Winning over military

Gotta come with a something that appeals to their patriotism.

Frankly I'd start with the vets. Especially the homeless ones.

I guess the illusion of American democracy placates their revolutionary desires, as it does in nearly every nation with gerrymandered bourgeoise elections.

lol

milcucks really are delusional morons

Are you guys visiting Holla Forums shitposters or are you for real?

what the hell does that mean?

Thread titled how do we get the military on our side.

I mean if you think shitting on veterans is a winning strategy by all means go ahead, but why don't you go out and try it out in person for me?

and what does that have to do with my post demonstrating that the ideology that "everyone is against me" is false and outright stupid?

a vet friend of mine is a dedicated anti-war demsoc who came out of the war thinking "this is fuckin stupid"

Mane what shit have you been through in your life?

do you have answer to my question or would you prefer to keep deflecting?

If we really want to be able to radicalize the military we need another draft and then we can subvert vietnam war style. The closest thing to this is the poverty draft which means there are a lot of poor people who go into the armed forces bc lack of prospects maybe they could become class conscious

Until then we are either dealing w what are essentially mercenaries

When did you guys realise that ending conscription was a mistake?

Guerilla warfare
Sabotage
Infiltration
Assassination
Hostile takeovers of tactical locations (ie NORAD)

The usual stuff

T. I previously felt like everyone in the world was against me whether rational or not, but give me a break, I've been through some shit and ended up homeless as a lot of veterans do. Now that someone reached out to me I'm coming to see the irrationality of my previous beliefs, thank you, thank you very much.

Also a lot of vets don't like being thanked for their service. It's not a vanity thing, but you would know that if you were the kind of person who ever faced any kind of hardships in their life.

and what does that have to do with Holla Forums and/or shitposting?

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classic milcuck arrogance. you are not special

and what does that have to do with Holla Forums and/or shitposting?

>classic milcuck arrogance

t. milcuck hypocrite

What the fuck Americans. Why do you put military personal on a pedestal?

They're fucking fodder. You know it, and deep down they know it.

I'm not and have never been in the military retard. I'm just someone with military friends. Thread is titled "Hey how do I make some more military friends Holla Forums?"

So I give some pro-tips on how to make some more military friends.

MILCUCK! MILCUCK! MILCUCK!

I mean I don't know, just something in me tells me, you're not going to get many military personnel on your side with that slogan.

But I don't know. Try it, maybe it will work.

lol, you can say the same thing about the south in general.
Here is your paradox lefty faggots.
All the poor and impoverished people love guns and Jesus and reside in rural areas, they have no college education, and they think all leftism is the youtube videos they see of sjw's wanting safe spaces and being offended at everything.

On the other side, all the liberals and leftists live in the populated urban areas, the east and west coast, are highly educated to the point they treat their education as something that makes them superior to lowerclass people, they work in the entertainment industry, live in gated communities and gentrified areas, and are generally out of touch and not self aware enough to realize what a bunch of hypocritical faggots they are, oh, and every time they talk about revolution, everyone laughs because liberals have spent the last 50 something years shitting on guns.

Er no. Obviously. That's why you have to use guerilla tactics, and make their numbers count for nothing.

you have an uncanny ability to just ignore every point presented to you and instead respond with empty non sequiturs

Glass houses, stones, etc.

Now I know you are either retarded or just shitposting.

t. milcuck hypocrite

Here's a direct logical proposition for you: I am not in the military, that's just an assumption you made, now, knowing that fact, where is the post where I say you should be nicer to me, AKA the guy typing these words right now?

Can you just answer that direct question?

Except when they don't.

I happen to be very poor
I happen to be an outdoors manual laborer for minimum wage, if I'm lucky
I happen to have to walk to and from work every day
I happen to live in the deep south of Mississippi

And I need the removal of both state and capitalism if I am ever going to have a better life. I'm not LARPing, or armchair philosiphizing, I NEED the revolution and I will gladly join in the fight and even die if need be to see it take place.

it's a perfectly apt and succinct response to a demand for cordiality from someone who's spent most of the thread denigrating strangers for their inadequate "hardships"

i suppose your "you catch more flies with honey" image meant to impart a different meaning. my mistake

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Start a radical anti-capitalist party. Use money you get from donations and other sources to fund police unions and military charities. That's how you win over the police.

You spend half the thread going 'lmoa milcuck' and you expect any sympathy from me?

Fuck off back to /r9k/ where you belong.

Seconded.

another puzzling non sequitur. the last thing i want from you is sympathy
p.s. the fact that you get this angry over even minor criticism of the military and its rubes really shows your true colours. keep licking that boot

The crippling autism is just another sign you belong in /r9k/ user :(

you share the same delusion so you might as well be the same idiot. feel free to keep deflecting though

Bump. :)

keep crying, milcuck

prove any of your claims

So brave, so very brave. For the record I was the one who posted the veteran photos not .

yeah, just like all those poor soldiers who invade third world countries on behalf of concentrated power. they're the real victims :^)

Motherfucking Holla Forums get out.

who mentioned Holla Forums? you are seriously mad

For once I fail to see the Holla Forums here

You just have absolutely point except to sabotage this thread and potentially the board and whatever larger movements people are trying to organize and discuss here, for your supposed vitriol at the soldiers.

However, this thread was not titled 'Military: Like or dislike?"

But your posts reek of "Hurry-dee-durr let me give my best impression of an unpatriotic commie traitor lol lol lolol XD XD XD"

impression? rofl. i am proudly unpatriotic, a communist, and a traitor (a traitor to what? "muh country"? lol). you are just absolutely livid that someone won't conform to your cancerous "support the troops" ideology.

this board is devoted to the discussion of radical politics and alternative views. if you're shocked by dissident opinions, you're probably in the wrong place

>>>Holla Forums

wow. where did i mention anything to do with jews and/or israel? you must be seeing things

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Do you know anyone in the military?

Yes, you are very proud. And no I'm not shocked. I really don't even know what to call this feeling.

Do you have any self reflection by the way?

it's called "being spooked as fuck"

I guess I'll consider that an answer. Good night.

Not him, but my sister is a cop

And I dream every night of roasting piggies

My father was in the navy, as well as my great grandfather

But if I had the chance, I'd fight against every imperialist american soldier I could

thanks for conceding. don't come back

You sounds like a swell lad Hitler dubs.

Pyrrhic, the sweetest of victories.

next time get your soldier boyfriends to help you

Viva la revolución, comrade!

Good night.

indeed. pity your soldier friends will fight to stop it

Can't tell if parody or…. I'm going stop digging.

dig a hole and bury yourself in it

The American military is way too far gone IMO. I don't believe it's hyperbole to describe it as legitimate brainwashing.

The UK military, even though it's pretty right-wing can definitely be convinced.

I wonder what chomsky has to say about this?

Do you know where the term 'redneck' came from? lol.

The 'hillbilly' states used to be the most communist/unionised, and it can happen again.

youtube.com/watch?v=AhxNil255fA

*I dont

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or like, we just get rid of war?
can we do that?
sometimes you are worse than Holla Forums…

youtube.com/watch?v=yixdveuf0GQ

I'm pretty sure that goes without saying on this board.

This.

You can't win them over and they aren't reactionary either. They too want an ideology that has never existed for them.

The only hope is to make sure the working class is won over but the working class hates the left now even more than either thanks to the modern left using idpol to alienate them like never before.

This is why you need to drop the Marx crap and adopt Sorelian values of socialism. The power of myth is vital.

The military is organized around socialist outlines. No, there is no worker control, but worker control is retarded anyway. Instead, officers command in the name of their soldiers instead of exploiting them. Instead of an exploitative market, the military has an internal command economy.

The military is a little piece of socialism that porky uses to protect himself. We need to take the military back guys and create a badass image for socialism instead of a soft image.

War could be turned to socialist ends too. Socialist Imperialism is the best strategy to beating porky. In a world state, you can't have capital flight, so capitalism can defeated everywhere. The best way to establish a socialist world state is to take over the US military and then invade and take over all the other countries making them part of the Empire, and threatening China and Russia with nukes so they can't fight you while you're doing it. Contrary to stupid leftists, imperialism is good, and the best way to world government, which is necessary to establish socialism.

Imperial Socialism is the new ideology of Holla Forums. Move over faggoty Marx, and move over bullshit anarchism.

Leftists who are against cops and soldiers need to be thrown off bridges. They are tools of porky.

This as well.

The military isn't all that big.

If we got our own guys to join en masse, we'd make up a significant portion of it pretty fast.

You idiots aren't even trying.

made me think

That's the cops though. In civil war a good chunk of the military often joins the revolution.

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That is a minor issue, the biggest issue is how do we become soldiers ourselves.

I think lots of us share the prejuices of thinking that guns are for guys with small dicks, military uniforms and lifestyle are super gay and the supposed badassery that many admire or claim to practice is a myth that betas tell to validate themselves.

And I'm not going to renounce to these prejuices but there is a historical and material need to arm ourselves and fight.
We don't need soldiers, we will become soldiers.

yeah, like the freikorps, or the allende overthrow

Beyond simple proselytizing/propaganda, which always works but at a tremendously low pace, I can see only two things that would convert armed forces: a massive institutional crisis, or officer indoctrination by foreign socialists. The latter is out of the question now, and it was hardly desirable anyway seeing as it's imperialistic and the USSR's and PRC's systems sucked.

So other than soapboxing, all we can do is wait for a crisis, I'm afraid. Lenin argued against adventurism, didn't he?

I'm a soldier, and while most are reactionary, they are not as set-in as you would think they are. They just don't know any better. The few that post shit like in the OP are just retards and use bravado to look tougher than they know they are.

I say that if you want to get soldiers to join you, it would be best to take care of veterans first. Anyone appreciates help when they need it.

This!

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I think a lot of conscripts agree with some sort of basic rules around "right to arm yourself", but they don't understand how the current military-industrial complex is just a massive pyramid scheme, and is extremely inefficient.

And most are very reactionary from what I've experienced.

dat vpl

it looks like im seeing into my computer

You know that these are liberal demoralization strategies right? Originally socialists didn't have these sorts of hipstery views or feel the need to counter-signal masculinity for no reason whatsoever. Porky wants you to think being strong and good with a gun is for "overcompensating fags" (what's wrong with being a fag? get out Holla Forumsyp!) or some stupid shit.

No

Girls only like guns when they can personally pose with them to get more likes on their photos

I wish I was chad because I'm ugly enough that girls would get creeped out if I said shit like this

Ultimate hypebeast coming in

you need three more, son.

Nuremberg Trial judges clearly disagree. Take it up with them.

Inciting hatred and mass murder is a serious enough crime, especially in light of y'know, the whole Holocaust and everything. Calling for people to be beaten, robbed and murdered and then driving around in their cars, wearing their jewellery and clothing, and not even trying to hide the fact, is a crime in any civilized place. It was also a crime under the 3rd Reich – confiscated Jew stuff was state property, not for personal loot cellars. Streicher was punished for this during his time in power, too.

Streicher wasn't the worst of the bunch really, but he didn't aid his case by being such a loudmouthed cunt. Nothing of value was lost.

Not an argument. Show me where I or anyone said such a thing. Judges were from all victor countries. If the Soviet judges had had their way, every single plaintiff would have been hanged.

That's because the gubmint is paying their way. They're all welfare queens. Their paycheck requires that they believe the US empire is a good thing. They cannot be won over to the left at any appreciable scale.

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I think I might be one of the only people who didn't feel any desire to roll him around or see him suffer, and I generally think it was a mistake to put such a thing in the game. It's very "What do you think of that!?" in like a mean and vengeful way. Like some player would be like "yeah you got what was coming to you!" when that is absolutely not what justice is about.

It just seems extremely childish that someone would be satisfied with that happening to him. You shouldn't be wishing any kind of suffering on anybody.

I think Schadenfreude is a mental illness, it's something very sick that diminishes us as sentient living creatures.

Remember when that guy showed that people with higher SAT scores preferred them to Kanye and Queen?

You will never, ever find that.

jesus

That's the most retarded thing I have read today.

Why would you wear it as a badge of honor? I grew up on government cheese and I hated it. Growing up one of the few Whites in a Latino trailer park was hell.

You must be an illegal our extremely stupid to work for such low wages. Even entry level warehouse work or general labor for a construction site is $1-$2 more than minimum wage.

If you quit your under minimum wage job and worked somewhere else, you would have some money to save for a beat up truck. I bought a '99 Tacoma with 150,000 on it. A/C and radio don't work so I got it for a steal at $1,500

Please die then. I got kicked out at 18 and I'm doing ok for 22 years old. Rent a room, own a truck and saving little by little. I'm into socialism just because poor people need a hand in life but they shouldn't be carried by the government.

You need to make better choices.

So any new evidence so far?

Sounds like role playing OP

what

I giggled like an idiot. Well done