Agree with everything the main villain says

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thats nice what did you want to talk about that's related to video games

video game villains

farcry 4 ?

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You can join the villain in Far Cry 4

But that video shows you join the good guy. The real villain is that dumb rebel whore.

Don't you have friends user?

Player character confirmed as edgy retard in the 'canon'

Perfect example

Not vidya but that was effectively my thought process watching Transcendence. And then they reveal the good guys were actually being dumbass luddite baddies. What a surprise!

We have one of these every week.

Forgot to sage, now I'm the fag.

But you are doing exactly what she wants at every turn.

The only thing you can't do is exactly what she'd like and please her constantly.

You're a stupid nigger I'll give you that

Fucking hell, that movie was the worst

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No.

So wait he is actually a genuinely chill guy who simply tells you to wait ,if you wait he simply takes you to where you want to go and explains everything to you in detail.

How is he the bad guy when he genuinely wanted to help you and you both find closure in the action and then wants to take you on tour that is /k/'s wet dream?

Fuck ubisoft

If you actually go with the rebels he keeps phoning and asking you to go back to him until your first large fight against his soldiers. Dude really considered you a friend.

Fuck, that's just heartbreaking.
I'd never do that to such an awesome warlord. Fuck rebels.

Do we need to have one of these threads every day?

Who's the good guy in OPM?

Armstrong did nothing wrong, fight me

WTF?!

Didn't stop his soldiers from trying to kill you after escaping though. Also seriously he had this thread yesterday

We*

You mean richest of course

If you take money from a rich man, he will become rich again.
If you give money to a poor man, he will become poor again.
So yeah, fittest become rich. If you're poorfag, it's your fault, and your alone.

The whole game was a giant red pill

And I still remember the writer spazzing out on twitter that people who didn't support socjus would hate it.

Well, they were under attack from rebels and most of them never saw you, of course if they saw a stranger running around they'd shoot.

Solidus did nothing wrong. He just wanted to make his mark on history as a free man.

I feel you man

The game already makes it obvious that by killing Solidus you just fucked the world, so he's not even the bad guy.

You're a complete and utter fucking retard.

pic very related

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He might be a crazy fuck but he kept shit stable and wanted to help you reunite the family and have a fun time going /k/ with you.

k

so no facts? ok

stay mad

Rich people tend to be smarter than poor people. Thus they have better jobs.

Would you like some Prepation H friend?

Study history a bit. I'm not your goddamn school teacher.

Not just any point in history, but HISTORY

fam

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>Is literally asleep at the wheel HA HA, PUNS
never go full n'wah

You were always the fag.

Facts are facts. No propaganda can change it.

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pagan wasn't his dad and was just as bad as the rest of them.

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this is you

Funny but hardly relevant

She's nothing like Rand you idiot

What is going on that webm?

MEGA DANGANRONPA 2 SPOILERS

Insanity is not an excuse to embark on a plan to kill everyone that isn't a dunmer or disagrees with you. Dagoth Ur did everything wrong.

a reporter from a news network apparently called kiro7 interviews a bunch of protestors on the streets while they answer her with things like "you guys are scum"

A shame.

Also the story behind Morrowind and the prophecy is really moving.

Exactly, DG3 was just a bad fanfiction.

Danganronpa

I mean, what is wrong with the protestors? Why are bieng such a group of faggots? The intention of doing that sort of shit to send a message, the only thing I see a buch of angry retards marching for no reason.

Griffithposting should be a bannable offense.

This! Ironically there's little difference between the reasoning of tribal human sacrifices and masterminds like veidt who sacrifice millions for the !chance! of peace, the idea of grinding up others for the good of the many has universal appeal.

It's completely ambiguous if the prophecy is legit or complete bullshit.

There are plenty of mods where you can join the Sixth house

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Because they have better education that their rich parents gave them, and are given better jobs by their rich parents and their friends.

About the smartest thing rich people do is constantly think of ways to fuck over people for more money, and convince them it's the fault of the jews/gays/blacks/muslims/whites instead so they don't realise who's fucking them in the ass in broad daylight.

That can be said about pretty much every lore story in TES.
Although there are quite a few hints that the Ashlander prophecy is the true version of what happened.

I need that doujin for research purposes.

lrn2reverseimagesearch newfag. Also, stop being a faggot.

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antifa are always retarded

Thanks user!

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I never played Farcry 4, but…
Is his version of the facts any true?

I'm still not over this. I could write entire papers over how this character is not only the classic example of a "strawman gone horribly wrong" (see: the dad from Assigned Male, who had to be written out of the comic due to too many readers sympathizing with him), but an unintentional window into the writer's psyche and what a rotten person she must be IRL in order to write something like this. We said it many times but I will happily say this once more

FUCK ALTO, TEAGAN DID NOTHING WRONG

jej

lurk moar.

Alto is an abuse victim, you aren't allowed to criticise her.

Thanks anons!

guess you're just going to have to pick a site that might have doujins on it and then search some key words

He's completely correct.

Ajay's father Mohan was a massive cunt and a warmonger. He's actually a hero of the Golden Path in the game purely because he killed so many of Pagan Min's men. He also killed Ajay's sister and was the reason why Ajay and his mother left Kyrat.

"Lakshmana" is revealed later in the actual game as the player's dead sister. And the reason you're bringing your mother's ashes was she wanted them united.

A lot of this information isn't revealed until much, much later on in the actual game.

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Solidus is, and always was, the only villain that didn't do anything wrong.

Jesus Christ you cunt you could've just said "I don't have it" instead of acting all high and mighty over a fucking doujin.

i just looked them up. literal cucks who need masks and are race traitors. i would have been the first motherfucker to brick the reporter.

See

You're a big guy.

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When all else fails, use tineye.

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Thanks m8.

>>>Holla Forums

Yeah, Far Cry 3 was fun

Not what I had in mind

Jason's kind of stupid but it's hard to really classify any of the atagonists as "in the right". It's one of those vidya stories that could've been way better if they rewrote huge parts of it, like completely getting rid of Hoyt and making Vaas the sole antagonist. It feels like they built the Hoyt part of the game first and Vaas was an afterthought until much later when they came up with the brilliant idea of making him mentally deranged but didn't have enough time to actually focus on it.

But the rich are the jews.

Reported for obvious kike shill.

Fucking Ubishit even when they do something right they fuck it up

Yeah, that's because Vaas was a last minute addition because everyone liked the voice actor so much.

What the fuck kind of retarded shit is this, this is talking about video games. How is talking about video game villains not talking about video games?

Vaas was even less important originally. The actor that played him did a such good job that even the developers werent expecting that, so the character ended up looking more important that he was suposed to be but Ubisoft being lazy as usual didnt explore that.

Far Cry 3 has one of those vidya stories that has all of the parts to be really good but the way it's executed is really sloppy

Like for instance

If they actually rewrote the storyline and shifted the focus it could've been akin to an Apocalypse Now sort of deal with a charismatic psychotic villain and an actual character arc for the protagonist. But it ends up just being a really awkward road trip story featuring pirates.

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Well one of the morals and intentions of the writers of farcry 3 is "guns are bad m'kay".

And the story kind of undermines this because it doesn't focus on it. It doesn't portray Vaas as a villain because of guns, it actually paints Setra as being the reason why Vaas became more and more mentally deranged.

If anything it paints women as being negative influences on men. If anything if you take the bad ending at face value the main character kills his girlfriend and brother for pussy

Trump lost 900m once and made it back

That's an example and not a fact?

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I really, really fucking wish they released DLC that made this user canon (and in my mind, it is canon) but, I wish they gave you DLC that let you crush the dirty rebels under your heel.

Because once you play the game, you learn that your biological father was a fucking piece of shit, your mother was a decent person and Min was a pretty alright guy.

Also, when you think about it, the events leading up to dinner (him stabbing his own man, and then stabbing the terrorist) aren't even that bad.

The guy that he killed very clearly fucked up, people a number of people at risk by lighting up the van (with his possible step-son on it, and risking the lives of civilians) so him fucking MURDERING the guy who fucked up makes sense.

and not only that, but the guy at dinner was texting a known terrorist organization WHILE eating said dinner, and fucking deserved it.

The part about the abduction of children sounds about right but the nitpicking over the fact that he accomplished it by being rich is retarded. If you're going to topple the government on top of the entire military industrial complex then I doubt you would be able to accomplish that being a homeless blind quadruple paraplegic that nobody likes living in the middle of fucking desert. If the whole point is to use the military industrial complex against itself then being super rich is a given. Plus, what I fail to see here is how the intended goal has gone from anarchy to "just don't call it government", all I see is some retard interpreting survival of the fittest as being survival of the guy with the biggest muscles.
I know I am being an aspie here but Sam didn't have a cyborg body, in the game it is stated that he reached that point entirely through his own abilities meaning it is possible to reach that level but simply next to impossible.

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Well shit son, guess Britain needs to watch out before I go take what was rightfully stolen from me and my family.
To a degree you're right however life generally doesn't go that way even the best of men can fall to the harshness of this world.

RECLAIM YOUR THRONE FAGGOT.

PAY FOR YOUR BIRTHRIGHT IN SKULLS AND BLOOD.

PILE THE BODIES OF CUCKS TOWARDS YOUR DESTINY.

Dragonfall was a pretty good game.

I doubt the Brits want a mongrel Amerimutt with an Irish last name, fuck it, if a man with the family name Tudor could get into power (Tudor was a common as fuck Welsh name) so can I.

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The story for Morrowind is a lot deeper than most people give it credit for, and has a lot of thinly veiled references to world history. But to be fair saying Dagoth Ur dindu nuffin is kind of bullshit considering he went mad with power harnessing the heart of lorkhan to rebuild the numidium which was said to be cursed and basically created a fucking time paradox after daggerfall, and was infecting the land with blight to turn everyone into a corprus zombie.

Also that game was prophetic in regards to meme magic with the bits about the tribunal only having god like powers because people believed they were powerful. Fucking love that game.

Tiber Septim used Numidium too, creating a time paradox as well, but he was seen as a hero and even as a god when he achived CHIM.

Yeah that's the only thing that's bugging me about Dagoth Ur, but I think his zombies are actually sleepers, and they can wake up from their zombie form if I remember correctly.
Anyway Dagoth Ur still has a fair goal, and he will always stay one of my favorite villains

Do you even need to ask?

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You don't have shit. If you had a claim to the throne comparable to Henry Tudor you would be a claimant to the throne of England, but only after 1707 did Great Britain even exist which prompted an entire new line of succession.

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Yeah I agree with you on that great villain, never played the 6th house mod but at any rate in regard to the op he was at least pretty objectively evil. But imo the warp in the west that occurred after the events of daggerfall (aside from being the only way to retcon all the different possible endings of that game) also illustrates how the victors write the history books. I like how the lore you find in different books kind of hints that there are differing accounts of what actually happened, not just with the Neravarine prophecy but also Beranziah and the Imperial conquests.

The sleepers were essentially dunmer that were more susceptible to Dagoth Ur's dreams, if he would have been able to overthrow the Tribunal and get past the Ghost Gate the blight would infect the entire continent and all the dunmer would become sleepers, and essentially be infected with corprus and used as an army to kick all the Imperials out of the land. He has a fair goal and wanted his old buddy Neravarine to fight along side him but unfortunately became crazy and invincible with the heart. It is hinted that the dwemer turned into the dunmer in one of the old books you find, but remember that fucking with god powers like they did literally turned most the dwemer into piles of ash and banished them to another dimension or some shit, no one really knows.

Henry's claim to the throne was being related to the fourth son of Edward III (a bastard at that) on his mother's side I believe 4 generations prior.
I had to check up on that again, and he has a slightly better claim to the throne than I did my bad, my claim goes back 5 generations with some other noble line which was in direct relations to the Hanovers, so it's not as good as Henry's, welp fuck, I don't know why I was thinking that I had a better claim, probably lack of sleep.
Aw well I can still go with the Scottish noble blood if I want to but not as thrilling.
So all in all it is apparent bullshit, nvm but fuck it still going to try, look out in the news for some fuck head American trying to claim the throne down the line anons.

Thank you for the correction user, I don't know how the fuck I could miss that one.

LMAO, believing a bunch of mudhut shitty ashlanders.

Now joking aside, that's one of the best parts of Morrowind.
There's basically three theories:
And the game never outright says "this is the correct version".
When you visit Vivec in the main quest for instance. The guy just points to the papers there and says "that's my version. Read it. You can believe me, if you want, or you can believe something else". Or the Ashlanders say their version. Or the Tribunal. Or some "prophets" and priests you find. Heck, even the Empire has their version.

All we know is that he was called Nerevar because he was a champion of Azura. We also know he was an excelent diplomat. So, wathever cause of death my be, his disappearance meant that not only Azura was angry (and you can't call the curse of the Dunmer "justice" since we all know what kind of "justice" the Daedra dispense) but the best diplomat and mediator in Tamriel died. Of course there would be civil strife.

Now, if you ask me, I personally believe Dagoth Ur tricked the Dwemer into building the Kagrenac's tools and the Heart once they found it. To prevent them from actually using it, he also tricked the Chimer into attacking them and hoped to use the confusion to get a hold of the artifact. This would justify his actions in the eyes of the chimer (common enemy) and end the conflict swiftly. It would also allow him to conquer Skyrim and eventually crush the Altmer plans. Shit went awry when Vivec and Co. saw throught the ruse and sent him to the Void. I don't buy the "Dagoth was affected by the artifact because he was exposed for a long time". I believe that happened intentionally.

Also:
Anyone have that image that explained how Necromancy works in TES and how Dagoth's "reverse necromancy" works too?
Because that shit was spooky.

I'd rather not have our king be a shitposting autist on Holla Forums

But we know.
They're the skin of the Numidium.

It's too late britanon, I am going to be your king.
I'll remove Pakis

Then why do you find a bunch of ash piles and weapons/armor in all the dwemer strongholds? Where does it say that the dwemer are the skin of Numidium? Also how did Kagrenac survive? Not even the oldest know Telvanni wizard can conclusively answer your questions about the disappearance of the dwarves, it is all speculation and some old ass books that don't really answer anything.

It helps when you inherit daddies hundreds of millions. Its that first million that's the hardest to earn. Once you have tons of money, its a lot easier to make more. That don't mean he would have made millions if he had been born to a family of trailer trash.

Be prepared for a pretty impressive deposition, Your Majesty.
don't worry I'll revolt in your name

Good good.
Also fuck that government surveillance over everybodies internet, I mean shit don't you guy's have to ask to watch porn?

The royals need to die off already.

Prince Harry is alright from what I remember

The Royals don't really do anything they just waste money.

All I can read in your post is "there's a guy in desperate need of stabbing so I can have a better claim to the throne".
Get stabby or you're never gonna sit your ass on that throne user! Read Machievilians "How to King for Dummies", it details in a very logical way why it's very moral and ethic to store an entire kitchen set of knives in that guy's backside just so you can deport pakis out.

That's the burned bodies and the physical remainds of them. The skin of Numidium is composed from the SOULS of the Dwemer, not their bodies, much like you can find Nords all over Sovengarde despite their bodies staying in Mundus and becoming Draurgr guarding plot items

Cameron tried to ban a few types of porn he didn't like. How a man who fucks dead pigs thinks he can tell me I can't watch a girl sit on a guy's face I will never know.

Average people thinking they have a right to tell the royal family to fuck off is hilarious.

He was not born a god. His destiny did not lead him to this crime. He chose this path of his own free will. He stole the godhood and murdered the Hortator. Vivec wrote this.

I think you guys are taking on faith the good intentions if crazy dude who is busy trying to destroy dunmer society, wipe out its gods so he can take their place, turning half the country into deformed monsters, just because, and driving many more insane.
He may have been your mate once, he may once have had the best interests of the dunmer people in mind. But at the point the game is set, he's clearly every bit as deranged as the Tribunal. Also he keeps sending sleepers to kill you.

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Whenever they try to do anything there is an instant shitstorm from the media to the point where I think they simply decided it isn't worth the trouble to do anything

That post actually made me laugh out loud, thanks user I needed that.

That's why you have a proper monarchist revolution along with usurpation of power.

Oh? So you have an authoritarian replacement that is not democratic? Or are you an anarchy autist or commie scum who thinks the masses can manage themselves?

I really don't see the point to them anymore.

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tradition u homo

meh

sweet meme kiddo

How about you fucking explain yourself then

This kind of thought process of going "meh" to tradition is what got you guys disarmed.

all the real royals are gone though. house of (((windsor))) ain't my king fam

Do you remember the name of the book or conversation you find this out in game or is this fan theory type stuff? I'm gonna play through the game again without being high and plan on studying the lore more closely, even though I have beat the game like 4 times already. Also still haven't played Skyrim yet but that's breddy cool. I decided to play through the game in order, Arena was a fucking chore but Daggerfall was more fun.

Thanks to mod, they guard both PLOT and BACKSTORY aswell!

Can't open the UESP from where I am, but I'm pretty the scrolls in the Temple of Vivec pretty much state "Nerevar walked in my door bleeding and dying, shit was fucked and we didn't get who did it"
Do mind you: I'm not contesting they got their Godhood. But there's a chance they did so to actually defeat Dagoth Ur who at the time might already have become too powerfull for mortals to handle.
Think about it: Hortator nearly dead, going back home, Dagoth spends a few days sucking on that God-Juice. When Vivec and pals find out what happened, they rush there, but Dagoth is already steroid'd and they can't do shit.
That's assuming the "Dagoth rused the Dwemer and the Chimer" theory, which I think is the closest to being real.

To be honest I prefer the "everyone was rused" theory:
>Nerevar mortally wonded by someone Maybe even Kagrenac

This theory only has one detail missing:
Who orchestrated the whole chimer vs dwemer war? Who tricked all this wise man and women? Who caused untold genocide and spawned a cosmical necromantic abomination?
Who would pull of a trick of this magnitude?
Why, Lorkhan of course!.
It's always Lorkhan, user.

Tradition is a stupid reason to keep something as there are plenty of horrible traditions that everyone is glad are no longer a thing.
If it has any value whatsoever, it should be preserved, otherwise it should be forgotten from anywhere but history books, and Monarchy isn't different.

IMO, Monarchy is just another way of solving the need for some kind of government, and while preferable to Libertarians, Anarchists or Communists, it's in every way inferior to Democracy or even Capitalism.

But having a royal family acting as embassadors and examples for their people, having large amounts of money and power they use to improve their country?
Yeah sure, I'm all for that.

OH, I happened to find the Necromancy image I was looking for.
Here. Read it and see why siding with Dagoth is a very, VERY bad idea.
I agree he was a cool dude. But joining him now would anhilitate basicaly everything, not just everyone.

I want a proper warrior king again fam.
I want to have the Muslims have true fear in their eyes when they see a Crusader king marching his army across their land and destroy Mecca

Which is what monarchists advocate, the preservation of the monarchy because it is of value
Well no shit nigga
Have you heard of a constitutional monarchy?
Which they do except Harry the fuckwit

This is your only good point tbh fam

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I can't escape you butthurt royalist even on Holla Forums I'm center I don't have a party and my views are both right and left.

The Eu let the fucking moors back into Europe time for a reconquest.

Nigga, that "Vivec Wrote This" was straight from a hidden message in the 36 Sermons.

imperial-library.info/content/thirty-six-lessons-obscurity-and-deception

He also said the same thing in the Trial of Vivec after magically forcing himself to speak the truth:
imperial-library.info/content/trial-vivec

The bit about destiny? You're missing it completely. Vivec specifically isn't pleading that it's fate, he's saying that he willfully and intentionally murdered Nerevar.

Now what's Harry's stance on Muslims I wonder.

It's time to remove them all user.

Anyways I must sleep now Britanons. from a Burger to all of you Britbongs, stay safe and remove kebab.

You responded to me first you twat.

What the fuck does this have to do with the monarchy?

You must be an anarchist, it's the only way I can think to explain how retarded you are.

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>>>/oven/
The day of the rope is coming, degenerates.

Not an argument

Is it somebody else's fault that you sit on your ass and shitpost on Holla Forums instead of rasing an army?

Why is the gun smoking but homer not dead?

That's wrong though, the Tribunal had power because they stole it from the Heart of Lorkhan. What you just said was propaganda by Vivec to religiously subjugate the nation of Morrowind, which let him have an excuse to set up a Ministry of Truth and to take the souls of the Dunmer to make The Ghostfence.

Monarchy doesn't have an intrisique value, user. It's monarchs do but despite not always being a positive value, it will be forced on the population because tradition.
This much at least Democracy often solves with a new fuckwit every 4 years in case the previous one was of negative value.

Yeah, I have. It's that thing where Monarchs have no real power except being cockblocks for the democractically elected government.
In my country, we have a Republic President instead who has the same job (and control the army) but is also elected every 5 years.
Pure Democracy is better than government-mixing with Monarchy.
I don't mean to say Democracy doesn't have it's share of problems either (two people vote to rob the third and all those fun analogies) but from all Political systems invented yet, it's the best we've come up for now.
The best is still a technocracy with an AI overlord allocating resources and taxes were needed with predictive algorythms and other juicy techno-stuff, but since AI research is met with suspicion or used to make meme-bots for skype, we won't see anything like that for a few centuries.

My whole point is that you don't always have good leaders in whatever form of government you have, but of all the methods there are, Democracy is the one that cycles them out the fastest, thus being the best system, with Monarchy being terrible because there's no choice and you're entirely at the whims of genetics and family ties. Imagine if Prince Harry was to lead your country, I'm sure you'd want to vote him out of the royal family.

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Do it faggot. New Pakistan is getting out of hand.

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Right, there's quite a big flaw in your logic which I'm going to correct before this tomfoolery goes any further.

You've combined the definitions of 'monarchy' and 'absolute monarchy', kind of like how SJWs do with 'racism' and 'institutional racism'. The reason I asked if you'd heard of a constitutional monarchy is because you seem to think that I'm arguing for a divine-right-of-kings feudalistic absolute monarchy with no form of constitution whatsoever.

I support the continued existence of the monarchy because they are a staple of British history and culture and it would be a dire shame to let them fade into obscurity. I don't think the unwitten UK constitution should be done away with,nor do I wish to return to feudalism.

The Queen is entitled to abdicate at any time, and if you try to tell me that she wouldn't in the face of a bill or referendum requesting her abdication then you're dead wrong.

You just said that monarchs have no power beside a democratically elected government, so why should it matter? The Queen does has next to no political power at all (she has plenty of influence, but that's another matter entirely). Case law and constitutional conventions have been an organic system of checks and balances for centuries.

tl;dr constutional monarchy for life yo

Anything can happen, fam

You meant to say that "Monarchy" has a diferent meaning than what I said.
But then you didn't tell me how your "monarchy" works.
I do agree to keep it, because it is indeed a tradition and part of British history and culture aswell

Depends on what kind of Queen you have.
Remember that it's the person that controls the army afterall. Try telling someone with an army at his beck and call that he should step down.
I can see that working nicely for the current Queen for instance. But here's a scary though: what if Hillary was your queen? Boy that would suck, wouldn't it?

It's a bit of hyperbole, I know. But remember the maxim of politics: He who controls the guns controls the law. That's why the americans have the second ammendement suposedly anyway. If the people have the guns, the people control the laws again, suposedly.
If you're depending on the goodwill, responsability and sense of citizenship of someone, you're risking a whole lot of things in case that person decides to flip you the bird.

I think you oughta explain the diferences between a Democracy and a Constituional Monarchy. I might be missing something there.
For me, they're pretty much the same, except the guy who controls the army and the constituition itself gets rotated every 5 years in one of them.

Just as well I'm currently studying public law or you would be fucked. Let's start with the basics.

Fundamentally there is not a huge amount of difference, it's just that a 'pure' democracy has the President or Prime Minister as head of State, and the constitutional monarchy's head of state is the monarch. This means that while the monarch is the one who theoretically has all the power (i.e. statutes are enacted 'in the name of

But that's wrong you faggot. He literally talks about ending the kind of society USA currently is, which is survival of the richest, and making it go back to the way it was, the wild west. Making everyone truly free.

Sad!

The left can't just be right at all.

No, you're a retard. Those kids weren't white, who cares about some street rats from Mexico.

And how is it hypocrisy that just because he was born rich, he wants to end the current era and return America back to the way it was, to bring back the American dream and bring back the freedom? If anything it's very noble that even a rich man like him is fighting against the very system that rewarded him, and wants to help all Americans.

To be fair Life is Strange managed to simulate teenage girls pretty well, it may be cringe but that is the way they try to act in real life.

So it's as I expected. The analogue position in my country has pretty much the same power, vetoing new bills and impeaching the current prime minister as well as appointing who he thinks is best for the job (usually the one that got the majority of votes) and command the army.

However, there are 2 points where it varies.

First is that the President of the Republic actually has the power he is meant to have. He is the Chief Commander of the army, who will side with him and our last 3 have veto'ed a lot of laws they did not agreed with.
The previous one even had to impeach the previous governent and appointed as sucessor an unpopular choice causing some serious political strife.
Your Queen seems incapable of doing any of that for a number of reasons, making her a moot point.

Secondly, we elect our President of the Republic every 5 years. If one sucks at his job, he will not be elected again. Furthermore, they can't serve for more than 2 consecutive mandates, meaning it's mandatory a new guy after 10 years. This ensures he treats the role as a job and not as status while also giving the population the option to rotate him out if he's too incompetent.
Your Queen seems immune to such mechanisms except if forced by the army and will remain in power for as long as she lives regardless of how popular or how competent she really is.

Now keep in mind, we are not really talking about the current Queen or President but rather any queen or any president. The current ones might be good but the next ones might be terrible, however democracy at least allows to rotate them out after 5 years instead of every generation and even allows people to pick the next one instead of just the first-born of the current fuckwit.

we have one job: resist tyranny

And who cares about some street rats from America?

You must have not read Part 7 if you think Funny Valentine is a tyrant. He's just like the Founding Fathers. He doesn't care one bit about power for himself, only about the prosperity of USA.

He was very clearly the true hero of the story, while Johnny was the "selfish gunslinger asshole" type that ruins everything for the sake of his personal goals.

Only in theory, almost never in actual practice.

Armstrong does? Because he's American? Duh.
Are you stupid or something?

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Not denying that, but better in Democracy where it at least always works in theory and sometimes in practice then in Monarchy where it never works in theory or in practice.

Why would he? They are street rats, too weak to get a job or survive on their own, being parasites to society. To Armstrong, they wouldn't be any different than the street rats from Mexico.

Ever read history? I guess not. It used to be pretty easy to just go to America and succeed. In fact, they used to just GIVE tons of free land to Europeans migrating to America.
Anyway, Armstrong doesn't mention "The American dream", he talks about making USA become the way the Founding Fathers envisioned it, where freedom is more important than anything else. That is noble.

I feel like you're too unintelligent to have this conversation. I guess you never played the game and don't know the plot? Then why argue about it. He acknowledges that the reason there are so many poor in America is because of (((The Patriots))) organization (allegory for the Jews in MGS) and that the American people no longer have the freedom to make their own destiny, the game has been rigged against them since birth. So he intends to end that and bring back freedom, to bring back "the wild west".

It's pretty simple but I guess if your IQ is around 70 it's a bit hard for you to grasp, sorry but I can't explain it in any simpler terms.

Nigger did you read any of what I wrote? The Queen doesn't have any of the power, and barring an actual revolution she never will. She is not the leader of the UK. If she tried to invoke the statutes that gave her the theoretical power to do whatever she likes with the country, it would not work.
Look, there are three main ingredients of any government that give them the power to rule the country.
-The legislature, which makes the laws
-The executive, which enforce the laws
-The judiciary, which mete out punishment to lawbreakers
The law surrounding these is long and tedious, but suffice it to say that the Queen cannot control any of these in Britain. If she tried to get rid of democracy, she would be met with "sorry, Majesty, but no." from the entire government, let alone the populace.
You fucking said yourself that the monarchy is a moot point, so why are you still acting as if Britain is actually ruled by the Queen and not the democratically eletected government?
Jesus, it's like you don't really care about the law surrounding the the monarchy and you're just trolling me.
which makes me sad

So according to you the US never existed prior to the 21st century, good to know.

You're an idiot user, for all intents and purposes the Queen of England's position is primarily ceremonial. She holds absolutely zero power over Canada and any other places that are still a part of the empire. If she had real power then that would be a different story.

Wrong on both accounts.

He acknowledges people are being forced to fight wars they don't agree with and they are constantly beset by strife created by higher powers to keep them busy and prevent any real struggle from them.
His solution is to free everyone from that so they can fight in the battles they believe in and for the causes or reasons they want.

However, it makes no distintion over anyone and doesn't care about the differences in many people. A lot of citizens aren't strong enough to fight for themselves and would rather submit to higher powers that can keep them safe than take their chances with "the wild west".

Perhaps it is you who are too dumb to have this conversation, as what Armstrong proposed was essentially anarchy with all the problems that come from that, and the Wild West was a great place to show that as during that time, might made right, even if you were a scoundrel.
doesn't bring back anyone said scoundrel killed and doesn't stop someone hiring a gang to take over a town.

So it's even more useless than actual Democracy, yes. I though I already acknowledged that point?
If she doesn't have any power then the entire Monarchy is pointless and belongs more in a book than in a palace.

It's not just that, he seems to think that modern Britain is still ruled by the Queen just like in fucking medieval times.

just claim to be muslim and nonwhite, the Brits will slaughter the royal family to place you on the throne if you claim that

I understand that perfectly well and there are many more examples for that like the Spain Monarchy that's essentially the same.

I merely contest the idea that it's still Monarchy since she clearly has no power. At that point, acknowledge the royal family as some VIP family for social events and call your government full Democracy.
For the sake of absurdity, compare the influence and power the Kardashians have over the public to the power royal families still maintain.

It would be best to elect a Republic President and actually give him the power Kings have in theory instead of keeping this façade up.

Don't presume to know what other people think, especially on an imageboard. You'll be wrong allways, trust me on this.

Oh ok so you're not stupid, you're just a gigantic anti-freedom faggot. Gotcha.

So what if a lot of citizens aren't strong enough to fight for themselves?
That's called leftist scum. They deserve to perish by the survival of the fittest.

It seems like you're a commie faggot who thinks safety > freedom.
Well, that's not how it is. There is nothing more important than freedom. Freedom must come at all costs, no matter if it creates danger. The strong will survive.

I love how 95% of the people saying shit like you would be the first ones to die lol

Holla Forumstardation at its finest.

I am rapidly losing patience with you mate.
What you did was confuse constitutional monarchy and absolute monarchy twice and then go on to ignore the explanation and just compare absolute monarchy and democracy anyway.

Contest it all you like, you're still wrong. She's the head of State and theoretically she does have power. It's just that not only does she promise not to fuck us over, she is actually incapable of fucking us over. Doesn't mean she's not the head of State.

That was pretty absurd considering the Kardashians aren't America's heads of State. It's a very basic legal distinction.

Why?

I didn't presume a damn thing, it was the logical extension of what you were saying.

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Ever imagined the concept of Freedom coming at the cost of Freedom itself?
Give it a tough sometime, user. There's a reason people started thinking about that 2000 years ago. And there's a reason we still talk about sacrificing Freedom in the pursuit of Freedom.

Brilliant.

No, that's called many things that don't necessarily have to do with political ideologies.
Fathers would rather stay at home and protect their kids instead of enlisting and dying in some other country, leaving their sons to fend off for themselves, for instance.
Other's are uber nerds that are very puny physically and can't even lift themselves. But they'd make excelent doctors and keep lots of people alive if Billy the Kid doesn't shoot them because they don't give them money for whisky.

I'll also add a quick note about how easy you are to condem people to death for having a different political view than yours.

No, I'm a realist faggot that believes you buy rights with duty, not with guns.

I'm also a realist that knows there are a lot of people that don't share mine or yours point of view.
Let's assume that Amrstrong succeed and terminated the establishment.
Do you actually believe the majority of people would just do their own thing and start a company on their own or something similar?
Or that they'd agregate near the closest figure of authority that promised to keep them safe and do whatever he told them to do?

I don't like it any better than you do, my anarcho-friend, but the truth is people like their chains and you can shoot the slaver as many times as you want, they'll chain themselves to someone else. Worse yet, if you can kill the slaver, they'll chain themselves to you or try to destroy you in the process.
You either let them be or you have to kill them, so… Enjoy ruling a graveyard instead of a country?

To you and me, maybe. Understand that please, not everyone has the same priorities.
"Freedom must come at all costs" doesn't really stick if you have a family that depends on you being alive and "the strong will survive" is a shitty way of living life when the definition of strong is usually "the characteristic I have that you don't".

Used to be in medieval times that the strongest was the guy with a strong arm. Then came gunpowder and it became the guy with better aim. Then came capitalism and became the guy with more money.

No, what I did was acknowledge that constitutional monarchy has no value because it has no power to rule. And absolute monarchy is worse than democracy as you cant cycle a bad leader as easily.

Both points you've failed to debate so far, what's the point of a monarchy that can't do shit or a monarchy that is worse than democracy

Which means nothing if she doesn't have it practically and means it's worse than democracy if she actually had it practically.

But they are seen and followed by a lot of people, considered examples even by many.
They can indeed influece the government if they ever decide to give their view on politics for instance. Just because it's not covered by any law, it doesn't mean it doesn't have any actual consequence.

Because in case such power needs to be used he can actually do so.
And because in case he fucks up, he can indeed be replaced in a short amount of time, compared to waiting for the next generation.

In your head. Seriously, stop assuming things, you're just setting yourself up for frustration and confirmation bias.

Hi anons! I’m an authoritarian!
I’m too weak willed to take charge of my own life so i project those insecurities onto other people and demand that a vauge, figurehead decide what’s best for vastly different groups of people with zero regard for differences in diet, culture, day-to-day needs, personal preferences, or aptitude.
Libertarianism is a joke because i know left to my own devices i will starve to death curled in the fetal position in the corner of my basement.
This is why my political opinion needs to be taken seriously.

Nah, you's a faggot.
Autoritharians have their place, actually.
There's a time in the liftime of an empire where Authoritarian governments actually achieve good results. For one, they are the best system to counter act against foreign agressions and even internal threats.
They're not that good at dealing with economics in the long term (even though they excel in the short term) and usually leave the population angry.
I'm talking about Leftisit Authoritarian and Right Authoritarian, mind you.

Hey guys, I'm a Jew moderate so it would really be unreasonable to disagree with my reasonableness. Having principles is for stupid people because I say people I disagree with are stupid. You wouldn't want to be stupid or unreasonable would you? Join me in allowing anyone with power to fuck everyone over.

The image is kind of stupid though, the middle one should be changed to "not paying to fuck the sister but still buying meth from your dealer".

Hi anons! I’m an libertarian!

I’m too weak willed to take charge of my own life so i project those insecurities onto other people and demand that a vauge, non-existent state removes all standards with zero regard for the advancement of the race, culture, day-to-day needs, security, or the morality of the people.

Fascism is a joke because i know if held to a certain standard all my peers would be disappointed in me as i resort to my only joys in life which are cumming and weed.

This is why my political opinion needs to be taken seriously.

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This thread was supposed to be about cool villains like Squid Girl.

You completely miss the point of horseshoe theory. The point is that both sides are so ridiculously extreme that they're easy to observe as similiar to one another. It's not about having views, it's about being extreme in them.

The alt right and regressive left having huge, outrageous ideas for social reform justify the existence of horseshoe theory and the people getting mad about it entirely miss its point.

There is no existence of horseshoe theory. It is retarded horseshit.

Right, clearly you have your hands full arguing with the (((libertarian))) over there but I will thank you to at least read what I write.
There is its value.
That is true. A shame that it's irrelevant as nobody claimed absolute monarchy was better than democracy in the first place.
It's ceremonial. As has been said.
If the Kardashians actually do have any political influence then that's a sad indictment of the political situation in America. The point is that being the head of State affords you legitimate political influence, regardless of whatever other power (or lack thereof) you might have; as opposed to being famous for a sex tape. It's not even remotely the same thing.
I will say it again.
All the power the Prime Minister needs is already available. The Queen plays no part in the democratic process whatsoever, aside from the ceremonial function of granting the Royal Assent. Functionally the constitutional monarchy and the democracy are exactly the same, apart from the fact that the constitutional monarchy involves a little more ceremony in some places and a few unwritten rules in some other places. The marginal streamlining of governmental process that abolishing the monarchy would get is outweighed by the social and cultural price.
Come on, man. You don't seem unintelligent, why are you insisting on going round in circles?

Pretty solid argument there

Rock solid compared to what it's against. Horseshoe theory is just an easily discreditable assertion that only exists so that Classical Liberal losers can feel good about being milquetoast permissive faggots.

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Yeah but you didn't even try to discredit the theory, you just called someone else's point retarded and left it at that.
Like if, in a hypothetical scenario,
It seems to work.

If it's so easily discreditable, then *perhaps* you should discredit it instead of being a moron about it.

I'm not saying it isn't misused but to say it's completely without value is, frankly, fucking retarded, as is anyone who believes it doesn't exist.

That's because of the tight grip of the Jew around every piece of entertainment available to you. The endless reinforcement of egalitarianism throughout the controlled culture means that to a great extent, every “superhero” game has the same plot. An extraordinary character is introduced, a challenge emerges to the liberal assumptions of modernity, and the hero, by humbling himself and accepting his responsibility to his inferiors, saves the day and preserves the sacred illusion of equality. The unintended result of this kind of culture is that the most interesting, intelligent, and genuinely substantive characters and ideas come from a film’s supposed villains.

To further elaborate, raises a perfect point. The entire point about horseshoe theory, as I explained, is that extremes typically end up having a lot in common because they're basically both fucking retards who blow shit out of proportion.

See: Holla Forums, BLM, the regressive left, the alt right, and so on and so forth. Wanting to take extreme measures like national socialism or fascism, or socialism and communism, are two sides of the same coin. Heavy social reform over minor issues or flat out non-issues is incredibly fucking retarded, and this retardation is something both sides have in common.

It's not to say that moderates are superior for not getting involved or having super extreme views, nor is it saying that the moderates who are smug about being moderates aren't fucking dipshit spergs. It's just saying that extremists of both sides have many things in common.

Ayup. And most Holla Forumsniggers seem to cry horseshoe even when it isn't present. Like when someone states that nazis, islamists and commies are really shit for the same reason, for being obsessive control freaks that demanded flawless unity while ripping apart the society by establishing artificial norms in culture, economy and whatever (being fascist cunts in general), according to the retards it can't be true because "muh horseshoe-theory, u liberal cuck".

Fascists don't die their hair, get Antifa faggots fired, or uphold a more radical version of the narrative that runs throughout all the halls of power.

Someone post that comic book image of Red Skull basically saying "political correctness is bad" as if he's suddenly a good guy now.

Yeah, and that's another issue, horseshoe theory is being taken out of context rather often despite it being a really solid, legitimate example of issues with extremists and their views.

That's not how it works you dweeblord. See the other posts I've linked.

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>PEOPLE ARE STILL BUMPING THE SHITPOSTING TEMPLATE THREAD
This is why we need stricter moderation.

Hello normal person :^) Establishing "artificial" norms is what the state is actually, literally all about if you haven't noticed yet.

No one on Holla Forums reads these comics and made their conclusion based on one page that in a vacuum does make him the "good guy". So you're also wrong.

okay so….
common points we both seem to be arguing is that a constitutional monarchy and a democracy function nearly identical with the main diferences being:
a)A little more ceremony
b)No rotation of it's leader every 5 years
That's cool by me. I still prefer a 5 year rotation, but Monarchy has the unspoken checks you mentioned, and that also keeps the King in check so he isn't a huge faggot.
So it's just two diferent ways of keeping someone from being a huge faggot and abusing power (wether he actually has it or not).
I still prefer democracy purely because the rules to control the Leader are written down and fixed. Unspoken rules have the tendency of being ignored unless everyone involved has a modicum of honour or respect.
Then again, written rules also have the tendency to be circunvented/loopholed, so I guess both systems only work when the people involved actually want it to work.

All in all, I'd prefer a monarchy purely on aesthetics (kings and thrones are fashionable as fuck).

The horshoe theory has a point since it's not meant to compare the means by which political parties achieve their ends. It isntead compares the results of those means.
If you take a single step back and look at it from a neutral standpoint, both ideologies boil down to:
At which point you start asking "Why Kill anyone?"
And both sides fail to explain why killing is needed, because they're much more invested in explaining that X and Y are bad.
You can akcnowledge that X and Y are bad, and still manifest that you do not think killing is warranted.
Their reponse will be to either re-explain why X and Y are bad (disregarding the fact that you already akcnowledge that) ro give up and declare you an enemy.

The whole horshoe theory only has one practical application: exposing faggots who are so deep into the "2 party narrative" that they can't see beyond a "us vs them" mentality.
You're either with them, or against them.

This in turn helps them, because they get to be horrible human beings to everyone that does not fall within their definition of "ally". Since you're not an ally, you're clearly a bad person, and wathever psycopathic action they take is entirely justified on the grounds that you deserve it.
Also, notice that what I just typed applies both to the Regressive Left and to the Progressive Right.
This is a reply that further confirms the "2 party mentality". Don't treat the polical spectrum has a one dimensional thing you can measure to one side or the other. Left vs Right is a neat anoalgy for dumb people who can't fanthom people having common opinions about a lot of things and diferent opinions about other things.

I love how it's painfully obvious Marvel is making Red Skull say this because they're a bunch of liberals who hate Trump's foreign policy.

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How does one go about joining Hydra?

true, but I don't care if you want to race mix, just do it in the other side of the wall, and don't ask me any money

If only I didn't had to pay any taxes for them..

..and want to enforce all the people to live in the way they want to, like true fascists

user-kun. Don't do this to me. I'm going to pop a blood vessel.
The monarch isn't the leader, for fuck's sake.
There is a General Election every 5 years in the UK to elect the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister is the leader. The monarch is not the leader. The monarch is just… there. Performing ceremonies (e.g granting the Royal Assent, formally appointing or swearing in the Prime Minister, granting knighthood etc.), maybe giving a few speeches here and there and otherwise just existing as a cultural and historical figure without getting involved in politics.
According to the law (which is centuries old) they have the power to do all kinds of crazy shit. According to unspoken convention, they don't actually do it. Even if they did do it they would find that actually they couldn't do it.
Look, no offence, but maybe you need to be a Brit in order to fully understand this.

You should probably try typing with your hands instead of your arse.
Look just take a break from posting and actually read the replies. Read them again if you don't get it the first time. If you still don't get it then just go and stick a fucking crayon up your nose or whatever it is you do in your excessive free time.

Not a really a point there mate.
As stupid as I consider a lot of things Holla Forums says, they have a point vs BLM.
Niggers do cost a lot of money every year to america, while whites MAKE a lot of money for america.
I'd actually agree more with BLM if I saw them promoting niggers getting jobs, or forming their own companies.
But instead they're shouting "kick whitey out, put an unskilled, uneducated nigger in his place!"
That's an argument similar to feminism, and we don't even need to wait to see how that goes. Just take a look at Rhodesia. Heck, take a look at most of Africa. Bunch of white farmers lived there, made enough food for a lot countries.
They kicked whites out, told the niggers "there, that's your land. now farm". And the niggers laugh, set up tents right on top of crops and proceeded to do fuck all. Now, most of south-africa is starving and needs to import food instead of exporting it.

I mean, you can acusse whites of a lot of things. But whites aren't in South Africa with whips preventing the niggers from farming and making a living. Neither are they in America preventing niggers from starting a business and making their own jobs.

There is a General Election every 5 years in the UK to elect the Prime Minister.
Oh right, sorry there mate.
Around here we have 3 elections:

Technically, the President is the one who authorizes the Prime Minister to take office after the election, but that almost always happens (except in Portugal in the last election. Look it up, it was pretty funny)
I assume a monarchy would only have the first two elections with the third one not being needed.

There's so much wrong with this post that I don't know where to begin.
What does anarcho-capitalists want to control? Who are anarcho-communits going to kill? Is an Objectivist society going to censor free-speech? Are those "centrists" in your view? Seems like it, since the only extreme right and left in your head are fascism and communism.
The horseshoe theory has NO point and it's largely IGNORED by people that know what the fuck they are talking about for being so reductionist as to be completely meaningless.
First of all, the point of it is not to claim that the extreme right and left are the same, simply that they are more similar to each other than the moderate right and left. Go look at the image of a fucking horseshoe, you don't even know what you're talking about to the point of looking just sad.
The left x right paradigm is too reductionist to start with.
But in your autistic brain, suppressing opposition makes two completely opposite systems the same, no matter the who, the why, the how, including, of course, literally every single other facet of them being entirely antipodal.

Fuck off back to your containment board.

Forgot:
The first two elections happen every 4 years, the thrid one happens every five.
There's a limit to how many times someone can occupy office, usually 2 times.

user, I swear I Ctrl+F my post and searched for "control", "anarcho-capitalists" and "free-speech" and found nothing.
You might be replying to the wrong post.
Or you might be full of shit.

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Anarcho-communism is to the left of communism.
Horseshoe "theory" is not only so reductionist as to be useless, it's also not a theory at all, just a random observation one could make in a coffee shop. The far-left and far-right don't really share any similarities apart from perhaps superficial ones, you just don't know shit about politics, sorry.

You don't have to convince me that BLM is a pile of shit. I wasn't actually trying to make a point about either them or Holla Forums, it was just the first example I came up with to illustrate the horseshoe theory.
Holla Forums might be right, but you can't deny that their view on race is far from what a normal person would consider 'moderate'.

How is this guy the villain?
Oh, I forgot. Ubisoft are a bunch of literal Marxists and anarchists.

You have to go back

I have never heard something so dumb in my life.
You keep trying to fit political views in a single dimensions.
Comunists want a STATE. Anarchists don't.
How the fuck can you say "Well, it's like gobunism BUT EVEN FURTHER".

Stop thinking about politics like it's a damn line, where the bad guys are on one end, and the good guys are on the other.
That political system was created to explain a large and complex organization and set of ideas to dumb people.

You might wanna refrain form using the first example that comes up to your head user.
Just friendly advice. Usually the first thing a person can think of isn't the better, nor even close to it.
Well, they don't don't try to hide it as moderate either.
Wether you agree with them or not, Holla Forums is Holla Forums man. I understand why they think like they do and respect it. I mean, you can go be an autist there and spam the board like some have done before, but that ain't gonna change them.
Just work with them when they aligh with you, and don't work with them when they don't.
You know, like actual politicians do.
Most of them are still LARPING Natsoc faggots though, you have to trek a lot of threads to find the half-dozen posters there that actually have a brain.

Just friendly advice. Usually the first thing a person can think of isn't the better, nor even close to it.
It was just an analogy you colossal faggot, I was trying to come up with two opposing extreme viewpoints and settled on Holla Forums and BLM.
what the fuck's up with you? You miss the point, then say plenty of intelligent things and then you just go and fucking miss the point again. Are there two people at your keyboard?

I wrote a huge reply actually trying to force your brain to work but lost it so I'll be brief.
You're accusing me of trying to fit political views in a single dimension (a line) when the horseshoe theory (it's not even a theory) does exactly that. And anarcho-communism is, yes, more leftist than communism. That's not an opinion, much less my opinion.
That "political system" (it's not a political system) wasn't created for that end at all. Do you even know what are you talking about or you're just making baseless assumptions as you go?
The horseshoe thing, to start with, only states that the extremes are closer to each other than they are to the centre, you are not even aware of that because of course you didn't read a book by a good author on it, you just learned about it on google and tried to argue with people because you are a centrist yourself, and therefore everyone but you is bad and wrong.

Why is the centre liberal democrat when liberalism is so young in the grand scheme of human history?

Is what is considered centre now the same as it were 20 years ago? No. 50, 100, 200, 1000 years ago? Much less. Google gray fallacy and be gone.

Would you enlighten me about ZTD's story? In-depth if you can. I dont' want to waste time playing it only to disappoint myself, as i've heard from almost everyone unanimously that it sucks, especially as a final game in the series. Tell me everything please user.

I fucking hate horseshoe theory, the basis of it relies on a false dichotomy that all of politics fits neatly into a one-dimensional slider of "left-wing" and "right-wing".

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Didn't really want to hit the point there to be honest.
Just wanted to give you honest advice. I tend to pull some heavy exxageration and hyperboles when making up examples for other people and I'm often critized for it. So I make an effort of NOT using the first thing that comes to my mind and instead picking something more relatable to whomever is hearing me.
Look at the replies you got. The downside of picking an hasty example is having people pick it apart on things and reason you didn't really mean to discuss in the first place.
I haven't taken my pills yet, maybe that it?

Allright, two things:
One, you're arguing about the actual definition of the Theory. On which case, yes you are using the correct definition when you say "both extremes are closer to the center, they're not identical".
However, I was making a diferent point, one that is wrongly associated with "Horshoe theory" but it's the best moniker for it.
Extremism breeds echo-chambers, which in turn breeds intolerance, which creates more extremism. This applies on both extremes of the spectrum. Like you said, "Horshoe Theory" has theoretically nothing to do with this phenomena, but when people refer to it on here, 9 outta 10 times, they usually mean what I just said, not the actual definition of the word.

It's in the same situation as "cuck", were through repetition and a bunch of forced memes, the original meaning of the expression got lost, and folks replaced it with something else.
If you wanna fight to reclaim the meaning of it, I commend your efforts. That picture is perfect for it.
But if you want my sincere opinion, it's an exercise in futility, and barely anyone will pick it up, since "Horseshoe theory" has already gained conotation of being an SJW term, an insult and (baffignly) is now associated with centrism. A right winger can still acept that the horsehoe exists and deny the extremism.
But go to Holla Forums and try to explain that to the 90% extremist userbase there.
It doesn't make for an interesting conversation.
But makes up a very funny one.

What about russian or chinese conservatives that want the good old days of Mao and Staling to come back?

I know, fuck states.

user, you need to brush up on law. Seriously, legally the Queen is still the Queen, legally via legal procedures she has no power unless everyone agrees to it. She is not the leader, she has not been recognized as the leader for a long time and is simply viewed as a celebrity. The leader is the prime minister.

Probably don't even know that the United States is a republic.

At the very beginning, the first test of Zero is a coinflip. Flip right – you are let go, game ends. Frip wrong – you have to play. You flip right on the first try and win. Within the first 10 minutes of the game you're reading credits, and that's it. Then you go back, flip wrong and start playing

Time-jumpers are now called SHIFTers
When SHIFTer jumps, the other conciousness goes back to the other timeline, they swap, which was established in VLR

Zero II is actually Brother
Brother's real name is Delta
Delta is the son of Sigma (future concioussness from ZTD) and Diana
They also have another child – Phi
yes, you read that right, also Phi's actually a redhead who died her hair white
How that works. Decision game houses an abandoned time machine of a supposedly alien origin (yes, really), which was unearthed sometime at the beginning of the 20th century. It doesn't actually transport YOUR body in time, though, rather it makes a copy of you, which is THEN transported in time. You stay the same, so you cannot actually benefit from it. It also takes like 8 months to recharge so you cannot use it whenever

In one of the endings, Diana and Sigma remain trapped in the game with no help coming. They endure it for months, Diana starts going crazy and drinking, then they have a relationship and fuck. Then they give birth to two children: Delta and Phi. Trying to save them, they send them (or rather their copies) back to the past. After copy-Delta and copy-Phi arrive at the beginning of the 20th century as babys, they are found by scientists. Copy-phi then undergoes the same process AGAIN (for science) and gets transported to 2008 (now it's copy-copy-phi). So we have Delta and Phi presumably dying as babies during the Decision Game, copy-Delta and copy-Phi going to 1900s, and copy-copy-Phi going to 2008 and growing up there (and she is actually raised by copy-Phi).
That way, Delta/Brother is actually a very old man (120+) during ZTD while Phi (who is a copy-copy-Phi), Diana and Sigma are still young

Delta cannot SHIFT, but he can MINDHACK, which means reading the thoughts of people. He also can make them do very very simple actions from a distance, like pull a trigger, but nothing more
He only knows about time-jumping and everything else by reading the thoughts of SHIFTers around the world, he cannot actually percieve other timelines or SHIFT himself

According to Brother, in the other timelines, some religious terrorist nut will start a nuclear war and destroy humanity. He doesn't know who that person is. So he unleashes Radical-6 in some of the endings in order to kill 80% of humanity, which gives a huge change of the terrorist dying. By his logic, what he's doing is justified, since 80% killed from a virus is much better than 100% killed from a nuclear attack

Yes, I said SOME of the endings. The whole bit about the inevitablity of the Radical-6 in all time and space as established in VLR is bullshit, since now there are definitely infinite timelines established. Which, basically, completely nullifies the point of VLR and ZTD. There is basically one timeline that leads to VLR, others don't

Q is actually Delta's handle, he was first pretending to be a deaf and blind old man in a wheelchair and he was officially the 9th player. When people talk about Q, they mean Delta, we also see some of the stuff from his eyes/camera-eyewear, in a VLR-twist-fashion
The kid isn't actually Q. His name is Sean, so that makes him the unofficial 10th player and that's why everybody flips their shit a bit, but the game only hints toward it before the ending
Sean is also not a kid in a helmet, but rather just a robot created by Delta/Brother

There aren't 3 compunds. The three teams all inhabit the same bullding but in different times, sleeping at other times

Entering the final codes inititates the self-destruction sequence, Delta dies. The team's only choice to save themselves is to jump to another timeline before shit blows-up. Then they suddenly start contemplating whether it's ok to kill their alternate-timeline counterparts (since they swap), despite doing that throughout VLR and ZTD

They jump to the beginning of the game again, but rather to the timeline with the right coin. So, after Team1 wins in the first ending, they actuallly get sent off to another timeline and die

Now it's a fresh start, like the beginning of the game. The team shits of Delta, then says they'll find the religious nut themselves without Radical-6. Delta comes out and says it was his plan ALL ALONG, since now they saw some shit in other timelines and that gave them the resolve to try and save the world. His another goal was to ensure that he and Phi get born, since time-loop

Zero says he cannot take the blame since he didn't actually experience any other timelines, he only KNEW about that. Which means in this timelime he dindu do nuffin, cause he is not a SHIFTer. He still offers to kill him, but the game ends cuts out before the decision moment, so everything ends on a clillhanger with all the characters cheesely proclaiming that they'll use FRIENDSHIP to try and save the world from destruction TOGETHER

Literally anything else and everything that happens with all the other characters is non-existant or irrelevant

Cancer incarnate

What?

I want to kill niggers.

Actually it would be worse if you don't know why.

Great character that was meant to represent serious issues so many young men have to deal with in life, completely misunderstood, every point made absolutely ignored and just ultimately brushed aside for the sake of the shitty "friendship is power" motif.

The weird thing is that Pagan is treated as the villain of the story but by the end of the game he isn't really considered as bad as some of the others

Like throughout the game you're expected to side with either Sabal or Amita. Who are the two leaders of the Golden Path. Sabal is a conservative who is more religious, and Amita is less religious and more interested in getting into the drug trade, since she wants to rise the country out of poverty.

If you side with Sabal towards the end of the game he turns the place into a religious theocracy and murders all of his opponents. If you side with Amita she turns the primary export into narcotics and has child workers.

It really is a game that tries to point out that violent uprisings rarely actually make a country better.

I just realized this thread is about palestine.

I had someone lose their shit at me when I explained this to them. Adachi really didn't do anything wrong, and he was right, he didn't kill anybody, their own insecurities and shadows did.

It makes matters worse when the "TRUE ENDING" happens, and I feel even worse about the fact that he was essentially manipulated. I really didn't like Persona 4 too much, MC was smooth-mc-cool even when you're playing as a sperg.

Persona 3's MC never really felt "Cool" even when he got all da pucci, and it's characters felt a bit more believable.

instead what most people got out of it was "lol adachi is a fucking loser"

The only real person he seemed to care about was Dojima, and Dojima treated him like shit most of the time.

Well you couldn't be more wrong, because 95% of people saying what I'm saying are heavily armed people who will actually defend their own lives. Secondly, you're legitimately a fucking retarded person if you think in the wild west type society there unreasonably little safety for people or something, things were fine, in fact much better than they are now. Much less crime back then because much less nonwhites back then, and because the people were actually allowed to clean the filth out from society.

Typical leftist scum. You rather want "safety" provided by the government, in other words being their slave in exchange for a long life, than safety provided by yourself accompanied with freedom.

Every single one of you are pathetic. You should be ashamed for putting anything before freedom.

Good thing you vermin will be gone soon.

Leftist subhuman samefags to pretend like there are several who have his stance.

Anarchy? Who said anything about anarchy? Do you think USA had "full blown anarchy" before it was seized by the Jews? In the 1700 to early 1900's? What are you stupid?

This is why everyone wants to have the world purged of you leftists.

Now I am reminded why I don't bother coming to Holla Forums that often, this place is infested with subhumans from Holla Forums who think their opinions matter.

user, Holla Forums is the next door on the left.

HOLY SHIT, am I laughing
Especially the safety provided by myself.
Yeepekay ay pardner! Tell me, if I'm holding a rifle, and guarding myself, and my neighbour is holding a rifle and guarding himself, and basically everybody is guarding himself with his own rifle…
Who will put down his rifle for a a few days to plow the land?
Who will put down his rifle the heal the sick?
Who will put down his rifle to FUCKING SLEEP?
See, I entirely agree that people should be allowed to keep guns. But your argument is the other extreme of the spectrum, where delusional idiot genuinely belive that "hurr, guns will fix it"
No you fucking idiot, guns don't solve everything. They'll give you safety, but a gun won't give you food, it won't heal you and it won't let you sleep because guess what: if you're not hodling that rifle at your window, it won't shoot niggers trying to rob you on it's own.
Instead, I can sleep safely because I know that the police at my zone aren't imcompetent jackasses.
Maybe near where you live the average police officer has a family tree that doesn't fork. Though shit, move out. Or use your own advice and fix it with a gun. Works for niggers, doesn't it? Should work rather nicely for you awell.

Holla Forums has recently become infested with frogposting refugees from 4chan who unironically worship a meme.

However theirs is such an empty religion they must salvage other religious ideas and phrases to seem relevant.

Holla Forums is never going to go away, you deal with it or leave

Wow, it's almost like nobody has ever really played Persona 4.
Adachi’s views on life were not what the game was trying to portray as "evil." The thing is, the observations Adachi makes about mankind and society are technically correct, but you are meant to realize that his way of dealing with reality is morally twisted and immature.
So let’s review. First, Adachi claimed that it was the TV world (the collective unconsciousness) that killed Mayumi Amano and Saki Konishi. Adachi, like a lot of criminals, justified his actions by claiming that everyone is rotten and would do the same if they had the opportunity. Then, Adachi went on to say that police officers are hardly “agents of justice” and that many of them only became part of the force because they would gain the legal right to carry a gun (this is Japan we’re talking about). Again, Adachi absolves himself of guilt by pointing to the immoral actions of others, but he essentially said that he became a police officer because he was drawn by the allure of power.
This is not the mindset of a mature person.
Then Adachi explains his views on reality: life is boring and hard, and only a few really make it. This true enough. Adachi also talks about the hopelessness one feels at this realization. Now here’s the part where Adachi proves that his entire character is antithetical to the themes of the game: he has already arrived at the truth, and now he wishes he never saw the truth in the first place.
Let's consider the investigation team's reaction to Adachi's monologue
The party members never disagree with Adachi’s baseline. They do, however, take issue with Adachi rejecting reality so hard that he turned into a shithead murderer and now welcomes the end of the world. And sure, the investigation team are still young and they do make some bold claims to Ameno-sagiri, but they’re still doing a lot better than actual manchild Adachi over here. Or did you not catch the lesson we were all supposed to learn from the Shadow confrontations, which was that the truth is ugly sometimes but you’ve still got to deal with it?

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No offense user but that sounds utterly retarded, keeping a rifle or a sidearm on you isn't some extremely impeding object you have to discard to do anything you can just keep it holstered and you're fine provided you follow proper gun safety. Another thing is that the police can take 6 minutes or longer to respond to a 911 call, that's way too fucking long you need them right now not 6 minutes later. If you're in the country 15 minutes to half an hour if they're trying to get there as fast as possible f they're not then it'll be roughly 2+ hours (personal experience).

Fuck Superhot and fuck Neon Chrome. Particularily Super Hot for being so smug about it
what a piece of shit

What the fuck are you rambling on about

King Richard the lion heart was a dirty frenchman who couldn't even speak English and people loved him

Nah you dumb nigger, the tribunal became gods by stealing the heart. If you read all of the conversation topics with Vivec he tells you straight up that the peoples faith in the temple has been waning with the rise of dagoth ur, and that the tribunals powers have been waning as a result. Also the ghostfence is powered by the dunmers faith in the temple and the tribunal as well, not their souls. Straight from the game. You sure are stupid, read a fucking book nigger.

Harry is far to rich and drunk to be PC

user, just give the prince of sealand a call i'm sure he'd love to help you out Honestly if someone from Holla Forums tried to become king I would join him in a heart beat

waifus obviously

Literally in-game propaganda you double nigger.
The real reason why the Tribunal were losing their power was because they could no longer travel to Red Mountain to bathe in it's power since Dagoth Ur had captured it. All this talk of the faith of the Dunmer people was literal propaganda you dumb nigger.
And The Ghostfence is a bigger version of what Dunmer used to use to guard their tombs until Vivec took them all away to seal off Red Mountain. Learn the lore before you talk shit.

are you implying it isnt? nigger you dont even play video games if you think anything else matters. leave this board forever.

Go back and play the game again you dumb nigger bitch, and pay attention to Vivec's answers in conversation. The heart is what gives them their immortality. He mentions how they are no longer immortal because of dagoth ur, because they can't go back and visit the heart. Hence why dagoth ur keeps coming back when you kill him at red mountain until the heart is destroyed, because dagoth ur took control of the heart. But because Vivec achieved chim he still has certain god powers that almelexia and sotha sil have lost since they haven't visited the heart since the second era.

The propaganda is actually that everything is fine, because if the dunmer lose even more faith in the temple and their false gods the ghost fence would essentially cease functioning and dagoth ur and his blight armies would be able to invade the entire continent. But yeah I'm sure Vivec would lie to you saying he is no longer immortal and is losing his ability to keep dagoth ur at bay, knowing that you will probably want revenge on him for killing you. But apparently some autist on an image board can read between the lines and understand the deeper meaning without any sort of evidence, my mistake.

Guess who gets all the best health care, nutrition and personal trainers? Rich people.

On the contrary, this means less accountability and nothing is stopping a series of retards to get elected. Welcome to modern Europe where this has already happened.