Let's talk about Pokémon and the majority of their designs, Holla Forums. The first image is now more relevant than ever before, It appears it's not a problem with the things they're based on, but the execution and STREAMLINING of said Pokémon, compared to the detail and effort that was put into them before. This has happened since Gen 2, but has improved in gen 3, then went back to being simple in 4+, for the most part.
screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188922 As you can see here, the detail from Vulpix, to the Alolan Vulpix has watered down significantly, see; paws, tail, stomach, snout, ears, etc. Further proof of said streamlining can be seen with other Pokemon as well. So, that being said, how would you, the artist, re-design and improve the currently existing and/or future Pokémon, along with series as a whole.
Hire a furry artist and tell them to draw everything in his own style.
Someone like Guoh maybe?
Cooper James
OKAY user, you have to remember, this is an E-Rated game.
If this was M-Rated on the other hand…
Oliver Garcia
good style
Adrian Murphy
E rating on image boards means Explicit, so technically…
Besides furry art is only a swipe with the eraser away from modesty.
Jaxon Anderson
Make every Pokemon a bland orange dragon, a dog and a combination of 3 Pokemon.
Connor Harris
S-stop that.
Jason Powell
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Owen Morgan
They'll look the exact same then, there will be no difference. Look at gardevoir, she's not lewd or anything, but she's a fan-favorite for being porned and such.
Anthony Morris
Mexican Rats and Normal Rats are both gud ones tho.
Of course Rattata and Raticate were basically my favourite line in Gen 1, so im biased.
Wyatt Hughes
That's the point, is it not?
Get a single person to redesign it all. Embrace the lewd.
Daniel Brown
Yeah, I know user, that's why I said most. I know each gen has a batch of really good designs, with very good execution!
Landon Walker
Everything else is OK, but dat Absol is trash.
Jose Taylor
Hey user, try taking a later gen pokemon and designing it back the way gen 1 would. It's fun and it makes autists rage because they have no justification for why their shitty favourites need to have so many random stripes and spikes.
Carson Brown
I'm tired of furfags doing this shit and derailing vidya discussion. Why does Mark allow this?
Levi Hughes
Can someone do a chart like in 4th pic but with pokegirls? I don't have MS Paint or the autism needed to analyze it
Xavier Mitchell
WOWWW IT'S SO DIFFERENT!!! At least post the garchomp one that actually has meaningful changes.
Matthew Edwards
Report it, if you don't like it. As I recall, three or more porn images, spoilered or not, breaks the rules.
I'll do it when I get better, I need to keep lurking >>>/loomis/
Jack Ward
Shit man, I did that in paint.
I know right? I barely did anything and its twice as good. Just goes to show that there's some talent still left in Game Freak buried under the crap. :^)
Blake Miller
because it bothers you
Leo Ortiz
I feel a little guilty for liking that gen one garchomp better than the spiked one.
It looks cleaner.
Noah Stewart
amazing style, would fuck
Austin Morgan
Three or more posts
This one is just fine
Adrian Robinson
Well the main point someone brought up to me is "gen 1" garchomp doesn't look like a dragon. It looks like a water/flying type, while gen 5 charizard looks like a dark type. Well, I did agree with them, but if Litten's evolution turns out to be dark/fighting then I'm just going to take anyway any credit I would have given.
Matthew Turner
It's 3+ posts, not 3+ images.
The question was how to improve pokemon designs.
I even chose an artist that does everything the OP wants from Pokemon designs.
Jace Hughes
It's Fire/Dark. A starter can't be anything else (un)fortunately.
Gotcha.
Isaiah Peterson
GEN V VERSION
Bentley Rodriguez
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Dominic Nguyen
Shit, meant fire/fighting. I'm hoping it turns out fire/dark. They haven't released the type of the evos yet, have they?
Luis Parker
can i get a job at nintendo now?
Nicholas Murphy
Pretty fucked / 10
Also for the reason I came to the thread, what's with this no Gym thing with sun and MOOM, friend messaged me saying this makes it new and fresh now but I'd imagine it just replaced them with something that's the exact same but different name.
Juan Ortiz
It is Fire/Dark!! user, It's based on a Heel. This means you can tell your friend to shove it. I forgot where I saw it, but it was official. SHIT.
Fucking hell, you probably can if you can make a blank slate and then just add random cosmetic changes to the fucking thing.
Andrew Cook
Hired fam
Anthony Hughes
It's also a luchador, so it could still be fighting.
Michael Rivera
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Jackson Peterson
Honestly, I'd prefer a middle ground garchomp, with the shape of gen 1 garchomp and the coloring of gen 4 garchomp to make it look appropriate for its typing.
Also, there's plenty of nicely-done stuff, like the vulpix and sandshrew line or eggsecutor.
Dammit, why is gf so obsessed with fire/fighting? I'd have loved to have a feline answer to houndour and houndoom.
Samuel Cook
They wouldn't be retarded enough to release a fourth fire/fighting starter.
Please don't answer that
Brody Clark
You just answered the same question, basically. Shin Megami Tensei needs better writing I fucking loved soul hackers I wanna fuck the Apocalypse MC
It's Dark, user, I recommend you rub it in your friends face immediately. Then laugh at them harder when the game comes out.
Kevin Price
Yeah I'd rather not rely on gramefreak doing something interesting with a starter only to end up ridiculed by friends who said it was just going to be another fire/fighting.
John Moore
Alright, user, but I told you so.
James Rogers
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David Sanchez
Yup, especially 4 and 4 final, most of the games could also try to not make every decision look obviously black or white.
Devil summoner translation never :^/
It's a dude so you're aware
Colton Bell
What if shiny litten's palette was black/orange
sweet fuck
Eli Allen
S T O P
Gabriel Foster
It worked the first two times :^)
It had better writing, then Atlus decided to shit the bed in favour of waifufagging OP is gay, big fucking surprise
Tetsuo Hara go back to bed
Ayden Allen
I agree, I'd like it to not feel so fucking linear for once, just hire better writers, maybe the ones from Super Paper Mario or FE, hell, even the same ones from the PSX era would do it more than enough justice.
There's so much shit I'm missing out on, I'm considering learning nip.
>It's a dude so you're aware That's exactly why I wanna fuck him He looks like a submissive faggot fuck that would bite his lips as he bounces on you, asking, "You like that?!~"
sage for off-topic.
Had. Had better writing, HAD. H A D Blame the Jewpenese.
Bentley Fisher
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Dominic Ramirez
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Jace Howard
Every fucking time. We need to kill furries already.
Ethan Moore
The head things bug me. Is it meant to be a hammer head shark? They have their eyes on the 'hammer'.
Bentley Sullivan
Still looks VERY good.
I'm starting to get sad, the right looks miles better than the bland official one.
Angel Mitchell
why don't you ask nintendo to stop? oh right, you'll pay them 60 bucks for their next piece of shit.
Angel Butler
I haven't given Pokemon any money since Heartgold/Soulsilver. Black(2)/White(2) were good, but not 40$ good.
Zachary Wright
Yes, that's what i said They just woke up the gay, you always were one. Otherwise you would have played Digimon
Nigger you may overract a lil' bit
I don't care if Junji Ito is your secret identity, you still need to go to bed
Nicholas Walker
I just added the head things back in since it just looked too dopey to me without it and Charizard also has head things anyway. I don't really like them either, the perspective on the one behind it's head always bugged me.
I was going for that.
Aaron Ross
Tried fiddling around with what that other guy started.
Jose Allen
There's one for Vita with an chinglish translation, I wonder how good it is! I'm going to download it right now, then I'll pray the gay away., I'm actually bi, but enough about this I want to talk about Pokemon.
Wait, YOU did it!? That's awesome! Shit, I wonder what you can for Sylveon, Abomasnow or the ugly piece of shit that is Barbaracle, now I'm curious.
Ryder Hughes
Now it just looks like a hairy, six-eyed spinarak. I want to see where this goes
Ryder Jenkins
you cant just add thick black outlines to everything
David Gomez
Moar liek alolan spinarak, amirite?
Isaiah Flores
FUCK I forgot that I was supposed to add THIS to the OP.
Now I want to delete this thread, but I'll wait it out for a few weeks, then make another.
Cameron Gutierrez
oh but i can
and i can sell it to idiots for 60$ a pop every 2 years
Brody Harris
you cant just add thick black outlines to everything
Joseph Thompson
oh but i can
and i can sell it to idiots for 60$ a pop every 2 years
Easton Hernandez
Uuuuh, thicker?
Nathaniel Edwards
Lugia is perfect.
Daniel Jenkins
Just to be clear, I only added the eyes and headpieces back in. Don't zoom into them or you'll see the mess.
Jose Hall
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Ayden Mitchell
Gen 1 designs were simpler because the less powerful hardware forced them to be. Anything super detailed would either look like garbage or the detail wouldn't be visible at all. Also notice how a lot of gen 1 pokemon share design aspects. Rhydon, lapras and nidoqueen have the exact same head.
Ethan Long
cheeky fucker
Liam Gutierrez
More like this
please
Isaiah Wilson
Not only that, but it affected color schemes as well. A pokemon would need to have two distinct colours to make use of the black and white palette, but at the same time any colours that were similar to eachother (such as blue and purple) would appear the same in the sprite.
Isaac Hernandez
Would actually redeem it then
Levi Harris
Not big surprise
Charles Hughes
Well, it's ruined now.
Owen Roberts
Digimon?
Owen Hall
Last 2 images are blatant shitty bait from a cherrypicking faggot.
Ayden Roberts
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Hudson Morgan
The first one can be argued but the second is literally pointing out a fact. It's not 100% accurate but there's no denying that gen 5 rehashed a lot of gen 1 designs and concepts.
Henry Powell
THICKER
Samuel Howard
At least he kept the good ones.
Oliver Cruz
The eyes are definitely better, but I still prefer the original for some reason.
Lincoln Phillips
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Josiah Green
The part that really gets me pissed is calling Haxorus a fucking Dragonite rehash as well as for the fossils.
That's just one of the examples that make it shit.
Andrew Allen
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Juan Gonzalez
that picture fucking crashed my browser what the fuck
Ryan Perez
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Grayson Sanders
nigger, your pic crashed my browser
Caleb Cook
I liked Unova, but I'm not defending ice cream Pokemon.
the image loaded fine for me are you guys using Chrome?
Caleb Rivera
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James White
The guy you replied to was being sarcastic, the image he posted was neogaf inspired.
Cooper Bennett
What if Lucario was proud of his power?
Carter Lopez
Too much time spent on this shit already.
Robert Reed
Now its got the lines on its back again, and the tufts and stripes don't match. They should all be a similar colour for consistency, with only the eyes standing out.
Joseph Barnes
I would have preferred a more tiger-like final evolution instead of a bipedal one but this is fine.
Tyler Smith
What were the last two pics?
Were they all done by Guoh?
Jonathan Turner
I want the gays to leave
Adrian Campbell
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Oliver Sanders
female or fuck off
Anthony Perry
Yeah, you had to spoiler that because you're insecure in your beliefs. Gays get into the oven. Even more so if they're furries.
Elijah Mitchell
Pokémon is the chess of our time.
Jackson Adams
Durant by all accounts could basically be a gen 1 or 2 Pokemon.
Ian Evans
Is this the thread where I ask
WHICH POKEMON WOULD YOU FUG?
Josiah Stewart
Am I sensing a new hotpocket meme.
Brody Stewart
>I wanna fuck the Apocalypse MC user no, do not stick your dick in crazy.
Charles Sanders
Why yes, I do. Although there's some overlap with shit designs and shit pokemon, to be honest.
Hudson Sanders
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Adrian Lee
Conclusion: Ken Sugimori is overrated, Atsuko Nishida was the real hero of Gen1.
Now the real question is who designed Rattata?
David Hall
fucking beautiful user, keep going.
Jordan Rivera
I need to fap and sleep, I have work in the morning.
Sebastian Peterson
Would also cuddle.
Aiden Parker
Either way, I will await your return to do more shitty edits.
Jaxon Davis
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Jason Collins
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Jordan Ross
more proof that progress isn't always a good thing
Nathan Howard
Easily the most generic and most animal-like. Its also the gen with the most fillers When they began getting more creative, the designs themselves are still limited by the hardware, however Easily some of the best Pokemon designs with possiblly the least filler of any gen. Creative enough to not be generic but also subtle enough to be believable Designs more subtle than later gens but getting a bit more creative When GF started outsourcing Pokemon designs, its shit, might as well be Digimon Extremely forgettable A return to form from Gen 3 with a lot more subtlty this time around. Quite possibly the best Pokemon designs in years
Jace Williams
The problem with the parody image is the lack of round shapes.
Gabriel Gomez
wat
Brody Gomez
Please fuck off back to halfchan thanks
Dylan Parker
Oftentimes having to work with restrictions results in more creativity and effort being put into a product. Either way the designs were better, why/how they were that way is irrelevant to the topic
Wyatt Allen
Don't entertain it. It's what he wants.
Connor Thompson
wew shill
Ethan White
Wut? Did you even look at the image in op?
Adrian Morales
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Jason Robinson
weeeeeeeeeeeww
Alexander Foster
Are we geing raided? Holy shit
Colton Baker
Yes. The raid started sometime near the end of 2014 and hasn't stopped since.
James Moore
kek
TOP KEK
Jackson Clark
Get out reddit.
Austin Baker
You're probably more familiar with Reddit than I.
John Foster
you're too obvious.
Joseph Hill
Yeah that's cool and all but does anyone wanna design some MS Paint Pokemon?
Somebody give me two objects and I'll make a pokeman
Ian Cook
OK
Sebastian Gutierrez
Gecko Kitchen knife
Jose Edwards
Gecookie evolves!
Nolan Lee
Oh fuck.
Ryder Brooks
I'm drunk
FEED ME MORE
Connor Brooks
I like how this one imitated the original coloring/shading style too.
Grayson Gonzalez
Where's the next gen porn?
Grayson Scott
I can fight it. Taking down edgy wannabe-psycho kids and pounding them into pussified submissive scene boys is my fetish Although I haven't executed that idea, I hope to someday, I'm tired of this stupid "he's so edgy, emo and CURAZEEEEE" stereotype I just want to fuck the shit out of them
I think emboar is fine, for the most part. I just wish he didn't get ragged on for being yet another fire/fight type, I do understand the frustration though.
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
That's why I said majority user, not all. I fucking love my Darmanitan. I agree as well, they needed to add some circles and simple shapes.
Cocaine Elephant Cocainelephant
Lincoln Thompson
You're pretty good.
Gavin Allen
Mouse. Pneumatic hammer.
Jack Allen
MOAR
Landon Sanders
Pig Ice
Angel Morris
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Adrian Myers
First image makes the complaint that newer pokemon are overdesigned pieces of shit. Fourth image makes the complaint that newer pokemon are underdesigned pieces of shit.
Gen wars are as bad as console wars.
Mason Edwards
How does that mouse even resemble a fucking pneumatic hammer? You could have at least gave him a building hardhat. Don't be so fucking lazy lad.
Jordan Johnson
What eyes? Now to make the tufts on the legs the same colour as any other tuft for consistency and then change eyes around again since it looks too much like another Pokemon I can't remember the name of. With now, I mean I probably won't.
Jonathan Watson
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Brandon Brooks
Newer Pokemon have less significant, naturalistic detail, and more cosmetic, deviant-art-tier detail.
Hudson Fisher
Check the filename.
Josiah Young
Pneumotic Moose. I don't get it.
Kayden Cruz
This one doesn't really work, the original had beady eyes and three smaller wings, the new one is just a purple and black King Ghidorah.
Jose Collins
It feels better, honestly. I agree to an extent, give it three batwings and we're set!
Nathaniel Powell
Still, in Gen 1 everything had those same angry eyes: Pincer, Kabutops, Aerodactyl, the beady eyes help it stand out from the rest.
I hate that Gamefreak doesn't do fur or feathers right anymore.
Wyatt Jackson
GIB ME MOAR POKEYMON TO DRAW
Robert Powell
Are you the Lugiafag that tried on his mic at the FullDerp threads? I will kick you 'ead it mate.
Joseph Bennett
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Brandon Powell
something's wrong here
Luke Green
WAit no I figured it out
Adam Nguyen
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Levi Anderson
fucking perfect
Brayden Rodriguez
Joke's on you, I like King Ghidorah. The gen1-style redesign just needs to ditch the hair/feathers and it would be golden.
I can see where you're coming from, and I can agree with you on the beady eyes. The fur/feathers on hydreigon are terrible though, nigger needs a shave.
Sebastian Barnes
le rurrs
Angel Hernandez
Yes. Just go to a furfag imageboard and look for: guoh pokemon
Jose Bennett
How can anyone defend that thing? it looks like a chinese knockoff.
Blake Lopez
Cancer
Jace Baker
You done did good user.
Not sure if retarded or intentional. I don't see how anyone can justify this design. Yeah I get it. He's a fighting type. The fires a cape. He's wearing clothes. He's still an over-designed piece of shit.
Ryder Young
Why can't these 2 get more porn compared to Blaziken?
Angel Cruz
fixed
Ethan Walker
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Brandon Peterson
Thanks for the pasta, friend.
Hunter Smith
I know what you are doing.
Liam Stewart
r8 my gen 5 poliwrath
you fucker.
Tyler Fisher
Send in a portfolio to see if they actually hire you
Daniel Wood
What the hell was wrong with Gen IV?
Asher Torres
Not sure if we are on the same page, but I meant the Gengar in the first image. A few tweaks and it will look a lot cooler.
Sebastian Phillips
im still mad that spiritomb isn't the pokemon n°444
Jordan Howard
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Jose Thomas
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Jacob Kelly
this piece of shit messed up the order of the last two
Juan Lewis
OKAY.
Brody Mitchell
What's so special about 444.
Justin Peterson
4 in Japanese is "shi", which also means death.
444=DEATHDEATHDEATH
Gabriel Wood
Damn. Thats cool. I wonder what 5 means
Parker Cruz
that's not how it works, it's just coincidence that 4 and death are pronounced the same. In fact 4 can also be said yon, so it isn't correlated directly at all.
Noah Young
best spider
Cooper Thompson
Best spider
Robert Perez
Fuck. I was hoping Darmanitan was something special.
Blake Martinez
I'm so glad the furfags are going to drown idiots like you out in a few weeks.
Isaiah Moore
A lot of gen 4 designs are shit user
The the ones you posted are exceptions
Also I love hoe people love Giratina's design desipite it being ultra edgy and overdesigned, it's a testament to how good a desigjn it is that people love it in spite of that
Connor Ortiz
You just have shit tastes fuckboi That's the only fact here.
Carson Stewart
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Christian Gomez
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Gavin Barnes
10/10 got me good
Nicholas Richardson
I was staring at that vulpix/alola comparison and i just understood why the new one looks so lifeless and fake It has no shading can someone competent shade it to make it more gen 1 like??
Jack James
furfags just have a garbage tier fetish would rather have their autism over retards
Connor Foster
It's funny how these threads never take into account the evolved forms of Pokemon. Nearly EVERY Pokemon, Gen 1 to current year, has a cute form for their first evolution. Their second form is always more badass. This shit is so fucking retarded. Charmander is the essence of cutesy shit by simplifying the dinosaur form down to a round head with a stupid dumb smile, but you know what? It evolves into a great design. The same goes for Delphox, arguably my least favorite starter ever next to the fucking fire pig thing I can't remember the name of.
Jordan Ortiz
daily reminder genwunners are delusional rightwing goyim who are happy with less
Elijah Sanchez
Honestly, there's not many Pokemon from Gen I I even give a fuck about and my first game was Yellow before any retarded faggots accuse me of being a Hoennbabby.
Overall the majority of Pokemon I love are from II, III and V and I personally consider IV the real lowest point of unappealing shit the series has ever gotten for the fact that while Unova inevitably had its shit with so many introduced at a single time, it at least had plenty of mons to like as well.
Bentley Howard
I agree to an extent, Unova is my favorite region, while Kalos is my least favorite. I'm no genwunner, I'm just noticing a pattern in simpler (but more cosmetic) Pokémon design compared to the last.
I told you so, motherfucker. I TOLD YOU SO.
Josiah Campbell
MY DICK!
Joshua Phillips
Please kill yourself
Asher Sanchez
ok
Ayden Richardson
somewhat disappointed that a shiny alolan persian is not orange.