Ironmarch self destructs

Uzbek warlord has a hissy fit after a year of isis shooters in AWD and self destructs.
All of his content is gone, even the few goodies

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nationalvanguard.org/2015/06/dr-william-pierce-on-the-difference-between-national-socialism-and-fascism/
siegeculture.com/vault/
mospat.ru/en/documents/social-concepts/ii/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

oh no where will we plan our secret operations against (((trs)))
:^)

Great all those white mudslime converts are going to come here now

Maybe FSB took his computer?

Rope culture had interesting content sometimes.

I remember their Trump article I was excited to read because I was never all that trusting of him. I couldn't even get half way threw there was so much meme speak.

Ironmarch had some decent infographics.

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Shut up antifachan !

No D&C !

Mike is Norwegian !

Very, very nice.

I thought he was "Croatuan", or did he say "Croatoan"? :^)

No, he's Norwegian !

Why are you lying ?

You're probably ironmarch !

His wife is also not jewish !

Im going to give you the benefit of the doubt and only report you for ironic shitposting.

It's ironic shitposting.

Dont do that, its the first step towards cuckchan.

he is right in the sense that ironic shitposting is still stitposting

That sucks, hope it goes back up. One of the few non-faggot sites out there.

Ive seen so much low energy TRS shilling in the past few days, I genuinely wasnt sure if he was just joking.

(checked)

They'd have more energy if they took a stronger stance against traps, tbh

They also had an archive of fascist books you can download for free. I hope it comes back.

This isn't really a good thing. Slavros a shit but those sites were actually useful resources. I hope they come back up.

wew, so much for your little salafist cult, CIA niggers

Wasn't there just that one who shot his comrades?

I was wondering why I hadn't heard anything about IM in a while. They don't play with the other kids so I don't know what they do.

Reported for reading and subversive anti-Trump ideas.

Yeah, it was one former AWD member (after they realized they couldn't reason with him, they kicked him out of the group, but he was still on the lease for the house some members were renting) who shot two others.

As for what IM's been doing, they (specifically AWD) republished SIEGE, and actually found James Mason and got him to start writing again. They also recently got access to James Mason's old papers, and are working on republishing a lot of old ANP stuff, like Rockwell's private photo album. They're doing plenty.

Some of the other admins have the archive of IM and RopeCulture (thank God), so it's unlikely the materials were seized by the FSB. I don't wanna speculate tbh. I genuinely liked them.

It's honestly kind of too bad.

IronMarch actually had alot of potential. Some of the people I met there were really top people. People who were actively living a fascist lifestyle, actively involved in the struggle but who were incredibly well read on the topics and could hold a discussion.

Then there was the other 90% of the people on there. When I joined I was invited to a nazbol chat on discord immediately and it was literally the most autistic thing I've ever encountered. It seriously made imageboard autism look tame.
I know Slavros was becoming more strict with accepting applications, but Slavros himself was kind of nuts to begin with. AWD could have been great if they hadn't made some stupid mistakes.
Antipodean resistance looks to be absolutely awesome. Strangely, the Australian shitposters managed to create the greatest ironmarch related offshoot organization.

Someone needs to try again. Preferably not an Uzbek hapa with delusions of grandeur. Because despite their faux-edgy shitposting there was a genuinely good community there, even if it was only a fraction of the people there.

That crazy Uzbek hapa was unironically one of the greatest Fascist ideologues of the last twenty years. His writings were instrumental in turning me from a big-tent alt-righter to a hardcore Revolutionary National Socialist. Imma be dumping some of their 6th Anniversary art here in a bit, that shit was awesome.

Don't be so quick to count Adam's Waffles out. They've done a lot since the Dylan incident.

I actually downloaded a pdf of SIEGE a week ago, just uploaded it to /pdfs/ in case IM takes a while to get back online. Looks like they're doing real behind the scenes work instead of rallies and other ego boosting stuff which is good.

>>>/pdfs/7501
hopefully this works, never crosslinked to a specific post before just boards

The SIEGE Project was hosted independently from IM last time I checked. Still, better safe than sorry.

Maybe not the place to discuss, but wtf happened to Odin ? Is he facing prison ? Last I heard he was being tried for terrorism charges and posessing materials for making a nuclear weapon.
Obviously this is overblown horseshit, they probably found some old fire detectors or something, but the name AWD probably won't really help his case.

what a fucking shitshow, I like AWD, hope they learn from their mistakes and recover.

Was in the news a while back. He refused to rat out AWD (atta boy) and pled guilty to the weapons charges in exchange for them dropping the terrorism charges. I forget what his sentence was.

Picked this up over there. Good guide to arguing with commies. Worth the read.
Hammer of the Patriot by Zeiger
>>>/pdfs/7502

Source for the quote?

actual trs-shilling always includes some flavor of "x has done more than you ever will kike/virgin/etc.. "

to be fair discord is magnet for the autstic. i've yet to encounter any channel that wasn't host to furries and crossdressing faggots.

better then a Turkish Rachel Madow fanboy

Looks good I'll check it out, thanks user.

Not a good thing. Unlike (((trs))) and other shitty alt-right websites, Ironmarch was one of the few websites that saw beyond the left/right dichotomy and actually embraced National Socialism, or at least Fascism. Also they had many resources and archives. I hope they come back soon

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Don't forget my two personal favorite shill lines of theirs:

1) "Yeah but what are YOU doing for muh movement?"
2) "Name a pro-white organization that you like other than TRS" this one is deflection away from the phoniness of their organization. It's done so that they can move on to argue about the legitimacy of other organizations instead of TRS. Stop taking the bait on this one you niggers. You aren't obligated to satiate their curiosity about which groups you think are legit or not.

A rundown of (((d14d87))):

lol

Antimony Group (one of Ironmarch's projects) is still up. laraj.ca/AGwiki/

Has quite a nice collection of books, most of which are fascism related. Worth checking out if you're looking for reading material and don't mind .pdf's.

kek

wewladdy

Back to the bog, buttslammer.
>>>/trs/

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Holla Forums Holla Forums mods are absolute shit though. They do not allow red pill threads.

MUH BOOOOKS!

Fuck, just yesterday i made an account hoping to get in the community.

Ropeculture had a lot of potential too.

Hopefully they will come back, i haven't archived their website with HTTrack yet.

I at least hope you aren't doing it for free

Link to Twitter? Can't find it manually.

Other indications of TRS shilling:

Alright, from the metaphorical radio chatter I'm hearing, what happened was Slavros decided that Ironmarch had reached its goal of "Forging The 21st Century Fascist" by creating a unified theory/doctrine of Fascism and creating groups all over the world, from National Action (Rest In Piccadilly) in the UK to the Antipodean Resistance in the Land Down Under. He decided that at this point, IM had stagnated, and might actually be holding people back by letting them take refuge in shitposting online instead of actually getting out and living the Fascist Lifestyle. In short, he shut down the websites, handed the archives over to a reliable lieutenant, and is now going to do A Squire's Trial IRL.

But that graphic is trash.

Fascism is just civic nationalism in a nice uniform.
>nationalvanguard.org/2015/06/dr-william-pierce-on-the-difference-between-national-socialism-and-fascism/

Q: Well, is it proper for National Socialists to refer to themselves as “fascists?”
Q: But I thought that both Fascism and National Socialism were highly centralized, authoritarian and strongly nationalistic forms of government, with only slight differences between the ways they operated.
Q: What are some of these differences?

Fuck's sake… Let's try that again:

But that graphic is trash.

Fascism is just civic nationalism in a nice uniform.
>nationalvanguard.org/2015/06/dr-william-pierce-on-the-difference-between-national-socialism-and-fascism/

Q: Liberals often refer to National Socialists as “fascists.” Are they correct in this practice?

Q: Well, is it proper for National Socialists to refer to themselves as “fascists?”

Q: But I thought that both Fascism and National Socialism were highly centralized, authoritarian and strongly nationalistic forms of government, with only slight differences between the ways they operated.

Q: What are some of these differences?
“The state is a means to an end. Its end lies in the preservation and advancement of a community of physically and spiritually similar creatures… States which do not serve this purpose are misbegotten monstrosities in fact.” (II:2)

Some link with exact time?

Checked for banned and still salty.

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Trying to derail with a semantic argument? What the hell, I'll bite.

As much as I love Dr. Pierce work, he's sorely in the wrong on this point, for two main reasons. Firstly, he takes a downright one-dimensional view of Italian Fascism, ignoring the evolution of Italian racial theory due to philosophical influence from Evola and diplomatic influence from Germany. Secondly, he completely ignores all the other Fascist movements during and after that period.

When we say "Fascism", what we mean is all those ideologies and doctrines which seek to bring human society into alignment with Natural Law and Eternal Truth, through various means. Fascism is an expression of a volk's character. Since the Germans had such a strong racial identity (and a necessity for one), National Socialism's main strength was in its racial theory. But all the Fascist movements, like the German National Socialists, the Romanian Legionaries, the Spanish Falangists, the Brazilian Integralists, and all the others, are grounded in a fundamental philosophy that expresses itself differently through each people.

LEL

Hes actually not wrong, and he was a National Socialist ideological officer in the American Nazi Party under Rockwell, worked on National Socialist World. Read the pic related:

Goebbels disagrees with you too.

What really rummages my Geordies is that there's some great articles debunking the idea that National Socialism and Fascism are completely separate, but they were all hosted on Ironmarch.

And there were several contemporary NS philosophers who disagreed with Goebbels. I'll find the relevant citations when I get off work.

Ill appreciate seeing them, but as far as contemporary National Socialists go, none of them are Goebbels or were there to understand it with his genius.

Like, it was his job to make sure people understood it, and how they perceived it lol. Hard to disagree with pretty much anything he says, given that.

Slavros, an Epilogue of Lindsey and Arthur

what can you expect from the angry Tengri…

can't into typesetting

You also have the example in Rosenbergs criticism of Spengler when he calls his ideas fascist.

I have another really good one but that one is on my other comupter and im going to bed.

nvm, found it.

They were cucks on the woman question.

Ill have to sit and read those, but as Goebbels points out - National Socialism is so much more than Fascism, an entire way of life. Fascism is just an ideology and governance system. National Socialism is something that pretty much anyone can embrace. You have the SS being trained in National Socialism, and it makes them tougher, and more cohesive and prepared to handle things that come at them etc. Their entire way of looking at things and perception is that of a National Socialist etc. Everything they do is as a National Socialist.
I know more about National Socialism than I do about Fascism, I really cant put up a first rate argument to be honest but I tend to trust Goebbels, in whatever he says. Ill read through that stuff for sure though, as I said.(Rosenberg clashed with Goebbels at some points, too)

I would just put it like fascism is hegelian and NatSoc is wagnerian. Mussolini went into damage control after the success of NatSoc and went for help from Evola and that really shows you the ideals of fascism. I know IM had some infograph with mussolini takling about race but in my mind he is talking about race in the same manner as, for example, Horatio F talks about the "Venetian race".

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Ironically enough, didn't Evola dislike Mussolini and Italian fascism?

Yes, he also disliked NS because he considered himself more radical and redpilled than them and viewed them as cucks.

Okay you win, youve read far more about this than I have so I cant really argue against that lol. I dont even know what Wagnerian is supposed to mean, given hes a composer. Apparently his world view. He was Hitlers favorite composer, I know that. I think it benefits us to stifle the antifa rhetoric, and claim "We arent even fascists at all!". Makes them look ignorant, when they oppose "Nazis", and "Nazis" arent even fascists.

Oh you sweet summer child, wait until you learn we're socialists.

Its a fair argument lad, as fascism is just civic nationalism.

So, your rebuttal to Pierce's fully-supported and obvious-as-can-be points are "nah man, you're ignoring the evolution of it!" and "nther movements aping the fascists might have contributed an ethnic/racial component (thus defining them as something other than fascists)".
Seems legit.

Nah, that's just rhetoric and nonsense. Its trying to avoid definition, because fascism doesn't espouse an ethnic/racial component, and without it, such a system cannot be claimed to espouse Natural Law, let alone an Eternal Truth.

Not really. A strong racial component is invariably required - America has proven that the assumption of no present or future need for such reiteration in this context will not stand, and that a strong racial identity component in any such system of governance is thus requisite.

Without an ethnic/racial core its all just civic nationalism lad, and comparison between the Roman Legionaries and the National Socialists in terms of ideology is rather ridiculous.
The Legionaries espoused no racial brotherhood - they drew from all over the Empire. The Falangists can hardly be called a racialist movement in a noble sense, given they basically promoted the idea that Spanish miscegenation had created a higher caste of men and was more of a Catholic identity issue. As for the Integralists, their slogan was literally "Union of all races and all peoples".

Basically, what you're doing is associating the racialist views of those who associated with fascist organizations as being equivalent to those organizations promoting those views, and that's disingenuous. Of the groups you named, none possessed or promoted in the vein of a racial/ethnic identity - all promoted in the context of a state (I cannot even call such a nation, for a nation is a thing of blood), not the ethnicity/race.
Only the National Socialists stand apart in this regard.

Its not a matter of what some author said, its a matter of the core of the ideology - and at its core, fascism is about holding forth a civic entity as paramount and priority. Thats called civic nationalism. And it will not suffice.

Who?

Nazis were hippies, man. That's why the Westphalia bus is symbolic of that era. They loved nature and were encouraged to explore it.

Hippies were yet another subverted thing by kikes.
These fuckers tooke everything good the nazis did and rebranded it into absolute garbage. Now everyone who wants to keep animals or nature in a better condition in general is considered a degenerate 420 treehugger mongrel.

many different forms of fascism out there you know.

That's what they do.

Their publisher shoah'd all their shit, including the new copies of the Stormtrooper and Siege. The new edidtion of Siege has some new info and editing even from the IM digital edition, so it's worth grabbing if you can still find it.

Incidentally, did anyone happen to grab the Stormtrooper reprints? Scans of those would be something amazing, as I was planning to buy them for myself this christmas before they got jewed.

The pdfs are still up
siegeculture.com/vault/

Good Lord, Romanian not Roman. He is referring to the Iron Guard, read up on 'em lad. They were brilliant.

Their forum was full of faggots. A lot of their ideology was proletarian in nature, and they seemed to have fallen to reddit-tier anti-Americanism. Although that is the sight that gave me pdfs to people like Evola and Serrano, so I'm indebted to them. I wish them the best.

This isn't the thread to talk about religion. But it's important to say that there are perfectly fine Muslims like Assad and Hezbollah (some of whom are white), Guenon was also a Sufi. So Fascism is not so much an anti-muslim ideology, but an anti-asiatic anti-barbarian ideology.

Fascism is a worldview not an ideology.

If you need them I have them, let me know.
Truth. Regret I didn't save more when I could.

This so much, a lot of entry level guys hate on Religion of Cuck™ all the time but when you get past a certain point of redpilling you come full circle and realize it's a noble religion and many of them are deserving of respect.

Whatever /tok/. Your reclaim the hippie bullshittery is retarded. Watch what happens.

Shill.

It would probably go well until the CIAniggers show up with their drugs that have a string of letters and numbers for a name.

Explain this shit. Seems really (((convenient))).

Go away shitskin your religion is disgusting

Yorue not a nationalist if youre a zionist. That makes you a Jewish nationalist, and a traitor.

You should probably lurk until you realize why saying "Were socialists" on its own is wrong. Socialism doesnt describe National Socialism. Its not marxist socialism, and a socialist is not a National Socialist. If you go around saying "Im a socialist!" thats not National Socialism.

and yea, I guess I will need to dig that one out of a book so Im not just looking like Im pulling it out of my ass. Eventually.

Go back to the desert you dunecoon

TRS pls leave

Not really having much luck. Must be after 26 because thats about when Hitler explained the whole concept to the point Goebbels understood it and was enthused. He points out that National Socialism can only be described by the words "National Socialism" and any other term is damaging, and misleading, including simply calling themselves "socialists".

I think its in the secret conferences book where he outlines it to the press, not to call it anything but National Socialism. Its a rarer book and I didnt highlight anything, so its really hard to find.

Anyone have any updates?

Still nothing i guess.

Good. They were fucking crazy. A few guys died cuz of that site.

Literally the edgiest antisemite neonazi roleplay site I've ever seen.

This person has no idea what hes talking about. I mean tge person writing the article, not the poster. They're using the modern definition of "state". Not the definition as intended. "The state" literally means "the people" when read in the proper context. It's supposed to be read like it's written in the second amendment as well… "A free state" means a free people, not a free government.

If that's truly the case, then I agree with his decision. As long as all that information is repackaged elsewhere, this will be a net positive.

utter autism

I wonder what will happen when he returns.

Enjoy your poz parties

Oh, my bad.

That sounds awful, and utterly anti-racialist, conceptually in conflict with NatSoc racial focus - which is ALWAYS the appropriate focus; there being no scenario wherein there is an excuse for exclusion of such focus. In any case, the claim of not being applicable for comparison stands rather obviously.

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Another shit graphic.

Link?

that sucks

I havent read up on it, and I definitely not a Christian, but that doesnt sound so horrible. Rather interesting, really.. and pretty fascistic. National Socialism was never meant for anything except Germany at the time, we really are naturally stretching its boundaries by applying it to anything except Germany with the Reich and the Fuhrer. There only could be one Reich, its not supposed to be a term applied to anything else. Only the one Fuhrer could exist, and its Germanys etc.
Anyways, for Romania, maybe focusing on the racial aspect wasnt the absolute best thing to do ideologically and Christianity was a better tie to bind them. I dont know much about their situation. I imagine it wouldnt be a Christianity in any way resembling the Jewish drivel they pump out these days.

Orthodox Christianity is somewhat based. They explicitly support ethnonationalism in their "social concept": mospat.ru/en/documents/social-concepts/ii/

And the Iron Guard was racialist and fully anti-semitic. In that, they were in full agreement with Germany.

Yes. In Orthodox Christianity, an "autocephalous church" as part of the "Orthodox communion" is by definition a church of a distinct people. The Constantinople Patriarch is merely a first among equals, unlike the pope.

Last year's attempt to (((bring together))) the Orthodox church with other, i.e. heretic Christian denominations, was gloriously boycotted by several autocephalous churches, and resulted in nothing.

t. Orthodox Christian

So what actually happened to them? I remember there was a discord screencap floating around stating slavros left to write for other people, according to "anonymous sources" so take that as you will.
Is there any place to contact them?

This is pretty bad. Outside of 8ch IM was the only decent public reactionary/fascist/natsoc community out there. I'm especially going to miss Rope Culture and the free PDFs.

Did they actually post a unified theory? I've mostly based my understanding of fascism/natsoc on Mussolini, Goebels, Hess and Hitler. I'm curious what a "unified theory" would look like.

Nothing wrong with telling petite American patriotards to fuck off.
American libertarians are some of the most kosher bootlickers around.

Good for them to refuse the degeneracy.

Agreed on lolbergtarians being kike tools, but "cheesy" patriotism is part of American culture.

It would be fine if there was something to be proud of but what is there? Being ZOG slaves? Consumerism and materialism? Fucking over Western Civilisation's last hope for survival and colonising the stars?

BEGONE, KIKE

There's a zdoom modding channel which isn't furry nor crossdresser infested.

Fun fact: religion is one of the categories that is protected under international anti-genocide law by the UN (they dont actually enforce their laws though, when its whites suffering). Its just as much a genocide if you go after a religion, like Canada does when it takes children from Christian families who believe in the Christian definition of marriage - as if you go around hacking people up with machetes for their ethnicity or skin color or whatever.

literal 56% face

There are limits on religion outside of theocracies. It's the reason I can't declare Jihad against the local synagogue, and then say I'm being religiously oppressed when the police come. You have to prove that it's a purposeful attempt to destroy a religion in order to qualify as genocide. Although you're right that they'd never enforce it if whites/christians were the ones on the receiving end. But you can bet your ass that if Poland made a white nationalist Christian theocracy that NATO would bomb them to the stone age.

Thats why I said taking kids away from the group and moving them to another group (they got caught putting Christians in Muslim families, too, who force converted the children to Religion of Cuck™). Thats a specifically outlined form of genocide.

jesus christ how horrifying

TRS is making bank now. They have a steadily increasing subscriber base.

Doxxing by antifa/autists here was the greatest thing that happened to them thus far.

I actually have no problem with trs or any of the others. It's still helps to get people away from cuckservativism, which is the bigger issue. On a strategic level it's best if they do their thing and natsocs do their things.

Theres certain core values you need to hold, someone compared it to when you go through forms and theres a box you always check by default, and now suddenly people dont want you to check it anymore. Faggotry is not acceptable. Niggers can not be a part of our society. Jews are not our friends. Anyone promoting faggotry might as well be promoting pedophilia, or beastiality, or men getting their nuts cut off. Being okay with faggotry is almost the same tier as being okay with men who get a vasectomy, or who abstain from reproduction for whatever reason. Promoting it, as acceptable, and something we should embrace is even worse. You might as well be TRYING to stop white children from existing, not just tolerating others who do. That puts them square on the side of the anti-whites.

TRS opposes white genocide by:

Yea, no. Thats the enemy.

literally none of your greentext applies, so what the fuck are you basing your stance on

there are legitimate criticisms to be made, so how about you make an effort

They were making fun of Boehners daughter for burning coal like 2 weeks ago on FTN

All of his greentext applies.

when none of it is true, how?

It was Mike Cernovich. He doxed TRS way back in August 2016, held onto the info and dumped it here around the time Trump got inaugurated to try to drive Holla Forums away from TRS. He even dropped little breadcrumbs along the way. If you had watched his videos, you'd know he was outing Mike Enoch for months before the dox dropped. There was one video back in September 2016 where he specifically said "my investigators found out that one of the biggest alt-right communities is led by an ugly fat new yorker with a jewish wife. i'm not going to out him…yet"

TRSodomite, get out. Go love jews with Kike Enoch.

All of it is true, they have done all of this at least once.

trs is on their hitlist and all tactics are valid for them, including using Holla Forums as a base for attacks and gaslighting.
They respect anons so little that they seriously think that we'll stumble on anything in significant numbers, knowing that randomly asked anons will have a significant contingency of trs listeners and donators.
eceleb discussion is discouraged precisely because it's that much easier to gaslight a board's "consensus", not because we're all puritains who never indulge in such things.

boner's daughter fucks niggers? that's hilarious. i always hated that hack.

slavros was always a larping mutt. reminds me of pic related.

Autism is nothing but an elaborate oven dodger psyop

A comment like yours is very curious. I disagree with it 100%, not because of the kike reference but the fact that you think autism is fake and it's just a "psyop". But…if I call out your comment, I will inevitably be called a "kike" and will probably get banned by imkikefy for being "mentally ill jew joshua goldberg".

8/pol/ is such a fucking insane hugbox now. I didn't see it when I spent 12 hours a day heremany months ago but it's crystal clear now. Most of the people here are mentally ill. You bitch about Jews all day )and rightfully so) while ignoring that the top mod here is a Jew with leftypol ties)

okay chaim

Pagans in 201x are just people who played too much skyrim.

what is your ethnicity?

Mom's Scotch, dad's French Canadian. How about you?

Correction: "the autism spectrum" is what you claim. Actual autism, the kind that fucks people into being poster children for legalizing euthanize, is quite real (I should know, I've spent the last week at work dealing with an autistic man who can not even communicate beyond yelling, grabbing at things, and who spends 99% of his time playing a toy snake and just twisting it in his hands… dudes in his mid 20s and needs to be gassed, he is nothing but a drain on society and will never provide even a net benefit of happiness to those around him, even that will be over shadowed to a huge degree by the constant frustration and tedium taking care of him he causes to those who care about him, even they would be better off in the long run if he died right this second).

But "ass-burgers" and the like? Yeah thats just some faggot who didnt socialize enough as a child or get raised properly and spent all their time in self isolation and so doesnt know how to act around others, maybe had abusive or bad parents in one way or another, or so on. The rest of the "spectrum" can be seen as nothing more than incredibly detail focused people who manage things and see the world through a different lens than the average person, but could easily still be a normal social person. But then (((they))) show up and claim they're broken people and suddenly everyone treats them like freaks which just makes socializing even harder for them and so they become worse.

German and English. Why do you consider Paganism larping? You think your religion is any less ridiculous, any less worthy of respect? Christians lost my respect a long time ago, I don't know, around the time you lets Jews tell you how to worship and you revoked the canonization of Saints who were sacrificed by the Jews to appeal to your masters. The rampant pedophilia didn't help either. Until you don crusader robes and retake your holy land (and shit you might have trouble retaking your own damn land, its funny you even have the audacity to worry about some shitskin-ridden desert thousands of miles away from your own home while Muslims and niggers are invading us en masse and Jews have completely taken over the higher levels of media and government, I'm glad that as a Pagan I care more about my fatherland than some shit-ridden "Holy Land" that I will never see in my life, and don't want to) you're even more of a LARPer than I am. Until your Pope ceases his endless, cuckolded faggotry and defends his own people from Saracen mudshit rapists, you are a LARPer. Until you establish yourselves as the dominant order of the West, you are LARPers. You have no right or reason to mock my faith, which is genuine and rooted in the culture of the Aryans, while your dying faith rots and decays every moment, a half-baked, pick and choose faith where you reject the Jewish elements and pretend that all of Christianity is Paradise Lost and Roman Gothic Cathedrals. You are a dying order, and the reason is because you've forgotten what makes you European, what makes you white, what makes you Aryan. I'll give you a hint; its not that fucking Jew tome that you uphold as the apex of literature.

Every pagan I've encountered online or otherwise is infatuated with elder scrolls 5, but I'll give it to you that they're cut from the same cloth as the people who'll post cool pictures of Templar knights on this board and pretend that that's a sacrament or something.
I'm Baptist and not Catholic, I have absolutely no interest in Jerusalem (not until Christ returns, purges it, and makes it anew). My father always said that if he died and saw the pope, he'd know he was in Hell. I realize a great part of my religion has gone very soft, failing to preach the whole oracles of God, ignoring any scripture that condemns the hedonistic life we live in my country. Instead they preach an all-love gospel, where the broad road leads to heaven as long as you've "got a good heart." I hope to raise my family to follow the virtue and holiness found in the tome that's the most precious book I've ever read.

fair enough then
I realize the LARPagan meme exists for a reason, there are many right wing pagans (Jack Donovan for example) that just make an embarrassment out of thousands of years of lore and knowledge and thats just within the right wing. I do not acknowledge Wiccans or Neopagan leftist fags as true pagans, most of them reject Pagan literature as "rooted in patriarchal societies". I have no words for the unfathomable hatred that exists in me for Jewy looking Satanic faggots and fat lard-cows that claim to be pagan, then claim that Plato was a sexist and Vikings were homophobic, but also gay. I assume you have similar feelings for the types of Christians that interpret "Jesus in a manger" as "we should let millions of Muslims flood our countries".

I have no problems with you Christians other than our theological disagreements and I wish you luck in raising a family, I have the same aspirations. Remember our enemy is the Jew and the Muslim, I do not care for divide and conquer tactics being employed on white men.
I know Pagans aren't a large group and that dividing Christians against Pagans won't be the death knell of the right wing, but it will be the start of Jews manipulating whites to fight each other rather than the enemy and will lead to much uglier things.

Take a lesson from Pagan history if you will; when Caesar invaded Gaul he would pay some of the Gallic tribes to be mercenaries and fight against other Gallic tribes, promising them riches and protection from the Germanii under Rome. Some Gallic tribes were demoralized by this and insisted to Vercingetorix, the Gallic War-chief, that all of Gaul must surrender to Rome because the only way to win was for all of Gaul to be united, which simply wouldn't happen because many of them were cowards and traitors (the irony of his advisors was lost on them I guess). By the time Gaul was finally united, Caesar had been occupying Gaul for almost 8 years, the damage had already been done, and whatever impressive resistance that Vercingetorix made against Caesar (and he did try, admirably so) it was in vain. Gaul ended up a Roman colony, its women were mass-raped and sold off to slavery, its people massacred by the millions and its culture ground into the dirt until they resembled Rome more than Gaul. Do not let this be your fate. Pic related is what little remains of Gaulish culture. Don't let this be all of white culture. If Muslims win, if Jews succeed in dividing white men, your legacy will be nothing but ruins, and I dont want that for white people, whether Christian or Pagan.

t. I am a d&c kike, ban my stupid non-white ass larper who thinks pic related is white

For those who don't know, pic related is the god emperor of iron march. Le 32% face Alexander Slavros.

I was responding to your pic, not that Slavros is a mongoloid larper. I was on IM for years I already know this.

Blood and Honour, brother.
While it's my sincere hope that you'll one day come to a saving faith in my Lord and Saviour, I do respect any work you do in preserving the culture and roots of our European ancestry.
I'd like to share a passage of scripture where God swore to punish and reject the people who strayed from the "old paths".

Jeremiah 6
15 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the Lord.

16 Thus saith the Lord, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

17 Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken.

18 Therefore hear, ye nations, and know, O congregation, what is among them.

19 Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, because they have not hearkened unto my words, nor to my law, but rejected it.

Fair enough. The point of the pic is still valid. Neofedoraism is festering with non-white anti-racists and mutts and sargon-like alpha centrists. It's the new atheism for people who turned their back on Dawkins and Hitchens. Right wing pagans are in a tiny minority yet you idiots will say Christianity is infested with non-whites and that's the reason to reject it.

Did anyone save the workshop articles?

Hail Victory
I do like many elements of Christianity, it is probably the least degenerate religion in the world next to Germanic Paganism. We both despise faggots, we both believe in purity before marriage and we both have concepts of Hell and divine punishment. But it is not for me.

Those passages do speak to me because the things I find most horrifying in this world are not the nigger, not the Muslim, not even the Jew, but the deterioration of culture, the forgetting of the true path, and the wanton pursuit of animal lusts over spiritual ideals. I see people engaging in this things, promoting them even, and I don't see human beings anymore. I see apes.

what does this even mean? I have never heard this term in my life, is this what they call Paganism on /christian/? That doesnt even make any sense, we have more gods than you, we are even further removed from atheism than you are.

If one were to do a percentage head-count of degenerate pagans versus right wing pagans, I'd bet money its about the same as the rate for degenerate christians versus right wing christians tbh. But I live in Commiefornia, the churches around here are especially full of faggotry.

That's a boomer thing, really.

Shlomo pls

What is the most NatSoc /1488/ form of Christianity? What is the most NatSoc religion?

I'm itching for something Jew-pozz free, preferably ancient.

I always hear Orthodox is the least pozzed church out there, but I am not Christian so don't take my word for it

Depends where you are also

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I personally am a KJV1611 purist after doing much homework on how it came to be. Few "churches" actually use it - the only one with no copyright. Most "churches" use edited and redacted scripture ©some kike usually.

Maybe this? We can't really force the white people to give up their religion.

No. Someone shopped the dox to Cernovich and he wouldn't publish it. Cernovich did enjoy the background on Enoch/Penovich and dropped some blind items on him. Enoch is a pompus, unlikeable turd and there were very few in right wing circles who were sad to see his mask ripped off.

The most NatSoc form of Christianity would be a church of one person, yourself.

lol never change TRS, this is just pathetic as usual

want to know how I know that you don't belong here

Hebrews 10
24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

That's like saying that the most NatSoc Holla Forums is no Holla Forums at all.

Matt Forney had the info too.

Enoch and TRS had made a lot of enemies on the right that were happy to see them get roasted.

Iron March was a circlejerk of about 30 autists. It wasn't relevant.

Christian Identity.

>butthurt (((fags))) will remain on here bitching

Others have said the same already, but it's always surprised me how truly hand-in-hand nationalism and Orthodox Christianity really are. There are plenty of Orthodox/Nationalist specific programs, and even a few Orthodox/Fascist ones.

B'nai B'rith BioQueen

the point is to not bring them up here, because of nitpicky gaslighting

If TRS was legitimate, Mike would have never brought his jewish wife onto the podcast, which he did multiple times. The whole thing was always a jewish lolberg LARP, but now that Eunuch was incorrectly labeled as a "neo-nazi kingpin" by people who thought he was legitimate, he has to take it a lot more seriously as it's his only source of income. It's just like how radio is the only thing Hal Turner can do anymore, even though he was an FBI informant and never a sincere WN.

How is pointing out the fact mike is a liar, gaslighting ?

For all the resentment that they generate on 8pol, it doesn't seem to be scaring off people who actually pay attention to their show and audience, the vast majority of whom already browse chans regularly.
It changes nothing to show that they have compromised pasts, by user standards, since the flow towards their sphere is happening silently among all demos aware of them. The casualness of their media output is more persuasive than any signposting away from them, it's part of their model.
Bringing them up AT ALL causes a few people per thread to sit through a few episodes to see what they're really about, especially if the tone is accusatory and nitpicky

I suppose user could be going down the audience-split route within the "alt-right" within the near future, that might still work, but the contingency has to catch the fallout on another board that they can demonstrate is outside of intel's reach, which nothing is.

It's not a compromised past, it's a constant stream of lie and backstabbing. And not just by our standards. You don't see anything wrong with a jewish man getting his jew wife to tell poetry about gassing jews to White nationalists ? You don't see anything wrong with a jewish man pretending to be Serbian, Croatian then Norwegian ? That's not nitpicking, that some Frank Collins tier fraud.

These aren't they're pasts, everything that's held against them was since they started doing their supposed WN podcast.

Oh no, what will we ever do without them?

Continue to talk shit on here like a good goy? The world spins and you're just here being ignored as fucking idiots because you behave like such. If TRS does in fact make it big, then what the fuck are you going to do?

This is your flaw as a board and always will be. Back in '14 things were better, but you faggots have anchored down so hard that you are ineffective.

wew

Ineffective ? What is effective exactly ? Last time I checked the only thing TRS could do is punch to their right, steal ideas and do shitty podcast.

Need proofs that these are official TRS policies.

So you obviously never heard about any of the groups Ironmarch spawned, National Action for instance was getting too influential in the short time it was around that it had to be banned. Or the groups it was in contact with and assisting with membership and propaganda or any of the works they produced to help people understand NS.

Hearing rumours it was shut down because of possible links to the neckbeard who shot up that church in Sutherland Springs. Weren't there reports of him wearing a skull mask? AWD related?

It would make sense. AWD openly claimed to be in favour of terrorism, and anti-Christian sentiment is also very popular in those circles. How many deaths would that make Iron March responsible for/linked to…?

If that's "true" it's simply part of a psyop. The Moncton, CA shooter was also said to be on Ironmarch.

AWD=! Ironmarch

But Iron March was where most of their operations were based, no? Their posters always featured links to Iron March. Maybe there were DMs where they planned/discussed the attack.

Highly doubt it. They have read SIEGE, they know how to do things, plus they have a discord (which is still up) were they would dm and stuff. And Slavros have as much to do as he had with National Action, and after their ban Ironmarch was still up.

Have anyone talk to the Ironmarch mods yet?

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I'm really going to miss their translated Ernst Junger archive. Did any of it survive?

If that was true the (((media))) would have been screaming its head off about how skelly mask Nazis are going to kill us all unless we ban guns and white men as soon as the bodies cooled

Shills and edgy faggots tbh

You don't have to be an AWD member to have a skull mask. Antifa have worn skull masks as well (pic related is antifa). There is 0 chance that guy was a member anyway he was a fedorafag libshit. That 4chan post that people were sperging over was found to have nothing to do with the shooting.

Everything is backed up from what i have heard and they are working on restoring it.

Shes married to one.

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Yeah I don't think a bunch of teenage weebs and Eurasians could organize something like that

Clearly they are plebs, TES3 is the superiour game.

All joking aside though, I am of Norwegian, and Scott/Irish and while my family was thoroughly and militantly cucked into atheism threatening violence on any kinsfolk who had the gall to think there may be something beyond matter. I feel the calling deeply, so powerfully that while I know not the details of my sorcereric and druidic ancestors workings I can not help but try and uncover the mysterious power in my blood. To do such I do things, which to the uninitiated may get labeled as RPing but to any one with a modicum of intuition, empathy, and esoteric knowledge it can plainly be seen as actions yearning to understand the spirituality of my ancestors.

As a side note, I abhor frivialities and ritualistic nonsense – every aspect of the ceremony must build up the energy of the space and facilitate connect nature. Anything else is LARPing, and that seems to be where a lot of them are, because the masses don't truly know spirit.

Who's "they"? Seriously hoping it's Zeiger

Stop spreading this faggot meme. The difference between fascism and national social is purely economic policy. Mussolini is not the only figure in fascism and Hitler is not the only figure of national socialism.

People on discord.

Pick one.

holy shit you fucking autist

This just sounds like the worst aspects of Alex Linder coupled with the worst aspects of Greg Johnson.

Pretty certain a worldview based on Truth demands acceptance of the reality of race. Which all fascists/fadcist movements accept.

This kind of posting is similar to the worst aspects of WN 1.0. The kind that say that everything is fine for as long as we live in an all white state. Never mind other important things. It's just race that matters!

Such fools. You can't make White Communism work. You can't make White Libertarianism work. Ditto on White Anarchism and White Democracy.

And considering that Fascism viewed the state as an organic entity, not a soulless one, I fail to see how he could not know of the reality of race and ethnicity. Ditto on other fascists.

So, sorry, you big brained fool (Probably a TRSnigger or one of Andy Nowicki's/Colin Liddell's stooges), you get the rock, you are wrong, and IronMarch is right.

pick one

retarded communists in college used to pull that shit (and I assume still do)

So where are the fascists now?

Haven't you heard? Everyone's either a kike shill, a CIA honeypot, or a homosexual.

You're the only fascist left. Stay in your room skimming Evola and posting anonymously while you still can.

wew

So TRS is against IronMarch?

Yes because drunk Matt ruined them and they are still salty about it.

Natt Danelaw

It is likely he is above 50%. Whole lot of turks are a lot more subhuman-looking. Still not White, tho.

Kind of suspect that is Jack Donovan (and others) purpose.

I am someone who tries to actually study mythology and ancient civilizations more to understand some theories I have that do go to /x/ to a degree, but for the life of me, most pagans are pure LARPers or neopagan faggots. Proper ones that study the history, knowledge and traditions is very rare nowdays.

As someone who has been a old/traditional pagan for over 10 years and was raised in their values, while I do not wish to create d&c, completely reject all the modern pagans and count them as enemies since they use "paganism" as an excuse for their degeneracy.
Heck, some other nationalists who I hang around with are christians and we get along fine since we have good ethics/morals and are all fighting the same enemy.

This.

I think I will make a DnC thread

what is your take on Varg Vikernes?

he has research AND he plays games and like to joke around and not be a stuck up nigger who call other's larpers.