Ukraine Red Pill

You are a nigger faggots and should fuck off

It's not surprising RIDF would find the video and comment on it given the implications of the content.

I would like a fair and unbiased report on the Ukraine I'm not sure if your video does that but I'm pretty sure I know what happened in the country and its not so black and white.
It's also worthy noting the Ukranian volunteer fighters are self proclaimed fascists, and the Russians self proclaimed communists

That's a pretty good overview, although I'm not sure Russia ever wanted to annex Donetsk.

Most of the documentary deals with the Anti-Terrorist Operation, including a lot of bombings/fights that weren't covered in the media. The first hour covers a lot of the period you mention, I'd love to know what you think. I've tried to be as fair and unbiased as I can.

Russians/slavs tend to use the "fascist/nazi" accusation differently. They don't call those who don't put brown people on an ivory pedestal as one, instead it is reserved to those who fucked with their precious Motherland. Even Ukrops can glorify the UPA + Galichyna division and shouting "Putler!" in the same breath. The same pro-Russian "communists" can also be seen wearing the orange and black ribbon of st. George which is a symbol of imperial Russia and was used by anti-communist white troops during the Russian revolution.
With both sides they use the terms/symbolism more due to history and culture rather than actual political intentions, Russia certainly isnt going back to communism while Donbass miners do view the USSR favorable due to nostalgia and the Donbass region was much better off economically in the USSR, Ukraine certainly isn't going to become fascist either while attempting to join the EU/NATO and allowing increasing LGBT rights.

Well, that's not too far off, except he's using the wrong terms.
1. The Jews used the neo-nazis from the hooligan ultras scene and later turned them into Jewish private armies. These are Aryan Brotherhood type degenerates, flying swastikas and natsoc symbols giving natsoc a bad name, Jewish business as usual.
2. Ukrainians did purge ethnic Russians, banned Russian language and Russian books. That's what started the uprising.

These are pretty much Hollywood "nazi" image the Jews maintain on purpose.

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WAS GETTING CAUGHT PART OF YOUR PLAN?

Are there any true nationalistic, sovereign Ukrainian groups that don't want to be part of east or west?

Or are we looking at east (Russian) shills and proxies vs west (US/Jew/EU) shills and proxies?

About 30 minutes in and it seems pretty good so far

It seems like that was the original intent of the dudes who started many of the Ukranian nationalist groups but as time has gone on they have been pushed out of leadership positions by pro western stooges as to be expected. Anyone remember that one Swedish faggot that joined as of and was claiming to be this white power warrior and shit, then a few years later said he was against racism and islamiphobia and other gay shit. As the west reorientates the Ukraine expect more of the message to be watered down. Hopefully the Ukies have a Maidian 2 electric boogaloo and push everyone out.

The Swedes name was Mikado skilt I think

Well, the "Svoboda" party seems to be. I think they want Ukraine not to belong to anyone.

ned.org/region/central-and-eastern-europe/ukraine-2016/

Then realize they have actually cut funding a lot since 2014.
Then realize that the average HIGHEST wage in Ukraine (kiev area) is $4000 a year (it's half that country wide).

That should give you an idea of how many activists are directly on US GOVERMENT payroll (the NED is a Congress program).
And that the part of the iceberg that is in plain sight.

Still a pro-EU puppet

TechCamp is mentioned at the start. Here's Hillary talking about it: youtube.com/watch?v=dpNdxUOjbi8

Soros and his Open Society Foundations make an appearance at 1 hour 56.

That's a shame. Then I can't name any for now.

I'm not going to watch 5 hours to respond to your video about Ukraine.

More like, ethnic Russians were settled all over Ukraine to strategically russify the population. When Ukraine resisted, (((Russia))) played the victim.

Do you understand European politics at all?

spotted a britcuck

Do it to become more informed then, never mind responding to me. You don't have to watch all 5 hours if you don't want to.

Perhaps he's wondering why someone would watch your documentary before commenting in the thread

Slightly pro-russian so far (2 hours in) but pretty good in terms of chronology and information.

Pretty good so far. Have a bump.

Do you? the V4 and all other groups that plan to leave the EU are still planning to stay NATOcucks

There was no purging of ethnic Russians. If you mean the Odessa incident, these people were basically Antifa and half of them were from Russia and Georgia. The language was also not forbidden, it was a proposition that was not implemented. It was as serious as the proposition of the Russian poltician Zhirinovsky to wipe Europe and the USA from the face of the earth. Books were not forbidden either, Ukrainian bookstores were full of them. Maybe some commie books were being censored, I don't care. The only thing that started the uprising was the Russian TV and their fearmongering à la "muh ebil fascists". Plus the Russian news channels promised gibs for joining them.

can you give a run-down? can't be fagged watching to get a chronology.

does it mention the massive corn deal with China? The one where china rejected the GMO corn from the US, and bought from Odessa instead? The deal that led to Monsanto owned troops (academi) being boots on the ground in odessa?

Fuck off RIDF. When the riots started western media was lauding them. I still remember how they choked when the nationalists got involved and started steering the efforts in a nationalist direction. Suddenly they weren't sure whether to support the uprising or condemn it becasue it wasn't according to plan. Unfortunately Putin's war intervened and forced the nationalists to the front before the kike purgings could be completed.

They have taken up arms to kill communists. How the fuck does that give you anything but glory?

That's bullshit, but I wish they had. I hope the Baltic states will purge you as well. Communist kikes dumped you in every country they could and now you say they should all belong to Russia. I sure think Russians should exist and I think you should have Russia but fuck if I want to be near to you. You are fucking impossible to live with.

I hate Ukraine threads. All the retarded shit I have to read makes me so fucking mad.

This is fucking Donbass
https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Soviet_of_the_Donetsk_People's_Republic
Look at this shit! LOOK AT IT!! This is what retards like angling proclaim as the true redpilled white nationalist saviors of the white race while openly National Socialists Ukrainians who fight under the old standard of the Ukrainian Waffen SS to kill these commies are supposed to be kikes. How the fuck is killing bolshevists ever wrong in any situation!?

Do you not think Ukrainian nationalists remember what the kikes did during the holdomor? Do you not think they were aware of Russians in the east, with support from Putin, were starting to flirt with these bolshevist dreams again? Do you not think this is the reason they wanted to get the fuck far away from Russian neo-communist influence as possible, even if that meant the EU? When the Donetsk uprising started what the fuck where they supposed to do? What you would if bolshevists proclaimed a people's fucking soviet in your country? Just tell them to take as much land as they wanted because your country is part of EU or NATO so fighting them would make you a kike puppet?

People whine about REALPOLITK when it comes to bolshevist scum in Donbass but how about you ever fucking try to apply this to nationalists in Ukraine??

When masonic kikes, being displeased with Putin still looking out for Russia on the global scene, stir up shit in your country in an attempt to install more westerly aligned kikes, what do you do? Do you just sit and roll your thumbs and wait to see whether the communist kikes currently in power win or the mason kikes win, or do you go outside and do what you can to pull the developments in your direction? If you do then you are the type of faggot who is of no fucking use to the movement and just want to sit and wait until Hitler comes back from the Moon.

When fucking communists start a revolution and begin stealing your land what the fuck do you do? Do you focus on the commies swallowing miles of land by the day or do you focus on the political union that will not sequester any land from you, will not proclaim independence on your soil, and which you are free to leave at any given time? Which is the immediate fucking threat here? What do you focus on when you have a limited amount of resources at that very moment?

Here's what the nationalists accomplished by engaging in Maidan and the following developments:
They've put nationalists in the parliament and political system that would not otherwise have been there. Had the nationalist sat and watched their navels, as some here say, the political system would right now have been 100% in the hands of the kikes, masonic or communist.
They stopped the bolshevik horde from advancing westwards. If you can not immediately appreciate what a service they have done for their folk by this then you need to be shot.
They won their own fully military NatSoc regiments. What other nationalist movement has accomplished this? Fucking none. How the fuck is that not a stellar fucking success for any movement?

But no, since they were not able to 100% purge their entire government/country of kikes during one single event they should have done nothing and just let the kikes do whatever they pleased with Ukraine. I hate you people so fucking much.

top kek

Yet they work for kikes and ultimately support a much more kiked end goal, the EU
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Most notably the main reason to support Russians and allied groups over the EU/NATO is the fact that Russia is an ally of Iran and Syria which are objectively the largest threat facing Israel. Anything that furthers the Shia crescent against Israel and the Saudis is a good thing and allowing the EU/NATO to expand to Russian borders would certainly be a political and military threat to the Russia-Iran alliance.

Ethnic Russians always lived there. 80% of Ukraine are gifts from Communists. Historic Ukraine is only the westernmost part.

We actually watched the livestream on Holla Forums. These were ordinary people. They even strangled some grandma with a phone cord and laughed about it.
Ukrainians deserve what they are getting, and to be honest Putin should level the place the moment it became clear 80% of the government and "nationalist" leaders are Jews.

Never happened. EU president and the EU Jewess Nuland went to Kiev and distributed food to the protesters on camera. Pic very related.
Communists don't exist for 30 years now, m8.

Nice try tho, Shlomo. I really hope Kadyrov will be named successor next year, he will steamroll the whole jewish shitshow, from Donetsk to London.

Thanks OP, as someone born in kiev, with family there and i watched as the globalists turn my country into a chessboard, it makes my blood boil as most of my american colleagues buy into the narrative

You're talking about the fake photos that were being spread? Nice try, Ivan.

you should know that the entirety of the russian internet (the ones with triple-digit IQ at least) is laughing at you because you praise the monkey that is Kadyrov
The RIDF is real in here, maybe I don't mind Putin blocking this site + vpns

Remember that this shit was promoted by Dugin, who is explicitly anti-white. The EU and NATO are both kiked, but pretending that Russia (which is replacing their white ethnic Russians with mongoloids from former USSR central asian countries) is pro-white is foolish.

It's even funnier when "nazbol" is promoted, when bolshevism is among the highest forms of kikery ever devised. You also have alt-kike people like implicit dicky refusing to even question the holohoax while outright denying the kike-induced holodomor.

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I've got more than 5 hours of research on Ukraine, kinda important in the geopolitics of Europe.
Maybe someone can post a synopsis instead of just claiming you must watch 5 hours to respond.
That's what leftyshits do. Throw a 2000 page book at you or even several volumes and then just respond to all arguments with, read this book, watch this, see that.
I know things, I'm asking questions and making points. If it's in the video, that you made, then surely you could put it into words.

This is pure RIDF attempt at rewriting history.
Completely false.

/dg/ Donetsk General when?
We need a thread that gets daily updated daily for Novorossiya in order to keep updated with happenings and to keep the shills permanently rectum ravaged
New R&U Videos
Several UAVs and hundreds of weapons sold to the DNR by corrupt Ukrainian military officials are shown

I'm not sure what points or questions I am supposed to respond to. The video is just all the important events over 8 months in Ukraine laid out chronologically and without commentary.
watchdogmediainstitute.com/2017/07/8-months-in-ukraine-euromaidan-mh17.html

It should go without saying that you nobody is forcing to watch 5 hours or preventing you from commenting. It's just my opinion that if you are interested in the subject then this is a good resource, and based on what you have said I am sure you will come away from it much more informed than you are now.

Video showing locally produced "Oplot" pistol by pro-Russian rebels in Donetsk Republic, turn captions on for English subtitles, also shows DPR weapons manufacturing and C&C equipment in the second half of the video

Mostly a modernized Tokarev design, it comes with 2 barrels and can either fire 7.62x25 or 9x19 depending on which is installed with a 10+1 capacity. IMO a pretty neat pistol, they will likely never be sold in the US but i like seeing the Tokarev design modernized and still being used nonetheless.

updated daily*

RIDF can't even keep their latent communism contained for a paragraph post.

voltairenet.org/article189895.html

That would be pretty nice actually. Is there demand outside of the typical burger RIDF types?

TBH i think there are plenty of supporters to keep a thread continuously active, there might be too low of a feed of original content to keep it alive though
Simular threads about Ukraine related topics have shown good results but the happening rate is much lower than /sg/ at this stage though so its somewhat iffy unless combat increases

And I disagree that I will come away more informed if you are basing that on my post. Normalization of US-Russia relations is great. Giving Ukraine up to either sphere is non negotiable.

If I told you to watch TGSNT in full and you were new here, you would be justified in telling me to gtfo before you spend the better part of day watching it. But you are not even OP so who the fuck cares what inane ad hominems you throw.

i will only watch this documentary if you've slipped at least 3 baneposts into it

no, because nobody cares about a degenerate communist shithole full of terrorists
but go ahead, maybe it will shed some light to your typical teenage russian patriot who has never lived there

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Some say we can't normalize US-Russia relations because Crimea was given up to the Russian sphere…
And I don't know why you are so offended I posted a long video of mine here.

Should be easy for you to point out some Kremlin lies then?

How about you fuck off RIDF. The point is very simple, if Donbass/Crimea or any of the Russian lands wanted independence then they should have gone for it with the collapse of the USSR, not when "oh evil nazis are in power now but I do not like that so this land is now mine".

Good video but way too much focused on emotions and rather too little on legality and more complex stuff. For example I find no mention that Yanukovych was also a corrupt piece of shit and that from the perspective of Ukrainian nationalists increased cooperation with Russia would have also meant a drift away from a monoethnic Ukraine. Not saying that your video is biased but for a normie with no knowledge about the bigger picture they will inevitably see the Russians as the good guys while it is definitely not so black and white as it seems.

i'm not gonna watch your 5 hour video but since I'm going to assume that you blame the ukranians for the MH17 crash since it's in the title (because that's the kremlin narrative)
Here's a video of two separate reports from a kremlin-sponsored tv-channel (because we don't have any that aren't lol)
youtube.com/watch?v=kSx8HJfBl7U
The reports are 1 hour away from each other
In the first report they say:
"The rebels report that they took down another ukranian military airplane above the rebel-controlled city Torez about 5 o'clock in the evening, moscow time"
In the second:
"Ukranian press reports an airplane crash close to the russian border (pay attention to the map, you will see it's above Торез -(Torez)). Some sources say it was a malaysian airliner. Ukranian media says it crashed at 17:25 moscow time. No official confirmation of this information is available yet, the airliner company's twitter only confirmed that they lost their signal"
I posted this info on cuckchan too, with the translation and all but was met with the typical "the news guys are just incompetent" and "russia has nothing to do with the rebels", but I think it's crucial evidence

opps, wrong link
youtube.com/watch?v=NsmVZmSBaEg
also, a correction: they don't say it crashed at 17:25, they say it was supposed to cross the russian border at 17:25

Azov and the other groups started a decade before or so before this even happened, and the accusations of kikes funding any of them outside of the turbocuck Right Sector, has been government officials giving them food while on tour. Meanwhile you have communist from Russia being injected by the Kremlin to start an insurrection to take Ukrainian clay. But I guess that is okay because the US completely replaced the government with kikes, so they should just be annexed by the Russian kikes instead. Sorry mods, I mean BASED GIVI AND MOTOROLA, GOD BLESS THOSE POOR MEN THEY WERE FREEDOM FIGHTERS.

You forgot the part where they also import niggers and shitskins from across the world to fight for the communist shithole.

Thanks for the feedback. Yatzenyuk mentions pretty early on that the protesters are there because of the corrupted government among other things, and there's the report from Donetsk where even they don't support him ("because of his millions and his mansions"). I didn't think many people denied Yanukovich was corrupt so I didn't spend much time on it. I could have gone into more detail about why nationalists supported the EU but it would make the movie even longer so I mainly focused on the what rather than the why. Also I don't think Ukraine was mono-ethnic in the first place, which is a cause of conflict between nationalists and the east. Hopefully normies will be interested enough after watching the video to read more about it all.

Oh and you are right, the US GOV had programs like that all over Europe to form a third echelon to attack the Russians in they ever invaded.

That is important, but this documentary ends right when the plane crashes, around 4:20pm (UTC+3). The timeline will continue in the next movie I make and will include these reports that you mentioned. It's damning, but not conclusive in my opinion.

I don't really blame anyone for MH17 in the video, but you might be interested in skimming through the last hour and a half of the video for information on all the Ukrainian planes shot down and the movement of military equipment around that area in the last couple of days.

Enjoy your Sharia, hohol.

like in Mosque-ow?

This board is back on the right track.
Back to the topic, my realpolitik perspective tells me that supporting EU side is better because it lets degenerates out into the open, where we can study and avoid them until we devise a way to prevent their genesis. Also, they're less easy to corrupt with money and much easier to corrupt with talk.

Ukrainians are to blame for MH17 for the simple reason Kiev air traffic control redirected a fucking civilian plane in a war zone where plane were getting shot down EVERYDAY and the Ukrainian air force and ground forces had deployed combat planes and aggressively active air defense (funny how all the Ukrainian claims of Russian aistrikes, leading to the redeployment of basically every working Ukrainian AA to the combat area have been scrubbed since then).

Doesn't matter who actually fired the missile… the responsibility lies with who sent the plane there perfectly knowing it wasn't safe, when it's it's their fucking job to keep planes safe. GO ahead and Google previous incidents where lost planes erred in combat/restricted zone and got shot down. You will see that typically the companies had to APOLOGIZE to the government that shot down their airliner (for wasting a perfectly good missile… yes) and the companies systematically sued back the appropriate air traffic control (and won every time unless it was really pilot error).
The only reason Kiev hasn't been sued is because they're fighting Russia, so they get a pass on everything that is widely considered unacceptable behavior for the rest of the world.
If they were fighting everyone else they'd be paying reparations already.

I managed to catch a few reports of Russian airstrikes and Ukrainian AA deployment to include in the doco. As well as the DSB report saying that based on Ukraine's claims of airstrikes and high-altitude shoot-downs the airspace should have been closed.

video is a slow medium. I read fast. (5k wpm, 95+%) my brain soaks up information from pages in a massively parallel process. watching vids where that same information is stretched out in a linear fashion is mind numbing. Please, transcribe. I'd love to engage, i watched events unfold with great interest, and spent hours getting into ukrainian blogs from various viewpoints, as well as military gossip and various msm propaganda.
To have the chance to talk with someone informed about it would be awesome. Don't exclude us with an unwieldy video, engage us.

my ideas on what went down are siplistic, but i predicted that there'd be an east/west split based on linguistics, with donbass and odessa being in the east, but not allowed to separate due to the resources

then why was our media constantly saying ukranians shot it down? i was only pointing out a kremlin lie like he asked

Source for western media saying Ukraine did it

I'm happy to engage, and respond to any questions. I just think there is much to be learned from some of the raw footage and maps that wouldn't be the same in a text description. There's plently of reading throughout the doco, but mapping out the airstrike at 2:07:17 is one example of what I mean. I might put in the (massive) effort to turn all of this into text eventually, but if there is one video that could restore your faith in the medium, it's this one.

Regarding the split and predictions of it, have you read this? It's not actually in this video but it is elsewhere on my channel.
wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

No, I was asking for someone to back up their accusation that my video was blatant Russian propaganda.

He means Russian media.

Oh boy.

Going to Ukraine in a month. Gonna give this video a watch. Cheers OP

Everything you posted is pure propoganda

The Russians defiantly did shoot that plane down and after watching most of the video from OP it has a slightly Russian bias.

Read on the history of the oil industry user. That's your next project.

Start with the series "the prize".

Thanks for the comment. Could you elaborate on how exactly it's biased and what I could do to improve it?

Thanks, I'm currently looking for new books to read so I might check it out.

You'll find the oil industry is indirectly involved with most bullshit on the planet.

I think it's funny seeing Nuland in between Exxon Mobil and Chevron logos talking about the EU bringing Ukraine the stability investors require around 6-7 minutes in.

Joe Biden's son and the Burisma gas company get a brief mention at 1 hour 45.

Quality documentary

Russian settled these Novorussia lands after they take them from Crimea Kchanate. It was called Wild Land before and were practically depopulated by Tatar slave lands.
If there are Ukrainians there they move there after Russian conquer and settled these lands. Especially after Tsar/Soviets started industrialization. Even now Ukrainians move for work into Russia.

Technically you are right but:

I will drop some of the screencaps from old /NVR/ threads.

There is no history of Ukraine or Ukrainians before 1917 communist revolution. It's an artificially made up thing. Communists took some turk and tatar rape babies and told them they are a nation.
But as the time has showed, Ukrainian subhuman genetics can't be fixed and they are basically the niggers of Europe - a land famous for their whores, child trafficking, drug addicts and kikes in the government, inhabited by animals, who destroyed every bit of infrastructure and technology Poland and Russia left them.
To understand how miserable Ukrainians really are, you have to know they are storming the Polish border every day, exactly like the sandnigger refugees, for the opportunity to whore themselves out on the streets of Warszawa or clean toilets.

This is why these subhumans have to be exterminated to the last man and the land hast be divided between Poland and Russia.

The fuck is this shit, kike? Looks like pure RIDF garbage.

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RIDF posts like this insult my intelligence

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