenzas) or slave revolts (have fun with that).

You are fighting the inevitability of the human individualistic spirit. It will burn every last prison, nation and race to ashes before its prevented from expressing itself. History is a testament to this

i used to think that Holla Forumsypes were just stupid, it turns out most of them have serious mental problems, most commonly paranoid disorder.

whats that?

science is a jewish lie made to destroy the white race

I fucking knew sabot poster is a complete newfaggot. Why the fuck won't you stop posting for the time being and lurk more?

when will you niggers read, READ

[stirner meme]

rekt, go home kiddo

that was not informative.
why so angry anyway?

You have to make sacrifices.

Because you don't lurk enough and it's painfully visible.

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Fuck off

I will humor your idiocy. Not only is the game reproducible it has been studied on the mathematical level and found possible for as few as 50 unified people to beat 10,000 dissociated individuals.

academia.edu/1211821/A_mathematical_model_of_the_Mafia_game

arxiv.org/abs/math/0609534


Life itself is one big prison and man spends his time merely exchanging one form of prison for another. If earth isn't a prison you are free to return to your home planet.


learn2scientific method. Controlled situations are used to generalize findings to the real world with minimal variable interference. I'm sure that if the data was taken from field sources you'd be bitching about unknown variables interfering with the results.


Nice pseudo-scientific ramblings unrelated to the topic at hand.

Yeah, during invasions where one group of people oppresses another. Mongols did a lit of 'cultural blending', but that involved rape 99.99% of the time.

I've owned a dog. Are pets not communist?

OP, look into Asserism, the left-wing side of the NSDAP who wanted an alliance with the USSR. Try not to get purged in the Night of the Long Knives.

OP you gotta realise that in the grand scheme of things, no cultures or races really matter. Pretty much all of them that exist today are a combination of past cultures and races, already mixed together to the point at which you can no longer see any hint of their separate origins.

Marxists believe that things are not divided into nation or race but rather worker and capitalist, because at the end of the day that's all that matters - money dosnt care what race you are or what country you're from, it acts the same everywhere.

In order to fight international capitalism, we must form an international movement.