Why the fuck is every final fantasy game labelled as being in the same franchise if most of them don't even share the same fictional universe?
Its like completely different games being labelled the same just for the sake of cynical brand recognition while having nothing to do with each other.
Jacob Kelly
You just answered your own post. Now, post FF Boypussy.
Brody Turner
but boys don't have pussies, silly
Angel Russell
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Jason Bailey
not with that attitude
Jackson Hall
Wow, I'm impressed Holla Forums, a whole OP post before the gays came out of the woodwork to suck each other off. Although it's not like a great thread is being squandered.
Jacob Brooks
I could ask the same question about the Legend of Zelda franchise or Mario.
James Watson
Zelda and Mario games share assets, general setting details and play similarly, or similarly enough. FF after 9 is just Generic Square RPG.
Alexander Flores
Fuck off breeder
Joshua Reyes
This is a /cuteboys/ thing isn't it. That board should be shoah'd.
Nathan Lopez
My god, a webcomic author from 2003 got sucked through a time portal!
You have to warn people about ISIS! They have to know!
Angel Baker
Mario and Zelda at least shares the same characters in every installment, and the same themes and general motifs. You can't say the same about final fantasy.
Henry Robinson
Apparently it's normal to be a faggot in a chan. You know, since there's no girls on the internet and the only acceptable fetish is waifus which is cuckolding in disguise.
Except they all have chocobos and gangnam style clothing and are fantasy games. Check m8, atheists.
Ayden Allen
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Jose Jones
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Asher Hughes
There is so much wrong with this post. At least sage when you're going for dubs.
Gavin Hall
/cuteboys/ is just /traps/. I want actual cute boys (young men between ages of 18 and 25}
Connor Turner
I forgot how to sage
Levi Bell
Kill yourself faggot.
Levi Moore
yag gnieb
Adrian Walker
Tell that to Fallout and Fallout 2 fans.
Isaac Roberts
but it has the some of the same factions and its set in the same universe and they even share some of the same areas set years later
Aaron Davis
Looking is fine VP "Deus Jolt".
Jack Torres
topkek
Jayden Nelson
Then just look, and don't come into threads demanding boypussy and declaring how much of a faggot you are.
Josiah Moore
And 3 and 4 are hated because of the bastardization done to the series.
A game series not having any sort of connection to any other game in the series is the best way to not fuck up the universe.
Juan Lopez
Read the IDs faggot. I wasn't the one who brought it up.
Isaac Reyes
but at that point its barely a series if its not even in the same continuity, like final fantasy
Daniel Turner
Well that just means the other faggot still has no excuse, and should end his life.
Easton Cooper
Every game has pretty boys, that's continuity.
Jack Moore
Eh. It's an FF15 thread. Discussion of homosexuality actually makes it LESS gay.
Tyler Moore
if having cute boys makes something a final fantasy game then every japanimation anime style game counts as final fantasy :^)
Xavier Murphy
This is actually a thread about final fantasy though.
Bentley Fisher
No, because they're not called Final Fantasy.
Samuel White
touche
Camden Thompson
was meant for
Brayden Watson
Because Chocobos, Bahamuts, Ifrits and Shivas. Pretty much the only things that stick with final fantasy.
Levi Cook
Of those, only Bahamut is from the original game.
Aaron Richardson
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Ryan Jackson
After 9, no. They largely do not.
Aiden Hughes
Ok, but those are among the most persistent. Which ones would you name ? Fire/Cure etc ?
Asher Reed
Yes, they do. Chocobos, fishing, default weaponry, attire etc have been consistent throughout. I'm OP of the thread yesterday btw who got called a shill for liking 15: you faggots are retarded. Currently autodriving to a mission listening to the ff7 soundtrack on the radio while I post this, this game = comfy af and the highlight of my december.
Jeremiah Young
But they are all in the same universe; haven't you read the not autismo fan-fiction of Hyrule Historia? :^)
Hudson Lewis
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Xavier Powell
You are a shill famalam. The kind who does it for free.
Caleb Watson
What the fuck is your stupid ignorant ass talking about? Chocobos are not added until FF2. Fishing isn't in any FF before 12, (not sure about 11, but that barely counts). Default weaponry, what the fuck do you even mean by this?
Attire? Are you kidding. Only FFX-2 and FF13-3 had significant costuming elements. Job system does not count.
In short, Square should hire people who know the damn series to shill.
Parker Hill
Lol what a gay
Hunter Cook
No surprise there, really explains their high molestation rates
Tyler Hughes
get off my thread
Ian Gomez
Why did they suddenly make the protag so gay looking?
Jason Morales
HOW DARE YOU WASTE THOSE NUMBERS YOU COCK GOBBLING MONGOLOID!!
Jack Sanders
The same reason they changed the protag in FFXII from Basch to Vaan. It's not hard to figure out.
Aiden Turner
It's a time skip. Adult Noctis is Basch all over again. WHY NOT FOLLOW HIM THE WHOLE TIME?
Carson Edwards
i'm seven hours in and so far the overarching theme is leaving home, preparing for adulthood and taking on responsibility, so it makes a lot more sense to have some emo faglord teenager than a grizzled adam jensen
William Moore
It started because the original game was never written with a sequel in mind (It was meant to be Square's last game), so Square decided to make the second game have an unrelated story instead of shoehorning in a sequel to a story never meant to have one.
Jayden Carter
Not true, it was going to be Sakaguchi(sp? w/e)'s last game. Square itself was not at risk.
Brandon Brooks
No offense but your pisspants paying for stuff is gay attitude is what's turning games to shit, moreso than jews or SJWs.
See the post I was replying to
Dipshit
Not what I said or meant, corky.
No u. My thread was ten times better than this mopey circlejerk.
Logan Davis
confirmed shill
Connor Stewart
Me too, honestly. When peple say "cute boys" they just mean traps. I want adorable effeminate men, like guys from Kingdom Hearts and FF.
Henry Howard
You do realize there are ways you can shill way more effective than this, right? 90% of the people here are better shills than you are. Also the official lion symbol is the one of the face from the front, not in profile
Grayson Reyes
Maybe if you figured out how to pirate new games instead of whining liking some spoiled commie 8 year old you could have an actual opinion.
Robert Hernandez
Fuck off. Sage
Kevin Baker
You have to build rapport, not just attack. I get this is a part time job and easier for you, but if you don't have pride in your work, you won't have pride in yourself.
Easton Ward
Bullshit. Square was about to go bankrupt at the time. They had a few minor successes at the time, but not enough to keep the company afloat.
Nathan Green
That's how Sakacucchi tells it. Take it up with him.
Nicholas Sanchez
You know I actually have respect for gayfags that actually admit they like men instead of delusional "it's not gay if the dick is feminine" bullshit. Traps are just for homos too pussy to come out of the completely seethrough closet.
Austin Stewart
ackshually
the D roman numeral can't go after the single digit units, iirc D is 500 so it has to go before the XXIV part D XX IV 500 20 4 524
go back to first grade you moron, you can't keep adding roman numerals out of rocky movie titles forever.
Luis Allen
The closest you're gonna get are twinks faggot. I want the same kind of boys though. Traps were a mistake.
Matthew Nguyen
Brand recognition as well as them sharing typically similar systems (moreso in the older titles) as well as recurring themes, skills, magic, item, etc names. Retains familiarity with long-term fans.
Grayson Parker
This is why no one will pay you to shill.
Sebastian Wood
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Carter Martin
You are a man of class
Asher Turner
source pls
Jason Rivera
What the fuck is even going on here? Is this even a real thread? Was OP's question even a real fucking question?
Jesus fucking christ… Do Super Mario Bros 1, 2, and 3 have a linear storyline with each other?
God fucking damn it this place is just retarded as all fuck. I feel like the quality of conversation has gone way down in the last few months. Why the fuck is that? Is this a raid by retards or did some more kids want to come here and be with the edgy cool guys that aren't even listed on google?
Aaron Long
Find it yourself you lazy nigger
Blake Perry
And that's how family dinner was ruined.
Benjamin Howard
wow what kinda shit family do you have?
Colton Reed
That was a fun thread. I enjoyed shitposting in it. You have objectively shit taste.
There's a washing machine thread on Holla Forums?
Sebastian Hill
Yeah and it's hot as fuck
Parents have been divorced for years. I'm actually at home editing me mum's doctoral thesis.
Jackson Young
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Alexander Morales
Dude just play a truck sim with FF music to it. I'tll give you the same RPG experience that FF15 does. Also, there has never been a person named Molynux that isn't a piece of shit.
Andrew Hughes
Fast travel is optional but you probably knew that already. Btw this abortion of a thread sums it up perfectly
Because vidya is closely linked to technology and technology is always improving. You're like old people watching hydrogen celled cars with GPS drive by while you pine for wheelbarrows. That SE took some wrong turn in keeping and adapting certain features might be a good argument except nobody ever talks about that, no instead any user who doesn't prefer a 16 bit FF that came out when gas was $1.50 must be a shill. 15 could be more challenging (so far, that could easily change soon) but overall it fills the bill of game I've been waiting on for years.
Brandon Perez
Don't mind if I do!
Alexander Foster
The heart wants what it wants. Besides people didn't drive or ride in wheel barrows as a means of transportation. They did ride horses. And to this day you can still ride a horse if you want to dispite all the advancements in transportation over the past 100 some odd years. Your analogies are as shit as your taste. Nigger I don't have to have a sprite based JRPG to make me happy. I would gladly take it if offered but I don't HAVE to have it. I would be perfectly thrilled with a HD offering of the types of games that the made on the PS1 and PS2. FF15 and 13 aren't anything like that and 15 barely qualifies as a JRPG. And it's funny how a game like Dragon Quest Builders is completely different from DQ1, whit it is a direct sequel from, yet it has that classic feel and is a really good game. So Square Enix is still fully capable of making good games that take advantage of new tech and design elements but otherwise feel and play as their classic games but apparently they are too far up their own asses to CHOOSE to do so, at least when it comes to Final Fantasy and their other Square Soft properties. Which goes back to my statement about your taste in games being shit.
Brayden Watson
I don't think you're as clever as you think you are. Please tell me where riding a horse is a viable alternative to driving in a car in today's modern world and infrastructure? And i'm not talking about living way the fuck out in the country where you have to round up cattle and spend time out in the wilderness. I'm talking about average day 9 to 5 wake up, go to work, come home type of person. The type that goes to grocery stores.
Also everything else you said was a bit of a stretch and you're basically just arguing your tastes vs the tastes of someone else. That's the point. Square has been trying to move away from at least one staple of japanese RPGs which has been the turn based battle system. Now if only they could move in a direction that allowed greater ranges of character customization and story pathing.
Joseph Perry
What on earth are you talking about? The 'gay looking' one is the same one we've seen for the last 10 years. The one with the beard was only revealed a few months ago and is part of some timeskip in the story.
Leo Morales
My analogy regarded technology hence a wheelbarrow works better than a horse. Horses would represent that which doesn't change over time, comparable to your underwear but not videogames. Again HOW SPECIFICALLY should they do that? Someone at hq obviously got tired enough of hearing this to remake 7 but something tells me even that won't be good enough for you.
Tyler Jenkins
You'd be surprised. DOT/DMV does issue license plate for carriages for road use. That's a stupid idea. Fans of Japanest style RPGs, both in Japan and in the west, want the old classic gameplay design. Those are WRPG design conceits. And considering the direction of games like Fallout 4 maybe not anymore. Which is a bad thing. Because even though I don't like WRPGs I know many people do and everyone should have the option to play the style of games they love. Which is my entire point, no one likes someone to say "we're not going to make games the way you want to any more because games have grown up, just get over it and move on, get with the times". You want to play the kind of games that you want to play.
Noah Carter
Completely missed the point. But whatever, you'll hold on to any little outcropping you can find to defend yourself.
It is apparently not what the masses want. So given the amount of money they pour into these games they're going to try to appeal to what people want. These days, people just really don't want a turn-based RPG. They want to feel in control no matter how much fluff that "control" is they still want it.
If you really want to point blame for that you have to look at a whole generation of game players who were brought up on MMOs (World of Warcraft primarily) as their entry into an RPG type of game.
Jayden Diaz
First, FF7 isn't even close to my favorite Final Fantasy game so I don't really care about the remake. Second, I have a copy of FF7 and I like it how it is so why would I buy it again? Finally, absolutely NO ONE wanted a "remake" of FF7. All they wanted was an HD version with that was other wise identical to the original version. They sure as hell didn't want what Square is doing with it, but it's current year Square so what are you going to do? It' not unexpected at this point. You DO realize that Square and Enix are a single company now don't you? My example about DQ Builders proves that people in the same company know how to appeal to their old fans while still keeping things fresh and are at least somewhat successful in doing so. Why the Square half of the company doesn't seem to know what the hell they are doing I have no idea but I do know they need to fucking fire Tabata, Lightning's husbando, and Belt ans Zipper Man and the sooner the better. I live in horrified suspense that they are going to revive the Mana or Chrono series' ant proceed to massively shit all over them.
James Gutierrez
Pokemaniacs, NepNepers, And SMTfags would like to have a word with you.
Colton Lee
Point is there's no way to please everyone all the time and at this point I'm just happy to see they're still trying. I'm particularly defensive since the 13 trilogy was goat (imho) yet routinely gets shit on here by the vast majority of anons.
Ian Garcia
what the masses want is a good looking cinematic game that deals with "issues" in lieu of good storytelling with a massive marketing budget.
The reason AAA games are watered down is so they can market to as many demographics as possible.
The reason turn based rpgs don't appeal to the masses is because the combat tends to break the cinematic feel, and a more active combat system is easier to market.
Nolan Murphy
You're a homosexual. I don't mean this as a pejorative, but you are either gay or asian.
Samuel Taylor
On a site filled with weeaboo trap porn addicts that should be a compliment, alas I'm neither. 13 had the best weapon design (name something better than then the gunblade) the best character design and overall the best aesthetic of any previous game. 13-2 had subjectively the best (or at least darkest) story and objectively the best soundtrack. 13-3 might have been weak in the other departments but the timer gave it a sense of urgency and tension that eventually paid off. Now with 15 they try to appease all the complainers, offering a mix of turn based strategy and action, freedom and ticking clock (no timer but you need to wrap things up before sunset) and anons STILL want to complain because it's not giving them the same buzz FF8 gave them when they were twelve. 13 was amazing, 15 is breddy gud (so far) and you would know this if you liked vidya at least as much as you do shitposting.
Luis Nguyen
When shitposting goes too far.
Adam Brooks
Oh, so you're shitposting. Got it.
John Reyes
Are you stupid or something?
Because marketing so stop answering your own question
We gotta beat Bahamut bro and make him our bro bro.
And let's play and watch Digimon: Adventures: Tamers: Frontier: Data Squad: Fusion: Appli mon: Cyber Sluts
Owen Lewis
Today I will remind them
Michael King
fucking hate this cliche
Nathaniel Edwards
Me too!!
Xavier Wright
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Leo Price
Might as well have them advertise fucking hot pockets.
Joseph Campbell
Cup Noodles is a real company/thing? I thought it was a generic brand they made up for the game or something. Sweet Jesus this is depressing…
Josiah Parker
Cup noodles is a real brand, yes.
Bentley Diaz
Cup Noodles is the Coca Cola of ramen brands. There's a ton of product placement in FFXV, such as "almost everything the playable characters are wearing"
Samuel Campbell
Sweet mother of blatant marketing.
Nathaniel Sullivan
Tidus' Brotherhood, sword literally made of water. Also 13's weapons have no iconic style, it's just a mishmash of mechanical parts.
The Buster Sword stood out, the Brotherhood stood out, and the Gunblade itself is actually better then whatever Lightining's carrying because it's clearly a gun shaped sword with a revolver handle, replacing the barrel with a blade.
Shiny and bloom as fuck as opposed to FF9's fantasy, FF7's gritty tech, FF6's steampunk before steampunk was a thing, and FF8's broad open landscape. FF13 was unfocused and bloated.
15 went for a realism setting, and it's honestly a better setting then whatever the fuck ff13 was.
Alexander Clark
Honest question. Are they even promoting an actual product here? Why do this?
Brayden Rivera
I should have read the thread before I posted this, , this is…. incredibly sad even for them. They have dug the pit so deep the tremors from the drills can't be detected anymore.
Camden Peterson
Somebody in a previous thread mentioned an American Express ad in the game. Is this true?
Jaxson Torres
yup its real, just saw it a few minutes ago pitful dispray
Angel Fisher
How many ads are in?
Asher Torres
People that designed the weapons in Final Fantasy games, and jRPGs in general, need to suffer a slow, painful and humiliating death.
Charles Reyes
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Liam Thomas
It's called an anthology you philistine.
Ryan Bailey
There's a lot more things you can buy IRL that's ingame/movie. But you'll need a bigger wallet.
Colton Ramirez
This wouldn't have bothered me if they didn't make a huge deal out of it. It's not like it's the first ad in an FF game, but it's so fucking in your face about it. It felt like I was watching a youtube celeb video.
Andrew Campbell
Same general theme. Barring the start of the cancer that was FFX-2. Each game was supposed to be the final great tale of their respective settings.
It's why the end game was you essentially punching god, or its equivalent, in the dick in some fashion.
In reality the original game was named "Final Fantasy" because it was squaresoft's last game if they didn't succeed. Because the company was going to go under. And they figured why not spend all our remaining capital on producing the best game we can. So they made FF1 and it was a big success. So they ended up staying afloat and going with the whole "last story of each setting" thing… until FFX, and then FF13: Armpit fetishist simulator happened.
James Hughes
I always thought each final fantasy was a story about dead protagonists showing their 'what if we can save the world' either by flashbacks or revived by the crystal magic.
Jaxon Sanders
They had to make back all the money they wasted making this game in some form or fashion. So they went with a modern setting so they could push shit like ramen and credit cards.
Jeremiah Torres
seems like he's been
defaced
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Kevin Jackson
I would trade my car for a horse
Julian Garcia
Asset reuse and brand recognition. Same general framework of gameplay, same item names, just throw in a different cast of characters and story, and they don't get called out for games being too samey. It's easier to develop.
Jack Smith
This shit pisses me even when stated ironically because it is so retardedly lazy.
Oliver Walker
You know what pisses me off? Roman numerals. Your game isn't better by it, they don't make the name look ebin and all they do is make numbers harder to fucking read. There's a reason roman society collapsed and it is because they couldn't count shit since numbers came so unaturally